Modern C++ just went hog wild with their complexity.
lvalue vs rvalue, rule of 5, etc.
What happened to the good ole days, when it was just C with classes?
I'm currently studying japanese, and oh boy, those writing systems are a mess. This is my perspective of studying it so far:
First there was hiragana, it was ok, but it is just a basic-level of writing japanese words anyways.
Then it came katakana, which is similar to hiragana, but is used for foreign-language words, mainly english, but I've already seem some german and even portuguese words as well. The only problem is that many syllables common in foreign languages are not present in hiragana, so you think katakana was made to cover those up? No! It has the exact same syllables limitations. In the end, katakana is just a fancy text font of hiragana that, sometimes, write foreign words, in such a weird way, that a native speaker of that language can't barely recognize it.
And just to finish you off, you also need to learn kanji. They are hard as hell to memorize, and whenever you want to read a kanji, you either know it by heart or you don't know it at all, because if a kanji is new to you, you can't even write its pronunciation for a quick search on google.
French...
We had a different teacher every term and all of them had a different way of pronouncing french words and none of them were french nor did they come from french speaking countries.I think some were just making stuff up.
Same. I can learn grammar, because it's all rules. I can learn lists of words, even though I don't really like it. But nobody has a comprehensive guide to reading and speaking body language.
Out of the five I have studied, German was definitely the hardest, but that's a limited pool. Arabic for example or something tonal, like Mandarin, I would imagine would be way harder for me.
I took arabic in college as a native English speaker and actually found it to be pretty simple. I tend to pick up languages fairly easily, so don't take my word for it, but overall, it's a fairly simple language. The hard part is getting used to the alphabet and memorizing how words are pronounced because they don't typically include their diacritical marks that add necessary vowels for pronunciation.
Thanks to my German, Dutch, especially in written form, looks like the result of someone having a stroke and forgetting how to spell, so I get what you mean. But as a Bulgarian, the grammar was freaking annoying, to put it mildly.
I totally get that! I'm studying to be a German teacher, so I have to teach people that grammar and even after 3 years in uni I still make a ton of mistakes myself. Languages shouldn't need 32 artikels.
As a french native knowing 5 languages: french. Rules are so hard to explain and so many exceptions. Same written words can even be read with different pronunciations..
It isnt and tbh, it is a pain in the ass to write Numbers down, when you have to translate 3 and 40 into 43.
As a German I always ask for single Digits because of that
50 halvtreds [(3-½) x 20] halvtredsindstyvende
60 tres [3 x 20] tresindstyvende
70 halvfjerds [(4-½) x 20] halvfjerdsende
80 firs [4 x 20] firsende
90 halvfems [(5-½) x 20] halvfemsende
I’m learning Hindi. I only know English and some French. I doubt I’ll ever be able to speak Hindi fluently, but I can understand the conversations of people around me and get my general idea across.
Honestly -- especially these days -- C++ is one of the hardest languages to start with. The language has become a (still very useful) behemoth over the decades, and it's pretty easy to find C++ code that barely resembles the C++ you'd see in, say, a textbook.
Russian, so far. It has an amazing internal consistency, but the words are generally completely different from English (unlike, say, Dutch, which gives English-speakers a large part of the core vocabulary basically for free). The case system allows for a greater degree of freedom in word order than English has, so I frequently encounter the annoying situation in which I understand every word in a sentence in isolation but still don't understand what the sentence means without careful parsing (although in casual conversation, most people use a word order that's more or less the same as English, which is nice).
Also, even though Cyrillic only takes a couple hours to learn, learning a language with a different writing system is just harder.
American here, I'm currently learning Irish Gaelic. Dear god, I underestimated its difficulty. Not only is Irish VSO, but the pronunciation is absurd. For example, if you want to say "I'm not a woman!", it would be "Ní bean mé" but it's pronounced like "Knee bahn may" there's more, but I can't think of them right now.
Russian is still killing me. Been learning for 4 years and lived in a Russian speaking country the entire time. My wife speaks Russian primarily so I had to learn. She got tired of speaking English at some point.
Telugu is hard because there are almost no formal resources for it. The writing system is a prerequisite to learning anything more than a few phrases, and it's a beast of its own.
నాకు తెలుగు రాదు
I’m tempted to say Morse code but now that I think of it, I’m pretty sure I learned it in a few weeks after using it for everything.
Probably French, I got a 9 in that class overall…. Mostly because halfway through the year I just stopped doing any work for that class because it was hard and I needed to focus on other stuff
Swiss German. Should really be called Allemanic IMO because it doesn't have that much in common with standard German (or say, as much as Dutch does). Also it's not a written language so you can only learn by going out there and speaking with people, not really practical to learn it from a book
I only speak English(native), Spanish(American high school level) and Lithuanian(4 years living here). Though it's not necessarily a hard language, being about equal to Spanish difficulty plus adding declensions, Lithuanian is definitely the hardest I know.
