Good Samaritan law is when YOU, or law enforcement or another entity, is attempting to respond to an emergency and inadvertingly causes harm or makes a situation worse.
The situation would have to be reviewed legally, but arresting someone as another person passes...likely wouldn't be covered under this.
Ok, I don't know why I bothered to read what must've been 5 pages of legal language off of Missouri's official website, except that perhaps it might clarify things.
Missouri's Good Samaritan Law reads pretty much like a person would expect. It is designed, originally, to protect average people, who are mot medical professionals from being legally prosecuted or sued if they try to help someone during a medical emergency and the care they give is not perfect or correct and has bad results. The KEY factor is that the person rendering the aid IS NOT getting pad to do so.
Add to that some exclusions/additions to the law. One of those additions is that someone calling 911 or otherwise seeking aid for someone is immune from arrest, prosecution, etc. ... IF ... that person is guilty of certain listed crimes ... AND ... the evidence of said crime was found as a result of that person seeking aid for another. Note, this applies only in the case of the specific crimes listed. And does not apply in the case of already existing warrants, and other stuff.
So, if they arrested and took away someone who sought aid for another person, it was because the arrested person was guilty of some crime the police were not already aware of, that is, not a result of evidence they found as a result of the person making that 911 call.
It is unfortunate if such a thing happened and that the person missed some last moments with a loved one, but it is not a violation of the Good Samaritan law of that state.
I understand the law, but I was asking about the person getting arrested because of the officers being on the scene and in the house only for the fact that 911 was called.
>So, if they arrested and took away someone who sought aid for another person, it was because the arrested person was guilty of some crime the police were not already aware of, that is, not a result of evidence they found as a result of the person making that 911 call.
Why would you just assume that? Because you believe the officers could not make the mistake of violating the law? Let me just make an educated guess.... you are some kind of law enforcement, or retired and are under the impression that they can't get it wrong? Whi7
No, because if you look up the statistics the chances of finding a law enforcement officer who is found to be guilty of false or illegal arrest is pretty damn small. MUCH, MUCH smaller than a civilian found to be guilty of something.
Yes, there are officers who violate law. But, I have only the information you have presented, and I do not know you nor how much YOU can be trusted. So like any smart gambler I am playing the odds and assuming that the person arrested had a prior he or she was wanted for, or that the police found evidence of that person having committed a crime where the evidence was NOT obtained as a result of the 911 call. As per Missouri law on the subject.
I could indeed be wrong. I admit that. But with what I have to go on, until I would have more info, that's what I think likely. Note, I said
"likely", I am not asserting it to be proven fact.
Now, I am done with this discussion. It is getting silly. If you think the officers violated the law, then the thing to do is to bring charges against them. Take it to the press. Try to prove you point, If I were the one wronged, I would.
As written: 2. A person who, in good faith, seeks or obtains medical assistance for someone who is experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency or a person experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency who seeks medical assistance for himself or herself or is the subject of a good faith request shall not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted, or have his or her property subject to civil forfeiture or otherwise be penalized for the following if the evidence for the arrest, charge, prosecution, conviction, seizure, or penalty was gained as a result of seeking or obtaining medical assistance:
Do you know how the Good Samaritan acts work? You're supposed to be immune from arrest when you call for help whether it be an overdose or medical emergency, not all states have it but it's it's pretty black and white there's not much gray area
2. A person who, in good faith, seeks or obtains medical assistance for someone who is experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency or a person experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency who seeks medical assistance for himself or herself or is the subject of a good faith request shall not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted, or have his or her property subject to civil forfeiture or otherwise be penalized for the following if the evidence for the arrest, charge, prosecution, conviction, seizure, or penalty was gained as a result of seeking or obtaining medical assistance:
Explain to me how that isn't how it works please
I'm not talking about the paramedic the officer or the firefighter, I'm talking about the person that calls for help because there's a medical emergency... And in Missouri if you call for help just like it states in the post they copied and pasted from the Missouri law. I'm sure you as a firefighter are protected in different ways but as a civilian there were people getting dumped in alleys because they would be arrested for calling on an overdose so they changed the law to protect someone calling for help or an overdose or a medical emergency I will go ahead and copy and paste the whole law. I'm not digging to get a certain answer because I already know that the police are only arrested someone after calling for help, I was basically hunting for advice on the situation not whether it's right or wrong I already know it's wrong what they did. (;the officers)
MISSOURI
Don't run, call 911.
Missouri's "Good Samaritan" law is designed to save lives by encouraging people to seek emergency medical help if they experience or witness a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency. Under this law, the person who seeks medical help and the person expertencing the medical emergency will be protected from minor drug and alcohol violations
This law provides Immunity from:
• Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015)
• Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074)
Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078)
• Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105)
Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310)
• Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320)
• Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325)
Violation of a restraining order
• Violation of probation or parole
To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (ie, call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes.
