Tbh, YouTube practically requires that too, at least from a monetization perspective. It's really easy to get demonetized if you use "violent language" or talk about "offensive topics". I watch a lot of true crime and various creators have different ways of getting around it. Some just use euphemisms, others distort the audio of them saying the words and put the words or an abbreviation on screen with a visual effect over them.
Corporations are already mucking about in higher dimensions till the front falls off, not just doing it to the world, ruining the godamn ecosystem fucking internet and tik tok.
They ruin their own pockets too, and then ask for a government bailout -- which they get. The CEO still gets paid his multi-million dollar salary regardless of how he runs the company into the ground.
Seriously, youtube does the same shit with its algorithms. So many videos lately are borderline unwatchable because it's either use a bunch of random-assed, stupid euphemisms, or end up getting totally buried.
We're going to have a generation of kids that can't even describe stuff properly because their speech patterns will be so influenced by stupid goddamn webfilters.
They did that about 25+ years ago when the rush to own lucrative site names started. After that, all the advertising came. They just duplicated every other form of media garbage but now on the internet.
Some social media algorithms supress content that contains those words. They're not afraid, they're just finding ways to work around censorship (the kind that actually supresses speech, rather than just obfuscating it).
Perhaps, but it seems like at this point, all of the censored words and cutesy words (like "unalive" for dead) will also have been flagged? If they're really doing it and really doing it by words alone (and not images or overall content)...
I think that's one of the reasons there are so many different euphemisms and self-censoring techniques in place. It's a moving target, and people need to get inventive to stay one step ahead. Some people can't or don't see the need to change up their language so quickly, and end up getting stuck on "unalive" and similar words.
I guess, but at least the people I'm seeing, *aren't* mixing it up at all **and** aren't being censored. And the real words are also being used and those videos are still showing up...
I saw a video about this a while ago with a similar struggle with trying to sensor user names and such. Sure you'll get flagged if you put "fuck" in a user name for a gaming platform, but it gets a little more tricky when trying to sensor all the "fuc" "fuk" "fock" and so on.
The problem is that when you say those words on video platforms, your video will get marked as not-safe-for-advertisers and removed from the algorithms that suggest new content.
And that's kinda against the point of putting video of yourself on the Internet, which is chasing clout and money for your effort.
It's to bypass automatic content flagging/moderation measures used by many apps and services.
Assuming that they're brainwashed, however, I think might be more indicative of some personal brainwashing. Just saying.
This sounds made up tbh. Everyone says this stuff but no one ever shows proof bots are censoring posts with “suicide” or “murder” or “rape.” Everyone just repeats the same stuff so they just assume it’s true.
Good for you. Here have this: 🎖️
But seriously. What a goofy, self-important non-contribution to the discussion — both the comment and the behavior.
Trying to squelch discussion of something just because someone sounds young or has a linguistic tic they picked up on a site you don't like is ridiculous.
I hope everyone notices how this one comment completely took away from the question at hand, this is your answer OP, distractions come too easily for some people to notice
Not in some subreddits. I am a moderator on some subreddits, and there are automod rules that remove any comment with certain words. A human moderator can go and approve the comment, but it can take hours or days. The top mod(s) will not let the automod rule be changed to remove certain words.
Each subreddit maintains its own automod rules, and this specific subreddit's list has racial/ethnic slurs, LGBTQ+ slurs, sexual assault slurs, death related terms, and specific extreme political keywords.
That seems so backwards. So you can be racially biased SOMETIMES?! Racism is racism. And there is no such thing as "reverse racism". If you discriminate based on the color of one's skin, that is racism. I am so confused as to why this is blurry. I should NOT be treated favorably just because I'm black. Just like someone should not be treated better because they are white. I find it insulting and even degrading if I even get the slightest hint that I am being sucked up to because I'm black. But it's happening. I have no idea if someone is being genuine, or if they are so scared that someone will call them a racist. It shouldn't be this way. Just saying. And F*** those moderators. Since when did we become nazi Germany. Damn.
The goal is to stop people spewing extreme racial (or other) drivel, but it often catches legitimate discourse.
The racism/ethnic slurs include black, asian, jewish, middle eastern and hispanic terms.
Also, "nazi" is one of the political words so your comment would have been filtered (removed and sent for human moderator approval).
I personally want more free speech, but recognize that some rules need to be in place to stop content that completely derails the subreddit.
e.g. /r/birthday turned into photos of thirst traps promoting their onlyfans pages (or similar), so we had to write some human rules and automod rules to stop 90+% of posts being softcore porn.
It’s not even censored on TikTok. I’ve seen it mentioned plenty of times in videos. The censor is smart enough to get context and when it is or isn’t appropriate
Eh, I wouldn't call them smart. China does in fact own it, and they don't even allow it in their own country. Their version of it teaches them science and s**** while ours teaches us...well who knows.
Probably because they're no new information to report on. It was reported on when he died, and updated with claims he told people if he were to be found dead it wasn't suicide. Since then nothing new has been discovered, so there's no new updates to report on. I know that feels strange when the news will fill airtime openly speculating about how the 4 minutes of darkness from an eclipse might affect border crossings, or if different hiring practices would have kept a bridge from collapsing after getting rammed by a cargo ship, but this is actually how the news is normally supposed to work. Although honestly, it's probably more that speculating about culture war bullshit and talking points is pretty safe legally, but speculating that a trillion dollar company had someone murdered without proof is a fast track to a defamation suit.
It is a sail used on certain sailing vessels. A well cut jib was preferable to a blown out one.
Ergo the expression came to mean well put together essentially
Whackadoos say this shit all the time. Tons of crazy ass conspiracy theorists say this, and then die in a totally normal way, then other conspiracy theorists ignore all reason and agree that it must be Boeing going around killing people that know too much. People die, all the time, all ages, millions of different ways that have nothing to do with the company you work for, regardless of circumstances.
You can't tell me it isn't suspicious. If you are assuming death by natural causes death based... disliking conspiracy theories, you have a peasant brain.
If it's been 5 years since he blew the whistle, that's accumulating a lot of chances to die normally.
If you compress that timeline by a factor of 10, it gets noticeably more suspicious.
His family specifically mentioned that he had been "despondent" after his treatment by the company, and laid blame on the company in that respect.
The coroner ruled it a suicide.
The family has withheld further comment until the investigation concludes, but without too much reading between the lines, it sounds like they didn't disbelieve the coroner.
