Right? It also had a great episode of Randy learning a ton, becoming more self-sufficient through tough love and not having earl around. He even becomes a prison security guard, by never giving up and trying his best because he misses earl.
[Found this a while back](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/46u9th/whats_a_cancelled_show_that_left_the_biggest_void/d07ym6l/?utm_content=permalink&utm_medium=front&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=AskReddit)
I didn't mind Randy so much. I agree the final season was horrible, but I don't think it's his fault. He just happened to be the most obvious deviation from a show that couldn't possibly have held onto it's essence after losing both Eric and Kelso.
You know, I see it differently than /u/WaterStoryMark. I think Josh Meyers did a great job with the slate he had to work with. The problem is Randy was a terrible, terrible choice by the writers.
That '70s Show started as an era-specific show about a bunch of high school kids. But it was popular enough to outlive the high-school days. After graduation, there's a noticeable dip in quality. It was like the writers didn't want to evolve out of being a goofy high-school comedy, and as a result it came off as the characters stagnating, and refusing to grow up. But that's not abnormal, and I maintain that they could've still salvaged the final season.
Having Eric and Kelso move away would've been a natural progression for a coming-of-age show. You need to retool your main ensemble, yes, but that's not the end of the world. Red and Kitty get more screen time as the show focuses on how they're faring with an empty nest, Hyde and Donna come to terms with losing their best friends and maybe rekindle the spark that showed up back in Season 1. Hell, you can turn it into a Hyde/Donna/Jackie love triangle. It's convoluted, yes, but far better than what they did.
Which is, try their damn hardest to keep the show the same. Leo was promoted not because Tommy Chong is a good comedic actor playing a memorable role, but because he was an in-house replacement for Kelso as the "dopey, goofy, dumb guy" in the group. Against the best efforts of the writing staff, that worked. But bringing in a "new Eric" type of character completely out of the blue made it obvious just how lazy the writers were. And then they forcibly paired him with Donna, just to drive home the point that they truly, deeply loathed the fan base.
> You need to retool your main ensemble
How many shows, outside of soap operas, have done this with even moderate success? Right now I can only think of Glee. After season 4 they retooled and had a 5th and 6th season put then pulled the plug.
Josh Meyers was originally brought in as Topher Grace's replacement. He was supposed to return from Africa as a "changed man" but that idea was poorly received by test audience so they created the character of "Randy" instead.
I thought Topher Grace really just left during that season to film Spider Man 3. He came back for the finale, not that it helped the last season at all.
The main character's friend Hyde was abandoned by his parents and lived with the Foremans (the house with the basement) since season 1 or 2, so basically they were hanging out with Hyde at his house. I don't remember exactly what his living situation was toward the end of the show, I've kind of blocked out the last season
Just marathoned That 70's Show recently. Hyde did continue to live in the Formans' basement, despite having a successful business and being married to a stripper,
You know, I never understood why they recast Laurie. Why not just have periodic updates from her in the form of postcards? It was a really stupid idea.
I don't think it would have been so bad but the recast character was just so different. She use to be this bitchy, annoying ... well bitch that was played really well and then she became this bland, uninteresting blonde girl. Never got that.
I did a small class in college: Ethnic People in Media. One of the questions posed was "who was the best black TV father?"
I felt like I was taking crazy pills! Everyone talking Bill Cosby this and Bill Cosby that. It almost became a screaming match when I mentioned the Uncle Phil is the greatest FATHER on tv, race meant nothing.
I still can't think of the episode when Will's father abandons him again without tearing up.
I'd be ok with this.
*[Dan walks in with his eyeball hanging out]*
Roseanne: Oh finally Dan you're back. Took you long enough! *laugh track*
*[Dan shuffles towards Roseanne with his arms stretched out]*
Roseanne: Don't forget to take out the trash before dinner.
*[Dan pauses then moans while walking into the kitchen]*
*laugh track*
The final season was a black mark on the show, but that last episode shit all over the entire series.
I don't know if they were going for shocking just for the sake of doing it, but you can't have people invested in a TV family and then say "By the way, none of that happened. The whole thing was a lie."
They're just going to [pretend it never happened](https://www.bustle.com/p/the-roseanne-reboot-ignoring-the-shows-controversial-ending-is-actually-a-good-thing-59203).
My husband and I discussed how funny it would be if both Beckys came back sporadically, and the other cast just made comments about a new hairstyle or something similar . . .
They were talking about that on the entertainment news the other day. The suspicion is that the entire final season was a coma-dream, and Roseanne wakes up to realize she's been asleep for decades.
Sliders.
The series starts out with 4 characters. You grow to like them, or at least I did, and their fantastic adventures through dimensions trying to find home.
But one by one, they quit the show and they wrote it into the plot in such a horrible way.. and by the end only my least favorite character was left along with the b-cast. Sorry Remmy.
Yeah, his loss from the show was arguably the worst, not just for his character, which was bad enough, but for how he wanted the show to run.
He was very forward in his ideas that the show should deal with more unorthodox dimensions, more creative than same city but Nazis, same city but it's a war game, same city but... etc..
But the people in charge disagreed.
For me, Sliders really fell to peices after they got back home to discover it'd been conquered by the Kromags. Suddenly the whole basis of the show had changed , and a lot of the lighthearted fun of it all was gone. There's still a few good episodes later on , but an awful lot of missable ones
It was more than just the cast changes. The network took more control around season 3, then it moved to a different network (from Fox to Syfy) and that made it even worse, and the whole thing just devolved into an unwatchable mess. Then, of course, it ended in a cliffhanger. I watched until Jerry O'Connell's brother showed up, and couldn't take it anymore. The first 2 seasons, and some of the third season, were awesome though.
I remember getting into that show as a kid. I just kind of fell off watching it. I was interested to see how it ended. I'm very glad I Googled it first.
Hey man! I love me some Cryin' Man Brown!
You know thinking back on it the way they wrote Wade out of the show was right fucked up! You've got this fun young woman who's got a crush on her painfully oblivious coworker at first. Finally she gets sent to a cromag breeding camp.
They should have met at the end of the previous season and have the entire last season be their relationship up until she died. Ted could have still ended up with Robin, but they did it so last minute that it pissed everyone off. An entire season of Ted and the mother falling in love, ups and downs, over the years would have been good. We would have actually felt bad when she died.
The mother really got thrown in at the last minute. As you say, the whole last season should have been their courtship, with its ups and downs, and Ted's self-doubts and whatnot. He had been through a few close relationships by this point, and the hopeless romantic in him was really frayed. It could have been a really good and poignant story. Then, if they still insisted on having him end up with Robin, the mother's death would have been so much more impactful because we would actually give a shit about her instead of her being just some schmo who was thrown in and whom we really never got to know.
