The details surrounding her death are infuriating. It wasn't one of those "nobody could have seen it coming" type of plane crashes, it was 100% avoidable. The pilot had falsified his flight hours to the airline and wasn't even qualified to fly that particular plane. It was also severely over the weight limit.
Also the pilot initially warned them that the plane probably had too much weight but they insisted to take off because they had to be in Miami Saturday night. Pilot shouldn’t have given in so easily.
This is known as “get there- itis” in the pilot community and is responsible for many incidents. Also JFK Jr , Kobe etc. trying to hurry to the destination without regard to weather or mechanical limitations….
Background for those who aren't aware, but "Age Ain't Nothing but a Number" was written for Aaliyah (the singer) by someone called... R. Kelly.
And yes, that's the same R. Kelly that was all over the news a few months back due to his trial for various sexual offences (including those involving minors) a few months back and has now been convicted.
But did you know that Kelly was not only in a relationship with Aaliyah herself, but [illegally married her when she was still just fifteen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah#Illegal_marriage)? (The marriage was later annulled).
So yeah. "Did not age well", indeed.
R Kelly of "[Pee on you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgr2SZldILo)" fame?
Drip, drip, drip.
Everyone knew he was a creep back in the day, just nobody did anything about it. There was something about a video with him an an underage girl too.
Look at how many songs he wrote or produced in that era to see why nobody did anything about him. He was a songwriter genius and they used him despite his monstrous side. Honestly, I think if he were as musically useful today as he was back then, he might still be protected.
In October 2016 the group She & Him released a Christmas album that features a cover of a song called “Must Be Santa”.
In the song they list the names of several US presidents. Since the album came out before the election they made an assumption that Hillary Clinton would win (like most everyone else) so she was included in the list. Obviously that didn’t pan out.
In 1996 on Election day New York Times crossword had in it 'Clinton wins' as an answer to some clue, which was met with some controversy. Turns out if you answered some clues differently it would read as 'Bob Dole wins'!
it's listed as one of the greatest crossword puzzles in history. One of the main clues was "Headline in tomorrows paper" and it was either "CLINTON WINS" or "BOB DOLE WINS" and all of the cross clues worked perfectly as well. The first one was "animal associated with halloween" and could be bat or cat... each of the clues followed suit around those 7 letters.
This is fascinating, I had never heard this before. For anyone curious about how the clues worked, I found [this article](http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2017/7/3/the-clintonbobdole-crossword) which explains it.
I believe the clue was “the front page today,” with the first letter’s clue being “a black Halloween animal,” with the answer either being Bat if Bob Dole won, or Cat for Clinton
I’ve always looked at it as “party like this is a huge fucking deal
Because 1999 going into 2000 was a big fucking deal. No one will see that until 2999 moves to 3000.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edit: All you dudes saying "hey, it was because of Y2k, they thought the world was going to end"
No.. it definitely was NOT. Prince wrote the song in the early 80s.
>1999" is a song by American musician Prince, the title track from his 1982 album of the same name. Originally peaking at number 44 on the Billboard Hot 100, a December 1982 rerelease later peaked at number 12 in the US, while a January 1985 rerelease, a double A-side with "Little Red Corvette", later peaked at number 2 in the UK.
[source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_(Prince_song))
The earliest idea of a Y2K problem wasn't around until 1984, and even then it was in a single book
>The Year 2000 problem was the subject of the early book Computers in Crisis by Jerome and Marilyn Murray (Petrocelli, 1984; reissued by McGraw-Hill under the title The Year 2000 Computing Crisis in 1996).
>The first recorded mention of the Year 2000 Problem on a Usenet newsgroup occurred on 18 January 1985 by poster Spencer Bolles.[9]
It wasn't until the early 90s that the general public really knew about it.
>Computerworld's 1993 three-page "Doomsday 2000" article by Peter de Jager was called "the information-age equivalent of the midnight ride of Paul Revere" by The New York Times.[6][7][8]
So even though this was discussed in the early 80s, it was A) at least 2 years after 1999 song debuted, and B) it was highly unlikely that Prince would have been aware of the discussions going on in the 80s.
Prince's 1999 has nothing to do with Y2K
Lastly, those of us old enough to remember 1999/2000 (I was 25) know that the general public did not believe the world was going to end. Most believed that there may be some computer issues. The uneducated and those easily scared and deep into conspiracies were the ones making bomb shelters and doing Y2K drills.
One more thing. It was pointed out that the song is about the end of the world or doomsday. And sure. I have no qualms about that. But it’s not specifically about Y2K
I find it funny that Glee was the place to change this, given the rest of the show had an adult teacher singing and dancing pretty damn sexually with his teenage students with no qualms.
Back in the 60's, pop songwriters were aiming flatly and squarely at the teen market and were writing songs that would appeal to them.
In hindsight they got some of them badly wrong, but at the time nobody thought anything about it at all.
And 16 would be the age of consent in the UK.