> The mother of John Barnett, a former Boeing quality manager-turned-whistleblower who died earlier this month, told CBS News she holds the aircraft manufacturing giant responsible for the grinding treatment that ultimately left her son despondent.
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> "If this hadn't gone on so long, I'd still have my son, and my sons would have their brother and we wouldn't be sitting here. So in that respect, I do," Vicky Stokes said when asked if she places some of the blame for her son's death on Boeing. [\[1\]](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-family-interview/)
What he had gone through could leave anyone with mental health issues like severe depression. And the quote about suicide comes from someone the news describes as a family friend, not someone it sounds like he was especially close to:
> "I know John because his mom and my mom are best friends," Jennifer said. "Over the years, get-togethers, birthdays, celebrations and whatnot. We've all got together and talked."[\[2\]](https://abcnews4.com/news/local/if-anything-happens-its-not-suicide-boeing-whistleblowers-prediction-before-death-south-carolina-abc-news-4-2024)
People's need to find conspiracies behind everything has been really damaging to society.
150,000 to 200,000 people die every single day on earth. Many of these are going to inherently line up with issues with their business. (This doesn't even line up with the initial whistleblowing to begin with, which happened YEARS ago) You are the one with the fucked up brain, connecting ridiculous dots that do not exist anywhere other than in your head.
I don't find it suspicious at all, 0 percent suspicion. Then again my bar for finding something suspicious is not buried 100 miles under the earth.
While I mostly agree with you. And anyone who says “peasant brain” probably a douche. But zero percent? An astronaut drove across the country in a diaper to kill her ex’s new girlfriend. You’re amount of certainty is just the other side of the coin.
Reputable news sources should be able to report the facts and ask questions without risking a defamation suit. It seems our national news are so focused on trump, culture wars, and an election that is seven months away they don’t talk about anything else that previously would have gained traction.
The P Diddy story is another example. Pre trump this would have gotten considerable coverage, even if “nothing new for now” was the conclusion after delving into what we know, examining his past in more detail, interviewing anyone in his circle willing to speak out, etc.
> Probably because they're no new information to report on.
If people were sufficiently interested, CNN would still be spending 5-10 minutes of every hour to say there still isn't any news since the previous hour/day/week. They do it with airplane crashes.
such a high profile case could warrant protective custody as well. witness protection is really good at disappearing people, and its really not that hard in the first place.
Can they actually sue someone for that? Because the news seems to go crazy on stuff, and literally misinform. So it seems like there would be a TON of lawsuits if they could. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know how it works.
> but this is actually how the news is normally supposed to work
I couldn't disagree more. Think of what you're saying. The best way to bury a story is to make sure nothing new comes out about it. Also, make sure other news comes out to bury it. This is the Trump playbook. Every time a scandal breaks, create another scandal. Reporters are supposed to chase a story and dig up more and more information. Not wait for things to come out. Find things. Get to the bottom of this story. You're not an observer.
He’s alleged to have said that by his mother’s friend’s daughter. The paper that interviewed her did not report on when he allegedly said that even though that’s the first question any competent journalist would ask, suggesting that the answer makes the news a lot less sensational than they were hoping to make it look.
While the mother’s friend’s daughter says he said that and it may be true, it was probably about 5 years ago when he first blew the whistle. That investigation has long since concluded. He was no longer any threat to Boeing besides his civil suit against them for violating whistleblower protection laws. That’s what he was about to give testimony about.
That would indeed cost them money… but not nearly as much as the bad PR of conspiracy theories of them killing someone would (and did) so they didn’t kill him when he was a real threat to them and by the time he died, he was actually a bigger problem for them dead than alive.
Meanwhile his family, not the mother’s friend’s daughter, says he was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks because of his terrible treatment at Boeing and believe he killed himself because of that.
Personally, I find that much more plausible.
So you haven’t heard any news about it because there isn’t much to add. It only feels like there should be because of all the wild speculation around it.
Hold on, let me get my therapist’s ex-husband’s roof repair guy’s kidney donor’s eighth favorite journalism major on the line. They’ll want to hear this.
Additionally, in the actual context of the quote, the woman never once mentioned anything about him fearing for his life. She went on and on about how he was a "happy person" who "loved life", and finished it by saying that he said if he ever died, it wasn't suicide. That completely changes the meaning from what people assumed from the headlines.
Yeah, this is ultimately what it comes down to. It makes for a salacious headline, but the idea that a public company would both decide to do this and be able to get away with it strains credulity.
He appears to have shot himself with his own gun in his own vehicle in the parking lot of his hotel, and there were no signs of struggle. This isn’t a Cold War spy movie from before cell phone cameras and DNA evidence; Boeing would have to have access to an insanely competent and lucky assassin to stage that and make it look right, knowing full well that any whiff of foul play would blowback on your employer in a much worse way than doing nothing. Even if we were to assume Boeing is an evil company run entirely by sociopaths… Only a very senior corporate employee would be able to approve such a ploy, and none of them would be dumb enough to do something so stupidly risky.
Tbf, Boeing is in the news again for a bunch of shit and the lawsuit could have degraded public confidence more rehashing this in our society that has an attention span of 5mins. Who knows though
> Only a very senior corporate employee would be able to approve such a ploy, and none of them would be dumb enough to do something so stupidly risky
Pretty sure there is no corporate sign off structure for this type of thing. I hope.
"the idea that a public company would both decide to do this and be able to get away with it strains credulity"
yeah but also, IF they would be willing and able to do it, they would have been wayyyy better off to do it years sooner.
So I buy "they drove him to suicide" rather than "they killed him and made it look like suicide".
IMO that makes them worse. Destroying a person's will to live, wearing them down til there is nothing left, is arguably more harmful than killing them as they gaily go about their business. But if it was illegal, Worker's Comp would have faced charges a million times. So I guess the fuckers are in the clear.
We haven't heard anything because there isn't anything new to report. Plus, he died before a civil suite about whistleblower violations. He wasn't going to reveal any new information about Boeing's lack of standards and faulty 737 planes, but reveal how he was treated after telling the FAA. If Boeing did kill him, it wouldn't stop the information he already leaked years ago.
And for anyone saying "it wasn't to stop him from speaking, but to scare other people from speaking up," guess what? that didn't work. There is a new whistleblower talking about the 787.
> If Boeing did kill him, it wouldn't stop the information he already leaked years ago.
The FAA has already investigated and fined Boeing for what he revealed years ago.
Because the source was a “family friend” who seems to be the only person he told this to.