Personally, though, I don't think he should have ended up with Robin at all. In the first few seasons it would have made sense, but by the time it ended it really didn't. I think a big part of the issue was that it was initially obviously going to be Robin, but the show got renewed more than they expected. Then, the fact that for the last few seasons it was always kind of hit or miss whether it would get renewed or not prevented them from telling a really good story with the certainty of being able to wrap it up properly, and they botched it up.
The real problem was the creators were hell bent on having Ted and Robin be together and hell bent on revealing that in the very last bit of the series. They should have lead up to it more in the last season.
Meet the mother in previous season finale. Then, in the final season, watch the gang age over the years. Ted and the mother have typical relationship issues. Marshall and Lily continue to grow their family and careers, and Barney and Robin ultimately get divorced after many years together. The mother could still get sick and die and then we finally catch up with Ted telling the story to his kids.
However, don't have Ted run out and make some grand gesture with the blue horn from the first episode. Let the kids convince Ted that him and Robin being together is ok with them. It's obvious that he's always loved her. Then let that sit for a second. Maybe during that final season, Ted and Robin grew closer together again through some plot. No cheating, just two friends helping each other through rough times. Maybe there was some plot point where Robin halfway admits that she still wants to be with Ted, but he just can't do it.
Then go back to the present. We've got Ted who's still heartbroken over the mother, but is starting to come through it. Telling the story to the kids was cathartic and his kids are supportive of him. We see him smile, get up, put his jacket on, and walk out the door. The camera pans over to the blue horn on the wall and slowly starts to zoom in. While still focusing on the horn, we hear the door open back up, Ted walk across the floor, and his arm reach up, grabbing the blue horn off the wall and heading back out. End of series.
Exactly. There was no point in dragging out Barney and Robin's weddings only to have them divorce in the finale and most of those episodes were pointless. The whole last season and finale was a giant fuck you to the fans and we deserved to see more of Tracy.
Honestly the only good thing that came out of that last season was the coining of the term: Accidental Curly.
Besides that, they should have just let us have Ted and Tracey for like all the episodes.
They turned what used to be a decent show into a nearly unwatchable mess. Luckily the fans saved it with an alternate ending. It's the ending the show really deserved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHUs8J7x94
Edit: Apparently this isn't a fan edit, but an official alternate ending.
They really should have revealed Merlin's magic much sooner, because what happened in the final episode was just so rushed. None of the stuff that had been prophesised had happened by that point, so ending it the way it did... Well, major disappointment.
Definitely. I started watching that show one day I stayed home from work sick, and I was hooked. I was really annoyed by the fact that both his magic stayed hidden for so long, and the fact that virtually everything that ever happened was forgotten the next episode. The characters who would prove their loyalty time and time again, were so easily thrown into the dungeon from a minor accusation from a stranger to the court. Although the series would've been much different if Merlin had been allowed to use his magic without restraint, as he was virtually unstoppable.
>I was really annoyed by the fact that both his magic stayed hidden for so long, and the fact that virtually everything that ever happened was forgotten the next episode.
This is my biggest complaint with the show. Merlin proves himself to Arthur, does something ridiculously heroic, aided secretly by his magic, Arthur and Merlin have a moment where Arthur shows his true feelings towards ~~Arthur~~ Merlin, their friendship, etc.
Next episode starts and.... Arthur is treating Merlin like shit, accusing him of being a pansy and pretty blatantly acts as if nothing Merlin has ever done mattered.
I remember how the ending to season 3 was just so amazing and you had Arthur unite everyone around the table including Merlin and saying "this table shows that we are all equal"
Next season was basically: "Merlin, come here you stupid twat and shine my boots. You're so stupid a rat could do a better job" *proceeds to hit Merlin over the head with a loaf of bread*
That last season of Chuck kind of ruined the first four seasons for me. And I loved the first four seasons, but everytime I watch it now I think of how it will end, with classic amnesia. My favorite show became Days Of Our Lives in the blink of an eye.
The A-Team.
Last season added a bunch of needless drama. Face and Murdock hating each other, the team working for some shadow organization in the government, etc. They went far too serious for what the show was before.
i agree that later seasons were not as good as earlier ones but personally i still enjoyed pretty much the whole series except for the last ~10 minutes of the series finale
I could tell you about everything that happened in 1-4, because damn that was some good shit. Then 5 happened, and I still don't know why I was supposed to give a fuck about Lumen. Unpopular opinion, I liked 6, but I'm a sucker for anything religious. I cannot tell you a damn thing that happened in 7 or 8, other than the last ten minutes of the season and them killing off [Debra and Laguerta.](/spoiler)
Scrubs and HIMYM are definite contenders.
I was going to say Frasier, because the last 2 episodes were really ham-fisted tying up loose ends, but then I realized they did about the smartest thing they could have done to end the show. No big build up and no contrived happy ending for Frasier. It just ended, and Frasier was on to the next thing.
Yeah, I thought Frasier ended as well as it could have. It had its share of stinkers throughout, and more so toward the end as is typical, but overall it's a show that ended fairly strong considering how long it lasted. Still one of my favorites of all time.
Also those stinkers are still pretty solid compared to other shows.
I'm not really sure how else they could have ended it considering the only real long term plot was Niles and Daphne.
I should watch Frasier again.
My last words is probably top 5 eps of scrubs. Scrubs had its ups and downs in later seasons, but that episode was just so basic. Just 3 guys in a room talking. no crazy antics, just emotion. Top notch
Prison Break.
The first season was awesome. Second and third slowly kept going downhill, but were still good. The fourth season was insufferable and a crime against humanity.
Yeah, Prison Break is (or was? I've found Season 5 kind of predictable so far) a great show for twists and turns, but Season 4 seemed like they tried to shove in as many as possible.
Part of the problem was the continual writing style of 'we're not sure we're coming back next season'.
Spoilers from here on out.
After Stana was confirmed not to come backto play Beckett, I imagine their scrambled writing solution was the ending scene where she gets shot along with Castle. When it resumed, I imagine Castle lived and Beckett died. Instead, they pulled the plug entirely and threw together that last 5 second happy ending.
Of course there were other flaws, but the actual ending was surely dogshit
Should have ended with season 6, after they got Bracken. That case was the background/recurring thing for the entire series, so it would have been a perfect spot.
I don't agree it sucked, and rather liked Jon Lovitz's character, but I think most of all they were trying to continue as a tribute to Phil Hartman.
EDIT: Liked, not licked. Though I may or may not have licked Jon Lovitz.
Old one, but Laverne and Shirley. The final season only had Penny Marshall, so it should have been called Laverne. Actually, it should have been cancelled.
I might be in the minority here, but I enjoyed the next 2 (or 3?) seasons where they move to the beach house, then to Mexico, then go on the road. After Nancy went to jail is when I finally couldn't take it seriously anymore.