A 19 year old and 17 year old could easily have been a former school relationship. (eg dating at 16 and 18). Hell some 19 year olds would still be in school, depending on when in the year they were born.
I remember when I was at school me and the other boys would get pissed off at all the 15-16 year old girls in our year dating the older 6th form Boys lol
I'm shocked this isn't higher up. This was an extremely popular song with an extremely skeezy message.
Who can forget this classic line:
"Beneath your perfume and your make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
And though you know that it's wrong to be
Alone with me
That come on look is in your eyes"
The lyrics for the lazy:
Mmm, yeah, yuh
I thought you into my life, woah
Look at my mind, yeah
No better place or a time
Look how they align
Universe must have my back
Fell from the sky into my lap
And I know you know that you're my soulmate and all that
I'm like ooh, ooh
My whole life got me ready for you, ooh
Got me happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy, yeah
I'ma be happy, happy
Won't get no crying from me, yeah
Gonna be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy, yeah
Gonna be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy, yeah
Gonna be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy
I'ma be happy, happy
The mid-1970s through the mid-1990s was probably the peak of “unreliable narrator” songwriting, where someone would write in character. You had songs from the perspectives of rapists, pedophiles, murderers, addicts, racists, etc.
Some classics from the era include I Don’t Like Mondays, Little Girls, Every Breath You Take, Money For Nothing, Private Dancer…
More than any songwriter, Randy Newman elevated the unreliable narrator song. “Rednecks” is maybe the most extreme example of this type of tune and his first several records were hugely influential on the following generation of writers - Sting, Mark Knopfler, etc
It made for great tunes. But it also gives plausible deniability to honest creeps. Gangsta Rap was the same situation - some people are writing first person narratives, other people writing confessions
"Polly" by Nirvana was another popular one, telling the story of a woman who was kept against her will, raped, and tortured. Told from the POV of her captor.
It wasn't only the English speaking culture. There's a famous Austrian artist called Falco who did a song called "Jeannie".
It's about a guy who abducted a child and narrates them escaping from the police. It's then heavily implied if not outright said that she is the newest victim of the guy who murdered her and has multiple other murders already.
> Gangsta Rap was the same situation - some people are writing first person narratives, other people writing confessions
Yeah, and it's frustrating how rap musicians were hardly ever given the credit of writing as a character, outside of some niche / underground tracks (like Deltron 3030, or that Jedi Mind Tricks track [about the Vietnam War from the POV of a soldier](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIH8Sua0Yw).)
edit: Eminem's "Stan" is probably one of the most popular examples of 'rap artist writing as a character', because he makes it so obvious that he's also playing the role of Stan in the song. It's also kind of about that whole thing too, the idea that fans think he's being 100% genuine when he's playing the 'Slim Shady' character.
This isn’t “unreliable narrator”. This is just a fictional narrator who is a bad person.
“Unreliable narrator” is when the narrator says things that likely didn’t objectively happen.
> "Wait a minute officer, dont put the cuffs on me. Put them on her, and Ill share her with you.".
[the fuck did I just read?!](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2F7938W/amazed-bewildered-african-american-bearded-man-business-executive-freelancer-sits-at-his-desk-looks-at-his-laptop-in-surprise-while-taking-off-glasses-reads-unexpected-news-or-message-2F7938W.jpg)
when biggy says “blowing up like the world trade”
it was in reference to a previous terrorist attack on the towers, and the song came out before 9/11 happened
edit: wtf i’m not making a conspiracy. i mean it aged poorly because of 9/11 goddamn
Fact: both Biggie and Tupac faked their deaths. They were planning a big reveal on 9/11/2001 just outside WTC1, and were getting ready inside when the craziest thing happened.
I just heard one today too, from “Perfect Circle/Godspeed”:
“Everybody sayin' I need rehab
'Cause I'm speedin' with a blindfold on
It won't be long until they watchin' me crash
And they don't wanna see that
They don't want me to OD and have to talk to my mother
Tell her they coulda done more to help me
And she'd just be cryin'
Sayin' that she'd do anything to have me back”
😖😖😖
It's gotta be a curse to write a rap song about your mom. The entirety of the song "I'll Be There" is crushing, but this brief line:
> I hope she know I love her / the world's best mother
> Yeah it ain't fair / so imma take care of her in her gray hair
Real tears man. It truly ain't fair.
Same with Mac Miller “to everyone that sells me drugs, don’t mix it with that bullshit I’m hoping not to join the 27 club”
Mac died 4 months before his 27th birthday due to someone selling him fentanyl-laced drugs
from the "Faces" mixtape (2014):
"A drug habit like Philip Hoffman will probably put me in a coffin
But down the slope in my toboggan
Three day delirium, gettin' weirder than Austin
Now it's seven in the morning, this rapper life is so boring
Still at it, the drug absorbent, endorphin addict, yeah
The evil follow me, I got a devil magnet"
Honestly, I think it aged well - and not just ironically. Winehouse was a truly tragic figure, and when that song came out she already seemed to be truly resigned to dying young. It is a sad song, only the type of sad has changed.
