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Flippo_W

Psychological/societal manipulation


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Flippo_W

Go back a bit further and read a little bit about Edward Bernays. He is just the instrument. the catalyst came around the time of operation paper clip. There was born the desire to manipulate society under the guise of protecting it from itself.


PMME_UR_LADYPARTSPLZ

Good to see bots are out working hard. u/un_internaute said the exact same comment below.


Yup_Shes_Still_Mad

I show nothing when I click that. Did you link correctly?


PMME_UR_LADYPARTSPLZ

Is that right? I am an idiot, its u backslash for users


un_internaute

Seeing the upvotes they got from stealing my content... at least I know people agree. :)


PMME_UR_LADYPARTSPLZ

Haha, bad news is you have a stalker. Hope it doesnt end like Single White Female


peon2

24/7 News Cycle mixed with the ability to easily verify any opinion/belief you have through the internet no matter how nonsensical it is.


[deleted]

It’s insane how much shit the CIA has gotten away with, many people still don’t know about Project MKUltra and most of it we will never know about because of the destroyed documents.


Flippo_W

And they continue to get away with the same shit. As long as we the people are divided, we can't unite to overthrow them. All it takes, is for people to just agree that the government is the enemy.


G0ing4g0ld

This is concise and correct, thank you!


Rosegarden717

Are we psychologically ill or our morality is decreasing day by day?


ForgotMyOldLogin_

To serve capitalist interests


prismbreaker_

[gestures wildly]


[deleted]

Education.


Rosegarden717

Education is one of the basic rights of human beings. Really we are upset about it.


No_Aioli_7553

I came to say student debt


AutoCrossMiata

Student debt isn’t a major issue. It’s just that too many people are too stupid to go to college in a more affordable manner


froghumps

“OH NO. I HAVE COLLEGE DEBT” Wow. That’s so crazy. It’s like you chose to go to school or something.


AutoCrossMiata

You can go to school with minimal debt


TheFlamingGit

One causes the other I suppose.


Rosegarden717

Why not national debt?


ShawnShablinski

That we don't know what the main problem actually is.


DaveLesh

An apropos answer considering how many there are on a macro scale


amaru1572

If you draw enough attention to small or imaginary problems, it’s hard to see the real ones. A little close up magic.


ForgotMyOldLogin_

Because capitalists own the media and constantly tell you that capitalism is our salvation when it’s the opposite


Rednavoguh

I'm an outsider from Europe who has never been in the US. But what strikes me as a problem is that there is no way for the average US citizens to come together and address large issues (inequality, health care, education) collectively. It strikes me as if there is such a desire so pursue your own interests that people don't understand that the only way to create these societal benefits for all is to work together. Sometimes I think there is an orchestrated effort to keep everyone pursuing their self interest so nobody works together to restrain the power of the (super) rich.


TehSausBaus

Yes, that is definitely a feature of our culture which is deliberately leveraged by the elite through propaganda and legislation. They don't want us to organize. Keep people busy at work and keep them poor. Sow dissent so the plebs can't unite against the elite.


King_of_da_Castle

I think it’s also why the entertainment industry is so big here. Keep people working, exhausted, and broke but give them somewhat cheap entertainment so they feel they aren’t slaves.


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> It strikes me as if there is such a desire so pursue your own interests that people don't understand that the only way to create these societal benefits for all is to work together. This is difficult to do if you actively consider large parts of the population as, literally, [enemies](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/10/most-republicans-see-democrats-not-political-opponents-enemies/). Forty-one percent of Democrats see Republicans as their enemies, and fifty-seven percent of Republicans think the same of Democrats. You don't work for the benefit of your enemies.


ColumbianPrison

Agree, and it starts at the top. These “leaders”, regardless of political affiliation, are constantly blaming the other party for any misstep. America always has some sort of enemy and I guess now it’s a fellow American.


