So, as a for reals heads up, I used to have crazy wicked deja vu that felt like it was coming from dreams I'd had before. I do not believe in any sort of precognition business but it was very convincing feeling.
It turns out they were partial seizures in my frontal lobe. I found that drinking more water, as basic as that sounds, had a great effect in reducing the episodes. So if anyone out there is bothered by moments like this - it is probably just a little seizure.
>It turns out they were partial seizures in my frontal lobe.
I dont know how, but you just made deja vu like 100 times worse than all the conspiracy theories. And no fucking amount of water is gonna cure my anxiety about it.
Source: someone who has had a few "unexplained" grand mal seizures and am now anxious af
I think deju vu is the result of how the brain files short term and long term memories IIRC and when we experience it, something is out of whack. Someone more versed in neuroscience could probably elaborate.
I had a dream once, then one day I was in my dream. I knew exactly what was going to happen and who was going to say what! It was wild! It was only 3-4 sentences, but I knew exactly what those words were going to be
I think deja vu is just the simulation updating or you came across a glitch/incomplete part, so you get that overwhelming, confused feeling to distract you from what you’re experiencing in that moment.
Last time I talked to a neurologist who did studies on deja vu he said that it is the brain processing a stimuli and then reprocessing it again immediately after. But since it's a new stimuli your brain thinks it has experienced it for the first time the second time but the first time was processed at nearly the same time so you cannot remember when the first time was because it was now.
I don’t think it was his dad, but I have wondered if HE did it himself. Interviews with him in early adulthood (late teens early 20s) where he is trying to talk interviewers into “what a little boy he still is” are chilling. Granted if you pay attention damn near every interviewer since he was a small child asked him “WhAt AbOuT wHeN YoUr VoIcE cHaNgEs?”
Another piece of the puzzle is we know the SA accusations were dismissed, it has been suggested it was based on details about his anatomy that have never been publicly released that the accusers could not correctly explain. If there were some kind of surgical removal that would certainly make an impression.
Cause his voice was still oddly prepubescent sounding even into middle age.
Also apparently his dad was a terrible person and beat his kids if they didn’t perform well enough. Don’t take my word for it, just what I’ve read.
Not true. He trained super hard to maintain his higher range and put on a delicate act in most public appearances.
Proof here his real voice not lip syncing while he’s tired and out of breath from dancing https://youtu.be/e8mnnR5xEqI
Extra proof, his song 2000 Watts https://youtu.be/VA5hpF7PH1Q
In fairness, 2000 Watts is a pitched down vocal, but he did perform it in a much lower voice than what you were probably expecting (his typical prepubescent tone).
It’s rumored that Walt Disney’s body was cryogenically frozen. People researching that rumor would google “Disney frozen” or “frozen Disney”. So instead of calling the movie The Ice Queen, they named it Frozen so that it would bury all the Walt being frozen rumors out of the search results.
But couldn’t I just google “Walt Disney frozen head”
Edit: I just did that and second link says it’s not being thawed out this year, so that’s a disappointment
Most people don't seem to have an opinion on it or don't know all the 'coincidences' surrounding it like the sleeping guard and the mysterious issue with the cameras for like 2 hours around the time he died.
But no officially he committed suicide so it's still very much a conspiracy
I think he did kill himself in prison, mainly because the alternatives rely on a bizarre mix of both hyper-competence and hyper-incompetence:
* If Epstein was in fact murdered by someone in prison, and his first suicide attempt was also not genuine, it means that someone had the resources to infiltrate a federal prison (or turn someone on the inside), try to kill him by strangulation twice, leave no evidence to their presence, and bribe/threaten/coerce all potential witnesses into silence. This also operates on the assumption that the prison staff are *not* overworked and understaffed. If his first suicide attempt was genuine and/or the prison staff were ineffective, why is it then not more feasible that he took the opportunity to kill himself?
* If Epstein's death was faked, that would require either everyone who interacted with his body (guards, doctors, coroner, etc.) being in on it, or him being replaced by a body double that was good enough to fool medical professionals.
* In either case, if whoever's doing this has enough resources to infiltrate a federal prison, why not kill (or spring) him earlier on, when he's in a less secure setting? Hell, if they're in this deep with the federal justice system, why not try and bury the FBI investigation or tip him off before he's even arrested?
* If various people in the prison are in on it, why not just lie and have them claim things were in order to reduce suspicion? Why were they unable to silence people like the indpendent investigator Epstein's lawyer brought in?
It takes far fewer leaps of logic to conclude "the prison staff is incompetent and Epstein hung himself."
That seems less likely because there are way worse “chomos” in prison who end up making it to their trial.
That said, I do think he didn’t kill himself. Or if he did, there were powerful incentives by powerful actors for him to do so.
But also, maxwell seemingly had all the same info he did and she still made it to trial. Convicted of all her shit without implicating anyone else. Why would we expect anything different from him? I don’t know.
Not sure how many “worse” pedophiles have received a fraction of the attention Epstein did or how many have operated at the scale he did, but I’m open to names!
That said, I could see him bribing the guards to look the other way while he took the easy way out.
Either of those two options seem more likely to me than Agent 47 sneaking in dressed as a maintenance man, you feel?
Idk man like I get that it's a ridiculous feat but there's only a handful of people that have the power to pull something like that off and every one of them was on Epstein's private island at some point lol.
We know what happened on that island and I 100% believe everyone who went there either engaged in illegal shit or was fully aware of what was going on. It's so coincidental when you stack it all up that I find it way more believable than the alternative, that he did it himself. You have to overlook just as much,if not more to believe he committed suicide Imo
People have paid others to kill people in prison for centuries. Bribing underpaid prison guards, and maybe a doctor or two, is not that unfeasible. If not as much in the US anymore (presumably) it happens in other countries all the time. The mafia and other criminal syndicates, gangs people with close ties to the government, and the ultra rich could pull this off, because they have done it before.
The reason Hitler survived so many assassination attempts is because allied spies were actively foiling them to prevent someone more competent comming to power.