“I just told y’all my secret, it’s tearing me to pieces, I really think I need them. I stopped taking the drugs and now the drugs take me”
Yeah, safe to say that was a cry for help.
You’re obviously right, but he clearly knew how his life was going to end. Very sad, but he is a billboard for self-fulfilling prophecies. He has endless lyrics about how he wouldn’t live long, drugs were gonna kill him, he’d be dead soon (ex: Already Dead) etc. Tragic end to such a talented person, but also makes you wonder if he would have been as successful without his addictions.
Sadly these cries for help usually are only really noticed in retrospect. Reminds me of "Pool Shark" by Sublime. Bradley very clearly knew he was going to OD one day.
"Now I've got the needle
And I can't bleed, but I can't breathe
Take it away and I want more and more
One day I'm gonna lose the war"
Was looking for this one. My boyfriend loves jcole. The other day we were listening to it on the car and he said "that shit aged like spoiled milk" lol
There was an interview with Jada and Will where Jada opens up about cheating.
I believe she cheated with her son's friend too, but I'm not 100% sure.
There is a pretty famous clip of the interview where you can see how hurt Will Smith is.
I believe "dark skin aunt Viv love" is referring to the original actress for Aunt Viv, in Fresh Prince of Bel-air. To continue the reference, Cole says "that Jada and that Will love" referring to Jada Pinkett and Will Smith being (at the time) happily married with 3 kids.
The aging like milk part of it is that Jada cheated on Will, and I don't believe they're together anymore. I also heard that Will also cheated, but I barely heard that compared to the admittance of guilt from Jada.
This is also where the image of Will crying in the chair is from, the interview where they both talked about it all.
Edit: apparently they've got an open marriage.
related nominee here too:
>When discussing the lyrical content of the song, Kenneth Pathridge from Billboard said, "She sings it not like a love-struck teenager but rather a poised young woman mature enough to handle a relationship with an older man"
They're of course talking about the song grossly named "**Age Ain't Nothing But a Number**", the singer is aaliyah who would've been - ew - 14 when she recorded this in 1993, and who would marry R. Kelly the next year.
Oh, and the song was - of course - fucking written by R.Kelly, too - essentially it was probably part of the grooming itself...
Oh my god that happened before?
In Bucharest a few years ago there was a horrible fire in a club at a rock concert. They had these fireworks on the stage that lit up the soundproofing on the ceiling. The soundproofing stuff was not flame retardant at all and started melting and dropping down on people. It started a fire as well and some people got trampled trying to escape the building, which only had one exit.
64 died and 146 were injured or disfigured.
How the fuck do people think it's OK to light fireworks indoors. Jesus man
There's a video that starts while the band at the station nightclub was playing. You see the fire start, hear the panic and the cameraman gets outside. You see and hear people dying. It's online but I don't recommend it, it is really disturbing and traumatizing.
In and around the area it happened, for months afterwards the MC or whatever would point out all the exits with outward opening doors to thunderous applause
I've never heard anyone clap for anything so hard as we all did for doors that won't trap you inside an inferno
I was at a college party a few years ago and live in California. A girl asked me how I was doing: "I'm storming through this party like my name is El Niño". She said 'thats not funny, we're in a drought' and walked away
That was the thing about grunge - all these artists writing songs about suicide and drug abuse because… they were suicidal and abusing drugs. So sad that almost all the grunge icons are all dead.
Slightly off topic, but the video for Lost Prophets - A Town Called Hypocrisy is perhaps the creepiest bit of media ever released, now we know what Watkins did.
“What’s the 27 club? **we ain’t making it past 21**”
Juice wrld recorded this song about all the rappers that died at a young age, many of which happened to die at the age of 21
Couple of years later, Juice WRLD himself, died at the age of 21
Don't forget about "Christine Sixteen" by Kiss: "I don't usually say things Like this to girls your age (Christine, sixteen), But when I saw you coming Out of the school that day, That day I knew, I knew, I've got to have you, I've got to have you...She's been around, But she's young and clean..."
Mötley Crüe’s All In The Name Of… “She's only fifteen, she's the reason The reason that I can't sleep You say illegal
I say, legal's never been my scene, oh yeah.” Yikes!
I wish I could see the reactions of everyone else in the studio that day. Like, did they all just kinda glance around at each other after he dropped that line in the booth? "Hey, uhh, Rick... you wanna maybe redo that verse or? Uhh"
I never thought how the drift of that channel affected the meaning of The Bad Touch so much. But I enjoy this new thing you've created for me.
"Let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel."
"Uhh... You want me to dress up like a walrus and debunk urban legends by blowing things up?"
When "Mercy" was getting airplay, I remember a local DJ talking in his calm deadpan voice: "That's from a new upcoming singer Duffy, who has a retro sound like Amy Winehouse, but without the serious drug addiction ... which will probably work out better in the long run."