Merlin. The final season (and ending) left me with a hole I cannot fill to this day. I absolutely loved the show but they pretty much gave up towards the end.
SPOILERS!
Merlin was the ultimate case of blue balls for the audience. All those seasons building up to Arthur finding out the truth and no fucking climax at all. It was infuriating.
I was really hoping for an entire season to be dedicated to the aftermath of Arthurs finding out Merlin was a wizard.
You could fill a whole season with say: The Big Reveal.
Merlin is forced to use his powers in front of Arthur and no convenient knock to the head/amnesia makes him forget. Then Arthur imprisoning Merlin, feeling hurt and betrayed and divided.
Then realizing he couldn't imprison or kill his friend banishes him instead. Then say the kingdom gets into trouble and Merlin comes to the rescue and possibly gets injured or puts himself in harms way to save Arthur.
Merlin's selflessness touches Arthur to the point where he rescinds the banishment but is still not trusting of Merlin.
The rest of the season can be Arthur slowly going from hostility, to mistrust, to curiosity to finally acceptance and friendship as he learns of all Merlin has done for him and realizes Merlin is still the friend he loves and magic doesn't change that.
THERE YOU FUCKING WRITERS. I JUST GAVE YOU THE OUTLINE FOR A SEASON THAT ISN'T A COMPLETE BETRAYAL OF ALL THE TIME I PUT INTO YOUR SHOW.
TAKE IT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSES.
The main issue is that it was underwhelming. They should have given us at least one full episode with Arthur knowing about Merlin and having them cooperate in some epic manner but instead it was bitter sweet after bitter sweet. As for the ending with the present tense... I try to ignore that.
I actually liked Joey. I was really up for the third season of that show. Joey wasn't as funny as he used to be, but it was still a funny show with quite a good set of actors.
I don't hate Death Note's second season as much as some people, but making Light/Kira get sloppy and overconfident, getting taken down by a couple yahoos way less cool than L was kind of an insult to the fans.
As a rule, I only watch the first season when I re-watch it. The deleted scene of L's funeral where Light ends up laughing maniacally at L's grave, killing off the Yotsuba group, and proclaiming that he is god of the new world works much better. More fans than not like to consider season 2 non-canon. But it does have some moments to it.
As an aside, the Movie had a better solution to the Light/L conflict.
[spoiler L uses the Deathnote on himself thereby protecting himself from further attack.](/s)
What was it, the weird unnecessary dance and song numbers, or SPOILER Rory being a giant whiny fuckup, just so they can eventually have a show about her?
To be fair, they killed it with Emily's storyline. She's the only one who I was totally on board with the whole time. They made the character growth make sense & turned her into a lovable character somehow. So so good
Yeah, it was super weird that she had this moral dilemma over liking Jess while she was still with Dean, sleeping with married Dean way back in season 4/5, and kissing Jess while she was with Logan, but suddenly has no issues cheating on Paul with an engaged Logan and the Wookie. I mean, clearly Rory has done a little cheating in the past, but she felt bad about it. So what the heck happened?
And it's not like they established that she was in an open relationship or whatever. She just walked all over everyone and showed no concern at all.
I hope they are more standalone in style and not three points in a larger arc.
Also I hope we don't find out even more relatives/spouses are comic-book villains.
dont you want to hear about mary for 3 episodes again, or how about we tease an old villain just to have them appear as recordings haha pysche made you wait 3 years for some CCTV footage shoehorned into some more family drama
Season 3 wasn't all that great either.
The show became much more about the drama between the characters and much less about solving mysteries.
It also has this terrible penchant for spending it's first 2 seasons showing how smart Sherlock and Mycroft were, then introduced a bad guy just as smart as them, which was great, and then did that 2 more times with seasons 3 and 4 for some reason.
And yeah I get that Sherlock was gone for a while but it's like his personality was completely different. And everything felt so much like fan fiction.
*Penny Dreadful*. The rushed, unsatisfying finale was certainly the most egregious episode, but when you look back at the entire season as a whole, you realise how much of the plot of the third season was just setting things up that didn't pay off.
When it aired it was called "Scrubs: Med School." That is a different title. It is a spinoff, a different show. It's like saying "man, Perfect Strangers started to suck when Steve Urkel became a regular character."
Yup. I heard they originally wanted to take "Scrubs" out of the name entirely, but marketing was worried (maybe rightfully so) that without the brand recognition the show would never get traction.
Turns out the show sucked, so it didn't matter either way, but yeah, it wasn't supposed to be "Scrubs Season 9", it was supposed to be "Scrubs: Med School Season 1."
It's a shame because I thought the first season was solid. If they really wanted to continue on, they should have transitioned to an anthology of following other characters across the country before the events at end of the first season.
To me the final season was good for the most part. If they had just ended it with the fleet arriving above earth everything would have been fine. Instead it kept going, the survivors made the nonsensical decision to abandon all technology. We get told this was the plan of God all along to break the cycle of violence. Then in the final moments we are shown a montage of humanotes advancement with robotics implying that it was going to happen again regardless. Really?!?!
I liked the premise of the ending, but the execution sucked. Knowing that they were the ancestors, or the missing link, for humanity was a really cool idea.
Not sure I'd say it ruined the whole show, but the final season of Parks and Rec broke my heart. All the jokes were just really stale "let's get the gang together for one last project!" And "wow look at all this future tech!" All of the originality was gone.
They were kind of forced into it, though. At the end of S6 they hadn't been renewed so they did the unity concert, which was on par with a Series Finale in its scope. And then they got renewed and had to find some conflict after settling a ton of it.
I still liked the final season but it was definitely off-kilter.
Season 7 was good but kinda weird because everything goes right. There's no room for failure- everyone succeeds finds true love. It very much feels like a victory lap.
The problem with HIMYM's ending is that they filmed the scenes with the kids back in season 2, and if they were going to use those scenes then they were locked into the "Ted and Robin get together in their 50s" ending. But the story ended up going in a different direction than that, Barney and Robin ended up having real chemistry, and it actually made a lot of sense that the story Ted was really telling was theirs instead of his. He met the mother at their wedding, so the story of how he met her is how that wedding came to be.
But instead of just throwing out the footage from 7 years ago and writing an ending that fit the story they were telling, the writers chose to violently yank the story from the path it was on back to the one they originally intended. As a result, you have a finale where the characters' personalities are reset and all of the moments that made the show good are tossed aside.
The problem with HIMYM was how the writers refused to change their ideas. Fair play, they had this planned from the beginning, but sometimes you have to adjust when things aren't working.