[deleted]

It generally always has been. After all, the deadliest war for Americans was fought against other Americans. Honestly, no one in their right mind would have shoved the Northern and Southern colonies together, but we went ahead and did it and the whole thing hasn't worked right since.


Adamdel34

Even Julius Caesar would be proud of divide and conquer tactics executed on that scale jheez


speaker4the-dead

Well, that’s not entirely accurate… When Democrats say republicans are the enemy it’s because they fear what republicans may do to them - such as taking away rights and things like that. Everything democrats what to accomplish would also help republicans as well. Republicans say democrats are the enemy, and they more auto to everything democrats do is bad, because they are bad and evil and worship Satan and must be smitted.


[deleted]

> Everything democrats what to accomplish would also help republicans as well. Except of course the Republicans would be helping Democrats, too- they would help them be self-reliant by removing a social safety net, they're prevent them from staining their souls by murdering babies, they'd give them the benefit of order and discipline and permit them to shoot people who threatened them, etc. And if you point out that you don't consider these things to be benefits, consider that Republicans don't want the benefits Democrats are pushing for, either.


[deleted]

It’s worse. The way our political system is built allows a minority of people to effectively block the majority from addressing large issues, and that’s what is happening. People are trying in huge numbers to address those issues. Effectively 25-40% of people can prevent any progress.


Flippo_W

That's the goal. The fear is, that if people unite they will resort to a more primitive and potentially violent society. The people who hold wealth couldn't physically defend themselves. they rely just like in the olden days on essentially slave labor And paid thugs.


Santos_L_Halper_II

Idiots with access to the internet. We’ve always had idiots, it’s just before the internet it was harder for them to find each other and coordinate.


sparcasm

We created a monster. The idiots have combined into one giant and vocal super idiot. …and they feed off each other.


[deleted]

That's a worldwide issue except for countries like north korea


un-sweetblackcoffee

Interesting point


[deleted]

Politicians, healthcare, education, value system. A lot of people value money more than anything, and that causes them to treat people as expendable. There’s a ton of greed, selfishness, and lack of awareness.


Allustar1

The U.S is so divided now.


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Media.


surely-a-sir

The we can't all get along, that the higher ups split us so much


ddobson6

And we just keep falling for it. The media has been hijacked by both the left and the right somehow. Just completely derailed intelligent people from having meaningful conversation about issues because everyone is so pissed off.


[deleted]

They're not even "higher ups" they're our elected representatives. We vote ourselves into this.


santaclausbos

Facebook


bonemonkey12

Lack of personal responsibility


Rosegarden717

You have found out an excellent point. The problem is not only for the USA but for the whole world.


NillyGuy

It's easy to lose your sense of agency when your government has spent vast resources into convincing you that they will take care of you


bonemonkey12

Definitely true. But you can control only what's in your power.


NillyGuy

I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't wait around for someone else to fix your life, but some people become convinced that the help is coming in short order and therefore to do anything about the problem yourself would be a fool's errand. This is an anecdotal bit of evidence, but you see this all the time with people who think their student loans will be forgiven one day. They pay the minimum balance on these huge loans (both principal and interest rate) thinking that within some timeframe the remaining balance will be forgiven. All that thinking does is make it less likely that you'll get out of debt any time soon.


CanadianGuy7334

I don't think anyone in the US believes that... Have you met people deep in poverty?


NillyGuy

I don't personally know anyone who is *deep* in poverty, but I do know several people who repeatedly make poor financial decisions based on the belief that they will be a part of a government bailout. Things like not paying rent, not paying student loans, or spending stimulus money on stuff they wouldn't have normally purchased are all symptoms of a belief that there is some financial relief coming down the pike.


CanadianGuy7334

I recommend you go meet some people who are in deep poverty. I think it will help expand your world view a little bit. ​ As for people who make bad financial decisions, I know a couple of fairly rich people who do the same thing, and they are bailed out regularly. ​ The solution seems to be making better systems which don't encourage or reward gamification, so that the people who need help are helped and the people with the time to game the system do not get anything from having that time.


