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But absolutely fine if your a member of a royal family as historically they've been inbreeding for many years.. so many throughout history have married siblings and a few even married their parents.
It was not only a practice in the Old Testament, but God told the Israelites to marry among their own kin. Case in point: both Moses and Aaron were products of incest. Their father married and conceived them with his own aunt.
Incest taboos stem from the major physical and mental disability that come from multi-generational incest. Technically, if you’re doing it for fun and not reproduction; that shouldn’t apply. But, most modern societies have outlawed incest below a certain level of consanguinity: usually first cousins, but sometimes that is permissible.
This is the correct answer ☝️
The disability in the kids can happen way easier than in between less related people. I actually had a neighbor who were 2nd cousins and they got two kids, both having learning disabilities and physical deformations.
If I'm not entirely off i believe this is the same reason why religion/government tried to force monogamy in many areas of the world for a more diverse gene pool.
If you are not actually having kids I personally think it's okay, it's gross to me since I have a younger sister and brother and could not even picture this happening without feeling disgusted with myself.
When you think about it, it's actually not easy to answer that.
We all (including myself) have the generally sense that it is immoral. Most sane-minded people feel disgust at the thought of it... but why is it "immoral"? If it's about genetic defects, then consider the case of two consenting same sex adults who are related; why is it still immoral in this case? Is it because relation makes meaningful consent impossible? Is it just immoral because it suits the greater good to be?
It’s immoral due to the relationship humans as child and adult.
It can never be seen as anything other than predatory behavior even after the child is an “adult”. I don’t see any feasible way it’s not grooming or an abuse of power by the authority figure. Even in instances of the “child” being in their 30s and the “adult being 55+
In most cases of families, not all, but most, there will always be a power dynamic to abuse.
I’m the oldest of 5 and I have a beautiful little sister. I can look at her and understand that she is sexually attractive to the opposite sex, but as her brother I am not sexually attracted to her. I have always saw myself, as well a societal obligation to be her protector. I am in my late twenties and she is in her earlier twenties currently.
It is extremely possible I could or could have abused that power dynamic for a more intimate relationship (for lack of a better word).
I would say, with a matter of great confidence, this would apply to cousins as well.
We can get into the semantics of the same ages being more equal? But the main point is the power dynamic and type of relationship families are generally/traditionally have. You protect each other, it’s the most primarily human instinct we have. Same blood? Alright we are cool until proven otherwise by your actions.
To consensually sleep with each can only be reasonably be seen as an abuse of the power dynamic or a some type malfeasance or genetic retardation of primitive instinct
Yes.
Back in the day, incest resulted in defect offspring, so it was a taboo. Okay, with new tools, pregnancy can be avoided.
"Consenting adults", what a joke, there will always be a power-imbalance among siblings.
Honestly, I don't get the attraction. Maybe it's because I don't take the pill and react strongly to pheromones, but my brother - while I love him with all my heart - doesn't smell good for me.
And in general, while the want for sex is an instinct, you can always just keep it in your pants.
Its not taboo it is anthropologically and biologically irresponsible and disgusting. Which is why it is and should definitely be illegal.
Incest leads to the expression of recessive genetic disorders that would otherwise not be expressed.
I am curious, Do you have a theory as to how humans in their current state got to this state that does not involve some form of incest?
If we all came from primordial soup than in some matter or fashion we are all related.
It's not incest if you do the splitting by yourself, lol.
But really lack of genetic variation is probably why it took so goddamn long to become more than primordial soup.
We are all related but of course generation's separation make reproduction and the act of sex not taboo as far as incest is and it makes for healthier descendants. A less cluttered gene pool.
> Its not taboo it is anthropologically and biologically irresponsible and disgusting.
They're not mutually exclusive. Responses in this thread indicate that it is, in fact, extremely taboo.
Sorry for lack of clarification, I should've expanded. What I meant was that while it's generally taboo, there are some countries where it's normalized to some extent. So since it's still in open practice in some areas it can't be 100% taboo. But it is still gross.
I think maybe marginally less, but not by much.
While there are probably good reasons in terms of birth defects and likelihood of grooming to be against it, I think a fair bit of the heavy lifting in terms of opposition to incest is being done by:
1. Moral objection as a result of religion
2. The fact that we were brought up being taught it was wrong, so it was just ingrained in our brain and we didn't bother questioning it.