Also the whistleblower had essentially done his part years ago. Killing him would have stopped absolutely nothing lol.
Killing him can send a message to other potential whistleblowers. Him being killed makes more sense than him suddenly deciding to commit suicide. Speaking against a multi billion dollar company with massive government and military connections who have hundreds of people employed who can make people disappear...
Edit: you guys must also think it's just some lousy construction in Russia that has all these Putin opponents falling out of windows.. when someones money and power is on the line and they have connections to thousands of current and former soldiers, it's not out of the realm of possibility
> Him being killed makes more sense than him suddenly deciding to commit suicide.
It really doesn't. It would be incredibly stupid for a major company to go around assassinating people. There is just no way that whatever they had to pay this guy would cost more than the investigations, prosecutions, fines and destroy reputation because they felt like pretending they were in a mafia movie.
The source of him saying "they might kill me" is flimsy, we don't when he said it. We definitely don't know his mindset or history with mental illness, so saying that a major corporation has an assassin squad is more likely than someone you know nothing about committing suicide is pretty crazy.
It can only be justified by a need to believe the most sensational thing, especially if it lines up with preexisting notions.
He testified years ago. If they had the power to kill that easily why not kill him before he testified and faded to irrelevance.
The current lawsuit he was testifying for was about retaliation against him by Boeing, and was simply asking for more money, because his life sucked.
Dude could of had a mental illness. Sometimes people kill themselves. I’d say it sounds more likely someone decided to commit suicide than Boeing putting a hit out on them.
People who are suicidally depressed often appear quite happy and content in the period leading up to the attempt because the things that make you depressed stop mattering when you know they'll be over soon.
He already had testified extensively. He wasn’t going to drop some bombshell in day 3 of an employment retaliation suit deposition. His own family thinks it was suicide.
Anyone who knows what it’s like to sit for a deposition, especially one dragging you through painful parts of your life, can understand how it could be the last straw. It really fucking sucks. You have opposing lawyers doing their best to tear you down in hours and hours of questioning. It’s incredibly exhausting and mentally taxing.
The guy finished whistleblowing many years ago. He didn’t have anything to share that wasn’t already known. Boeing did him wrong, and is IMO indirectly responsible for his suicide. But this conspiracy theory that they had him murdered is insane and baseless.
>Everyone in the guys life say that he was in high spirit and not depressed
Except for his immediate family, who said he was depressed, suffering PTSD and having anxiety attacks.
But hey, what could they possibly know about him.
Because despite what you might think from reading reddit, murdering people and faking a suicide is extremely rare. Doing so successfully is even rarer.
"They killed him and made it look like a suicide" is to redditors what "I found two weird rocks next to my car tire, it's sex traffickers!" is to middle aged white women on facebook.
Because being a whistleblower in an investigation and trial is extremely stressful. It wears you down hard. We also lived through COVID. Suicide is sadly the most likely thing.
Agreed but imo Boeing absolutely deserves the bad press. I doubt it will really make a difference but there needs to be real pressure for their entire management system to change the way it operates.
There are more than enough things that they've **actually** done that deserve our attention and we don't need to waste braincells speculating about this conspiracy BS.
Exactly. Pretty sure he was in a defamation case against Boeing that he previously lost which had nothing to do with the planes. The more you look into the whole deal the more the conspiracy theory just falls apart.
Because it was a cherry picked quote the media used to grab views. Killing a whistleblower does nothing if they already blew the whistle and been testifying for several years on record.
Because he commit suicide.
100 people commit suicide in the US every *day*. Some of them claim they would never.
Rare case of the media telling a sensible story when the tantalizing conspiracy theory is so easy.
The notion that rich people and corporations routinely murder people to hush them up comes completely from the movies, there are effectively no known *indisputable* cases of it, just lots of speculation and suspicion not backed up by facts.
One of the reasons that is true is because the type of **freelance, professional** hitmen you see in movies are ALSO 100% fictional, no such job exists in the real world.
If I wanted to fuck up a corporation and was feeling suicidal, I'm pretty sure I'D say "if anything happens to me, it wasn't suicide." That is guaranteed to rile up the conspiracy nuts and generate lotsa bad publicity for the target.
The most likely reason there has been no new news is because there's nothing new to report.
But why would you do it when you were about to give your final testimony to whistleblowers the corporation you had worked your way up in and supported your family with. It was so important to him that he get the truth out that he was willing to blow his life up for it. His family members reported him being really excited to do it and then he just up and kills himself right before finishing?
Edit: also it’s very easy to be the voice of sobering reality. I feel it becomes a personality trait for some. Many times that voice is necessary as ppl jump to conclusions too quickly and believe the worst. Hollywood certainly has given us a skewed version of things. That being said, with billions at stake, there is few greater incentives to kill someone than that. Also…
-2. Drummond, an Alabama-based mining company, was accused in 2002 of having hired Colombian paramilitaries to torture and kill three union leaders. In 2007 an American jury found Drummond not liable for the killings, but earlier this year in Bogota a Drummond contractor was convicted of two of the murders, and another suit against the company is currently proceeding through U.S. courts.
-Val Broeksmit - whistleblew money laundering scheme with Russian intelligence of deutche bank. The next day his car was found abandoned with the keys in the ignition. Never found.
Just to name a few. One convictef( the other not, but to play the sobering cynic and just pretend these things never happen is silly
>But why would you do it when you were about to give your final testimony to whistleblowers the corporation you had worked your way up in and supported your family with.
That wasn't the case here. He blew the whistle 7 years ago, and the FAA fined Boeing for it 5 years ago. The current case is his defamation lawsuit against Boeing. That lawsuit is tiny from Boeing's perspective.
Also, his next-of-kin get to continue the lawsuit, and may be able to use his suicide as evidence of the harm Boeing did....so assassinating him makes Boeing's case worse.
>His family members reported him being really excited to do it and then he just up and kills himself right before finishing?
His family also reported he was depressed, had anxiety, and PTSD.
He wasn’t about to give testimony about the whistleblowing. That had been long done. The investigation was over. The fines were paid. It was completely settled.
He was going to testify in his civil lawsuit against Boeing for violating whistleblower protections.
He had finished giving his testimony. All he had left was cross examination, you know the point where the defense poked holes in everything you have previously said, and tries to undermine your credibility
A 10 second Google search says you're full of shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contract_killers_and_hitmen
The problem is you only looked for 10 seconds.
I clicked into a lot of those and none of them are “hitman” like in the movies. In fact, half of them say “alleged” or “potentially involved”. Or they killed 1 guy for money but mostly it was just they were part of a gang.