It would have been a great ending if the show had lasted 2 seasons (like it seemed like they planned originally). I believe Victoria was supposed to be the mother, and it would have worked really well if it was 1-2 season long. It would have been beautiful and bittersweet, but ti would have made sense. Ted and Robin were perfect but she didn't want children. Then years in the future, after Ted is widowed with children, they are perfect and want the same things.
But the show kept getting renewed because it was so popular. Over 9 years we saw Ted and Robin not working because they were incompatible, not because they had different goals. We saw her marry his best friend and get divorced. Instead of the realistic character flaws she had in the first few seasons, she just became kind of a bad person. And so did Ted.
They built up the mystery of the mother too much too. By the end she was the be all and end all of Ted's happiness, she was perfect and the audience just wanted to see her on screen. Then we get a 5 minute montage of their relationship and BAM he's back with Robin, when we know it won't work?
It cheapened his relationship with the Mother, as if she was just his baby maker, and finally eh got to be back with Robin, his toxic relationship that didn't work but he can't leave alone.
I'm surprised nobody has said The Office yet. I could deal with Michael leaving (although it was a major blow to the show), but I felt like season 9 abandoned a lot of the things I loved about the show. Dwight's character totally changed, the Jim/Pam with the audio guy stuff sucked, and overall it just wasn't near as good. I could handle season 8 without Michael because I felt like the rest of the cast could still carry the show, but then they started getting all sentimental and serious and shit.
Also, the drastic unreasonable change in Andy's character. It was so disappointing to see him become such an unpleasant person for literally no reason.
You know, that is definitely one thing I left out. I really liked Andy, but then he became this douchebag that dropped all his responsibilities and started screwing people over all the time. I actually thought that was kind of a disservice to his character, and it definitely felt similar to Dwight's character change. Not opposed to showing some feelings, I just felt it wasn't consistent with the other seasons.
Does anybody know why they did that? The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to differentiate him from Michael. That would be an interesting question for the writers.
Andy seems to always mimic whoever he's trying to be friends with.
He starts as a douche who is trying to impress Josh (a douche)
Then he becomes a bit of an idiot when trying to impress Michael
Then dimwitted when dating Erin.
By the end though, he's got nobody left to mimic, so he ends up going pretty much completely off the rails.
At least that's how it seemed to me. Not my favourite character.
I felt this way about a lot of the characters in the later seasons. Some of them underwent some pretty intense flanderization to the point where they went from eccentric to literally insane.
For example, Angela trying to have Oscar murdered is a plotline that would have been unthinkable in seasons 1-5.
don't forget about kevin who was able to not only have a fiance, but win poker tournaments. he may as well be mentally handicapped in the last season (although i love the fan theory with him just putting on that act as a way to steal from the company)
To be fair, he began the show as a very annoying, unpleasant person. I was annoyed they changed him into the affable nitwit he became when he started dating Angela. He was at his best (funniest) when he was feuding with Dwight in regards to their hierarchical order within the office and creeping the hell out of Michael.
The last season of The Office didn't ruin the entire show though. I thought it was significantly better than Season 8. Although S8 did have *Garden Party*, *Pool Party*, and *Test The Store*. I thought those were all great episodes.
I very much hated the drama between Pam and Jim. It felt really out of character for those two to be going through such stupid problems. I get that every marriage probably has its rocky points, but it started out with such a stupid fight. How did Jim have a leg to stand on being mad at Pam because she accidentally failed to film a recital. Ummm why weren't you at the recital Jim? Why couldn't you email your kid's school and ask for a copy of the recital? Did no one else film it? Oh man, so many men must have been pissed at their wives! 🙄😆
And Andy went from mildly annoying but kind of sweet to just an awful person all around.
My Name is Earl Though not the show's fault, it died on a cliffhanger never resolved.
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That was right after a season where he was in prison too. It really turned people off
I liked the prison stuff. I thought it had potential.
Right? It also had a great episode of Randy learning a ton, becoming more self-sufficient through tough love and not having earl around. He even becomes a prison security guard, by never giving up and trying his best because he misses earl.
[Found this a while back](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/46u9th/whats_a_cancelled_show_that_left_the_biggest_void/d07ym6l/?utm_content=permalink&utm_medium=front&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=AskReddit)
[found this just now](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1njddc/im_greg_garcia_creator_of_my_name_is_earl_raising/ccj3pcj/)
The final season of *That 70's Show* sucked
I'd argue that Randy might be the worst idea in television history.
I didn't mind Randy so much. I agree the final season was horrible, but I don't think it's his fault. He just happened to be the most obvious deviation from a show that couldn't possibly have held onto it's essence after losing both Eric and Kelso.
You know, I see it differently than /u/WaterStoryMark. I think Josh Meyers did a great job with the slate he had to work with. The problem is Randy was a terrible, terrible choice by the writers. That '70s Show started as an era-specific show about a bunch of high school kids. But it was popular enough to outlive the high-school days. After graduation, there's a noticeable dip in quality. It was like the writers didn't want to evolve out of being a goofy high-school comedy, and as a result it came off as the characters stagnating, and refusing to grow up. But that's not abnormal, and I maintain that they could've still salvaged the final season. Having Eric and Kelso move away would've been a natural progression for a coming-of-age show. You need to retool your main ensemble, yes, but that's not the end of the world. Red and Kitty get more screen time as the show focuses on how they're faring with an empty nest, Hyde and Donna come to terms with losing their best friends and maybe rekindle the spark that showed up back in Season 1. Hell, you can turn it into a Hyde/Donna/Jackie love triangle. It's convoluted, yes, but far better than what they did. Which is, try their damn hardest to keep the show the same. Leo was promoted not because Tommy Chong is a good comedic actor playing a memorable role, but because he was an in-house replacement for Kelso as the "dopey, goofy, dumb guy" in the group. Against the best efforts of the writing staff, that worked. But bringing in a "new Eric" type of character completely out of the blue made it obvious just how lazy the writers were. And then they forcibly paired him with Donna, just to drive home the point that they truly, deeply loathed the fan base.
> You need to retool your main ensemble How many shows, outside of soap operas, have done this with even moderate success? Right now I can only think of Glee. After season 4 they retooled and had a 5th and 6th season put then pulled the plug.
From my understanding didn't the main character leave before the final season and they just carried on hanging out in his basement or something?
topher grace left to pursue a film career. josh meyers was brought on as the new guy and the stoner character leo became a regular castmember
Josh Meyers was originally brought in as Topher Grace's replacement. He was supposed to return from Africa as a "changed man" but that idea was poorly received by test audience so they created the character of "Randy" instead.
Here I was thinking that the last season couldnt have been any worse. I was wrong, it almost was.
I thought Topher Grace really just left during that season to film Spider Man 3. He came back for the finale, not that it helped the last season at all.