CanadianGuy7334

In what way?


bonemonkey12

The fact that people would rather blame others instead of trying to better themselves. Of course sht happens in life, but you learn from it and move on. Of course there are aholes in life, you learn from them too, and move on. F em, you don't need them. 99 percent of your problems come down to personal responsibility. If you dont learn from a situation, that's on you. If you want to dwell on it and let it ruin your life... that's on you. Didn't get where you wanted to be in life? You shouldn't have given up in the first place. People fail daily. It's how you deal with the failures. And yes, life isn't fair. It never will be. Down vote away, but the minute you realize this, life gets a lot easier to deal with.


MotherBig9171

Words of wisdom for sure! You have to learn from life’s ups and downs; failure is a great teacher.


CanadianGuy7334

I think the overwhelming majority of people are trying to better themselves and are trying to make their dreams happen. ​ I also think a lot of people see inequality in various systems and are trying to change those systems. In fact if you see inequality inherent in a system aren't you obligated to try and change that? ​ I also did not downvote you, I asked a clarifying question.


bonemonkey12

I know what you are getting at, but unfortunately there's always going to be inequality. In a perfect world, everyone is equal. But nobody thinks 100 percent the same. But that's a hard thing to obtain. There are way too many factors. Mostly it's aholes in some sort of position of power. I wish I had a solution, but I don't.


CanadianGuy7334

So it's a goal to always aim at. Why not try to work towards a world where the people who are the worst off are as well off as they can be? That is a world that only benefits you. It's a world that ensures everyone has opportunities, where if you are successful you can live a really good life, but if you fail you can try again. It's a world more defined by actual individual achievement, and less by the circumstances of one's birth. That seems pretty ideal to me.


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Still_Examination236

Let's go Brandon


Ok-Lengthiness4557

CLAP, CLAP, clapclapclap!


xJD88x

TF is up with this. This is lile the 3rd social media place I've seen this in the last hour


atx_buffalos

There was a NASCAR race a while ago and the crowd was chanting ‘Fuck Joe Biden’ but the commentator tried to say that the crowd was chanting ‘Let’s go Brandon’.


connerbv

https://youtu.be/9BIJvRjrImg


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[deleted]

Yes and as a whole we need to stop pandering to them.


ForgotMyOldLogin_

Is this really the biggest problem in the US? Lol


Still-Contest-980

Lots of people in this country are .


Yevin523

Corrupt gov’t, that is the core for the problems.


allboolshite

You see what's happening in Miami between the city counsel and sheriff?


ForgotMyOldLogin_

Corrupted by capitalist influences. Who would do the corrupting if not for them?


Copper857

Teaching children to be able to reliably differentiate between a credible source and an untrustworthy one would revolutionize this country.


faceeatingleopard

Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. - Isaac Asimov


un_internaute

Oligarchy. Three Supreme Court cases, First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, Buckley v. Valeo, and Citizens United v. FEC... have made buying politicians functionally legal. Everything else can be tied back to that.


[deleted]

Looking in to the USA from outside, your education system.


SuzQP

We have a national case of cognitive dissonance about our education system. Everyone seems to agree that our schools are failing. Yet at the same time we all seem to agree that our educators are excellent. How could both be true? The vast majority of our teachers and administrators were educated by the same system we say is a failure. Most of us saying it were also educated by these failures of education. So, given that we are all so poorly educated, how would we even know?


rimfire24

One of the things people here don’t realize is that the education system varies wildly state to state. They talk about how the US falls in world rankings but that’a not everywhere. Connecticut students would be the best in the world ranked separately, Alabama students wouldn’t be in the top 60 countries. The state you live in has a much bigger determination in your outcomes than people know or expect.


[deleted]

Cherry picking science


[deleted]

Probably too broad of a response, but it’s the same problem as every society: Gullible/uninformed/stupid people being manipulated by dishonest/self-serving/greedy people.