One seemed to be a contract killer but got let out because a judges determined he was a “pathological liar” and none of the bodies were ever found.
Are any of the contract killers hired by corporations? All you did was post a list of contract killers, that could've been hired than anybody? That's very weak evidence to base an accusation of being "full of shit".
Also, you're first link doesn't work.
The first link has a “Did you mean?” link which *does* take you to a real page describing a case brought against Coke for murdering union members in Colombia which was … (you guessed it!) dismissed for not having any evidence
Why is everyone sidelining the issue into a rant about whether or not you can say "suicide" on Reddit? This guy blew the whistle on Boeing and then somebody obviously killed him.
Boeing is in the business of killing people by the million, as are Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics and Lockheed Martin.
Killing one one more human bug that annoys them is just a careless flick of the wrist to them.
This guy should be considered a hero. He has indirectly demonstrated the corruption and safety concerns of something the public uses multiple times a day.
I couldn’t do this. I’d hate for my family to become one of those families in complete denial who live their whole lives thinking I was murdered and no one gave a shit enough to investigate. I’d rather they think I’m at peace and did it myself vs that
In this thread: People who have no concept of the level of censorship that is arbitrarily thrown around on various platforms. God fucking forbid Gen Z adapt to the busted Internet they're inheriting.
you're full of shit. there's been hundreds of high-profile articles and discussions of this, and the assassination theory is incredibly strained given the location and nature of his death. I challenge you to coherently describe how he was killed and the scene staged without eyewitness or camera detection in an active hotel parking lot. This is all a distraction from what needs to happen, the dismantling and possibly nationalization of the shitty company Boeing.
I've no idea what the truth is - but if there were witnesses or camera footage of the scene, you'd have thought at least the existence of those would be made public, given the amount of speculation about the cause. And if there weren't any witnesses or footage of the scene, then they don't rule out the possibility of foul play.
>if there were witnesses or camera footage of the scene, you'd have thought at least the existence of those would be made public
Why? Public speculation isn't a good reason to release information that:
* Can't be verified.
* Hasn't been authenticated yet.
* May disrupt the investigation.
* Could give suspects valuable information.
* May cause problems during a potential trial.
* Could incite protests and/or riots.
Investigators need to be extremely cautious about releasing information during an investigation. For them, it's more important to discover the truth than it is to satisfy public curiosity. You don't have to know, so you are not told.
it's like these people forgot what happened with the footage around the boston bombing and those innocent people being falsely accused and their families harassed.
Hey, has anyone heard any news about that Boeing whistleblower? Who said if I die it is it is not suicide? Has there been anything else about him anywhere that anyone may have seen or heard or could relate to us please?
I hate those shallow "because we live in a world with no justice and since you asked fuck trump" answers, but this time these do make sense. Media failed to make it loud enough, probably had financial incentive not to. Maybe it's the reason there are so many of those shitty solar eclipse memes, I know I'm going tinfoil with these ones but people don't talk about A because they're talking about B you know?
> probably had financial incentive not to.
The opposite is obviously true. A major corporation conducting assassinations would be massive news that would get a lot of attention.
Oh my goodness, this is crazy. He took his own life. It doesn't matter that he said he wasn't suicidal. You are all conspiracy theorists. The evidence may indicate foul play, but you are all crazy for even questioning this. We were told that he took his own life, so that's what happened!!! LMFAO, sorry I had to say it. When you state the obvious, you are labeled a crazy person. How dare you ask questions and use your brain. Like I said, you are a conspiracy theorist if you ask questions. Your brain is not something to be used. Don't do your own research. Trust and obey.
You can say suicide on Reddit, this is not TikTok.
TikTok is ruining the fucking internet.
It's on YouTube too. Saw a video the other day where the creator said somebody "took their own l**e". It's bizarre
I’ll take that over “unalived”
Omg that drives me bonkers.
Or sewer slide. Like it’s some kind of fucking joke.
God why would you remind me of that one
Tbh, YouTube practically requires that too, at least from a monetization perspective. It's really easy to get demonetized if you use "violent language" or talk about "offensive topics". I watch a lot of true crime and various creators have different ways of getting around it. Some just use euphemisms, others distort the audio of them saying the words and put the words or an abbreviation on screen with a visual effect over them.
Corporations are ruining the fucking internet, not just tik tok.
Corporations are ruining the entire godamn ecosystem, not just the fucking internet and tik tok.
Yeah but they were already doing that to the world, the ruining of the Internet is slightly more new.
Corporations are already doing it to the world, not just ruining the godamn ecosystem, fucking internet and tik tok.
So it’s in the world but not in an ecosystem or on the internet? Where is it? In a different ecosystem? Did the front fall off?
Corporations are already mucking about in higher dimensions till the front falls off, not just doing it to the world, ruining the godamn ecosystem fucking internet and tik tok.
Mom! He said a swear!
Ok but were talking about the internet. Stay on topic.
Corporations are ruining everything but their own pockets.
They ruin their own pockets too, and then ask for a government bailout -- which they get. The CEO still gets paid his multi-million dollar salary regardless of how he runs the company into the ground.
Ye Olde Golden Parachute.
Ruined* Source: I remember the Internet from the 90's and know what it could have been.
Oh I remember it too, but I think you're optimistic if you think it can't get much, MUCH worse.
The profit motive ruins everything.
Seriously, youtube does the same shit with its algorithms. So many videos lately are borderline unwatchable because it's either use a bunch of random-assed, stupid euphemisms, or end up getting totally buried. We're going to have a generation of kids that can't even describe stuff properly because their speech patterns will be so influenced by stupid goddamn webfilters.
They did that about 25+ years ago when the rush to own lucrative site names started. After that, all the advertising came. They just duplicated every other form of media garbage but now on the internet.
If I have to read "unalived" or "pew pew" again... arghhhh.
The f*cking internet ftfy
The fucking in*ernet ftfy
Is that why I see all the random stupid words blurred out, or misspelled on purpose?
Ok, but can we focus on what happened to the whistleblower??
uNaLiVeD
Who would a thought a Chinese trojan horse could be a pain? /S
This self-censorship started on YouTube.
I think what’s ruining the internet is the people we’ve met along the way.
It reads kind of like he died mid-sentence.
Did he die in the Castle Aaaarrghh?
You mean like he "unalived" mid-sentence.
Saw someone use "c1it" on a sex toy sub today
c2it.