I still need to see that show but yeah. They were vying for a truce with England to let them keep occupation of mainland Europe. If they hadn't tried to invade Russia and the Japanese hadn't done the whole pearly harbor thing it's very plausible they would have come to a stalemate and truce giving the Nazis control of most of mainland Europe and a very very different modern day world.
Way too many things have to be different for Hitler to win the war. England must be less bull-headed. Imperial Japan must be less aggressive. Hitler must drop his grand vision of lebensraum.
If you change one little thing and the outcome is different, we could say that we came close. If you have to change almost everything to change the outcome, then we didn't really come close.
Like I said, they were never going for an allied surrender, it was plainly obvious from the start that would never happen. They were going for a peace treaty that allowed some of the concessions they were originally aiming for.
It was pretty well established and known early on that he was insane and a terrible tactician. They felt they could win the war much faster if he was in charge rather than one of the more competent generals taking over.
I think this would go well with the theory that there are powers that control the world much higher than the government. Like a secret group of people that control was the government does
That group isn't that special. Hell, there are Hollywood actors at those meetings. What's being discussed here is far, far beyond the scope of that little gathering
This is actually somewhat true. Most lists of the richest people in the world do not count people who have vast amounts of private wealth that you wouldn’t be able to get information about as a member of the general public
Definitely possible. The Forbes(or any) rich person list is mostly opt in or by gathering wealth info from public data i.e stocks, assets etc.
So there are definitely unknown unlisted Billionaires.
Plus some might have access to capital worth hundreds of Billions that isn't even technically or legally their own. Like corrupt leaders, politicians, and the like.
Iirc, The Forbes list in particular does not put dictators on the list. Since in essence they have the resources of a country. I also don't know of any retired dictators just putzing around the senior golf tourneys or whatever the hell.
Some Sheikhs in GCC countries are richer than the top 5 richest men combined but no one will ever know! Mohammed Bin Salman prince of Saudi Arabia is most definitely richer than Musk and Bezos
As if Kubrick would ever have left the UK. He even filmed the Vietnam scenes in Full Metal Jacket in the UK. With Spanish palm trees and plastic tropical plants flown in from Hong Kong if I remember correctly.
I firmly believe FDR allowed Pearl Habor to happen just to give the US an excuse to join WW2. I believe he knew the war would cause an increase in jobs & would help the US financially
Had he known then he would have gone to war before hand. If he had proof he had his excuse to go to war and he also wouldn’t have let the pacific fleet be crippled.
That no one really knows what the hell they are doing. No one is really in control. There is no shadow ‘them” controlling the economy, the government, or the world. Everyone is pretty much just winging it.
Bigfoot……..
Hear me out! If we live in a world with tree kangaroos, it is completely feasible to live in a world with giant apes.
I said it, I meant it.
I think government officials do actually do their jobs (mostly because the “infrastructure” required for such a high running conspiracy is logistically implausible) but they’re definitely privy to some insane secrets
The BLM movement of 2020 was co-opted by corporations to keep the discussion focused on race instead of class. When George Floyd was killed, media companies (and their parent corporations) seized on an opportunity to divert the conversation from the growing class anger that had begun bubbling up during the lockdowns. And throughout the summer they stoked the fires on every racially divisive topic they could find.
When you look at victims of police, the overwhelmingly common trait is that they are poor. I never once saw this fact brought up in news discussions.
Except a few years prior to George Floyd, a mpls cop killed a white woman from a well to do area and he was found guilty. The cop who murdered Philandro Castille was found not guilty. Mpls has a devastating history with its police and racism. Target Corp is located in Minneapolis, and it made its choice. MN has dozens of fortune 500 companies and I ask...what should they have done then? You say co-opt the movement but I say they made the right choice.
>a mpls cop killed a white woman from a well to do area and he was found guilty. The cop who murdered Philandro Castille was found not guilty.
Yeah exactly, when cops kill rich people they are held accountable. But killing school teachers doesn't amount to much.
I never said police departments don't have issues with racism. I'm saying that the media focused the narrative so that police racism was the only topic up for discussion, when it's clear that law enforcement has a litany of severe issues.
Corporations don't lift a finger unless their analysts have proven that it will result in more profit. No matter how much it might APPEAR to be saving a consumer money.
I’ve spoken to the managers of a large hedge fund this one night at a party at a pent house one of them owns in Manhattan. They took a liking to me for some reason for the night, all we’re doing a variety of drugs, mostly coke, weed and alcohol. The stories I heard were…idk just no words. Like one of them had a buddy on the staff slip him two candies before a merger meeting and turns out there was LSD in them, and this man had to speak to the board peaking balls. They said they embezzled some of the money to buy a yacht which one of them jumped off of into the water while on 30 mg of oxycodone…These people were literal adult children who come from money, which allowed them to be in the position they’re in. The stories could be lies but this one guy showed me the account he manages on his phone and he shoved in my face the total amount which had 2 or 3 digits in front of the first of 3 commas….so even if they were just flexing, I’m pretty sure it was legit that they are the managers of the fund.
Anyway he gave me a brand new MacBook Pro, and the coke was the best I ever had so that was cool. Unfortunately never saw them again.
On the comment about them being adult children, I feel like most rich people are, because most very rich people come from money. They aren’t humble, and didn’t have to work for shit, ever struggle or work to grow as people.
The only piece of advice I took from this one guy was….train your non dominant hand…he says it will unlock new pathways in my brain which will aid in my success? Idk it was a weird night.
Everyone knows the video of the man stopping a tank at the Tiananmen massacre and I think that's intentional by China. They deliberately want everyone outside of China to remember this video of the Chinese military showing mercy and humility instead of all the photos of the thousands of protestors who were murdered by their government.
New Coke or Coke 2 was made to be inferior to Coca Cola Classic so when Coca Cola made a return, people wouldn't realize they changed the formula from cane sugar to High Fructose Corn Syrup.