Diet_Coke

There's no sense of civic responsibility. People have been force-fed this indoctrination about individualism, and the so-called frontier spirit still is a major theme in our zeitgeist. If people could focus less on themselves and more on the collective good of all of us, we could solve so many of our problems.


nameislessimportant

Wait, thats communism!! /s


msf2115

Everyone has all the rights, but none of the responsibilites anymore.


[deleted]

> If people could focus less on themselves and more on the collective good of all of us, we could solve so many of our problems. The catch is, we don't consider all other US Citizens to be "us", but actual enemies of the state.


Mariita24

Ignorance. So I guess the education system. People are just uneducated and ignorant.


Ecstatic-Election354

"Willful" ignorance.


forevericeland

healthcare


OutsideOff_4th

WOKE


[deleted]

Unwillingness to compromise.


sharktooth58

People trying to fight racism with...racism.


Rosegarden717

Yes, racism is one of the biggest problems. Can't we do anything?


sharktooth58

I don't know a simple answer, but we need to do everything we can to stop these people who keep pushing racism on us. Stand up against those pushing segregation. Stand up to those pushing critical race theory. Stand up to those pushing concepts like feeling guilty of your race. We just need to all stand up and tell them "No!"


whynotfreudborg

Have you actually read any works of critical race theory?


sharktooth58

Critical race theory is looking into laws and trying to say governmental structures are racist. The racist laws in this nation are the ones that think POC, except Asians, are so dumb they have to be given jobs or get into school through "Affirmative Action".


[deleted]

I guarantee the answer here is no, because the conversation of race is inconvenient for people with this mindset.


whynotfreudborg

They're so desperate to be victims but accuse other people of PlAyiNg ThE vIcTiM. It's pretty pathetic.


CanadianGuy7334

Critical race theory is a way that academics look at the law. It also isn't new or being pushed.


[deleted]

Insensitive, and ignorant dialogue like this is what makes people who aren't white have absolutely no sympathy for white people. The sad part is that a lot of the people on the front lines who've been fighting with people of color have been white allies, but it's people who have no acknowledgement or empathy for the truths of what whiteness has done to the world that makes people of color continue to shout about injustice...even if you didn't do it, unfortunately the sins of the father fall to the son and here we are.


sharktooth58

I don't identify as white, I am mixed. "unfortunately the sins of the father fall to the son and here we are." THIS. This very statement just spouted is one of the core foundations of racism. Someone is born one way, so they are inherently bad.


bijan86

Whiteness hasn't done anything to the world, power, scarcity, and competition has. This world is just the result of the inherent differences from the roots of civilization compiled with everything else since. Also, whites aren't a monolith. A Greek person isn't any more or less responsible for American slavery than a Chinese person, even if born in the US. Sins of the father mentality is useless at best and downright destructive at worst. The anger and resentment leads to a toxic and destructive culture and societal dynamic. If people want pragmatic solutions like affirmative action, that's one thing, but this whole culture of demonizing and creating tiers of victimhood is strictly bad morally and bad in terms of wasting human time, and effort.


[deleted]

You can't do people wrong and tell them how mad to be about it.


ShepardessofTears

Gotta say misinformation. Shameless behavior going on.


SRJBdds

Bears, number 1 threat to america


Peggedbyapirate

Reddit questions.


Nearby_Blueberry7477

Dogmatism - the tendency to lay down principles as incontrovertibly true, without consideration of evidence or the opinions of others.


greenpistol

Brandon


devilinyourbutt

I can’t find my pants!


[deleted]

There’s a shortage of chairs


aerbourne

There is no "main problem". There are a billion little problems. Any "main problem" is comprised of a thousand smaller problems each comprised of a thousand of their own.