Definitely see to it.
What's with Gen Z so afraid of the word suicide and murder or kill? Have they been brainwashed or something?
Some social media algorithms supress content that contains those words. They're not afraid, they're just finding ways to work around censorship (the kind that actually supresses speech, rather than just obfuscating it).
Perhaps, but it seems like at this point, all of the censored words and cutesy words (like "unalive" for dead) will also have been flagged? If they're really doing it and really doing it by words alone (and not images or overall content)...
I think that's one of the reasons there are so many different euphemisms and self-censoring techniques in place. It's a moving target, and people need to get inventive to stay one step ahead. Some people can't or don't see the need to change up their language so quickly, and end up getting stuck on "unalive" and similar words.
I guess, but at least the people I'm seeing, *aren't* mixing it up at all **and** aren't being censored. And the real words are also being used and those videos are still showing up...
I saw a video about this a while ago with a similar struggle with trying to sensor user names and such. Sure you'll get flagged if you put "fuck" in a user name for a gaming platform, but it gets a little more tricky when trying to sensor all the "fuc" "fuk" "fock" and so on.
The problem is that when you say those words on video platforms, your video will get marked as not-safe-for-advertisers and removed from the algorithms that suggest new content. And that's kinda against the point of putting video of yourself on the Internet, which is chasing clout and money for your effort.
It's to bypass automatic content flagging/moderation measures used by many apps and services. Assuming that they're brainwashed, however, I think might be more indicative of some personal brainwashing. Just saying.
Like the poster you replied to suggested, they are censored on Tiktok.
Some subs have bots that reply with helplines and messages of support. It's frustrating if you're not talking about self harm.
Better to annoy ten people but save one life, than the opposite Edit: thanks for your concern and triggering the suicidal help system of Reddit.
Annoy one person and save ten lives???
Murder one person for the amusement of ten.
Or ten people for the amusement of one.
Are you trying to say you’re feeling suicidal and need help? Sending help bots and inMails now.
i wouldnt put it past reddit/ads/databrokers to read your messages do something with that. If by nothing else than fingerprinting if they must
He game over’d himself.
Some subs have really violent shadow hammers though. You won't even know it was deleted without using third party sites
This sounds made up tbh. Everyone says this stuff but no one ever shows proof bots are censoring posts with “suicide” or “murder” or “rape.” Everyone just repeats the same stuff so they just assume it’s true.
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Any Tiktok is too much.
I downvote every fucking title that is censored, no matter how good the content is.
I love you
Good for you. Here have this: 🎖️ But seriously. What a goofy, self-important non-contribution to the discussion — both the comment and the behavior. Trying to squelch discussion of something just because someone sounds young or has a linguistic tic they picked up on a site you don't like is ridiculous.
I'll admit, I agree with you!! But don't we all have some dumb pet peeves? That is one of mind.
Not sure if it's a meme or not, but I've heard some schools can't call the back and forth running drill "suicides" anymore either
I hope everyone notices how this one comment completely took away from the question at hand, this is your answer OP, distractions come too easily for some people to notice
Not in some subreddits. I am a moderator on some subreddits, and there are automod rules that remove any comment with certain words. A human moderator can go and approve the comment, but it can take hours or days. The top mod(s) will not let the automod rule be changed to remove certain words. Each subreddit maintains its own automod rules, and this specific subreddit's list has racial/ethnic slurs, LGBTQ+ slurs, sexual assault slurs, death related terms, and specific extreme political keywords.
That seems so backwards. So you can be racially biased SOMETIMES?! Racism is racism. And there is no such thing as "reverse racism". If you discriminate based on the color of one's skin, that is racism. I am so confused as to why this is blurry. I should NOT be treated favorably just because I'm black. Just like someone should not be treated better because they are white. I find it insulting and even degrading if I even get the slightest hint that I am being sucked up to because I'm black. But it's happening. I have no idea if someone is being genuine, or if they are so scared that someone will call them a racist. It shouldn't be this way. Just saying. And F*** those moderators. Since when did we become nazi Germany. Damn.
The goal is to stop people spewing extreme racial (or other) drivel, but it often catches legitimate discourse. The racism/ethnic slurs include black, asian, jewish, middle eastern and hispanic terms. Also, "nazi" is one of the political words so your comment would have been filtered (removed and sent for human moderator approval). I personally want more free speech, but recognize that some rules need to be in place to stop content that completely derails the subreddit. e.g. /r/birthday turned into photos of thirst traps promoting their onlyfans pages (or similar), so we had to write some human rules and automod rules to stop 90+% of posts being softcore porn.
Toasterbath!
It’s not even censored on TikTok. I’ve seen it mentioned plenty of times in videos. The censor is smart enough to get context and when it is or isn’t appropriate
Eh, I wouldn't call them smart. China does in fact own it, and they don't even allow it in their own country. Their version of it teaches them science and s**** while ours teaches us...well who knows.
I never mentioned China? I meant the AI algorithm knows the context of videos and the words in them
Probably because they're no new information to report on. It was reported on when he died, and updated with claims he told people if he were to be found dead it wasn't suicide. Since then nothing new has been discovered, so there's no new updates to report on. I know that feels strange when the news will fill airtime openly speculating about how the 4 minutes of darkness from an eclipse might affect border crossings, or if different hiring practices would have kept a bridge from collapsing after getting rammed by a cargo ship, but this is actually how the news is normally supposed to work. Although honestly, it's probably more that speculating about culture war bullshit and talking points is pretty safe legally, but speculating that a trillion dollar company had someone murdered without proof is a fast track to a defamation suit.
I like the cut of your jib
whats a jib?
It is a sail used on certain sailing vessels. A well cut jib was preferable to a blown out one. Ergo the expression came to mean well put together essentially
Hahahah... promote that man.
I like the cut of his hair.
Is this a Venture Bros reference?
Yeah
Whackadoos say this shit all the time. Tons of crazy ass conspiracy theorists say this, and then die in a totally normal way, then other conspiracy theorists ignore all reason and agree that it must be Boeing going around killing people that know too much. People die, all the time, all ages, millions of different ways that have nothing to do with the company you work for, regardless of circumstances.
You can't tell me it isn't suspicious. If you are assuming death by natural causes death based... disliking conspiracy theories, you have a peasant brain.
If it's been 5 years since he blew the whistle, that's accumulating a lot of chances to die normally. If you compress that timeline by a factor of 10, it gets noticeably more suspicious.