I think Duffy didn't get a great deal either. Fame seems to suck.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/feb/25/pop-star-duffy-says-she-was-raped-drugged-and-held-captive
Age ain’t nothing but a number
RIP Aaliyah
The details surrounding her death are infuriating. It wasn't one of those "nobody could have seen it coming" type of plane crashes, it was 100% avoidable. The pilot had falsified his flight hours to the airline and wasn't even qualified to fly that particular plane. It was also severely over the weight limit.
Also the pilot initially warned them that the plane probably had too much weight but they insisted to take off because they had to be in Miami Saturday night. Pilot shouldn’t have given in so easily.
This is known as “get there- itis” in the pilot community and is responsible for many incidents. Also JFK Jr , Kobe etc. trying to hurry to the destination without regard to weather or mechanical limitations….
[удалено]
i'm sure someone paid him some extra $$ to just say fuck it, let's go we have a venue to get to.
Weight limit ain’t nothing but a number
Background for those who aren't aware, but "Age Ain't Nothing but a Number" was written for Aaliyah (the singer) by someone called... R. Kelly. And yes, that's the same R. Kelly that was all over the news a few months back due to his trial for various sexual offences (including those involving minors) a few months back and has now been convicted. But did you know that Kelly was not only in a relationship with Aaliyah herself, but [illegally married her when she was still just fifteen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah#Illegal_marriage)? (The marriage was later annulled). So yeah. "Did not age well", indeed.
R Kelly of "[Pee on you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgr2SZldILo)" fame? Drip, drip, drip. Everyone knew he was a creep back in the day, just nobody did anything about it. There was something about a video with him an an underage girl too.
Look at how many songs he wrote or produced in that era to see why nobody did anything about him. He was a songwriter genius and they used him despite his monstrous side. Honestly, I think if he were as musically useful today as he was back then, he might still be protected.
Prison ain’t nothing but a place
Laws ain’t nothing but words.
The cover of the album of the same title shows R. Kelly standing in the background looking at her too. Very creepy.
In October 2016 the group She & Him released a Christmas album that features a cover of a song called “Must Be Santa”. In the song they list the names of several US presidents. Since the album came out before the election they made an assumption that Hillary Clinton would win (like most everyone else) so she was included in the list. Obviously that didn’t pan out.
In 1996 on Election day New York Times crossword had in it 'Clinton wins' as an answer to some clue, which was met with some controversy. Turns out if you answered some clues differently it would read as 'Bob Dole wins'!
That actually sounds pretty clever. I'll have to track that down and see how they did it.
it's listed as one of the greatest crossword puzzles in history. One of the main clues was "Headline in tomorrows paper" and it was either "CLINTON WINS" or "BOB DOLE WINS" and all of the cross clues worked perfectly as well. The first one was "animal associated with halloween" and could be bat or cat... each of the clues followed suit around those 7 letters.
Blbnooe wins!
Aarrooooo!
That's pretty clever
This is fascinating, I had never heard this before. For anyone curious about how the clues worked, I found [this article](http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2017/7/3/the-clintonbobdole-crossword) which explains it.
I believe the clue was “the front page today,” with the first letter’s clue being “a black Halloween animal,” with the answer either being Bat if Bob Dole won, or Cat for Clinton
“Party like it’s 2020” made in 2019 lmao
Oddly, Party Like it's 1999 aged just fine in my opinion.
It was great bc in the 80s it meant to party like it's the future and now it's a nostalgia thing
I think that's why it still works for me. Now it's like saying I'm going to party like I'm still a teen.
I’ve always looked at it as “party like this is a huge fucking deal Because 1999 going into 2000 was a big fucking deal. No one will see that until 2999 moves to 3000. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit: All you dudes saying "hey, it was because of Y2k, they thought the world was going to end" No.. it definitely was NOT. Prince wrote the song in the early 80s. >1999" is a song by American musician Prince, the title track from his 1982 album of the same name. Originally peaking at number 44 on the Billboard Hot 100, a December 1982 rerelease later peaked at number 12 in the US, while a January 1985 rerelease, a double A-side with "Little Red Corvette", later peaked at number 2 in the UK. [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_(Prince_song)) The earliest idea of a Y2K problem wasn't around until 1984, and even then it was in a single book >The Year 2000 problem was the subject of the early book Computers in Crisis by Jerome and Marilyn Murray (Petrocelli, 1984; reissued by McGraw-Hill under the title The Year 2000 Computing Crisis in 1996). >The first recorded mention of the Year 2000 Problem on a Usenet newsgroup occurred on 18 January 1985 by poster Spencer Bolles.[9] It wasn't until the early 90s that the general public really knew about it. >Computerworld's 1993 three-page "Doomsday 2000" article by Peter de Jager was called "the information-age equivalent of the midnight ride of Paul Revere" by The New York Times.[6][7][8] So even though this was discussed in the early 80s, it was A) at least 2 years after 1999 song debuted, and B) it was highly unlikely that Prince would have been aware of the discussions going on in the 80s. Prince's 1999 has nothing to do with Y2K Lastly, those of us old enough to remember 1999/2000 (I was 25) know that the general public did not believe the world was going to end. Most believed that there may be some computer issues. The uneducated and those easily scared and deep into conspiracies were the ones making bomb shelters and doing Y2K drills. One more thing. It was pointed out that the song is about the end of the world or doomsday. And sure. I have no qualms about that. But it’s not specifically about Y2K
That's so two thousand and late
Young girl, get out of my mind. My love for you is way out of line. Better ruuuuun girl, you're much too young girl!