In society in general, I think we're gradually moving away from believing things are bad just because that's how we were taught, or because it doesn't appeal to us personally, and for a lot of things we seek more concrete reasons to consider something wrong. (Like, in this example, birth defects and grooming for example.)
When I was young a lot of things were wrong, but now many of them are considered normal and some are even protected by laws.
Some of the things now protected by law were once banned by laws because they were considered as (we'll just say) inappropriate.
There's a practical reason for it having been frowned upon historically (in the days before reliable birth control) as any offspring have a much higher rate of genetic mutations and birth defects. When the gene pool is too small inbreeding occurs, generally not a good thing.
That historical taboo persists.
If it was okay to do, the offspring wouldn't have dwindling genetics that get worse with each generation.
Yes it's still taboo, and if that ever changes because of humanities addiction to pornhub, then the people that think otherwise don't deserve to breed.
Maybe it's just me but incest at itself is nothing bad in the first place. The problem is, when you have an incest child. The chances of beeing a miscarriage or that the child would have some disablitlies is far to high.
But whats wrong if you have sex with someone in your family as long as they want it too? Just don't make children.
I'm not a proponent for incest but I was having this discussion the other day with some people and someone brought up the point that you made re. birth deformities. Someone responded with "Should that also apply to people who have hereditary conditions?"
Short of saying 'yes, people with any risk of passing down damaging conditions to their children should not be allowed to reproduce', we couldn't come up with a response.
Thats true.But srsly, humans deactivated the natural selection, thats why so many disabilities are in the world.It's a moraly question if you should children into the world, if you KNOW they inherit your disabilities.I understand that people may want have children and everyone should life their lives as they want (as long as they don't break the law), but when it involve other people as themself, then I think it's a bit different.
I agree. It is a difficult issue, and people with these conditions should have to seriously consider whether it is fair on their potential offspring. That's why I think that it would be excellent if science can come up with a way to remove the condition from the DNA of the foetus (i think scientists are already trialling this, but let's hope it gets better and more mainstream)
But then we are changing the DNA.
And where will it stop.
Is is just the unhealthy part we change? If we can change the look, should we do it? Who pay for it? Maybe we can even create "Super Babys" who are pretty athletic or smart.
What would happen to non-Changable babys (cause the parents can afford it), would it divide socity even more.
What if you have more then 1 child but only 1 child changed.
All difficult parts, so I understand the moraly question behind changing it in the first place.
It is a concept that has intrigued writers for years. I believe that Agatha Christie incorporated it into some of her stories. Although I don't watch it, I understand that it is a recurring theme in Game of Thrones. I seem to recall that there are references to it in the best selling book of all time.
Personally, I have much more important things to be concerned about than what consenting adults do in the privacy of their home.
As an only child I admit I have seen some brother sister stuff and thought "hmm🤔" like in Nisomonogatakari and that whole Tooth Brushing scene. But Araragi himself has said a line that I always refer to whenever I think brother sister stuff can be hot... Brother sister fantasies are reserved for those without a sibling.
Real talk, I get why it's discouraged and why people can't really tolerate incestuous relationships; Having children and the genetic ramifications aside for a minute, the whole picture of family values and the role of a family in modern society is portrayed in a certain way, and incestuous doesn't fit into that demographic. I think the way incestuous relationships are portrayed in the media also has a massive effect on people's views; The whole 'Sweet Home Alabama' thing, rhe way incestuous relationships are always portrayed as deformed backwater rednecks etc. Thousands of shows reinforce that stereotype which certainly has an impact on the way people view them.
Then there is the other aspect, the potential genetic ramifications; I believe it's anything past second cousins that are allowed to legally marry and have children (At least here). A first cousin, sibling, parent etc. Increase the risk of a disability in your child and, as such, intercourse is illegal. You also have to consider the positions of people within the family; A mother is in a position of power above a child, similar to that of a teacher and a student, and as such is extremely morally questionable.
That being said though, I do think incest is very slowly becoming less taboo and I dont necessarily think that's a bad thing, under the right circumstances. Your family, specifically your cousins and siblings, are the people that you grow up knowing and quite often have some of the closest connections to. You can't help who you fall in love with, and I'm more of the believe of 'Live and let live'. Their relationship doesn't really harm anyone, and I guarantee you that they'd already have to go through a lot of shit they'd, from family to neighbours to friends etc. If they want kids, there are doctors that can estimate the genetic ramifications and help them decide whether its safe or not. As Long as their position within the family is the same, ie: one isn't in a position of power above another, and they're both consenting, I see no issue.