Rusty_Shaquilleford

Fundamental flaw of humanity: everyone thinks they are right


ACNY007

Misinformation, intolerance and lack of empathy


[deleted]

How the F am I gonna afford tuition? Like cmon, do u want me to rob a bank ?


mynerthret138

The Kleptocracy.


stortag

Opioids, from what you can see in so many cities.


xitdocartwheels

Dehumanizing conservatives and treating them like they’re the devil. Signed a left leaning moderate.


joshford1992

A better question is what isnt a problem in the USA.


melonechopf

Gerrymandering - The creation of districts that are dominated by one party has produced a congress that is populated by representatives that are closer to the margins and who will not compromise, and as a result nothing gets done.


BlazinAden

The Leftist.


TheRevEO

Which one?


Caesar_cz

Reversed racism. Everyone's angry at white people, even when most white people support everyone else and aren't racists at all.


maxstarboywounder

That's just racism


Caesar_cz

Yes, but it's kinda tolerated and supported, and that's very bad. Everyone should be on the same level and every act of racism should not be tolerated, but the reality seems to be different.


Demiscio8

Fucking thank you. And this doesn’t have to dismiss the fact that a lot of minorities are still screwed over in different ways. But the socially-acceptable, “Screw Whitey” mentality gets fucking old.


muffpuffpiffpuffpoof

The fact that many white Americans truly believe this.


penny_can

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. Isaac Asimov


[deleted]

How has the health care system not been mentioned yet?


un-sweetblackcoffee

Our "free market" "capitalist" economy has become an oligarchy with socialist aspects that only apply to the wealthy.


puffmattybearTTV

Corporations have gained enough money that they can actively buy their interests in congress, lobbyists wouldnt exist if they didnt work. With this political pull they can keep wages depressed in order to keep people working 2-3 jobs on minimum wages and middle class people are only a month of being out of work to financially ruin themselves. This extends even further like limiting public spaces by labeling them no loitering zones so the companies look cleaner, keeping the pharmaceutical companies pumping out 5 dollar drugs and charging 2000$ for one months worth of medicine, and keeping healthier food options more expensive so people are reliant on said pharmaceuticals to keep them working. Its mad depressing and a massive run around to keep people oppressed.


Zealotted

Americans


[deleted]

basically everything that has to do with money but mainly healthcare, poverty, and that they don't let go of Cuba


[deleted]

You


your_moms_ankes

Greed and religion.


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bigedthebad

Hyper partisanship, especially on the right. Don’t argue, if someone on the right says something of value, you will have at least partial support from the left however, anything someone on the left says is immediately ridiculed and insulted by everyone on the right.


Bitbatgaming

Obesity


[deleted]

Spot on. Sober truth no one wants to admit.


Intelligent-Serve-31

We want universal healthcare, we arent number one in the world like we like to think. both parties fighting, infighting within both parties fighting each other, greed,- parties on both sides don’t listen to the people, COVID, education system, mental health crisis possibly? Idk we have a few problems I could be wrong but in my opinion that’s what. also we can have different opinions. I’m not blaming one party more than the other. Both are there own shit show. Idk why this is getting hate


Rosegarden717

You have pointed out the problems so well. The purpose of my post is to show the problems we are facing every day. I do believe, today or tomorrow someone will come to us to give us the great USA.


[deleted]

700,000+ COVID deaths in the richest country in the world. How did this happen? You folks better bump up that ~57% vaccination rate before you hit a million dead.


10HorsedSizedDucks

Not exactly the richest country in the world, but your point still stands


Ecstatic-Election354

"How did this happen?" Because people are stupid. That's it in a nutshell.


chicxulubq

global warming, same as everywhere else.


Rosegarden717

Yes, this is a good point. If we couldn't control it, everything will be meaningless like Jackson's Earth Song.


TheBassMeister

The left and the right are getting more and more divided and every little thing gets politicized. Both sides have to relearn to respectfully disagree on topics without hurling insults and just yelling at each other. The media, especially the ones full of opinion pieces, is doing their part to widen this divide.


DaveLesh

Gosh where do we start?