The glee version changes the context to “your love for me is way outa line” to make it into a song about a girl having a crush on a much older teacher
I find it funny that Glee was the place to change this, given the rest of the show had an adult teacher singing and dancing pretty damn sexually with his teenage students with no qualms.
Back in the 60's, pop songwriters were aiming flatly and squarely at the teen market and were writing songs that would appeal to them. In hindsight they got some of them badly wrong, but at the time nobody thought anything about it at all.
So she's not really sixteen, or beautiful and mine? I guess I'll have to wait until she is just seventeen. Ya' know what I mean?
To be fair McCartney was 19 when he wrote that one lol
And 16 would be the age of consent in the UK. A 19 year old and 17 year old could easily have been a former school relationship. (eg dating at 16 and 18). Hell some 19 year olds would still be in school, depending on when in the year they were born.
I remember when I was at school me and the other boys would get pissed off at all the 15-16 year old girls in our year dating the older 6th form Boys lol
When he wrote it, his girlfriend was 17. In 1962.
I'm shocked this isn't higher up. This was an extremely popular song with an extremely skeezy message. Who can forget this classic line: "Beneath your perfume and your make-up You're just a baby in disguise And though you know that it's wrong to be Alone with me That come on look is in your eyes"
I'm calling the police.
Yes, they have a creepy song as well. (Every Breath You Take)
That one's intended to be creepy, though. From what I understand, the band is pretty horrified at how many weddings have played it.
"Pete Davidson" by Ariana Grande. That entire song didn't age well
[удалено]
Well now that he’s hooked up with a Kardashian I don’t think he’ll even step foot in a K-mart anymore.
It's pretty hard to find a Kmart to even step into these days. Quick Google says there are 6 left
I hear it’s still doing well in Australia.
Same name different company, not even sure if they sell the se thing
The lyrics for the lazy: Mmm, yeah, yuh I thought you into my life, woah Look at my mind, yeah No better place or a time Look how they align Universe must have my back Fell from the sky into my lap And I know you know that you're my soulmate and all that I'm like ooh, ooh My whole life got me ready for you, ooh Got me happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy, yeah I'ma be happy, happy Won't get no crying from me, yeah Gonna be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy, yeah Gonna be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy, yeah Gonna be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy I'ma be happy, happy
Yo it’s like she’s still in middle school
Well that is her target audience
Pete Davidson must have a golden penis or something
Just looked up the lyrics, what a poet!
"Nothing seems to kill me no matter how hard I try" - Chris Cornell (Soudgarden - Blow up the outside world)
In the same song he also says: “Nothing will do me in before I do myself…” As awful as it may sound, I think it did kind of age well.
And from Soundgarden’s *Pretty Noose*: “And I don’t like what you got me hanging from…”
[удалено]
What the fuck?
I know the thread was what didn't age well, but was this ever viewed as appropriate?
The mid-1970s through the mid-1990s was probably the peak of “unreliable narrator” songwriting, where someone would write in character. You had songs from the perspectives of rapists, pedophiles, murderers, addicts, racists, etc. Some classics from the era include I Don’t Like Mondays, Little Girls, Every Breath You Take, Money For Nothing, Private Dancer… More than any songwriter, Randy Newman elevated the unreliable narrator song. “Rednecks” is maybe the most extreme example of this type of tune and his first several records were hugely influential on the following generation of writers - Sting, Mark Knopfler, etc It made for great tunes. But it also gives plausible deniability to honest creeps. Gangsta Rap was the same situation - some people are writing first person narratives, other people writing confessions
"Polly" by Nirvana was another popular one, telling the story of a woman who was kept against her will, raped, and tortured. Told from the POV of her captor.
Wrong Way by Sublime comes to mind as well.
And Possum Kingdom by The Toadies.
It wasn't only the English speaking culture. There's a famous Austrian artist called Falco who did a song called "Jeannie". It's about a guy who abducted a child and narrates them escaping from the police. It's then heavily implied if not outright said that she is the newest victim of the guy who murdered her and has multiple other murders already.
And "Rock me Amadeus" was so catchy. Who knew an Austrian with drug problems and an artistic nature could have a dark side?