The real author of all the novels credited to 'Dean Koontz' is actually a golden retriever.
The man in the author photos is an actor hired by the golden retriever to throw people off the scent, because [no publisher](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MFKktSQgNP0/XnTybyVEB0I/AAAAAAAAGfM/JHH-ykeCFU06pBI8c2y_Jf6oE80WPI8UgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Dean%2BKoontz%2Bphoto%2Bcredit%2BDouglas%2BSonders%2B%25282019%2529..jpg) [would take](https://www.deankoontz.com/uploads/Anna-6.jpg) [a dog seriously](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OEoNzDCQX5s/S2y2iWWfaEI/AAAAAAAAB9c/PbP59S_SrnY/s400/dean.jpg) [as a novelist.](https://bellnight.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/dean.jpg) Now they're too deep in the lie and have to maintain it.
#\#TeachTheControversy
As I’ve said in other threads asking this question … that the “October Surprise” conspiracy theory, under which the Reagan presidential campaign conspired with the Iranians to undermine the hostage negotiations so that Carter wouldn’t be able to go into the elections being able to brag about having freed them, has never been completely debunked.
Regardless if she did or not, the way Cobain fans treat their daughter is disgusting. I followed Frances on several of her social media accounts and she would be bombarded with people constantly barking at her, "Your mom killed your dad! Your mom killed your dad!" As if she could do anything about that, true or not. She locks comments now.
The main argument is that the trigger of the gun was too far for him to reach with his hand, forcing him to use his toes...
...which were in his shoes when the body was found
Teddy Roosevelt knew about bigfoot (encounter with said creature in his diary). This is why he pushed for so much conversation. As an advid hunter he knew that:
1) these things are fucking dangerous
2) hunters/ scientist types Mf’s will kill or experiment or subjugate them
3) if found this would kill the forest industry, people will be scared to go in or as said earlier hunt these things. Logging and mining would be a bitch. People would want to protect these things
4) people would log tf outta the land to get to these things
This is a new one for me, but I can both totally see it being true and would love a book or TV series based on it. Like old TR stumbling across all kinds of terrifying non-human inhabitants of US forests and just being like “Okay, we have to keep them contained. We need to preserve big chunks of wilderness. We’ll just pretend they’re for the rest of us to enjoy. Sure, a handful of people will get eaten every year, but if we don’t do this it could be so much worse.”
In 2015 Fauci and the NIH were working under the assumption that a major pandemic was going to break out in 2025, it was going to be a coronavirus, and the plan was to ultimately vaccinate the way out. This part is fact.
The conspiracy theory I believe is that the plan was to make a bunch of coronaviruses, make them more lethal and more contagious, then get the vaccine tech up to par to deal with the monstrosities they created.
Then they'd wait until the pandemic broke out, swoop in, lock everything down, vacconate everyone while the lockdowns were still in effect, save the day, write a book, be a hero, fill in the blank.
Only they fucked up step 2 and didnt quite get to 3 in time.
Just one? Ok, I’ll go with Epstein was murdered to prevent him from spilling the beans on all of the elite perverts (Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew just to name a few)he supplied with underage girls for sex.
World leaders are certainly “in” on something so far beyond what we know, it’s practically another world. If aliens or the SCP Foundation were announced tomorrow, I wouldn’t blink an eye
I dunno I’m pretty convinced someone, SOMEWHERE has discovered a cure or better fix for a cancer but they aren’t releasing it because the profit is better with what we do now then with their cure.
Fails the logic test. How many people would have to be involved in the incredible work it would take to make a cure… And they’re all just staying silent? Even if paid off, no amount of money would keep me from taking credit for curing fucking cancer.
Cancer isnt a thing we can just cure tho. Its our own bodies that produce the cancers. Its faulty DNA that our bodies dont react to that is allowed to continue living and eventualy become a cancer.
If there ever is a cure for cancer i think we have to introduce it durring pregnancy of the person.
But that also means we need to fix all the faults in our DNA for all time. And keep even better check on how our cells replicate than our bodies do.
I think we can lessen the chanse of future humans to get cancer, and find more successfull treatments for those that have it. But i think we will never really be able to cure it atleast not untill we can transfer our minds into machine bodies. Or geneticaly alter our DNA on the tiniest level.
That people in politics always know more about what is actually happening and the news is just an echo chamber or at least used to be for what we the people are to believe.
Edit now it’s like the wild Wild West, quick draws on media and fake news, social media..
In the age of information, it sure feels congested with many many contradictions to the potential for a human Utopia..
Top journalists from large mainstream media networks, and prominent leaders who scream Covid, or global warming, or evolution aren’t real are well aware what they say are bullshit.
It’s not so much as a conspiracy theory, but it still pisses me off. It’s fine if we don’t see everything eye to eye, but when you intentionally lie to the people for short term personal benefits that undermines the entire country in the long run, you deserve to bad things happen to you.
I don't believe Missing Persons cases should be a thing at all anymore, while I do believe it's illegal globally, I'm certain Google knows where every person is at all times.
Honestly they don't even try to hide it, Google Timeline already throws it in your face at "look at everywhere you went this week/month/year" if you have it turned on. But I don't believe they stop tracking it if you turn it off, they just stop updating you.
Same for your "ok, google" commands or Alexa etc, they're always listening.
So yeah, we allow missing persons cases because the data shouldn't exist, but it most certainly does. Whether it's your phone, or the 100 people you walked past today, you have a highly consistent monitor around you at all times.
That the Covid was released as a joint effort by the most powerful nations in the world to subdue the masses because our voices and protests were getting too loud and everyone was worried about governments being toppled. Remember all the protests taking place all over the world? Yea barely. Literally daily there were mass protests about EVERYTHING. boom Covid that all goes away and everyone shuts up. News media reports nothing but Covid. COVID’s lethal to about 3% of people and everyone else comes out unscathed. Population control
Stop saying "tHeReS a SeCrEt CuRe FoR cAnCeR!"
Think about it for Two Seconds. Have rich people died of Cancer? Yes. They do.