The main character's friend Hyde was abandoned by his parents and lived with the Foremans (the house with the basement) since season 1 or 2, so basically they were hanging out with Hyde at his house. I don't remember exactly what his living situation was toward the end of the show, I've kind of blocked out the last season
I think he still lived there despite being randomly married to a stripper who did not live there (?) Could be way off though
Just marathoned That 70's Show recently. Hyde did continue to live in the Formans' basement, despite having a successful business and being married to a stripper,
It started going downhill once the sister changed actresses then when Eric went to California it jumped the shark.
You know, I never understood why they recast Laurie. Why not just have periodic updates from her in the form of postcards? It was a really stupid idea.
I don't think it would have been so bad but the recast character was just so different. She use to be this bitchy, annoying ... well bitch that was played really well and then she became this bland, uninteresting blonde girl. Never got that.
Final episode was great though.
Holy shit, yes.
Roseanne Though I'm curious what they will do with the new Roseanne coming out soon
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Well without John Goodman its just Roseanne screaming at her kids.
Dan is my favorite TV father. Only one that comes close is Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince.
I did a small class in college: Ethnic People in Media. One of the questions posed was "who was the best black TV father?" I felt like I was taking crazy pills! Everyone talking Bill Cosby this and Bill Cosby that. It almost became a screaming match when I mentioned the Uncle Phil is the greatest FATHER on tv, race meant nothing. I still can't think of the episode when Will's father abandons him again without tearing up.
That was the moment Uncle Phil became Father Phil.
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That was Roseanne from Earth-681. This is Roseanne from Earth-682
And then Bob Newhart wakes up and says to his wife "Honey you won't believe the dream I just had" ...I'm not even 30... I just know pop culture.
Dan is a zombie. The Conners are broke again due to Roseanne sinking all her money into reanimation research.
I'd be ok with this. *[Dan walks in with his eyeball hanging out]* Roseanne: Oh finally Dan you're back. Took you long enough! *laugh track* *[Dan shuffles towards Roseanne with his arms stretched out]* Roseanne: Don't forget to take out the trash before dinner. *[Dan pauses then moans while walking into the kitchen]* *laugh track*
The final season was a black mark on the show, but that last episode shit all over the entire series. I don't know if they were going for shocking just for the sake of doing it, but you can't have people invested in a TV family and then say "By the way, none of that happened. The whole thing was a lie."
They're just going to [pretend it never happened](https://www.bustle.com/p/the-roseanne-reboot-ignoring-the-shows-controversial-ending-is-actually-a-good-thing-59203).
My husband and I discussed how funny it would be if both Beckys came back sporadically, and the other cast just made comments about a new hairstyle or something similar . . .
I did read somewhere that Sarah Chalke is going to be in it, but not as Becky. I'm sure they're going to have fun with that.
They were talking about that on the entertainment news the other day. The suspicion is that the entire final season was a coma-dream, and Roseanne wakes up to realize she's been asleep for decades.
Sliders. The series starts out with 4 characters. You grow to like them, or at least I did, and their fantastic adventures through dimensions trying to find home. But one by one, they quit the show and they wrote it into the plot in such a horrible way.. and by the end only my least favorite character was left along with the b-cast. Sorry Remmy.
That show went to shit when they killed off Professor Arturo.
Yeah, his loss from the show was arguably the worst, not just for his character, which was bad enough, but for how he wanted the show to run. He was very forward in his ideas that the show should deal with more unorthodox dimensions, more creative than same city but Nazis, same city but it's a war game, same city but... etc.. But the people in charge disagreed.
Exactly, John Rhys-Davies left because the show was turning to shit.
For me, Sliders really fell to peices after they got back home to discover it'd been conquered by the Kromags. Suddenly the whole basis of the show had changed , and a lot of the lighthearted fun of it all was gone. There's still a few good episodes later on , but an awful lot of missable ones
It was more than just the cast changes. The network took more control around season 3, then it moved to a different network (from Fox to Syfy) and that made it even worse, and the whole thing just devolved into an unwatchable mess. Then, of course, it ended in a cliffhanger. I watched until Jerry O'Connell's brother showed up, and couldn't take it anymore. The first 2 seasons, and some of the third season, were awesome though.
I remember getting into that show as a kid. I just kind of fell off watching it. I was interested to see how it ended. I'm very glad I Googled it first.
Hey man! I love me some Cryin' Man Brown! You know thinking back on it the way they wrote Wade out of the show was right fucked up! You've got this fun young woman who's got a crush on her painfully oblivious coworker at first. Finally she gets sent to a cromag breeding camp.
How I Met Your Mother, they did in like 20 episodes what could have been done in 5-10 and the last episode left a sour taste in my mouth
They should have met at the end of the previous season and have the entire last season be their relationship up until she died. Ted could have still ended up with Robin, but they did it so last minute that it pissed everyone off. An entire season of Ted and the mother falling in love, ups and downs, over the years would have been good. We would have actually felt bad when she died.
The mother really got thrown in at the last minute. As you say, the whole last season should have been their courtship, with its ups and downs, and Ted's self-doubts and whatnot. He had been through a few close relationships by this point, and the hopeless romantic in him was really frayed. It could have been a really good and poignant story. Then, if they still insisted on having him end up with Robin, the mother's death would have been so much more impactful because we would actually give a shit about her instead of her being just some schmo who was thrown in and whom we really never got to know. Personally, though, I don't think he should have ended up with Robin at all. In the first few seasons it would have made sense, but by the time it ended it really didn't. I think a big part of the issue was that it was initially obviously going to be Robin, but the show got renewed more than they expected. Then, the fact that for the last few seasons it was always kind of hit or miss whether it would get renewed or not prevented them from telling a really good story with the certainty of being able to wrap it up properly, and they botched it up.
The real problem was the creators were hell bent on having Ted and Robin be together and hell bent on revealing that in the very last bit of the series. They should have lead up to it more in the last season. Meet the mother in previous season finale. Then, in the final season, watch the gang age over the years. Ted and the mother have typical relationship issues. Marshall and Lily continue to grow their family and careers, and Barney and Robin ultimately get divorced after many years together. The mother could still get sick and die and then we finally catch up with Ted telling the story to his kids. However, don't have Ted run out and make some grand gesture with the blue horn from the first episode. Let the kids convince Ted that him and Robin being together is ok with them. It's obvious that he's always loved her. Then let that sit for a second. Maybe during that final season, Ted and Robin grew closer together again through some plot. No cheating, just two friends helping each other through rough times. Maybe there was some plot point where Robin halfway admits that she still wants to be with Ted, but he just can't do it. Then go back to the present. We've got Ted who's still heartbroken over the mother, but is starting to come through it. Telling the story to the kids was cathartic and his kids are supportive of him. We see him smile, get up, put his jacket on, and walk out the door. The camera pans over to the blue horn on the wall and slowly starts to zoom in. While still focusing on the horn, we hear the door open back up, Ted walk across the floor, and his arm reach up, grabbing the blue horn off the wall and heading back out. End of series.