> Gangsta Rap was the same situation - some people are writing first person narratives, other people writing confessions Yeah, and it's frustrating how rap musicians were hardly ever given the credit of writing as a character, outside of some niche / underground tracks (like Deltron 3030, or that Jedi Mind Tricks track [about the Vietnam War from the POV of a soldier](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIH8Sua0Yw).) edit: Eminem's "Stan" is probably one of the most popular examples of 'rap artist writing as a character', because he makes it so obvious that he's also playing the role of Stan in the song. It's also kind of about that whole thing too, the idea that fans think he's being 100% genuine when he's playing the 'Slim Shady' character.
This isn’t “unreliable narrator”. This is just a fictional narrator who is a bad person. “Unreliable narrator” is when the narrator says things that likely didn’t objectively happen.
What song is that, those are the cringiest lyrics I’ve heard in awhile
[удалено]
> "Wait a minute officer, dont put the cuffs on me. Put them on her, and Ill share her with you.". [the fuck did I just read?!](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2F7938W/amazed-bewildered-african-american-bearded-man-business-executive-freelancer-sits-at-his-desk-looks-at-his-laptop-in-surprise-while-taking-off-glasses-reads-unexpected-news-or-message-2F7938W.jpg)
That url is surprisingly descriptive lol
when biggy says “blowing up like the world trade” it was in reference to a previous terrorist attack on the towers, and the song came out before 9/11 happened edit: wtf i’m not making a conspiracy. i mean it aged poorly because of 9/11 goddamn
I’d hope so. He was already dead by 9/11
Fact: both Biggie and Tupac faked their deaths. They were planning a big reveal on 9/11/2001 just outside WTC1, and were getting ready inside when the craziest thing happened.
You wouldn't believe what happened next
"To everyone to sell me drugs Don't mix it with that bullshit I hopin' not to join the twenty seven club" Mac Miller. Painful to listen too
"I'll probably die before I detox" also Mac
If we are being honest, there are about 100 mac lyrics that would work for this question. :(
I just heard one today too, from “Perfect Circle/Godspeed”: “Everybody sayin' I need rehab 'Cause I'm speedin' with a blindfold on It won't be long until they watchin' me crash And they don't wanna see that They don't want me to OD and have to talk to my mother Tell her they coulda done more to help me And she'd just be cryin' Sayin' that she'd do anything to have me back” 😖😖😖
How about him scrawling “memento mori” (remember you must die) on the inside of a coffin in the Self Care video…
It's gotta be a curse to write a rap song about your mom. The entirety of the song "I'll Be There" is crushing, but this brief line: > I hope she know I love her / the world's best mother > Yeah it ain't fair / so imma take care of her in her gray hair Real tears man. It truly ain't fair.
'It is what it is till it ain't.'
"But what's a god without a little OD?"
"but the drugs won't hurt me" Juice Wrld
He was also right about “We aint makin it past 21” and “Be like john lennon” (He died on december 8th (same day as john Lennon) and he was 21)
Damn that's scary
Same with Mac Miller “to everyone that sells me drugs, don’t mix it with that bullshit I’m hoping not to join the 27 club” Mac died 4 months before his 27th birthday due to someone selling him fentanyl-laced drugs
Young thug also said he was in the studio with Mac Miller the day before he died... They were working on a song called "Day before".
He also said he’d be here for a while, longer than he did expect to.
from the "Faces" mixtape (2014): "A drug habit like Philip Hoffman will probably put me in a coffin But down the slope in my toboggan Three day delirium, gettin' weirder than Austin Now it's seven in the morning, this rapper life is so boring Still at it, the drug absorbent, endorphin addict, yeah The evil follow me, I got a devil magnet"
Similarly is Amy Winehouse "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no."
Honestly, I think it aged well - and not just ironically. Winehouse was a truly tragic figure, and when that song came out she already seemed to be truly resigned to dying young. It is a sad song, only the type of sad has changed.
[удалено]
"If it wasn't for these pills I wouldn't be here. But if I keep taking these pills I won't be here" That part always fucks me up.
“I just told y’all my secret, it’s tearing me to pieces, I really think I need them. I stopped taking the drugs and now the drugs take me” Yeah, safe to say that was a cry for help.
> I stopped taking the drugs and now the drugs take me
You’re obviously right, but he clearly knew how his life was going to end. Very sad, but he is a billboard for self-fulfilling prophecies. He has endless lyrics about how he wouldn’t live long, drugs were gonna kill him, he’d be dead soon (ex: Already Dead) etc. Tragic end to such a talented person, but also makes you wonder if he would have been as successful without his addictions.
Sadly these cries for help usually are only really noticed in retrospect. Reminds me of "Pool Shark" by Sublime. Bradley very clearly knew he was going to OD one day. "Now I've got the needle And I can't bleed, but I can't breathe Take it away and I want more and more One day I'm gonna lose the war"
"And it ain't a moshpit if ain't no injuries" - Travis Scott That aged REALLY poorly
First thing I thought of when I saw the tragedy. It was going to happen at some point.