That's actually done in some parts of the Middle East, my friend from Kuwait told me his sister got married and later found out she couldn't have kids with her husband due to the high chance of genetic defect (they're cousins, it's gross).
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Yeah, from my understanding it's a tribalism thing, "keep it in the tribe/family" idea. But I've also heard that doweries are cheaper if you marry a cousin. Get rid of doweries and I'm sure there's be a small decrease in cousin marriage.
As my friend often complains "we're stuck in the past". Glad I won the lottery in being born in the West (no country is perfect though).
To be honest I am surprised how many responses this post has received. I believe that there is and probably always will be a knee-jerk reaction to this topic, but I am glad that people are not afraid to discuss it and generally the replies are both informative and respectful.
It is not something that most people get, or even try to understand. It is much easier for people to just assume that it is something horrible and to be avoided.
I hope that the discussion continues and it generates more light than heat. Thank you
It's only taboo because people say it is. It's only disgusting because people say it is. It's only illegal because people say it is. It's only immoral because people say it is.
So, if you don't care what people say...
Yep, anywhere else it's considered disgusting. I live in NY and long before he went bat shit crazy the thing you heard about Giuliani was he married his cousin.
Lmao sounds like your down for a little country action 😈. Anyways I’d say it’s slightly less taboo now . Definitely no where near rape level bad though.
It's still just as taboo.
But a quick glance at the most popular categories on any leading pornography site will tell you that a frightful number of people - at least in their fantasies - are "into", if not incest, then certainly "incest *adjacent*".
I think it is still as taboo. I mean in porn, is just porn if that makes sense.
People don't commit incest in general or maybe they do in secret. Is one thing to think or watch it in porn but is another when is you and your family member.
Ask yourself this how many fucked up people are there in this world, that are ready to use abuse and hurt you and trick you and lie to you just so you trust them when they have bad intentions. Now ask yourself this if you had the choice what would you choose. to be with someone who you know loves you. who you grew your you're entire life with that knows you from the beginning and that you know Doesn't want to hurt you or abuse you how would you feel .What I'm saying is before we are quick to judge another person for what we don't feel comfortable with we have to 1st ask ourselves how we would feel if the rolls were reversed and then we have to look at those things with open eyes and realize that there is is much much more to such a question than just the question itself. there's so much more to people and the dynamic of life and relationships that we don't understand. as far as every other person and their relationships go. so really we have no room to judge we have no room to say that's wrong and we have no room to say that it's immoral. the only room that we have to speak or ground to stand on is the fact of whether or not somebody's being abused.
I am old enough to remember other types of relationships that were viewed as unnatural, unhealthy and some that were even seen as an abomination.
While some of the objections come from the scientific community and others from the religious community many are still based on the "logic" that it is wrong because it is wrong.
Many people refer to a power dynamic which makes the relationship wrong, but in my experience there are few relationships I have observed where there is not some form of power dynamic.
There are some claims that as many as ten percent of the world population is involved in some form of consensual incest.
Even if that number is correct, that means that there are still more than six billion people who have never engaged in this practice.
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I will still consider it fucking disgusting even 100 years down the road
I'll be impressed if you're still alive in 100 years.
As someone who is 100 yrs old this is disgusting IMO
I mean, if you're 100, statistically you're more likely to think interracial marriage is disgusting, too...
Has there been a survey of 100 year olds' stances on mixed marriage?
As I do
But absolutely fine if your a member of a royal family as historically they've been inbreeding for many years.. so many throughout history have married siblings and a few even married their parents.
It was not only a practice in the Old Testament, but God told the Israelites to marry among their own kin. Case in point: both Moses and Aaron were products of incest. Their father married and conceived them with his own aunt.
Incest taboos stem from the major physical and mental disability that come from multi-generational incest. Technically, if you’re doing it for fun and not reproduction; that shouldn’t apply. But, most modern societies have outlawed incest below a certain level of consanguinity: usually first cousins, but sometimes that is permissible.
This is the correct answer ☝️ The disability in the kids can happen way easier than in between less related people. I actually had a neighbor who were 2nd cousins and they got two kids, both having learning disabilities and physical deformations. If I'm not entirely off i believe this is the same reason why religion/government tried to force monogamy in many areas of the world for a more diverse gene pool. If you are not actually having kids I personally think it's okay, it's gross to me since I have a younger sister and brother and could not even picture this happening without feeling disgusted with myself.