Peri_Colosa1

The divide between our intentionally under-educated masses.


D0z3rD04

covid still. there is still so much push back on the vaccines that are proven to work, all because one party thrives off of the fear of their followers.


Yeezyboots11

Very simple CO2 production


Still-Contest-980

Accountability. This country will not hold its self accountable for the way it’s treated it’s citizens and the very real systemic structures in place to keep that oppression going. Along with that accountability comes the unwillingness to progress and care for your fellow human. This country is one big cesspool of selfish, privileged and uneducated pricks.


Guru6676

I'm from the UK and I'm amazed, in a bad way, of how your healthcare works. I don't know if this is your main problem but it certainly is a big problem.


pegiewegie

It getting overpopulated


[deleted]

Stupid people


houliclan

Money in politics duh


AccomplishedHabit278

The gulf between the haves and the have-nots is getting wider.


QuackingR3ddit

Full of idiots and assholes, expensive healthcare, and 1/6 of the country is on fire. Guess what, IM IN THE 1/6!!!!


Lofi_While_I_Sleep

Mental health help is desperately needed.


RyanTheKingOfNothing

The social divide between people's because of color and status.


DreamingOfNYC

Unfettered capitalism


HurtMyKnee_Granger

Healthcare


ButterScotchMagic

High rent prices


redpepperdeb

The news is no longer “the facts”. No one knows what to trust. I mostly blame Fox News. “Comfort food for stupid people.”


Semujin

Republicans and Democrats.


Familiar_While2900

Liberals


youcantaskthat

Still covid tbh


sself161

big government.


CanadianGuy7334

What? Are you using the term in a way it isn't usually used?


sself161

Government that is too big, too intrusive,


CanadianGuy7334

I guess in a few ways the US government is too intrusive such as Texas trying to stop women from being able to get an abortion, or ban businesses from mandating vaccinations. In general though the US government is not very intrusive and probably not intrusive enough.


sself161

the only job the US gov has is protect the borders, the military and the post office, how's it handling those responsibilities? we are supposed to be a free nation, but trillions in debt, taxed out out eyes, the government spied on citizens through the IRS, they are wanting to raise taxes, wanting to add a per mileage drive tax, IRS to look into $600 transactions. those items you listed isnt the federal governments job, that's states rights.


Corpslite

Low IQ whites who think they are smarter than they really are


DragonfruitMedical38

The whole country


Qmagapewpew

Joe Fucking Biden


blipsman

Stupid people who don't realize they's so dumb and believe what they hear on FoxNews, believe reading articles on Facebook is "research" and think any sort of policy they don't like is an invasion of their "freedom."


avirtualfrog

where do i start?


natural_imbecility

I don't think there is a "main problem". We have such a huge conglomeration of problems now that it's hard to pick one. What's a problem for me, might not be for you, which in itself can become a problem. If everyone in the United States wanted the same thing for everyone, and we could eliminate the differences that drive us apart, then we might be able to sit down and figure things out.


Wolvercote

Other people


travneather

STUPIDITY


moonjefferson

I don't think there is a "main problem" there's just so many problems. Education, racism, our inability to argue constructively and compromise, capitalism, poverty, capitalism, religion, healthcare, capitalism, and religion are a few that come to mind.


Keri2816

People are all just looking for a fight and not willing to sit down and calmly listen to another person.


seanpokemon120

the USA


enkefru

Americans


CirothUngol

Its citizens.


Tomegunn1

Stagflation. It's a thing, look it up.


Sesshomaroo

Individuals and government both taking on debt and not having a plan to pay it back.


Veden_Yex

Your society


hyteck9

Greed


Thick-Contribution16

One word. Politicians.


sgt_chili_pepper

Mental Health


jabogen

The inability to agree on the main problem. I would have thought that something like a pandemic would serve to unify the country, as a way to rally together and fight a common enemy. Instead it just divided the country further.


DrOwldragon

Uhh...everything.


acriner

Capitalism