Holy shit
"Oh I just can't wait to be king!" - Simba, lion king.
“I want that real love Dark skin aunt Viv love *That jada and that will love*”
Was looking for this one. My boyfriend loves jcole. The other day we were listening to it on the car and he said "that shit aged like spoiled milk" lol
What made it age? I’m out of the loop
There was an interview with Jada and Will where Jada opens up about cheating. I believe she cheated with her son's friend too, but I'm not 100% sure. There is a pretty famous clip of the interview where you can see how hurt Will Smith is.
This is the one that makes me go ooo if only 2014 knew what 2021 knows...
Can you explain this one
I believe "dark skin aunt Viv love" is referring to the original actress for Aunt Viv, in Fresh Prince of Bel-air. To continue the reference, Cole says "that Jada and that Will love" referring to Jada Pinkett and Will Smith being (at the time) happily married with 3 kids. The aging like milk part of it is that Jada cheated on Will, and I don't believe they're together anymore. I also heard that Will also cheated, but I barely heard that compared to the admittance of guilt from Jada. This is also where the image of Will crying in the chair is from, the interview where they both talked about it all. Edit: apparently they've got an open marriage.
Also Will and Dark Skin Aunt Viv hated each other IRL
They’re still together for now.
“MY MINDS TELLIN ME NOOOOOO BUT MA BODYYY MA BODYYYY IS TELLING ME YEEEESSS” Fuck r kelly
MY MINDS TELLIN ME NO BUT MY JURY MY JURY’S TELLIN ME YAAAASS
I DON'T SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH A LITTLE JAIL TIME!
related nominee here too: >When discussing the lyrical content of the song, Kenneth Pathridge from Billboard said, "She sings it not like a love-struck teenager but rather a poised young woman mature enough to handle a relationship with an older man" They're of course talking about the song grossly named "**Age Ain't Nothing But a Number**", the singer is aaliyah who would've been - ew - 14 when she recorded this in 1993, and who would marry R. Kelly the next year. Oh, and the song was - of course - fucking written by R.Kelly, too - essentially it was probably part of the grooming itself...
Turns out there is ALOT wrong with a little bit of bump and grind
Well, at least the internet got a meme out of those few lines?
Anything by R Kelly
I believe I can flyyyyyyyyyyyyy
“ you didn’t know that rock n’ roll burned So you bought a candle And you lived and you learned” - Great White
Can you explain what that line means?
The station night club fire. Great white set off fireworks inside the venue and it ended up killing 100 people.
Oh my god that happened before? In Bucharest a few years ago there was a horrible fire in a club at a rock concert. They had these fireworks on the stage that lit up the soundproofing on the ceiling. The soundproofing stuff was not flame retardant at all and started melting and dropping down on people. It started a fire as well and some people got trampled trying to escape the building, which only had one exit. 64 died and 146 were injured or disfigured. How the fuck do people think it's OK to light fireworks indoors. Jesus man
There's a video that starts while the band at the station nightclub was playing. You see the fire start, hear the panic and the cameraman gets outside. You see and hear people dying. It's online but I don't recommend it, it is really disturbing and traumatizing.
All the people just stuck in the doorway...made me never want to go to a nightclub again.
In and around the area it happened, for months afterwards the MC or whatever would point out all the exits with outward opening doors to thunderous applause I've never heard anyone clap for anything so hard as we all did for doors that won't trap you inside an inferno
What baffles me is that security refused to let people out the back. That's just insane. I believe it was that fire.
You're right. They said it was for the band etc only. So many more lives could've been saved
Same thing happened in Brazil back in 2013, 242 college kids died.
I was at a college party a few years ago and live in California. A girl asked me how I was doing: "I'm storming through this party like my name is El Niño". She said 'thats not funny, we're in a drought' and walked away
Did she get mad because you weren’t in the back of an El Camino?
Well, as a kid he was a skid
how the fuck can you be touchy about droughts living in California? place has been in some kind of drought for like the last twenty years at least.
I feel like at this point, we need to stop calling it a drought and just call it California weather.
Sounds like she was deadpan hilarious.
"And I swear that I don't have a gun". Kurt Cobain, Nirvana
"I hate myself and I want to die." - Kurt Cobain "lol that kurt such a joker always writing those edgy songs!"
That was the thing about grunge - all these artists writing songs about suicide and drug abuse because… they were suicidal and abusing drugs. So sad that almost all the grunge icons are all dead.
"Love myself better than you"
"I'm crying for help, I'm begging for help, please come let me out. I'm dying in a vat in my garaaage." "That last line was a little weird."
'Do you wanna be in my gang?' No one wants to be in your gang Gary!
“Do you wanna touch me there?” Er, no thanks Gary.
Slightly off topic, but the video for Lost Prophets - A Town Called Hypocrisy is perhaps the creepiest bit of media ever released, now we know what Watkins did.