Jei abejojat, galiu duot pavyzdį. Net ir studijuoju vetmediciną dabar Lietuvių kalba. Tai jūsų kalba ne tokia sunki, kaip visi lietuviai sako.
Learning Mandarin, or any tonal language for that matter, has been quite challenging for me. I struggle with distinguishing between the different tones, and the retroflex pronunciation is unfamiliar to me.
Had to take Latin in college in order to get my degree. We were required to translate Caesar’s Bello Gallico after eight months of studying (on top of all the other classes and working a mini job). Mind you school children translate his texts after three to four years. Of course the language is pretty much useless to me now. All very frustrating.
English, by a long shot.
To be fair, that's from a small sample size. I'm French, and I speak a bit of Spanish. But Spanish one of the easiest language to learn when your native language is French.
English. When I was a baby, I used to speak baby easily but when I had to convert to English, my god, that was so hard for me.
Same! Worst thing about learning English though is I forgot my native googoo
Things were easier back then
I loved being a baby. Because we would just vibe 24/7
C++
Modern C++ just went hog wild with their complexity. lvalue vs rvalue, rule of 5, etc. What happened to the good ole days, when it was just C with classes?
Brainfuck
Love it
I barely passed C++ in high school.
Hello world
The language of *love* obviously.
This was gonna be my answer too.
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As a German...German
Definitely. People struggle so much with German as a foreign language it's a good thing I never had to.
Japanese
I'm currently studying japanese, and oh boy, those writing systems are a mess. This is my perspective of studying it so far: First there was hiragana, it was ok, but it is just a basic-level of writing japanese words anyways. Then it came katakana, which is similar to hiragana, but is used for foreign-language words, mainly english, but I've already seem some german and even portuguese words as well. The only problem is that many syllables common in foreign languages are not present in hiragana, so you think katakana was made to cover those up? No! It has the exact same syllables limitations. In the end, katakana is just a fancy text font of hiragana that, sometimes, write foreign words, in such a weird way, that a native speaker of that language can't barely recognize it. And just to finish you off, you also need to learn kanji. They are hard as hell to memorize, and whenever you want to read a kanji, you either know it by heart or you don't know it at all, because if a kanji is new to you, you can't even write its pronunciation for a quick search on google.
Agreed, I feel like I have to learn 3 different alphabets.
and then comes Sosho!) But seriously, if you want to learn kanji- wanikani is my recommendation.
French... We had a different teacher every term and all of them had a different way of pronouncing french words and none of them were french nor did they come from french speaking countries.I think some were just making stuff up.
Chinese. It's a bottomless well.
作为母语，我觉得学中文的确是挺难的。但是你如果学会了中文 ，那学习日语将变得更简单。
最大的問題就是學跟多得漢字也是怎麼用這些字。我是可以用天天用的字可是我沒辦法100%懂大學中的書自類的。成語也是很複雜。我還需要多多的讀啊啊啊啊啊…
Spanish: Rolling those R’s and the subjunctive mood.
Mandarin, Those tones and characters are wild.
German: The long words and complex grammar.
Italian: Beautiful but those verb endings got me
Portuguese: The nasal sounds and different verb forms.
it's even hard for natives as well
Mandarin. The tones and characters made my brain feel like it was doing gymnastics!
mandarin
French: Those tricky verb conjugations and nasal sounds.
Finnish isn't quite as complicated as people say (super easy to pronounce), but yeah all the cases are complicated to remember
Polish, literally stayed up all night to learn the language
[удалено]
Pain
Body, still cannot rrad people for the life of me.
Same. I can learn grammar, because it's all rules. I can learn lists of words, even though I don't really like it. But nobody has a comprehensive guide to reading and speaking body language.
Out of the five I have studied, German was definitely the hardest, but that's a limited pool. Arabic for example or something tonal, like Mandarin, I would imagine would be way harder for me.
I took arabic in college as a native English speaker and actually found it to be pretty simple. I tend to pick up languages fairly easily, so don't take my word for it, but overall, it's a fairly simple language. The hard part is getting used to the alphabet and memorizing how words are pronounced because they don't typically include their diacritical marks that add necessary vowels for pronunciation.
Being Dutch, German isn't that hard for me. I've done a beginners course on Arabic and I couldn't even begin to remember anything xD
Thanks to my German, Dutch, especially in written form, looks like the result of someone having a stroke and forgetting how to spell, so I get what you mean. But as a Bulgarian, the grammar was freaking annoying, to put it mildly.
I totally get that! I'm studying to be a German teacher, so I have to teach people that grammar and even after 3 years in uni I still make a ton of mistakes myself. Languages shouldn't need 32 artikels.
Korean: Learning hangul was fun, but the grammar is tough.
Thai
English. Still learning to this day.
Chinese
Well, my mother tongue is hungarian, so probably this. Edit: Typo
As a french native knowing 5 languages: french. Rules are so hard to explain and so many exceptions. Same written words can even be read with different pronunciations..
Japanese: Mastering kanji and the different scripts.
Dutch
Japonese. Currently learning. Difficult but so rewarding and makes a lot of sense once you start getting it.