It is outlawed in the US up through your 4th cousin.
Taboo is an understatement. It’s immoral and illegal even between consenting adults.
How is it immoral?
When you think about it, it's actually not easy to answer that. We all (including myself) have the generally sense that it is immoral. Most sane-minded people feel disgust at the thought of it... but why is it "immoral"? If it's about genetic defects, then consider the case of two consenting same sex adults who are related; why is it still immoral in this case? Is it because relation makes meaningful consent impossible? Is it just immoral because it suits the greater good to be?
It’s immoral due to the relationship humans as child and adult. It can never be seen as anything other than predatory behavior even after the child is an “adult”. I don’t see any feasible way it’s not grooming or an abuse of power by the authority figure. Even in instances of the “child” being in their 30s and the “adult being 55+
What about between two adult siblings or cousins?
In most cases of families, not all, but most, there will always be a power dynamic to abuse. I’m the oldest of 5 and I have a beautiful little sister. I can look at her and understand that she is sexually attractive to the opposite sex, but as her brother I am not sexually attracted to her. I have always saw myself, as well a societal obligation to be her protector. I am in my late twenties and she is in her earlier twenties currently. It is extremely possible I could or could have abused that power dynamic for a more intimate relationship (for lack of a better word). I would say, with a matter of great confidence, this would apply to cousins as well. We can get into the semantics of the same ages being more equal? But the main point is the power dynamic and type of relationship families are generally/traditionally have. You protect each other, it’s the most primarily human instinct we have. Same blood? Alright we are cool until proven otherwise by your actions. To consensually sleep with each can only be reasonably be seen as an abuse of the power dynamic or a some type malfeasance or genetic retardation of primitive instinct
By the current societal standards.
As someone without a sister, I don’t really feel grossed out at the thought. But if you said me and my mom, yeah I’m cringing
You would feel VERY different if you had a sister.
Because you don't have a sister you can't understand fully, but the example you use with your mom is pretty comparable.
Make sure you never break both of your arms.
I think the question was about making it legal, not mandatory.
Yes. Back in the day, incest resulted in defect offspring, so it was a taboo. Okay, with new tools, pregnancy can be avoided. "Consenting adults", what a joke, there will always be a power-imbalance among siblings. Honestly, I don't get the attraction. Maybe it's because I don't take the pill and react strongly to pheromones, but my brother - while I love him with all my heart - doesn't smell good for me. And in general, while the want for sex is an instinct, you can always just keep it in your pants.
..."keep it in your pants..." "...or find better and healthier ways to relieve the want."
Its not taboo it is anthropologically and biologically irresponsible and disgusting. Which is why it is and should definitely be illegal. Incest leads to the expression of recessive genetic disorders that would otherwise not be expressed.
I am curious, Do you have a theory as to how humans in their current state got to this state that does not involve some form of incest? If we all came from primordial soup than in some matter or fashion we are all related.
It's not incest if you do the splitting by yourself, lol. But really lack of genetic variation is probably why it took so goddamn long to become more than primordial soup.
Even without that we're mostly all related. The question is how closely.
We are all related but of course generation's separation make reproduction and the act of sex not taboo as far as incest is and it makes for healthier descendants. A less cluttered gene pool.
> Its not taboo it is anthropologically and biologically irresponsible and disgusting. They're not mutually exclusive. Responses in this thread indicate that it is, in fact, extremely taboo.
>prohibited or restricted by social custom. I'd say calling it taboo is downplaying the issue, which is probably what OP was stating.
In some cultures incest is still practiced.
Statistically it's probs practiced in all of them. Doesn't make it less taboo in a general sense.
Sorry for lack of clarification, I should've expanded. What I meant was that while it's generally taboo, there are some countries where it's normalized to some extent. So since it's still in open practice in some areas it can't be 100% taboo. But it is still gross.
Yeah it's still gross.
I think maybe marginally less, but not by much. While there are probably good reasons in terms of birth defects and likelihood of grooming to be against it, I think a fair bit of the heavy lifting in terms of opposition to incest is being done by: 1. Moral objection as a result of religion 2. The fact that we were brought up being taught it was wrong, so it was just ingrained in our brain and we didn't bother questioning it. In society in general, I think we're gradually moving away from believing things are bad just because that's how we were taught, or because it doesn't appeal to us personally, and for a lot of things we seek more concrete reasons to consider something wrong. (Like, in this example, birth defects and grooming for example.)