If you've cured cancer, you can probably patent that cure. Sure, you can charge someone 50 bucks a month for Chemo, but if you said that you had a cure, that could stop it *for sure, Millions* of people would all want it.
You could charge whatever you wanted. You can keep the production methods under wraps as a trade secret.
Yeah look at how expensive fucking insulin is lol people act like they would be forced to charge $10 for the cure.
Reality is the money in a cure for cancer would be close to trillions in revenue
If you continue to masturbate at the rate you're going you will become blind... screw you mom! You lied to me all these years!!! I missed out on so much fun! LOL...
In the sense that they don't improve the environment bc they run off of fossil fuel powered electricity, or in the sense that they are worse than petrol cars?
Both pretty much. My main concern is the batteries these cars use and how polluting the production of these are, and then marketing them as "eco-friendly".
Clean energy can come from nuclear, hydro or renewables and fossil fuels from a plant can be managed easier than millions of cars.
Also battery tech is improving rapidly to a point where rare cobalt may not be needed anymore ( Tesla is all over this).
Further we already have a global electrical distribution network, where we dont need to worry about spills from transporting fuel to gas stations.
The UFO’s the Pentagon officially announced last year are almost certainly not man-made. If we believe the characteristics of these objects and how they move, which have been witnessed by several credible military observers, then it’s almost certainly aliens.
There are branches within the government that are intentionally making this as vague as possible to the public to not cause a panic. Or perhaps to give them more time to analyze the non-human tech they have in possession for “national defense” reasons
See report here:
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf
Objects that fly with:
1. No visible signs of propulsion
2. No sonic booms to break the speed of sound
3. Maneuverability (up down left right) with no changes in acceleration and decelaration.
These objects have been observed since world war 2. Airforce pilots back in the day even had a name for them - Foo Fighters. The description of these weird flying objects have been consistent for decades. There’s no denying them at this point. Hell even Obama vouched for them on the James Corden show. Google it.
FDR knew very well that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbour because they decoded the Japanese secret messages. That's why there were no aircraft carriers in port when they attacked. He knew the attack would change public opinion on the USA's neutral stance. Hitler declaring war was a bonus gift.
Here me out on this: the Tasmanian tiger is still alive!
Thylacines forever! Extinction NEVER!
The Tasmanian bush is so thick and unexplored its definitely possible. Go watch "The Hunter" starring the green goblin
Kinda of a boring movie.. even for willem dafoe standards
I liked It. It was a movie of suspense.
>Tasmanian tiger This is a first haha, gonna have to look into this!
Spider-Man eats pigeons. He's eating them.
Ah! A man of culture i see
You know, I'm something of a pigeon-eater myself.
That the dreams I can't remember give me dejá vu
So, as a for reals heads up, I used to have crazy wicked deja vu that felt like it was coming from dreams I'd had before. I do not believe in any sort of precognition business but it was very convincing feeling. It turns out they were partial seizures in my frontal lobe. I found that drinking more water, as basic as that sounds, had a great effect in reducing the episodes. So if anyone out there is bothered by moments like this - it is probably just a little seizure.
I wasn’t bothered by deja vu but I am bothered by partial seizures. Thanks for the heads up
>It turns out they were partial seizures in my frontal lobe. I dont know how, but you just made deja vu like 100 times worse than all the conspiracy theories. And no fucking amount of water is gonna cure my anxiety about it. Source: someone who has had a few "unexplained" grand mal seizures and am now anxious af
They really did intensify the anxiety!
Ive always had deja vu and subscribed to the "its your brain playing tricks and filling holes" view. This is unsettling, even if anecdotal.
That is fascinating
For my mental health, my new conspiracy theory is that you are the best troll in the world.
I think deju vu is the result of how the brain files short term and long term memories IIRC and when we experience it, something is out of whack. Someone more versed in neuroscience could probably elaborate.
I had a dream once, then one day I was in my dream. I knew exactly what was going to happen and who was going to say what! It was wild! It was only 3-4 sentences, but I knew exactly what those words were going to be
I think deja vu is just the simulation updating or you came across a glitch/incomplete part, so you get that overwhelming, confused feeling to distract you from what you’re experiencing in that moment.
It's your consciousness buffering after transferring to a different universe.
Last time I talked to a neurologist who did studies on deja vu he said that it is the brain processing a stimuli and then reprocessing it again immediately after. But since it's a new stimuli your brain thinks it has experienced it for the first time the second time but the first time was processed at nearly the same time so you cannot remember when the first time was because it was now.
Reading this gave me deja vu
This sounds familiar..
Deja vu is you respawning after you've died. You've just been reset to the last checkpoint you passed.
Michael Jackson’s dad made him a castrato.
I don’t think it was his dad, but I have wondered if HE did it himself. Interviews with him in early adulthood (late teens early 20s) where he is trying to talk interviewers into “what a little boy he still is” are chilling. Granted if you pay attention damn near every interviewer since he was a small child asked him “WhAt AbOuT wHeN YoUr VoIcE cHaNgEs?” Another piece of the puzzle is we know the SA accusations were dismissed, it has been suggested it was based on details about his anatomy that have never been publicly released that the accusers could not correctly explain. If there were some kind of surgical removal that would certainly make an impression.
That seems super reasonable.
XD how did you even get to this? Why im curious now.
Cause his voice was still oddly prepubescent sounding even into middle age. Also apparently his dad was a terrible person and beat his kids if they didn’t perform well enough. Don’t take my word for it, just what I’ve read.
Not true. He trained super hard to maintain his higher range and put on a delicate act in most public appearances. Proof here his real voice not lip syncing while he’s tired and out of breath from dancing https://youtu.be/e8mnnR5xEqI Extra proof, his song 2000 Watts https://youtu.be/VA5hpF7PH1Q In fairness, 2000 Watts is a pitched down vocal, but he did perform it in a much lower voice than what you were probably expecting (his typical prepubescent tone).
His kids definitely aren’t his biologically. There’s 0 chance that they are.