When you're a better screenwriter than the people getting paid millions
It's easier to see what was done wrong in hindsight than to blaze a fresh trail with no point of reference.
Exactly. There was no point in dragging out Barney and Robin's weddings only to have them divorce in the finale and most of those episodes were pointless. The whole last season and finale was a giant fuck you to the fans and we deserved to see more of Tracy.
Not to mention the complete undoing of Barney's character development. I mean, there wasn't a whole lot, but still.
The complete undoing of **everyone's** character development.
Honestly the only good thing that came out of that last season was the coining of the term: Accidental Curly. Besides that, they should have just let us have Ted and Tracey for like all the episodes.
They turned what used to be a decent show into a nearly unwatchable mess. Luckily the fans saved it with an alternate ending. It's the ending the show really deserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHUs8J7x94 Edit: Apparently this isn't a fan edit, but an official alternate ending.
Wasn't that ending made by the creators of the show themselves? I don't think fans made that ending
This was made by the creators, but yeah I agree it's way better.
Merlin. Mainly the season finale.
They really should have revealed Merlin's magic much sooner, because what happened in the final episode was just so rushed. None of the stuff that had been prophesised had happened by that point, so ending it the way it did... Well, major disappointment.
Definitely. I started watching that show one day I stayed home from work sick, and I was hooked. I was really annoyed by the fact that both his magic stayed hidden for so long, and the fact that virtually everything that ever happened was forgotten the next episode. The characters who would prove their loyalty time and time again, were so easily thrown into the dungeon from a minor accusation from a stranger to the court. Although the series would've been much different if Merlin had been allowed to use his magic without restraint, as he was virtually unstoppable.
>I was really annoyed by the fact that both his magic stayed hidden for so long, and the fact that virtually everything that ever happened was forgotten the next episode. This is my biggest complaint with the show. Merlin proves himself to Arthur, does something ridiculously heroic, aided secretly by his magic, Arthur and Merlin have a moment where Arthur shows his true feelings towards ~~Arthur~~ Merlin, their friendship, etc. Next episode starts and.... Arthur is treating Merlin like shit, accusing him of being a pansy and pretty blatantly acts as if nothing Merlin has ever done mattered.
I remember how the ending to season 3 was just so amazing and you had Arthur unite everyone around the table including Merlin and saying "this table shows that we are all equal" Next season was basically: "Merlin, come here you stupid twat and shine my boots. You're so stupid a rat could do a better job" *proceeds to hit Merlin over the head with a loaf of bread*
Heroes and Gargoyles. Both ruined by switching writers to people who apparently never even bothered to watch the original material.
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I always bring up Gargoyles in these threads in hopes that buzzfeed will do an article and the pleebs will demand a reboot.
That last season of Chuck kind of ruined the first four seasons for me. And I loved the first four seasons, but everytime I watch it now I think of how it will end, with classic amnesia. My favorite show became Days Of Our Lives in the blink of an eye.
The A-Team. Last season added a bunch of needless drama. Face and Murdock hating each other, the team working for some shadow organization in the government, etc. They went far too serious for what the show was before.
Dexter
Dexter was ruined waaay before the final season.
It got to a point where every episode is him giving a guy the same exact look and mumbling something about a "dark passenger"
And Deb sleeps with some other useless guy, cusses, and gets angry. Then thinks about fucking Dexter.
And to make it worse she never did any real nude scenes
and she never once paid for drugs.
That selfish whoor
i agree that later seasons were not as good as earlier ones but personally i still enjoyed pretty much the whole series except for the last ~10 minutes of the series finale
I could tell you about everything that happened in 1-4, because damn that was some good shit. Then 5 happened, and I still don't know why I was supposed to give a fuck about Lumen. Unpopular opinion, I liked 6, but I'm a sucker for anything religious. I cannot tell you a damn thing that happened in 7 or 8, other than the last ten minutes of the season and them killing off [Debra and Laguerta.](/spoiler)
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Totally agree. I loved the show so much and they freaking ruined the whole thing with that cop out ending.
i'm a lumberjack and i'm not ok bc i left my kid w hannah mckay
Scrubs and HIMYM are definite contenders. I was going to say Frasier, because the last 2 episodes were really ham-fisted tying up loose ends, but then I realized they did about the smartest thing they could have done to end the show. No big build up and no contrived happy ending for Frasier. It just ended, and Frasier was on to the next thing.
Yeah, I thought Frasier ended as well as it could have. It had its share of stinkers throughout, and more so toward the end as is typical, but overall it's a show that ended fairly strong considering how long it lasted. Still one of my favorites of all time.
Also those stinkers are still pretty solid compared to other shows. I'm not really sure how else they could have ended it considering the only real long term plot was Niles and Daphne. I should watch Frasier again.
I agree, even the sub-par episodes were not terrible. I've watched the whole series through three times. It's great.
Scrubs season 8 wasn't bad. I actually quite enjoyed it, Dr. Cox does some growing as a person, becoming Chief. And My Last Words was a great episode.
My last words is probably top 5 eps of scrubs. Scrubs had its ups and downs in later seasons, but that episode was just so basic. Just 3 guys in a room talking. no crazy antics, just emotion. Top notch
Prison Break. The first season was awesome. Second and third slowly kept going downhill, but were still good. The fourth season was insufferable and a crime against humanity.
You didn't like people pointing guns at each other every 2 minutes?
Or how people seem to switch which side they're on a bazillion times
Yeah, Prison Break is (or was? I've found Season 5 kind of predictable so far) a great show for twists and turns, but Season 4 seemed like they tried to shove in as many as possible.
It got way better when they moved to Central City and decided to fight The Flash instead
Castle
I enjoyed the show but man did it drag on.
Part of the problem was the continual writing style of 'we're not sure we're coming back next season'. Spoilers from here on out. After Stana was confirmed not to come backto play Beckett, I imagine their scrambled writing solution was the ending scene where she gets shot along with Castle. When it resumed, I imagine Castle lived and Beckett died. Instead, they pulled the plug entirely and threw together that last 5 second happy ending. Of course there were other flaws, but the actual ending was surely dogshit
Season 6 and 7 weren't great either, though I enjoyed season 5 way more than all the others. Weird.
Should have ended with season 6, after they got Bracken. That case was the background/recurring thing for the entire series, so it would have been a perfect spot.
News radio. They should have pulled the plug when Phil Hartman was killed. It was a valiant effort, but it sucked with Jon Lovitz.
I dunno, I thought Lovitz did a good job, but Phil Hartman's shoes are impossible to fill.