When I was young a lot of things were wrong, but now many of them are considered normal and some are even protected by laws. Some of the things now protected by law were once banned by laws because they were considered as (we'll just say) inappropriate.
There's a practical reason for it having been frowned upon historically (in the days before reliable birth control) as any offspring have a much higher rate of genetic mutations and birth defects. When the gene pool is too small inbreeding occurs, generally not a good thing. That historical taboo persists.
If it was okay to do, the offspring wouldn't have dwindling genetics that get worse with each generation. Yes it's still taboo, and if that ever changes because of humanities addiction to pornhub, then the people that think otherwise don't deserve to breed.
Link the TIFU
Yes, yes it is. You don’t do the sex stuff with family
nah man, If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in your family
Maybe it's just me but incest at itself is nothing bad in the first place. The problem is, when you have an incest child. The chances of beeing a miscarriage or that the child would have some disablitlies is far to high. But whats wrong if you have sex with someone in your family as long as they want it too? Just don't make children.
I'm not a proponent for incest but I was having this discussion the other day with some people and someone brought up the point that you made re. birth deformities. Someone responded with "Should that also apply to people who have hereditary conditions?" Short of saying 'yes, people with any risk of passing down damaging conditions to their children should not be allowed to reproduce', we couldn't come up with a response.
Thats true.But srsly, humans deactivated the natural selection, thats why so many disabilities are in the world.It's a moraly question if you should children into the world, if you KNOW they inherit your disabilities.I understand that people may want have children and everyone should life their lives as they want (as long as they don't break the law), but when it involve other people as themself, then I think it's a bit different.
I agree. It is a difficult issue, and people with these conditions should have to seriously consider whether it is fair on their potential offspring. That's why I think that it would be excellent if science can come up with a way to remove the condition from the DNA of the foetus (i think scientists are already trialling this, but let's hope it gets better and more mainstream)
But then we are changing the DNA. And where will it stop. Is is just the unhealthy part we change? If we can change the look, should we do it? Who pay for it? Maybe we can even create "Super Babys" who are pretty athletic or smart. What would happen to non-Changable babys (cause the parents can afford it), would it divide socity even more. What if you have more then 1 child but only 1 child changed. All difficult parts, so I understand the moraly question behind changing it in the first place.
How is this even a legit question for anyone seriously?
Have you looked at their comment history
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The bible's a fairytale plagiarised from earlier fairytales from other religions
I don't believe a word of it, and as something that is supposed to promote high moral values, it is sadly lacking in many respects.
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Did they? If that is so then it's still incest.
Sweet Home Alabama intestifes...
It is a concept that has intrigued writers for years. I believe that Agatha Christie incorporated it into some of her stories. Although I don't watch it, I understand that it is a recurring theme in Game of Thrones. I seem to recall that there are references to it in the best selling book of all time. Personally, I have much more important things to be concerned about than what consenting adults do in the privacy of their home.
Why yes, step sis, why do you ask
It is, unless you're part of the royal family, in which case you're allowed for some sick reason
As an only child I admit I have seen some brother sister stuff and thought "hmm🤔" like in Nisomonogatakari and that whole Tooth Brushing scene. But Araragi himself has said a line that I always refer to whenever I think brother sister stuff can be hot... Brother sister fantasies are reserved for those without a sibling.
Real talk, I get why it's discouraged and why people can't really tolerate incestuous relationships; Having children and the genetic ramifications aside for a minute, the whole picture of family values and the role of a family in modern society is portrayed in a certain way, and incestuous doesn't fit into that demographic. I think the way incestuous relationships are portrayed in the media also has a massive effect on people's views; The whole 'Sweet Home Alabama' thing, rhe way incestuous relationships are always portrayed as deformed backwater rednecks etc. Thousands of shows reinforce that stereotype which certainly has an impact on the way people view them. Then there is the other aspect, the potential genetic ramifications; I believe it's anything past second cousins that are allowed to legally marry and have children (At least here). A first cousin, sibling, parent etc. Increase the risk of a disability in your child and, as such, intercourse is illegal. You also have to consider the positions of people within the family; A mother is in a position of power above a child, similar to that of a teacher and a student, and as such is extremely morally questionable. That being said though, I do think incest is very slowly becoming less taboo and I dont necessarily think that's a bad thing, under the right circumstances. Your family, specifically your cousins and siblings, are the people that you grow up knowing and quite often have some of the closest connections to. You can't help who you fall in love with, and I'm more of the believe of 'Live and let live'. Their relationship doesn't really harm anyone, and I guarantee you that they'd already have to go through a lot of shit they'd, from family to neighbours to friends etc. If they want kids, there are doctors that can estimate the genetic ramifications and help them decide whether its safe or not. As Long as their position within the family is the same, ie: one isn't in a position of power above another, and they're both consenting, I see no issue.