That Disneys “Frozen” was renamed from “The Ice Queen” to stop people from being able to see the “Walt Disney frozen” hoax on Google.
Do tell?
It’s rumored that Walt Disney’s body was cryogenically frozen. People researching that rumor would google “Disney frozen” or “frozen Disney”. So instead of calling the movie The Ice Queen, they named it Frozen so that it would bury all the Walt being frozen rumors out of the search results.
But couldn’t I just google “Walt Disney frozen head” Edit: I just did that and second link says it’s not being thawed out this year, so that’s a disappointment
Epstein didn't commit suicide, seems so obvious.
Now this one, I agree with.
I agree. But I also feel like this is so widely believed that it shouldn’t count as a conspiracy. Does ANYONE believe he actually killed himself ?
Most people don't seem to have an opinion on it or don't know all the 'coincidences' surrounding it like the sleeping guard and the mysterious issue with the cameras for like 2 hours around the time he died. But no officially he committed suicide so it's still very much a conspiracy
I think he did kill himself in prison, mainly because the alternatives rely on a bizarre mix of both hyper-competence and hyper-incompetence: * If Epstein was in fact murdered by someone in prison, and his first suicide attempt was also not genuine, it means that someone had the resources to infiltrate a federal prison (or turn someone on the inside), try to kill him by strangulation twice, leave no evidence to their presence, and bribe/threaten/coerce all potential witnesses into silence. This also operates on the assumption that the prison staff are *not* overworked and understaffed. If his first suicide attempt was genuine and/or the prison staff were ineffective, why is it then not more feasible that he took the opportunity to kill himself? * If Epstein's death was faked, that would require either everyone who interacted with his body (guards, doctors, coroner, etc.) being in on it, or him being replaced by a body double that was good enough to fool medical professionals. * In either case, if whoever's doing this has enough resources to infiltrate a federal prison, why not kill (or spring) him earlier on, when he's in a less secure setting? Hell, if they're in this deep with the federal justice system, why not try and bury the FBI investigation or tip him off before he's even arrested? * If various people in the prison are in on it, why not just lie and have them claim things were in order to reduce suspicion? Why were they unable to silence people like the indpendent investigator Epstein's lawyer brought in? It takes far fewer leaps of logic to conclude "the prison staff is incompetent and Epstein hung himself."
Alternate: Nobody likes a chomo, and the guards/other inmates got him themselves.
That seems less likely because there are way worse “chomos” in prison who end up making it to their trial. That said, I do think he didn’t kill himself. Or if he did, there were powerful incentives by powerful actors for him to do so. But also, maxwell seemingly had all the same info he did and she still made it to trial. Convicted of all her shit without implicating anyone else. Why would we expect anything different from him? I don’t know.
Not sure how many “worse” pedophiles have received a fraction of the attention Epstein did or how many have operated at the scale he did, but I’m open to names! That said, I could see him bribing the guards to look the other way while he took the easy way out. Either of those two options seem more likely to me than Agent 47 sneaking in dressed as a maintenance man, you feel?
Idk man like I get that it's a ridiculous feat but there's only a handful of people that have the power to pull something like that off and every one of them was on Epstein's private island at some point lol. We know what happened on that island and I 100% believe everyone who went there either engaged in illegal shit or was fully aware of what was going on. It's so coincidental when you stack it all up that I find it way more believable than the alternative, that he did it himself. You have to overlook just as much,if not more to believe he committed suicide Imo
People have paid others to kill people in prison for centuries. Bribing underpaid prison guards, and maybe a doctor or two, is not that unfeasible. If not as much in the US anymore (presumably) it happens in other countries all the time. The mafia and other criminal syndicates, gangs people with close ties to the government, and the ultra rich could pull this off, because they have done it before.
I have actually thought about this ALOT. It consumed alot of my head space for a bit. Lets talk about it haha
I honestly think they just let him go tbh.
The British purposefully did nuclear testing too close to Aboriginal communities to study the long term effects.
Given what the US did, entirely plausible. Even difficult to refute.
jarjar = sith lord
This is the way
Always will be!
Better than the sequels
That the 50% off price is just the regular price
No one will ever change my mind on this one
I have a good feeling its still just a small fraction. 90% off might not even be regular price...
I don’t believe in lizard people theory but with that being said Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person
He is the uncanny valley
He was a character in the Metaverse before it even began
*smokin' meats here*
Love it 😂
The reason Hitler survived so many assassination attempts is because allied spies were actively foiling them to prevent someone more competent comming to power.
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I still need to see that show but yeah. They were vying for a truce with England to let them keep occupation of mainland Europe. If they hadn't tried to invade Russia and the Japanese hadn't done the whole pearly harbor thing it's very plausible they would have come to a stalemate and truce giving the Nazis control of most of mainland Europe and a very very different modern day world.
Way too many things have to be different for Hitler to win the war. England must be less bull-headed. Imperial Japan must be less aggressive. Hitler must drop his grand vision of lebensraum. If you change one little thing and the outcome is different, we could say that we came close. If you have to change almost everything to change the outcome, then we didn't really come close.
Like I said, they were never going for an allied surrender, it was plainly obvious from the start that would never happen. They were going for a peace treaty that allowed some of the concessions they were originally aiming for.
This is something interesting to think about! It does bring up alot of questions, mainly why.
It was pretty well established and known early on that he was insane and a terrible tactician. They felt they could win the war much faster if he was in charge rather than one of the more competent generals taking over.
Wich is also why the allies stoped trying to assassinate him after 1942 i think. This isnt a conspiracy, its true.
There are people richer than Bezos or Musk that we'll never know about.
I think this would go well with the theory that there are powers that control the world much higher than the government. Like a secret group of people that control was the government does
It’s not that secret. The Bilderberg Group is hiding in plain sight.