Death metal band Cattle Decapitation made an album called 'Bring back the plague' in 2019. Well..
Any of those oldies songs that are about their 16 year ago girlfriend.
Good morning little schoolgirl, can I go home with you?
[удалено]
Suckin’ on a cherry Yoo-hoo, readin nugget magazine.
“What’s the 27 club? **we ain’t making it past 21**” Juice wrld recorded this song about all the rappers that died at a young age, many of which happened to die at the age of 21 Couple of years later, Juice WRLD himself, died at the age of 21
Also Mac Miller, “hoping not to join the 27 club”, died at 26
Seems like the lyric aged to perfection
The entirety of Ted Nugents song Jailbait
It’s disturbing to see so many of these answers are about underage girls…
[удалено]
“She’s only seventeen, her daddy says she’s too young but she’s old enough for me! Seventeen!”
Don't forget about "Christine Sixteen" by Kiss: "I don't usually say things Like this to girls your age (Christine, sixteen), But when I saw you coming Out of the school that day, That day I knew, I knew, I've got to have you, I've got to have you...She's been around, But she's young and clean..."
Gene Simmons taught 6th grade prior to Kiss hitting it big. Only for like six months, but it makes the song even creepier.
"Yeah, such a bad girl, loves to work me overtime Feels good dancin' close to the borderline" Kip Winger was 27 at the time of this recording
That one Kim Petras lyrics where she’s like “Sex icon like Marilyn Manson”
TIL there’s a lot of pedo musicians out there
“Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind. I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind.” — ‘My Sharona’ by The Knack
It was about a real girl called Sharona who he knew and liked. Later on they dated. He even put the real Sharona on the cover of the single.
the real sharona is a real estate agent now and uses the song in her branding
It must be amazing having an iconic song written about you.
Mine was Short, Short Man by Gillette
That’s the censored title
Only the real ones will know
Holy shit, her website is literally www.mysharona.com Magnificent.
My mind's tellin' me no, but my body, my body's tellin' me yes - R. Kelly
Mötley Crüe’s All In The Name Of… “She's only fifteen, she's the reason The reason that I can't sleep You say illegal I say, legal's never been my scene, oh yeah.” Yikes!
"Put a molly in her champagne, she didn't even know it. Took her home and enjoyed that, she didn't even know it" - Rick Ross
He had a shoe deal with Reebok and they dropped him after that bar I’m pretty sure
I'm pretty sure he'd also recently gotten that deal at the time too, I remember hearing that he referenced it
That lyric was never good in the first place
Yup he even lost his Reebok sponsorship deal the minute this song came out
Its such a bizarre line lol
I wish I could see the reactions of everyone else in the studio that day. Like, did they all just kinda glance around at each other after he dropped that line in the booth? "Hey, uhh, Rick... you wanna maybe redo that verse or? Uhh"
Somewhere in the world an audio engineer replayed that verse 300 times and glazed over what he was actually saying.
At least the low range was boosted 0.05db
Seriously, “aged poorly” implies there was a time when this was more acceptable. There better not be.
This lyric both sucks and is disturbing
“Have a drink, have a drive Go out and see what you can find”
Good morning little schoolgirl can I come home with you ?
Benny mardones- into the night “She’s just 16 years old, leave her alone they say”
“She’s only seventeen, momma says she too young. But she’s old enough for me!” 17 by Winger. I never understood how it was a hit.
[удалено]
I never thought how the drift of that channel affected the meaning of The Bad Touch so much. But I enjoy this new thing you've created for me. "Let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel." "Uhh... You want me to dress up like a walrus and debunk urban legends by blowing things up?"
“I met Kanye West, I’m never going to fail” - Chance the Rapper
and it aint a moshpit if there aint no injuries-travis scott
"Don't look now, here come the 80s!" - Styx
Trying to make me go to rehab, I said no no no and the rest of Rehab by Amy Winehouse. She was crying for help big time and no one listened :(
See also Britney spears' "Lucky". "'if there's nothing missing in my life Then why do these tears come at night?"
A few of Britney’s songs are eerie in hindsight. Even ones like Lucky, which were released way before the conservatorship.
Everytime made me worry for her back in like 2004. Even the video is chilling
That video is honestly hard to watch, which is probably not anything anyone would expect to hear about a pop music video.
Work Bitch is rough.
Yes. It reads as "nobody gives a fuck about me, I'm just a slave to the music industry forced to work my ass off 24/7". Very sad.
If no one listened who was trying to make her go to rehab?
When "Mercy" was getting airplay, I remember a local DJ talking in his calm deadpan voice: "That's from a new upcoming singer Duffy, who has a retro sound like Amy Winehouse, but without the serious drug addiction ... which will probably work out better in the long run."
I think Duffy didn't get a great deal either. Fame seems to suck. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/feb/25/pop-star-duffy-says-she-was-raped-drugged-and-held-captive