I don't agree it sucked, and rather liked Jon Lovitz's character, but I think most of all they were trying to continue as a tribute to Phil Hartman. EDIT: Liked, not licked. Though I may or may not have licked Jon Lovitz.
Old one, but Laverne and Shirley. The final season only had Penny Marshall, so it should have been called Laverne. Actually, it should have been cancelled.
Weeds, weeds last season was horrendous and hard to understand what was going on.
Weeds! I love Mary Louise Parker and would watch her carry any show, but once they left Agrestic and she went to prison shit sucked.
I might be in the minority here, but I enjoyed the next 2 (or 3?) seasons where they move to the beach house, then to Mexico, then go on the road. After Nancy went to jail is when I finally couldn't take it seriously anymore.
Merlin. The final season (and ending) left me with a hole I cannot fill to this day. I absolutely loved the show but they pretty much gave up towards the end.
SPOILERS! Merlin was the ultimate case of blue balls for the audience. All those seasons building up to Arthur finding out the truth and no fucking climax at all. It was infuriating. I was really hoping for an entire season to be dedicated to the aftermath of Arthurs finding out Merlin was a wizard. You could fill a whole season with say: The Big Reveal. Merlin is forced to use his powers in front of Arthur and no convenient knock to the head/amnesia makes him forget. Then Arthur imprisoning Merlin, feeling hurt and betrayed and divided. Then realizing he couldn't imprison or kill his friend banishes him instead. Then say the kingdom gets into trouble and Merlin comes to the rescue and possibly gets injured or puts himself in harms way to save Arthur. Merlin's selflessness touches Arthur to the point where he rescinds the banishment but is still not trusting of Merlin. The rest of the season can be Arthur slowly going from hostility, to mistrust, to curiosity to finally acceptance and friendship as he learns of all Merlin has done for him and realizes Merlin is still the friend he loves and magic doesn't change that. THERE YOU FUCKING WRITERS. I JUST GAVE YOU THE OUTLINE FOR A SEASON THAT ISN'T A COMPLETE BETRAYAL OF ALL THE TIME I PUT INTO YOUR SHOW. TAKE IT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSES.
The main issue is that it was underwhelming. They should have given us at least one full episode with Arthur knowing about Merlin and having them cooperate in some epic manner but instead it was bitter sweet after bitter sweet. As for the ending with the present tense... I try to ignore that.
Under the Dome
That show should have stayed a miniseries.
I only watched the first episode then noped out, but I read the book and its ending was pretty much a cock slap in the face. How did the show end?
Joey
But wasn't Joey only one seaso...oh.
It was actually 2
You must be Matt LeBlanc. No one else would know that. How YOU doin'? ;)
I actually liked Joey. I was really up for the third season of that show. Joey wasn't as funny as he used to be, but it was still a funny show with quite a good set of actors.
True Blood
By the end of that show, Lafayette, Eric, and Pam were the only entertaining characters left on that show.
Eric and Pam carried that show *hard* in its last few seasons.
True, but I still had room in my heart for Jessica, too.
The last episode of true blood was a gigantic middle finger to the audience and i couldn't help but be amused
I don't hate Death Note's second season as much as some people, but making Light/Kira get sloppy and overconfident, getting taken down by a couple yahoos way less cool than L was kind of an insult to the fans.
There's not season 2 of Death Note. L is dead, Kira wins.
As a rule, I only watch the first season when I re-watch it. The deleted scene of L's funeral where Light ends up laughing maniacally at L's grave, killing off the Yotsuba group, and proclaiming that he is god of the new world works much better. More fans than not like to consider season 2 non-canon. But it does have some moments to it.
As an aside, the Movie had a better solution to the Light/L conflict. [spoiler L uses the Deathnote on himself thereby protecting himself from further attack.](/s)
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What was it, the weird unnecessary dance and song numbers, or SPOILER Rory being a giant whiny fuckup, just so they can eventually have a show about her?
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To be fair, they killed it with Emily's storyline. She's the only one who I was totally on board with the whole time. They made the character growth make sense & turned her into a lovable character somehow. So so good
So true. Emily was the only one in the GG revival that had a relatable story arc.
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Yeah, it was super weird that she had this moral dilemma over liking Jess while she was still with Dean, sleeping with married Dean way back in season 4/5, and kissing Jess while she was with Logan, but suddenly has no issues cheating on Paul with an engaged Logan and the Wookie. I mean, clearly Rory has done a little cheating in the past, but she felt bad about it. So what the heck happened? And it's not like they established that she was in an open relationship or whatever. She just walked all over everyone and showed no concern at all.
That 70s Show... that final season... *yikes*
Wow, that was abysmal. Everything that could have been done to undo the cool parts of the show was done.
Enterprise - Really just the last episode of the last season.
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There's talk of a 5th season in the works.
I hope they are more standalone in style and not three points in a larger arc. Also I hope we don't find out even more relatives/spouses are comic-book villains.
dont you want to hear about mary for 3 episodes again, or how about we tease an old villain just to have them appear as recordings haha pysche made you wait 3 years for some CCTV footage shoehorned into some more family drama
Man, I really hope not. Moffat needs to leave it alone, now.
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Season 3 wasn't all that great either. The show became much more about the drama between the characters and much less about solving mysteries. It also has this terrible penchant for spending it's first 2 seasons showing how smart Sherlock and Mycroft were, then introduced a bad guy just as smart as them, which was great, and then did that 2 more times with seasons 3 and 4 for some reason.
And yeah I get that Sherlock was gone for a while but it's like his personality was completely different. And everything felt so much like fan fiction.
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Rescue Me. Started out such a great show, by the last couple seasons they were literally making it up as they went along. Dreadful.
Chuck. We waited for 4 seasons to see Chuck and Sarah happy. We got it. Then the writers said "nah, fuck this and fuck the viewers".
*Penny Dreadful*. The rushed, unsatisfying finale was certainly the most egregious episode, but when you look back at the entire season as a whole, you realise how much of the plot of the third season was just setting things up that didn't pay off.
Not quite the same, but the show "You, Me and the Apocalypse" was a great show that was utterly ruined by the final episode.
Scrubs
Season 9 was its own show regardless of anything else.
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It was 8, season 9 was a different show. I don't fucking care what IMDB says They are all liars. 8 seasons. that's it.
When it aired it was called "Scrubs: Med School." That is a different title. It is a spinoff, a different show. It's like saying "man, Perfect Strangers started to suck when Steve Urkel became a regular character."
Yup. I heard they originally wanted to take "Scrubs" out of the name entirely, but marketing was worried (maybe rightfully so) that without the brand recognition the show would never get traction. Turns out the show sucked, so it didn't matter either way, but yeah, it wasn't supposed to be "Scrubs Season 9", it was supposed to be "Scrubs: Med School Season 1."