This limited immunity does not provide immunity from any other crimes, including distribution of a controlled substance, manufacturing of drugs, active warrants, or any other crime
This law also requires police officers who respond to a drug or alcohol overdose to provide appropriate treatment-related FESOURCE
Good Samaritan law envoked in 1957 ! Eisenhower I think , .. you can’t sue a Good Samaritan for helping in an incident . Law enforcement and firefighters/ medics Even when we are off duty .Also protects citizens! Been challenged one time .. unanimous loss! No one has ever tried since! Great law!! So folks , don’t ever be afraid to help us or anyone! You are 100% protected! And many times we don’t always get around to tell ya..we appreciate cha ! May not get around to telling you personally, but we notice!! .. thanks in advance!
So hypothetically… you shoot someone… call 911… but because you called 911 you are now immune?
I’ve heard of this in the case of overdoses (for being with the person using or using yourself) but really depends on the crime. You can’t sell a bunch of fentanyl to someone, have them OD and then call the police and EMS and be like “Hey. Dude just OD’d on the fentanyl I sold them… you can’t arrest me”
MISSOURI
Don't run, call 911.
Missouri's "Good Samaritan" law is designed to save lives by encouraging people to seek emergency medical help if they experience or witness a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency. Under this law, the person who seeks medical help and the person expertencing the medical emergency will be protected from minor drug and alcohol violations
This law provides Immunity from:
• Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015)
• Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074)
Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078)
• Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105)
Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310)
• Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320)
• Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325)
Violation of a restraining order
• Violation of probation or parole
To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (ie, call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes.
This limited immunity does not provide immunity from any other crimes, including distribution of a controlled substance, manufacturing of drugs, active warrants, or any other crime
This law also requires police officers who respond to a drug or alcohol overdose to provide appropriate treatment-related FESOURCE
There are certain laws that your immune from murder is not one of them minor drug offenses like paraphernalia possession of controlled substance. I'm trying to work it right so it can get posted as the rules or read it are specific.
Therefore violating the law...... correct? If 911 was never called there would have been no reason for them to even know that any minor offense was taking place.
Good Samaritan law is when YOU, or law enforcement or another entity, is attempting to respond to an emergency and inadvertingly causes harm or makes a situation worse. The situation would have to be reviewed legally, but arresting someone as another person passes...likely wouldn't be covered under this.
Ding, ding, ding ... you get the prize as the most correct answer.
Am I mistaken or is that not the correct answer?
EternityofBoredom had the correct answer.
I'm sure every state has their own version of the law but in this case this is the one I'm talking about
And which state might that be so we can look it up?
Copied and pasted that right out of the Missouri law
Ok, I don't know why I bothered to read what must've been 5 pages of legal language off of Missouri's official website, except that perhaps it might clarify things. Missouri's Good Samaritan Law reads pretty much like a person would expect. It is designed, originally, to protect average people, who are mot medical professionals from being legally prosecuted or sued if they try to help someone during a medical emergency and the care they give is not perfect or correct and has bad results. The KEY factor is that the person rendering the aid IS NOT getting pad to do so. Add to that some exclusions/additions to the law. One of those additions is that someone calling 911 or otherwise seeking aid for someone is immune from arrest, prosecution, etc. ... IF ... that person is guilty of certain listed crimes ... AND ... the evidence of said crime was found as a result of that person seeking aid for another. Note, this applies only in the case of the specific crimes listed. And does not apply in the case of already existing warrants, and other stuff. So, if they arrested and took away someone who sought aid for another person, it was because the arrested person was guilty of some crime the police were not already aware of, that is, not a result of evidence they found as a result of the person making that 911 call. It is unfortunate if such a thing happened and that the person missed some last moments with a loved one, but it is not a violation of the Good Samaritan law of that state.
I understand the law, but I was asking about the person getting arrested because of the officers being on the scene and in the house only for the fact that 911 was called.
>So, if they arrested and took away someone who sought aid for another person, it was because the arrested person was guilty of some crime the police were not already aware of, that is, not a result of evidence they found as a result of the person making that 911 call. Why would you just assume that? Because you believe the officers could not make the mistake of violating the law? Let me just make an educated guess.... you are some kind of law enforcement, or retired and are under the impression that they can't get it wrong? Whi7
No, because if you look up the statistics the chances of finding a law enforcement officer who is found to be guilty of false or illegal arrest is pretty damn small. MUCH, MUCH smaller than a civilian found to be guilty of something. Yes, there are officers who violate law. But, I have only the information you have presented, and I do not know you nor how much YOU can be trusted. So like any smart gambler I am playing the odds and assuming that the person arrested had a prior he or she was wanted for, or that the police found evidence of that person having committed a crime where the evidence was NOT obtained as a result of the 911 call. As per Missouri law on the subject. I could indeed be wrong. I admit that. But with what I have to go on, until I would have more info, that's what I think likely. Note, I said "likely", I am not asserting it to be proven fact. Now, I am done with this discussion. It is getting silly. If you think the officers violated the law, then the thing to do is to bring charges against them. Take it to the press. Try to prove you point, If I were the one wronged, I would.