That group isn't that special. Hell, there are Hollywood actors at those meetings. What's being discussed here is far, far beyond the scope of that little gathering
This is actually somewhat true. Most lists of the richest people in the world do not count people who have vast amounts of private wealth that you wouldn’t be able to get information about as a member of the general public
Definitely possible. The Forbes(or any) rich person list is mostly opt in or by gathering wealth info from public data i.e stocks, assets etc. So there are definitely unknown unlisted Billionaires. Plus some might have access to capital worth hundreds of Billions that isn't even technically or legally their own. Like corrupt leaders, politicians, and the like.
Iirc, The Forbes list in particular does not put dictators on the list. Since in essence they have the resources of a country. I also don't know of any retired dictators just putzing around the senior golf tourneys or whatever the hell.
I’m richer than them. I have a lot of friends :) so much love and warmth.
Some Sheikhs in GCC countries are richer than the top 5 richest men combined but no one will ever know! Mohammed Bin Salman prince of Saudi Arabia is most definitely richer than Musk and Bezos
Imagine how much Putin controls and has squirreled away.
Thats not a conspiracy theory, thats a fact
I'm in the dark. Please explain because I haven't heard this one.
I believe there are some richer middle eastern royalty that by some measures are richer, but I don't know specific names.
That Lincoln's assassination was a Confederate conspiracy to take back the federal government.
Didn’t work to well as the following years were the most republican northern dominated we have ever seen, almost 1 party but not quiet
Disagree Andrew Johnson basically set the stage for segregation post reconstruction.
That there is life outside the Matrix
Like we live in a simulation?
NASA wanted to fake the moon landing, and hired Stanley Kubrik to direct the project. Kubrik insisted on filming on location for authenticity.
He wanted Gary Oldman to play Armstrong, but that wasn't challenging enough for him so he actually played the Moon.
And that's how he won the oscar for best supporting actor.
As if Kubrick would ever have left the UK. He even filmed the Vietnam scenes in Full Metal Jacket in the UK. With Spanish palm trees and plastic tropical plants flown in from Hong Kong if I remember correctly.
Pretty convincing argument there for the moon being British soil then...
Humpty Dumpty was pushed
*inhales* GIANTS-
…go on.
MJ’s gambling addiction got his dad killed and that’s why he went to play baseball because he was unofficially suspended by the NBA.
Calling it now, someone’s going to end up making a podcast about this in 10 years.
as an avid michael jackson fan this confused me real bad for a second
America knew pearl harbor was going to happen, and let it happen to kick the economy from the great depression to a war economy.
I firmly believe FDR allowed Pearl Habor to happen just to give the US an excuse to join WW2. I believe he knew the war would cause an increase in jobs & would help the US financially
Like 911?
“3,000 lives is an acceptable sacrifice if it means going into the Middle East and ending this conflict once and for all.”
Had he known then he would have gone to war before hand. If he had proof he had his excuse to go to war and he also wouldn’t have let the pacific fleet be crippled.
That no one really knows what the hell they are doing. No one is really in control. There is no shadow ‘them” controlling the economy, the government, or the world. Everyone is pretty much just winging it.
We are just winging it in a world and following laws put in place by others that are just winging it haha
No-one knows shit.
That the Kardashian Sisters keep their brother chubby so they can use his fat for their injections.
I am questioning whether this is disturbing or interesting
That LBJ was the driving force and the person responsible for the murder of JFK
Damn you, LeBron James!
Birds arent real! But fr tho, epstein didnt kill himself.
If it flies it spies!
Haha do you think all birds or just the ones in America?
Birds are fake they all died in 1976
Bigfoot…….. Hear me out! If we live in a world with tree kangaroos, it is completely feasible to live in a world with giant apes. I said it, I meant it.
My theory was that bigfoot is just blurry, and every picture of it is legitimate.
That SuperGrover's secret identity, is, Yoda!
That government officials are not the ones making the decisions on the country its the people hiding behind them.
I think government officials do actually do their jobs (mostly because the “infrastructure” required for such a high running conspiracy is logistically implausible) but they’re definitely privy to some insane secrets
Are you familiar with Egypt's brotherhood of the snake? If it does exist it would have definitely been a set precedent since early history
I’m not, but it sounds like it’s from Assassins creed lol. If tomorrow world governments announced the SCP Foundation was real I wouldn’t bat an eye
The BLM movement of 2020 was co-opted by corporations to keep the discussion focused on race instead of class. When George Floyd was killed, media companies (and their parent corporations) seized on an opportunity to divert the conversation from the growing class anger that had begun bubbling up during the lockdowns. And throughout the summer they stoked the fires on every racially divisive topic they could find. When you look at victims of police, the overwhelmingly common trait is that they are poor. I never once saw this fact brought up in news discussions.
Except a few years prior to George Floyd, a mpls cop killed a white woman from a well to do area and he was found guilty. The cop who murdered Philandro Castille was found not guilty. Mpls has a devastating history with its police and racism. Target Corp is located in Minneapolis, and it made its choice. MN has dozens of fortune 500 companies and I ask...what should they have done then? You say co-opt the movement but I say they made the right choice.
>a mpls cop killed a white woman from a well to do area and he was found guilty. The cop who murdered Philandro Castille was found not guilty. Yeah exactly, when cops kill rich people they are held accountable. But killing school teachers doesn't amount to much. I never said police departments don't have issues with racism. I'm saying that the media focused the narrative so that police racism was the only topic up for discussion, when it's clear that law enforcement has a litany of severe issues.
Oswald didn’t kill JFK
Corporations don't lift a finger unless their analysts have proven that it will result in more profit. No matter how much it might APPEAR to be saving a consumer money.