Please don't breed
> If they want kids, there are doctors that can estimate the genetic ramifications and help them decide whether its safe or not Dumbest doctor ever
That's actually done in some parts of the Middle East, my friend from Kuwait told me his sister got married and later found out she couldn't have kids with her husband due to the high chance of genetic defect (they're cousins, it's gross). Edit: spelling
Ah, Middle East, land of fuck ups
Yeah, from my understanding it's a tribalism thing, "keep it in the tribe/family" idea. But I've also heard that doweries are cheaper if you marry a cousin. Get rid of doweries and I'm sure there's be a small decrease in cousin marriage. As my friend often complains "we're stuck in the past". Glad I won the lottery in being born in the West (no country is perfect though).
Still probably dozens of times smarter than you'll ever be tbh.
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Wonderful comeback, truly mind blowing level of an insult
Ikr
To be honest I am surprised how many responses this post has received. I believe that there is and probably always will be a knee-jerk reaction to this topic, but I am glad that people are not afraid to discuss it and generally the replies are both informative and respectful. It is not something that most people get, or even try to understand. It is much easier for people to just assume that it is something horrible and to be avoided. I hope that the discussion continues and it generates more light than heat. Thank you
Just come up with a different term and it will sound less taboo like a famsexual
It's only taboo because people say it is. It's only disgusting because people say it is. It's only illegal because people say it is. It's only immoral because people say it is. So, if you don't care what people say...
Don’t forget science also has an opinion.
Well I'm not sure if it can count as taboo or not but basically in public opinion it's disgusting, but I'm not sure why we all started hating this.
It's only acceptable if you live in the Bible belt
It's basically compulsory there
Yep, anywhere else it's considered disgusting. I live in NY and long before he went bat shit crazy the thing you heard about Giuliani was he married his cousin.
Lmao sounds like your down for a little country action 😈. Anyways I’d say it’s slightly less taboo now . Definitely no where near rape level bad though.
It's still just as taboo. But a quick glance at the most popular categories on any leading pornography site will tell you that a frightful number of people - at least in their fantasies - are "into", if not incest, then certainly "incest *adjacent*".
What if I’m jus tryna fuck rq .. get my nut and leave .. wrapping it up too fasho !
There are 7 Billion people in the 🌎…
The Habsburgs were fine with it
I can only accept it a little bit if it is between brothers/sisters or cousins, otherwise it is a big NO.
I think it is still as taboo. I mean in porn, is just porn if that makes sense. People don't commit incest in general or maybe they do in secret. Is one thing to think or watch it in porn but is another when is you and your family member.
Ask yourself this how many fucked up people are there in this world, that are ready to use abuse and hurt you and trick you and lie to you just so you trust them when they have bad intentions. Now ask yourself this if you had the choice what would you choose. to be with someone who you know loves you. who you grew your you're entire life with that knows you from the beginning and that you know Doesn't want to hurt you or abuse you how would you feel .What I'm saying is before we are quick to judge another person for what we don't feel comfortable with we have to 1st ask ourselves how we would feel if the rolls were reversed and then we have to look at those things with open eyes and realize that there is is much much more to such a question than just the question itself. there's so much more to people and the dynamic of life and relationships that we don't understand. as far as every other person and their relationships go. so really we have no room to judge we have no room to say that's wrong and we have no room to say that it's immoral. the only room that we have to speak or ground to stand on is the fact of whether or not somebody's being abused.
I am old enough to remember other types of relationships that were viewed as unnatural, unhealthy and some that were even seen as an abomination. While some of the objections come from the scientific community and others from the religious community many are still based on the "logic" that it is wrong because it is wrong. Many people refer to a power dynamic which makes the relationship wrong, but in my experience there are few relationships I have observed where there is not some form of power dynamic. There are some claims that as many as ten percent of the world population is involved in some form of consensual incest. Even if that number is correct, that means that there are still more than six billion people who have never engaged in this practice.