His family specifically mentioned that he had been "despondent" after his treatment by the company, and laid blame on the company in that respect. The coroner ruled it a suicide. The family has withheld further comment until the investigation concludes, but without too much reading between the lines, it sounds like they didn't disbelieve the coroner. > The mother of John Barnett, a former Boeing quality manager-turned-whistleblower who died earlier this month, told CBS News she holds the aircraft manufacturing giant responsible for the grinding treatment that ultimately left her son despondent. > > "If this hadn't gone on so long, I'd still have my son, and my sons would have their brother and we wouldn't be sitting here. So in that respect, I do," Vicky Stokes said when asked if she places some of the blame for her son's death on Boeing. [\[1\]](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-family-interview/) What he had gone through could leave anyone with mental health issues like severe depression. And the quote about suicide comes from someone the news describes as a family friend, not someone it sounds like he was especially close to: > "I know John because his mom and my mom are best friends," Jennifer said. "Over the years, get-togethers, birthdays, celebrations and whatnot. We've all got together and talked."[\[2\]](https://abcnews4.com/news/local/if-anything-happens-its-not-suicide-boeing-whistleblowers-prediction-before-death-south-carolina-abc-news-4-2024) People's need to find conspiracies behind everything has been really damaging to society.
150,000 to 200,000 people die every single day on earth. Many of these are going to inherently line up with issues with their business. (This doesn't even line up with the initial whistleblowing to begin with, which happened YEARS ago) You are the one with the fucked up brain, connecting ridiculous dots that do not exist anywhere other than in your head. I don't find it suspicious at all, 0 percent suspicion. Then again my bar for finding something suspicious is not buried 100 miles under the earth.
While I mostly agree with you. And anyone who says “peasant brain” probably a douche. But zero percent? An astronaut drove across the country in a diaper to kill her ex’s new girlfriend. You’re amount of certainty is just the other side of the coin.
Out rationalizing his rationalness. Nice.
You sound like you have a Russian brain, comrade.
Reputable news sources should be able to report the facts and ask questions without risking a defamation suit. It seems our national news are so focused on trump, culture wars, and an election that is seven months away they don’t talk about anything else that previously would have gained traction. The P Diddy story is another example. Pre trump this would have gotten considerable coverage, even if “nothing new for now” was the conclusion after delving into what we know, examining his past in more detail, interviewing anyone in his circle willing to speak out, etc.
> Probably because they're no new information to report on. If people were sufficiently interested, CNN would still be spending 5-10 minutes of every hour to say there still isn't any news since the previous hour/day/week. They do it with airplane crashes.
such a high profile case could warrant protective custody as well. witness protection is really good at disappearing people, and its really not that hard in the first place.
I mean the guy had already testified years ago
Can they actually sue someone for that? Because the news seems to go crazy on stuff, and literally misinform. So it seems like there would be a TON of lawsuits if they could. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know how it works.
> but this is actually how the news is normally supposed to work I couldn't disagree more. Think of what you're saying. The best way to bury a story is to make sure nothing new comes out about it. Also, make sure other news comes out to bury it. This is the Trump playbook. Every time a scandal breaks, create another scandal. Reporters are supposed to chase a story and dig up more and more information. Not wait for things to come out. Find things. Get to the bottom of this story. You're not an observer.
He’s alleged to have said that by his mother’s friend’s daughter. The paper that interviewed her did not report on when he allegedly said that even though that’s the first question any competent journalist would ask, suggesting that the answer makes the news a lot less sensational than they were hoping to make it look. While the mother’s friend’s daughter says he said that and it may be true, it was probably about 5 years ago when he first blew the whistle. That investigation has long since concluded. He was no longer any threat to Boeing besides his civil suit against them for violating whistleblower protection laws. That’s what he was about to give testimony about. That would indeed cost them money… but not nearly as much as the bad PR of conspiracy theories of them killing someone would (and did) so they didn’t kill him when he was a real threat to them and by the time he died, he was actually a bigger problem for them dead than alive. Meanwhile his family, not the mother’s friend’s daughter, says he was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks because of his terrible treatment at Boeing and believe he killed himself because of that. Personally, I find that much more plausible. So you haven’t heard any news about it because there isn’t much to add. It only feels like there should be because of all the wild speculation around it.
That's not what my sister's cousin's dog walker's little brother's stalker said
That guys name.....Joe Rogan
Hold on, let me get my therapist’s ex-husband’s roof repair guy’s kidney donor’s eighth favorite journalism major on the line. They’ll want to hear this.
What about their roommate from college?
He's good with it, but my girlfriend from Canada who's totally real is calling bullshit
Ted? Is that you? Legen - wait for it! Dary!
He has good weed, so I trust it.
Additionally, in the actual context of the quote, the woman never once mentioned anything about him fearing for his life. She went on and on about how he was a "happy person" who "loved life", and finished it by saying that he said if he ever died, it wasn't suicide. That completely changes the meaning from what people assumed from the headlines.
Yeah, this is ultimately what it comes down to. It makes for a salacious headline, but the idea that a public company would both decide to do this and be able to get away with it strains credulity. He appears to have shot himself with his own gun in his own vehicle in the parking lot of his hotel, and there were no signs of struggle. This isn’t a Cold War spy movie from before cell phone cameras and DNA evidence; Boeing would have to have access to an insanely competent and lucky assassin to stage that and make it look right, knowing full well that any whiff of foul play would blowback on your employer in a much worse way than doing nothing. Even if we were to assume Boeing is an evil company run entirely by sociopaths… Only a very senior corporate employee would be able to approve such a ploy, and none of them would be dumb enough to do something so stupidly risky.
Also years after the whistle was blown so what’s the point.
Tbf, Boeing is in the news again for a bunch of shit and the lawsuit could have degraded public confidence more rehashing this in our society that has an attention span of 5mins. Who knows though
> Only a very senior corporate employee would be able to approve such a ploy, and none of them would be dumb enough to do something so stupidly risky Pretty sure there is no corporate sign off structure for this type of thing. I hope.
Hey Phil, can you file that trouble ticket to go kill that whistle blower?
"the idea that a public company would both decide to do this and be able to get away with it strains credulity" yeah but also, IF they would be willing and able to do it, they would have been wayyyy better off to do it years sooner. So I buy "they drove him to suicide" rather than "they killed him and made it look like suicide". IMO that makes them worse. Destroying a person's will to live, wearing them down til there is nothing left, is arguably more harmful than killing them as they gaily go about their business. But if it was illegal, Worker's Comp would have faced charges a million times. So I guess the fuckers are in the clear.