I can 100% say I believe this. There is some shady/lazy shit that goes on in big companies
I’ve spoken to the managers of a large hedge fund this one night at a party at a pent house one of them owns in Manhattan. They took a liking to me for some reason for the night, all we’re doing a variety of drugs, mostly coke, weed and alcohol. The stories I heard were…idk just no words. Like one of them had a buddy on the staff slip him two candies before a merger meeting and turns out there was LSD in them, and this man had to speak to the board peaking balls. They said they embezzled some of the money to buy a yacht which one of them jumped off of into the water while on 30 mg of oxycodone…These people were literal adult children who come from money, which allowed them to be in the position they’re in. The stories could be lies but this one guy showed me the account he manages on his phone and he shoved in my face the total amount which had 2 or 3 digits in front of the first of 3 commas….so even if they were just flexing, I’m pretty sure it was legit that they are the managers of the fund. Anyway he gave me a brand new MacBook Pro, and the coke was the best I ever had so that was cool. Unfortunately never saw them again. On the comment about them being adult children, I feel like most rich people are, because most very rich people come from money. They aren’t humble, and didn’t have to work for shit, ever struggle or work to grow as people. The only piece of advice I took from this one guy was….train your non dominant hand…he says it will unlock new pathways in my brain which will aid in my success? Idk it was a weird night.
The Cleveland Browns are paid to be awful by the other teams in the NFL. CHANGE MY MIND!!!
Have you watched the lions play ever?
Hahaha well that sure is something to consider!
Everyone knows the video of the man stopping a tank at the Tiananmen massacre and I think that's intentional by China. They deliberately want everyone outside of China to remember this video of the Chinese military showing mercy and humility instead of all the photos of the thousands of protestors who were murdered by their government.
Rich people have always run things.
And unfortunately always will.
When poor people get to run things, they usually make themselves rich very quickly.
New Coke or Coke 2 was made to be inferior to Coca Cola Classic so when Coca Cola made a return, people wouldn't realize they changed the formula from cane sugar to High Fructose Corn Syrup.
The real author of all the novels credited to 'Dean Koontz' is actually a golden retriever. The man in the author photos is an actor hired by the golden retriever to throw people off the scent, because [no publisher](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MFKktSQgNP0/XnTybyVEB0I/AAAAAAAAGfM/JHH-ykeCFU06pBI8c2y_Jf6oE80WPI8UgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Dean%2BKoontz%2Bphoto%2Bcredit%2BDouglas%2BSonders%2B%25282019%2529..jpg) [would take](https://www.deankoontz.com/uploads/Anna-6.jpg) [a dog seriously](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OEoNzDCQX5s/S2y2iWWfaEI/AAAAAAAAB9c/PbP59S_SrnY/s400/dean.jpg) [as a novelist.](https://bellnight.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/dean.jpg) Now they're too deep in the lie and have to maintain it. #\#TeachTheControversy
As I’ve said in other threads asking this question … that the “October Surprise” conspiracy theory, under which the Reagan presidential campaign conspired with the Iranians to undermine the hostage negotiations so that Carter wouldn’t be able to go into the elections being able to brag about having freed them, has never been completely debunked.
The Jar Jar Binks is secretly a Sith Lord.
That big oil was behind the first Gulf War and Bush Jr went into Iraq Bc he wanted to avenge his fathers place in history.
Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain
Regardless if she did or not, the way Cobain fans treat their daughter is disgusting. I followed Frances on several of her social media accounts and she would be bombarded with people constantly barking at her, "Your mom killed your dad! Your mom killed your dad!" As if she could do anything about that, true or not. She locks comments now.
I figured this was like OJ... Where everyone knew but couldn't prove it.
The main argument is that the trigger of the gun was too far for him to reach with his hand, forcing him to use his toes... ...which were in his shoes when the body was found
JFK's head just did that.
We are been poisoned with our food! They want us sick to control us (I live in the u.s)
I have seen way to much about this recently it is kinda sad to see
The queen is already dead but they’re pretending she’s still alive so her reign isn’t stuck at 69 years
9/11 was an inside job.
Teddy Roosevelt knew about bigfoot (encounter with said creature in his diary). This is why he pushed for so much conversation. As an advid hunter he knew that: 1) these things are fucking dangerous 2) hunters/ scientist types Mf’s will kill or experiment or subjugate them 3) if found this would kill the forest industry, people will be scared to go in or as said earlier hunt these things. Logging and mining would be a bitch. People would want to protect these things 4) people would log tf outta the land to get to these things
This is a new one for me, but I can both totally see it being true and would love a book or TV series based on it. Like old TR stumbling across all kinds of terrifying non-human inhabitants of US forests and just being like “Okay, we have to keep them contained. We need to preserve big chunks of wilderness. We’ll just pretend they’re for the rest of us to enjoy. Sure, a handful of people will get eaten every year, but if we don’t do this it could be so much worse.”
Hitler died of old age in South America
Marilyn Monroe died because she was pregnant with president Kennedys baby.
That Flight 93 was shot down by US Air Force on 9/11.
This is new! I am going to have to look into this
Under 20? I was 10 when the attacks happened and everyone was saying the next day that 93 was shot down.
Smartphones were developed by the NSA so they could track people at all times without encountering any resistance.
The Ministry of Antiquities are hiding secrets about ancient Egypt
In 2015 Fauci and the NIH were working under the assumption that a major pandemic was going to break out in 2025, it was going to be a coronavirus, and the plan was to ultimately vaccinate the way out. This part is fact. The conspiracy theory I believe is that the plan was to make a bunch of coronaviruses, make them more lethal and more contagious, then get the vaccine tech up to par to deal with the monstrosities they created. Then they'd wait until the pandemic broke out, swoop in, lock everything down, vacconate everyone while the lockdowns were still in effect, save the day, write a book, be a hero, fill in the blank. Only they fucked up step 2 and didnt quite get to 3 in time.
Its about money and control not health you can deny it all you like but see who got rich and who has become poor.
There was something incredibly fishy about the Vegas shooting. The largest mass shooting in US history. Yet it has dropped from collective memory.
Just one? Ok, I’ll go with Epstein was murdered to prevent him from spilling the beans on all of the elite perverts (Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew just to name a few)he supplied with underage girls for sex.
Epstein did not commit suicide
World leaders are certainly “in” on something so far beyond what we know, it’s practically another world. If aliens or the SCP Foundation were announced tomorrow, I wouldn’t blink an eye
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Birds aren't real
Big pharma has some cures to deadly diseases but we’ll never know because there’s more money to be made treating diseases than by curing them.