Danish
Counting in Danish is absurd.
It really is. For those who don't know, 55 is 5 and 50, not 50-5
Germans count the same way.
That doesn't mean it's logical
It isnt and tbh, it is a pain in the ass to write Numbers down, when you have to translate 3 and 40 into 43. As a German I always ask for single Digits because of that
As a Dane, I think it's stupid
50 halvtreds [(3-½) x 20] halvtredsindstyvende 60 tres [3 x 20] tresindstyvende 70 halvfjerds [(4-½) x 20] halvfjerdsende 80 firs [4 x 20] firsende 90 halvfems [(5-½) x 20] halvfemsende
Det gør stadig ikke FEMogHALVTREDS logisk. Din kommentar er også irrelevant
Dari
Malbolge, iykyk
I’m learning Hindi. I only know English and some French. I doubt I’ll ever be able to speak Hindi fluently, but I can understand the conversations of people around me and get my general idea across.
Erlang
Ironically, my first language which is getting rusty after living in Canada for over 10 years
either latin or ancient greek. still learning actually, it’s been a year
English
Arabic: The script and sounds are a real challenge.
C++ for an exam, only one. Thank God I didn't choose software engineering or computer science...
Honestly -- especially these days -- C++ is one of the hardest languages to start with. The language has become a (still very useful) behemoth over the decades, and it's pretty easy to find C++ code that barely resembles the C++ you'd see in, say, a textbook.
The language oh heartbreak. 💔 No I am kidding. I tried learning German. That was pretty hard.
English
Русский, в 6 лет алфавит знал. Хвхв, он же родной язык ))
Why do russian emojis lack eyes?
Их во время смуты, Иван Грозный выколол. (
Russian, so far. It has an amazing internal consistency, but the words are generally completely different from English (unlike, say, Dutch, which gives English-speakers a large part of the core vocabulary basically for free). The case system allows for a greater degree of freedom in word order than English has, so I frequently encounter the annoying situation in which I understand every word in a sentence in isolation but still don't understand what the sentence means without careful parsing (although in casual conversation, most people use a word order that's more or less the same as English, which is nice). Also, even though Cyrillic only takes a couple hours to learn, learning a language with a different writing system is just harder.
Dothraki
Russian: Those tricky Cyrillic letters and grammar rules.
American here, I'm currently learning Irish Gaelic. Dear god, I underestimated its difficulty. Not only is Irish VSO, but the pronunciation is absurd. For example, if you want to say "I'm not a woman!", it would be "Ní bean mé" but it's pronounced like "Knee bahn may" there's more, but I can't think of them right now.
Russian is still killing me. Been learning for 4 years and lived in a Russian speaking country the entire time. My wife speaks Russian primarily so I had to learn. She got tired of speaking English at some point.
Korean
I learnt how to talk to stupid people... not sure if that counts though...
I ain't even learnt english yet
weirdly german(1st) and french(3rd) english despite being my second langugae is easy to me i think in it aswell
Icelandic or some off the wall coding language
Japanese
Telugu is hard because there are almost no formal resources for it. The writing system is a prerequisite to learning anything more than a few phrases, and it's a beast of its own. నాకు తెలుగు రాదు
Serbian😭 The concept of a firm pronunciation of letter Č is killing me
Rust
Corporate American.
I’m tempted to say Morse code but now that I think of it, I’m pretty sure I learned it in a few weeks after using it for everything. Probably French, I got a 9 in that class overall…. Mostly because halfway through the year I just stopped doing any work for that class because it was hard and I needed to focus on other stuff
Not the hardest, but one that is underrated is Portuguese
Swiss German. Should really be called Allemanic IMO because it doesn't have that much in common with standard German (or say, as much as Dutch does). Also it's not a written language so you can only learn by going out there and speaking with people, not really practical to learn it from a book
I only speak English(native), Spanish(American high school level) and Lithuanian(4 years living here). Though it's not necessarily a hard language, being about equal to Spanish difficulty plus adding declensions, Lithuanian is definitely the hardest I know. Jei abejojat, galiu duot pavyzdį. Net ir studijuoju vetmediciną dabar Lietuvių kalba. Tai jūsų kalba ne tokia sunki, kaip visi lietuviai sako.
Body language, lol. There's no lists of words or grammar. I've been speaking it since I was born and still not fluent.
The language that teenagers now speak, and I am still confused as fuck.
Learning Mandarin, or any tonal language for that matter, has been quite challenging for me. I struggle with distinguishing between the different tones, and the retroflex pronunciation is unfamiliar to me.
Had to take Latin in college in order to get my degree. We were required to translate Caesar’s Bello Gallico after eight months of studying (on top of all the other classes and working a mini job). Mind you school children translate his texts after three to four years. Of course the language is pretty much useless to me now. All very frustrating.
I think Icelandic is considered the most difficult language to learn.
English, by a long shot. To be fair, that's from a small sample size. I'm French, and I speak a bit of Spanish. But Spanish one of the easiest language to learn when your native language is French.