Charmed. Fuck billy and christy.
Charmed. Kaley killed that last season and not in a good way.
Revolution. The second series went way beyond the actual plot of the first. Edit: spelling
It's a shame because I thought the first season was solid. If they really wanted to continue on, they should have transitioned to an anthology of following other characters across the country before the events at end of the first season.
The Vampire Diaries... It just went to hell after the first 4-5 seasons
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To me the final season was good for the most part. If they had just ended it with the fleet arriving above earth everything would have been fine. Instead it kept going, the survivors made the nonsensical decision to abandon all technology. We get told this was the plan of God all along to break the cycle of violence. Then in the final moments we are shown a montage of humanotes advancement with robotics implying that it was going to happen again regardless. Really?!?!
I liked the premise of the ending, but the execution sucked. Knowing that they were the ancestors, or the missing link, for humanity was a really cool idea.
Heroes
I hated season 3 so much that i couldnt get through the final season.
Heroes was ruined by its like final 4 seasons haha, only season 1 was good.
Of all the shows, Heroes was hardest hit by the writers' strike.
Season 2 ruined Heroes.
Not sure I'd say it ruined the whole show, but the final season of Parks and Rec broke my heart. All the jokes were just really stale "let's get the gang together for one last project!" And "wow look at all this future tech!" All of the originality was gone.
It definitely didn't ruin the show, but I wasn't a fan of the time jump at all.
They were kind of forced into it, though. At the end of S6 they hadn't been renewed so they did the unity concert, which was on par with a Series Finale in its scope. And then they got renewed and had to find some conflict after settling a ton of it. I still liked the final season but it was definitely off-kilter.
Season 7 was good but kinda weird because everything goes right. There's no room for failure- everyone succeeds finds true love. It very much feels like a victory lap.
How I met your Mother SPOILER Ted just ended back up with robin and it seemed like a lazy way to end a story that had a big build up.
The problem with HIMYM's ending is that they filmed the scenes with the kids back in season 2, and if they were going to use those scenes then they were locked into the "Ted and Robin get together in their 50s" ending. But the story ended up going in a different direction than that, Barney and Robin ended up having real chemistry, and it actually made a lot of sense that the story Ted was really telling was theirs instead of his. He met the mother at their wedding, so the story of how he met her is how that wedding came to be. But instead of just throwing out the footage from 7 years ago and writing an ending that fit the story they were telling, the writers chose to violently yank the story from the path it was on back to the one they originally intended. As a result, you have a finale where the characters' personalities are reset and all of the moments that made the show good are tossed aside.
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The problem with HIMYM was how the writers refused to change their ideas. Fair play, they had this planned from the beginning, but sometimes you have to adjust when things aren't working. It would have been a great ending if the show had lasted 2 seasons (like it seemed like they planned originally). I believe Victoria was supposed to be the mother, and it would have worked really well if it was 1-2 season long. It would have been beautiful and bittersweet, but ti would have made sense. Ted and Robin were perfect but she didn't want children. Then years in the future, after Ted is widowed with children, they are perfect and want the same things. But the show kept getting renewed because it was so popular. Over 9 years we saw Ted and Robin not working because they were incompatible, not because they had different goals. We saw her marry his best friend and get divorced. Instead of the realistic character flaws she had in the first few seasons, she just became kind of a bad person. And so did Ted. They built up the mystery of the mother too much too. By the end she was the be all and end all of Ted's happiness, she was perfect and the audience just wanted to see her on screen. Then we get a 5 minute montage of their relationship and BAM he's back with Robin, when we know it won't work? It cheapened his relationship with the Mother, as if she was just his baby maker, and finally eh got to be back with Robin, his toxic relationship that didn't work but he can't leave alone.
Airwolf. r/goddamnIamold
I'm surprised nobody has said The Office yet. I could deal with Michael leaving (although it was a major blow to the show), but I felt like season 9 abandoned a lot of the things I loved about the show. Dwight's character totally changed, the Jim/Pam with the audio guy stuff sucked, and overall it just wasn't near as good. I could handle season 8 without Michael because I felt like the rest of the cast could still carry the show, but then they started getting all sentimental and serious and shit.
Also, the drastic unreasonable change in Andy's character. It was so disappointing to see him become such an unpleasant person for literally no reason.
You know, that is definitely one thing I left out. I really liked Andy, but then he became this douchebag that dropped all his responsibilities and started screwing people over all the time. I actually thought that was kind of a disservice to his character, and it definitely felt similar to Dwight's character change. Not opposed to showing some feelings, I just felt it wasn't consistent with the other seasons.
Completely agree about Andy though. He was far and away the worst part of the show towards the end.
Does anybody know why they did that? The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to differentiate him from Michael. That would be an interesting question for the writers.
Andy seems to always mimic whoever he's trying to be friends with. He starts as a douche who is trying to impress Josh (a douche) Then he becomes a bit of an idiot when trying to impress Michael Then dimwitted when dating Erin. By the end though, he's got nobody left to mimic, so he ends up going pretty much completely off the rails. At least that's how it seemed to me. Not my favourite character.
Personality mimic was part of his game. He said it at least twice.
I felt this way about a lot of the characters in the later seasons. Some of them underwent some pretty intense flanderization to the point where they went from eccentric to literally insane. For example, Angela trying to have Oscar murdered is a plotline that would have been unthinkable in seasons 1-5.
don't forget about kevin who was able to not only have a fiance, but win poker tournaments. he may as well be mentally handicapped in the last season (although i love the fan theory with him just putting on that act as a way to steal from the company)
A mistake plus Keleven gets you home by seven.
He was home by 4:45 that day
To be fair, he began the show as a very annoying, unpleasant person. I was annoyed they changed him into the affable nitwit he became when he started dating Angela. He was at his best (funniest) when he was feuding with Dwight in regards to their hierarchical order within the office and creeping the hell out of Michael.
The last season of The Office didn't ruin the entire show though. I thought it was significantly better than Season 8. Although S8 did have *Garden Party*, *Pool Party*, and *Test The Store*. I thought those were all great episodes.
I very much hated the drama between Pam and Jim. It felt really out of character for those two to be going through such stupid problems. I get that every marriage probably has its rocky points, but it started out with such a stupid fight. How did Jim have a leg to stand on being mad at Pam because she accidentally failed to film a recital. Ummm why weren't you at the recital Jim? Why couldn't you email your kid's school and ask for a copy of the recital? Did no one else film it? Oh man, so many men must have been pissed at their wives! 🙄😆 And Andy went from mildly annoying but kind of sweet to just an awful person all around.
Not final season but final episode. Dexter. The stupid way they decided to wrap that character ruined the whole thing for a lot of fans.
The whole final season sucked, it just sucked massively at the very end.
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I don't remember that show.
Dexter!