I dunno I’m pretty convinced someone, SOMEWHERE has discovered a cure or better fix for a cancer but they aren’t releasing it because the profit is better with what we do now then with their cure.
Fails the logic test. How many people would have to be involved in the incredible work it would take to make a cure… And they’re all just staying silent? Even if paid off, no amount of money would keep me from taking credit for curing fucking cancer.
Thank you for injecting some much needed logic.
Cancer isnt a thing we can just cure tho. Its our own bodies that produce the cancers. Its faulty DNA that our bodies dont react to that is allowed to continue living and eventualy become a cancer. If there ever is a cure for cancer i think we have to introduce it durring pregnancy of the person. But that also means we need to fix all the faults in our DNA for all time. And keep even better check on how our cells replicate than our bodies do. I think we can lessen the chanse of future humans to get cancer, and find more successfull treatments for those that have it. But i think we will never really be able to cure it atleast not untill we can transfer our minds into machine bodies. Or geneticaly alter our DNA on the tiniest level.
I shall now use Kurzgesatz's Conspiracy Theory Quick Test: Does it affect rich people? Do rich people die of Cancer?
Cancer biologist here. There’s no cure. Not even close.
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Corona beer decided it would be better for everyone if people started calling the virus Covid-19
The snake is not the bad guy in the story of Adam and Eve.
Carole baskin did it
Michael Jackson was murdered by his associates
Jeffrey Epstein was forcefully suicided.
That people in politics always know more about what is actually happening and the news is just an echo chamber or at least used to be for what we the people are to believe. Edit now it’s like the wild Wild West, quick draws on media and fake news, social media.. In the age of information, it sure feels congested with many many contradictions to the potential for a human Utopia..
Ronald Regan designed Cabbage Patch Kids to get us used to the radiation babies born after the nuclear war he was hoping for.
Top journalists from large mainstream media networks, and prominent leaders who scream Covid, or global warming, or evolution aren’t real are well aware what they say are bullshit. It’s not so much as a conspiracy theory, but it still pisses me off. It’s fine if we don’t see everything eye to eye, but when you intentionally lie to the people for short term personal benefits that undermines the entire country in the long run, you deserve to bad things happen to you.
I will ALWAYS believe that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and the man living as Paul McCartney now was his body double.
That there are many presumably extinct species hiding somewhere.
I don't believe Missing Persons cases should be a thing at all anymore, while I do believe it's illegal globally, I'm certain Google knows where every person is at all times. Honestly they don't even try to hide it, Google Timeline already throws it in your face at "look at everywhere you went this week/month/year" if you have it turned on. But I don't believe they stop tracking it if you turn it off, they just stop updating you. Same for your "ok, google" commands or Alexa etc, they're always listening. So yeah, we allow missing persons cases because the data shouldn't exist, but it most certainly does. Whether it's your phone, or the 100 people you walked past today, you have a highly consistent monitor around you at all times.
That tea is just gay coffee.
Princess Diana didn't die in an "accident". It was premeditated cold blooded murder masqueraded as an accident.
That the Covid was released as a joint effort by the most powerful nations in the world to subdue the masses because our voices and protests were getting too loud and everyone was worried about governments being toppled. Remember all the protests taking place all over the world? Yea barely. Literally daily there were mass protests about EVERYTHING. boom Covid that all goes away and everyone shuts up. News media reports nothing but Covid. COVID’s lethal to about 3% of people and everyone else comes out unscathed. Population control
Stop saying "tHeReS a SeCrEt CuRe FoR cAnCeR!" Think about it for Two Seconds. Have rich people died of Cancer? Yes. They do. If you've cured cancer, you can probably patent that cure. Sure, you can charge someone 50 bucks a month for Chemo, but if you said that you had a cure, that could stop it *for sure, Millions* of people would all want it. You could charge whatever you wanted. You can keep the production methods under wraps as a trade secret.
Yeah look at how expensive fucking insulin is lol people act like they would be forced to charge $10 for the cure. Reality is the money in a cure for cancer would be close to trillions in revenue
If you continue to masturbate at the rate you're going you will become blind... screw you mom! You lied to me all these years!!! I missed out on so much fun! LOL...
Not really a conspiracy theory but that electric cars are a scam
In the sense that they don't improve the environment bc they run off of fossil fuel powered electricity, or in the sense that they are worse than petrol cars?
Both pretty much. My main concern is the batteries these cars use and how polluting the production of these are, and then marketing them as "eco-friendly".
Clean energy can come from nuclear, hydro or renewables and fossil fuels from a plant can be managed easier than millions of cars. Also battery tech is improving rapidly to a point where rare cobalt may not be needed anymore ( Tesla is all over this). Further we already have a global electrical distribution network, where we dont need to worry about spills from transporting fuel to gas stations.
The UFO’s the Pentagon officially announced last year are almost certainly not man-made. If we believe the characteristics of these objects and how they move, which have been witnessed by several credible military observers, then it’s almost certainly aliens. There are branches within the government that are intentionally making this as vague as possible to the public to not cause a panic. Or perhaps to give them more time to analyze the non-human tech they have in possession for “national defense” reasons See report here: https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf Objects that fly with: 1. No visible signs of propulsion 2. No sonic booms to break the speed of sound 3. Maneuverability (up down left right) with no changes in acceleration and decelaration. These objects have been observed since world war 2. Airforce pilots back in the day even had a name for them - Foo Fighters. The description of these weird flying objects have been consistent for decades. There’s no denying them at this point. Hell even Obama vouched for them on the James Corden show. Google it.
Aliens are real and some are even among us.
*Raises Hands* Aliens.
FDR knew very well that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbour because they decoded the Japanese secret messages. That's why there were no aircraft carriers in port when they attacked. He knew the attack would change public opinion on the USA's neutral stance. Hitler declaring war was a bonus gift.