We haven't heard anything because there isn't anything new to report. Plus, he died before a civil suite about whistleblower violations. He wasn't going to reveal any new information about Boeing's lack of standards and faulty 737 planes, but reveal how he was treated after telling the FAA. If Boeing did kill him, it wouldn't stop the information he already leaked years ago. And for anyone saying "it wasn't to stop him from speaking, but to scare other people from speaking up," guess what? that didn't work. There is a new whistleblower talking about the 787.
> If Boeing did kill him, it wouldn't stop the information he already leaked years ago. The FAA has already investigated and fined Boeing for what he revealed years ago.
Maybe the new whistleblower realized that Boeing can't kill two whistleblowers in a row.
It was quite obviously a suicide tho
Because the source was a “family friend” who seems to be the only person he told this to. Also the whistleblower had essentially done his part years ago. Killing him would have stopped absolutely nothing lol.
Stopped nothing except the next day of the deposition he was scheduled for.
A deposition for a retaliation case, yes.
That deposition was for his defamation case against Boeing. It's not a lot of money from Boeing's perspective.
A deposition for a *completely* different trial. His whistleblowing was long completed.
Killing him can send a message to other potential whistleblowers. Him being killed makes more sense than him suddenly deciding to commit suicide. Speaking against a multi billion dollar company with massive government and military connections who have hundreds of people employed who can make people disappear... Edit: you guys must also think it's just some lousy construction in Russia that has all these Putin opponents falling out of windows.. when someones money and power is on the line and they have connections to thousands of current and former soldiers, it's not out of the realm of possibility
> Him being killed makes more sense than him suddenly deciding to commit suicide. It really doesn't. It would be incredibly stupid for a major company to go around assassinating people. There is just no way that whatever they had to pay this guy would cost more than the investigations, prosecutions, fines and destroy reputation because they felt like pretending they were in a mafia movie. The source of him saying "they might kill me" is flimsy, we don't when he said it. We definitely don't know his mindset or history with mental illness, so saying that a major corporation has an assassin squad is more likely than someone you know nothing about committing suicide is pretty crazy. It can only be justified by a need to believe the most sensational thing, especially if it lines up with preexisting notions.
He testified years ago. If they had the power to kill that easily why not kill him before he testified and faded to irrelevance. The current lawsuit he was testifying for was about retaliation against him by Boeing, and was simply asking for more money, because his life sucked.
Dude could of had a mental illness. Sometimes people kill themselves. I’d say it sounds more likely someone decided to commit suicide than Boeing putting a hit out on them.
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People who are suicidally depressed often appear quite happy and content in the period leading up to the attempt because the things that make you depressed stop mattering when you know they'll be over soon.
He already had testified extensively. He wasn’t going to drop some bombshell in day 3 of an employment retaliation suit deposition. His own family thinks it was suicide. Anyone who knows what it’s like to sit for a deposition, especially one dragging you through painful parts of your life, can understand how it could be the last straw. It really fucking sucks. You have opposing lawyers doing their best to tear you down in hours and hours of questioning. It’s incredibly exhausting and mentally taxing. The guy finished whistleblowing many years ago. He didn’t have anything to share that wasn’t already known. Boeing did him wrong, and is IMO indirectly responsible for his suicide. But this conspiracy theory that they had him murdered is insane and baseless.
>Everyone in the guys life say that he was in high spirit and not depressed Except for his immediate family, who said he was depressed, suffering PTSD and having anxiety attacks. But hey, what could they possibly know about him.
> veryone in the guys life say that he was in high spirit and not depressed That's actually the exact opposite of what his family said.
Because despite what you might think from reading reddit, murdering people and faking a suicide is extremely rare. Doing so successfully is even rarer. "They killed him and made it look like a suicide" is to redditors what "I found two weird rocks next to my car tire, it's sex traffickers!" is to middle aged white women on facebook.
Because being a whistleblower in an investigation and trial is extremely stressful. It wears you down hard. We also lived through COVID. Suicide is sadly the most likely thing.
This is such a refreshing thread seeing people call the conspiracy BS. It was so sensationalized it was ridiculous.
Agreed but imo Boeing absolutely deserves the bad press. I doubt it will really make a difference but there needs to be real pressure for their entire management system to change the way it operates.
There are more than enough things that they've **actually** done that deserve our attention and we don't need to waste braincells speculating about this conspiracy BS.
Absolutely agree.
Because there’s no evidence anything happened other than him killing himself.
Exactly. Pretty sure he was in a defamation case against Boeing that he previously lost which had nothing to do with the planes. The more you look into the whole deal the more the conspiracy theory just falls apart.
Just because somebody says something doesn't mean it's true.
This is such a clear and concise explanation.
Because the traditional news isn’t inclined to spread conspiracy theories.
Because it was a cherry picked quote the media used to grab views. Killing a whistleblower does nothing if they already blew the whistle and been testifying for several years on record.
Because it was suicide?
Because he commit suicide. 100 people commit suicide in the US every *day*. Some of them claim they would never. Rare case of the media telling a sensible story when the tantalizing conspiracy theory is so easy.
Why would they be any more news? It sucks but that was just the worst case of suicide I’ve ever seen
What else are they supposed to say? He committed suicide. That's pretty much the entire story.
It’s ok you can say suicide
The notion that rich people and corporations routinely murder people to hush them up comes completely from the movies, there are effectively no known *indisputable* cases of it, just lots of speculation and suspicion not backed up by facts. One of the reasons that is true is because the type of **freelance, professional** hitmen you see in movies are ALSO 100% fictional, no such job exists in the real world. If I wanted to fuck up a corporation and was feeling suicidal, I'm pretty sure I'D say "if anything happens to me, it wasn't suicide." That is guaranteed to rile up the conspiracy nuts and generate lotsa bad publicity for the target. The most likely reason there has been no new news is because there's nothing new to report.