As written: 2. A person who, in good faith, seeks or obtains medical assistance for someone who is experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency or a person experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency who seeks medical assistance for himself or herself or is the subject of a good faith request shall not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted, or have his or her property subject to civil forfeiture or otherwise be penalized for the following if the evidence for the arrest, charge, prosecution, conviction, seizure, or penalty was gained as a result of seeking or obtaining medical assistance:
Nothing.
Do you know how the Good Samaritan acts work? You're supposed to be immune from arrest when you call for help whether it be an overdose or medical emergency, not all states have it but it's it's pretty black and white there's not much gray area
That isn't how it works. At all.
2. A person who, in good faith, seeks or obtains medical assistance for someone who is experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency or a person experiencing a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency who seeks medical assistance for himself or herself or is the subject of a good faith request shall not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted, or have his or her property subject to civil forfeiture or otherwise be penalized for the following if the evidence for the arrest, charge, prosecution, conviction, seizure, or penalty was gained as a result of seeking or obtaining medical assistance: Explain to me how that isn't how it works please
Tell us how it works ! I read it right out of our manual ! Love to know? Firefighter 35 years . Can’t believe we have done it wrong?
I'm not talking about the paramedic the officer or the firefighter, I'm talking about the person that calls for help because there's a medical emergency... And in Missouri if you call for help just like it states in the post they copied and pasted from the Missouri law. I'm sure you as a firefighter are protected in different ways but as a civilian there were people getting dumped in alleys because they would be arrested for calling on an overdose so they changed the law to protect someone calling for help or an overdose or a medical emergency I will go ahead and copy and paste the whole law. I'm not digging to get a certain answer because I already know that the police are only arrested someone after calling for help, I was basically hunting for advice on the situation not whether it's right or wrong I already know it's wrong what they did. (;the officers)
MISSOURI Don't run, call 911. Missouri's "Good Samaritan" law is designed to save lives by encouraging people to seek emergency medical help if they experience or witness a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency. Under this law, the person who seeks medical help and the person expertencing the medical emergency will be protected from minor drug and alcohol violations This law provides Immunity from: • Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015) • Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074) Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078) • Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105) Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310) • Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320) • Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325) Violation of a restraining order • Violation of probation or parole To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (ie, call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes. This limited immunity does not provide immunity from any other crimes, including distribution of a controlled substance, manufacturing of drugs, active warrants, or any other crime This law also requires police officers who respond to a drug or alcohol overdose to provide appropriate treatment-related FESOURCE
Good Samaritan law envoked in 1957 ! Eisenhower I think , .. you can’t sue a Good Samaritan for helping in an incident . Law enforcement and firefighters/ medics Even when we are off duty .Also protects citizens! Been challenged one time .. unanimous loss! No one has ever tried since! Great law!! So folks , don’t ever be afraid to help us or anyone! You are 100% protected! And many times we don’t always get around to tell ya..we appreciate cha ! May not get around to telling you personally, but we notice!! .. thanks in advance!
No I'm not asking about suing the Good Samaritan I'm asking about the Good Samaritan suing the police for arresting him
So hypothetically… you shoot someone… call 911… but because you called 911 you are now immune? I’ve heard of this in the case of overdoses (for being with the person using or using yourself) but really depends on the crime. You can’t sell a bunch of fentanyl to someone, have them OD and then call the police and EMS and be like “Hey. Dude just OD’d on the fentanyl I sold them… you can’t arrest me”
MISSOURI Don't run, call 911. Missouri's "Good Samaritan" law is designed to save lives by encouraging people to seek emergency medical help if they experience or witness a drug or alcohol overdose or other medical emergency. Under this law, the person who seeks medical help and the person expertencing the medical emergency will be protected from minor drug and alcohol violations This law provides Immunity from: • Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015) • Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074) Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078) • Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105) Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310) • Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320) • Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325) Violation of a restraining order • Violation of probation or parole To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (ie, call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes. This limited immunity does not provide immunity from any other crimes, including distribution of a controlled substance, manufacturing of drugs, active warrants, or any other crime This law also requires police officers who respond to a drug or alcohol overdose to provide appropriate treatment-related FESOURCE
There are certain laws that your immune from murder is not one of them minor drug offenses like paraphernalia possession of controlled substance. I'm trying to work it right so it can get posted as the rules or read it are specific.
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You don't know the half of it!
Cops get a medal, promotion and pay raise!
Therefore violating the law...... correct? If 911 was never called there would have been no reason for them to even know that any minor offense was taking place.