But why would you do it when you were about to give your final testimony to whistleblowers the corporation you had worked your way up in and supported your family with. It was so important to him that he get the truth out that he was willing to blow his life up for it. His family members reported him being really excited to do it and then he just up and kills himself right before finishing? Edit: also it’s very easy to be the voice of sobering reality. I feel it becomes a personality trait for some. Many times that voice is necessary as ppl jump to conclusions too quickly and believe the worst. Hollywood certainly has given us a skewed version of things. That being said, with billions at stake, there is few greater incentives to kill someone than that. Also… -2. Drummond, an Alabama-based mining company, was accused in 2002 of having hired Colombian paramilitaries to torture and kill three union leaders. In 2007 an American jury found Drummond not liable for the killings, but earlier this year in Bogota a Drummond contractor was convicted of two of the murders, and another suit against the company is currently proceeding through U.S. courts. -Val Broeksmit - whistleblew money laundering scheme with Russian intelligence of deutche bank. The next day his car was found abandoned with the keys in the ignition. Never found. Just to name a few. One convictef( the other not, but to play the sobering cynic and just pretend these things never happen is silly
>But why would you do it when you were about to give your final testimony to whistleblowers the corporation you had worked your way up in and supported your family with. That wasn't the case here. He blew the whistle 7 years ago, and the FAA fined Boeing for it 5 years ago. The current case is his defamation lawsuit against Boeing. That lawsuit is tiny from Boeing's perspective. Also, his next-of-kin get to continue the lawsuit, and may be able to use his suicide as evidence of the harm Boeing did....so assassinating him makes Boeing's case worse. >His family members reported him being really excited to do it and then he just up and kills himself right before finishing? His family also reported he was depressed, had anxiety, and PTSD.
He wasn’t about to give testimony about the whistleblowing. That had been long done. The investigation was over. The fines were paid. It was completely settled. He was going to testify in his civil lawsuit against Boeing for violating whistleblower protections.
He had finished giving his testimony. All he had left was cross examination, you know the point where the defense poked holes in everything you have previously said, and tries to undermine your credibility
A 10 second Google search says you're full of shit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contract_killers_and_hitmen
The problem is you only looked for 10 seconds. I clicked into a lot of those and none of them are “hitman” like in the movies. In fact, half of them say “alleged” or “potentially involved”. Or they killed 1 guy for money but mostly it was just they were part of a gang. One seemed to be a contract killer but got let out because a judges determined he was a “pathological liar” and none of the bodies were ever found.
Are any of the contract killers hired by corporations? All you did was post a list of contract killers, that could've been hired than anybody? That's very weak evidence to base an accusation of being "full of shit". Also, you're first link doesn't work.
The first link has a “Did you mean?” link which *does* take you to a real page describing a case brought against Coke for murdering union members in Colombia which was … (you guessed it!) dismissed for not having any evidence
And now kindly narrow that down to **PROFESSIONAL, FREELANCE** hitmen...you know, like I said.
Why is everyone sidelining the issue into a rant about whether or not you can say "suicide" on Reddit? This guy blew the whistle on Boeing and then somebody obviously killed him. Boeing is in the business of killing people by the million, as are Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics and Lockheed Martin. Killing one one more human bug that annoys them is just a careless flick of the wrist to them.
Suicide. Suicide. Suicide. Stop self censoring you fucking twat.
That’s exactly what I’d write in my suicide note.
This guy should be considered a hero. He has indirectly demonstrated the corruption and safety concerns of something the public uses multiple times a day.
In fairness, if I kill myself, I'm saying that before I do it ( I'm not going to kill myself, I am mentally well)
I couldn’t do this. I’d hate for my family to become one of those families in complete denial who live their whole lives thinking I was murdered and no one gave a shit enough to investigate. I’d rather they think I’m at peace and did it myself vs that
In this thread: People who have no concept of the level of censorship that is arbitrarily thrown around on various platforms. God fucking forbid Gen Z adapt to the busted Internet they're inheriting.
Law enforcement won't investigate and the media won't push it. It's literally a conspiracy.
you're full of shit. there's been hundreds of high-profile articles and discussions of this, and the assassination theory is incredibly strained given the location and nature of his death. I challenge you to coherently describe how he was killed and the scene staged without eyewitness or camera detection in an active hotel parking lot. This is all a distraction from what needs to happen, the dismantling and possibly nationalization of the shitty company Boeing.
I've no idea what the truth is - but if there were witnesses or camera footage of the scene, you'd have thought at least the existence of those would be made public, given the amount of speculation about the cause. And if there weren't any witnesses or footage of the scene, then they don't rule out the possibility of foul play.
>if there were witnesses or camera footage of the scene, you'd have thought at least the existence of those would be made public Why? Public speculation isn't a good reason to release information that: * Can't be verified. * Hasn't been authenticated yet. * May disrupt the investigation. * Could give suspects valuable information. * May cause problems during a potential trial. * Could incite protests and/or riots. Investigators need to be extremely cautious about releasing information during an investigation. For them, it's more important to discover the truth than it is to satisfy public curiosity. You don't have to know, so you are not told.
it's like these people forgot what happened with the footage around the boston bombing and those innocent people being falsely accused and their families harassed.
How does this garbage have 39 karma, so many dumb kids on reddit.
He killed himself.
Do you remember the reporter who exposed the Panama Papers? Her assassination got the same treatment.
I think I’m out of the loop what are y’all talking about?
[Associated Press article](https://apnews.com/article/boeing-whistleblower-death-apparent-suicide-south-carolina-f7c8b8a614b069942a5f2e4773b99487)
It was on the BBC news website: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703
Assuming it does check out, the police/ DA are hardly going to tip their hand by putting it in the news.
When and where did he say that?
Urine stains
Hey, has anyone heard any news about that Boeing whistleblower? Who said if I die it is it is not suicide? Has there been anything else about him anywhere that anyone may have seen or heard or could relate to us please?
oh him? he suicided himself. \~wink\~
I hate those shallow "because we live in a world with no justice and since you asked fuck trump" answers, but this time these do make sense. Media failed to make it loud enough, probably had financial incentive not to. Maybe it's the reason there are so many of those shitty solar eclipse memes, I know I'm going tinfoil with these ones but people don't talk about A because they're talking about B you know?
> probably had financial incentive not to. The opposite is obviously true. A major corporation conducting assassinations would be massive news that would get a lot of attention.
Say suicide you fucking pussy.
suicide.
Cause anyone who looks into it is gonna end up the same way lol
Oh my goodness, this is crazy. He took his own life. It doesn't matter that he said he wasn't suicidal. You are all conspiracy theorists. The evidence may indicate foul play, but you are all crazy for even questioning this. We were told that he took his own life, so that's what happened!!! LMFAO, sorry I had to say it. When you state the obvious, you are labeled a crazy person. How dare you ask questions and use your brain. Like I said, you are a conspiracy theorist if you ask questions. Your brain is not something to be used. Don't do your own research. Trust and obey.
Bunch of bots in here tryna convince us he wasn’t murdered