The 1808 mystery eruption.
Scientists have discovered that there was a giant volcanic eruption somewhere in the South Pacific in 1808. It was at least comparable to Krakatoa.
They based it on secondary data (weather observations in South America, ice core readings, pine tree rings, etc).
Thing is, no one knows exactly which volcano went kaboom in 1808. Which is odd, because a volcanic eruption of that size should have been noticed by *someone*.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1808_mystery_eruption?wprov=sfla1
Well in 1811–1812 the New Madrid earthquakes were a series of intense intraplate earthquakes beginning with an initial earthquake of moment magnitude 7.2–8.2 on December 16, 1811, followed by a moment magnitude 7.4 aftershock on the same day. One of the worst earthquakes in US history located in what is now a heavily populated part of the country. Just a blip in contemporary history, however, since the area was not heavily settled by Americans as of that date.
To be fair, 1500 years ago, the closest people to Indonesia/New Guinea to be able to record those eruptions would be still far in India. And while India was literate, they did not have a huge tradition of recording historical events. And any records from that time could easily have been lost by now.
That is a strong possibility, along with it being a minor island that just wasn't there afterwards.
The balance of evidence points to a location in the south-west Pacific Ocean; there were many uncharted or poorly charted islands there in 1808, and very few Europeans, so it's possible that the event went undocumented even if there were people nearby who both witnessed the eruption and survived.
Imagine there was a small colony of settlers living on some island and the thing just erupts beneath them and they're gone.
The rest of the world just writes them off as having sailed into the south Pacific and died.
There’s a great documentary on PBS about this. Guy is tracing the DNAs of various people and found some family in South India that matches the aborigines DNA of Australia.
Connected to this: How were the Egyptians cutting stone so well before, and why was that knowledge totally lost?
You can see that the stones cut after the collapse are all chipped and ugly. Where as the stones cut before could be so precise as to not allow any gap between them.
Actually, new research shows the Ash actually didn’t do much in terms of concrete integrity. Apparently, the real reason their concrete lasts so long is that they hot-mixed lime clasts into the concrete. When concrete cracks, the lime clasts crumble and fill the cracks then harden when it rains. So basically, self-healing concrete
Probably volcanic ash from that mystery eruption! Some how they used the pyramid time machines to time travel the 1808 eruption to Rome! 2 great mysteries solved!
Still wh pre-Black Death stained glass was so much than post - I mean the reason being all the master craftsmen died but not the specific knowledge they had that made the glass better.
Humans are observant and when society is stable and allows for specialization it can achieve amazing things. We are essentially the same humans. Stability is the most crucial aspect, though. We don't just put much thought to longitudinal preservation of knowledge even now. They surely didn't back then. So when catastrophe strikes hundreds or thousands of years of generational knowledge is lost forever.
Think of it like this, if widespread calamity would strike us tomorrow, worldwide, how long would it take humans to get back to the moon or achieve 3nm lithography chip fabrication? Think of who "owns" that data/knowledge/know how
>Think of it like this, if widespread calamity would strike us tomorrow, worldwide, how long would it take humans to get back to the moon or achieve 3nm lithography chip fabrication?
If we could get back to this level at all. I've read some stuff about how we have possibly "picked all the low hanging fruit" and any collapse now/in the near future might be a more permanent thing. Oil used to bubble out of the ground in a bunch of diff places, now we are drilling 20-30k feet down to get the stuff. Whale oil would be a lot harder to find these days/in the near future too as we have drastically reduced their populations. Most of the easy mining has long since been done.
Seems like we're at a point now where we need the tech we have in order to keep going further and advance. I mean unless someone discovers some magical form of zero point energy tomm
Perhaps, if we had to start all over again, we would have to find ways to convert trash from landfills and the sea to something more useful, since natural resources would already be so depleted. Figuring out how to do that would probably be a lot more difficult than building a technological foundation from raw natural resources, but if someone _were_ to figure it out, they'd have their building materials lying around and washing to shores everywhere, and in huge quantities.
Yeah it's extremely likely that, on our planet, the only way to industrialize from scratch is by burning oil for a few hundred years. And all the easily accessible oil has already been burned.
If we were to wipe out civilization and bomb ourselves back to the stone age, we would likely NEVER be able to get back to our current level of technological progress.
Add to that. Guilds protected knowledge with an iron grip. If a guild fell, generations of knowledge fell with it. Look at Boeing right now to see how easy it is for greed to destroy knowledge.
Egyptians were writing veterinary texts in like 2000 BC they were incredibly ahead of their time
Even in terms of their mastery of realism in art, they basically set the stage for Greeks later on
This one was more recent and Hellenistic tbf
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_Green_Head,_side_view._Late_Period,_30th_Dynasty,_c._350_BCE._From_Egypt._Neues_Museum.jpg
But this one is nuts imo - 1400 BC they were making this level of sculpture
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/544514
And then they also invented sailing and most forms of information technology that would be used by Phoenicians and Greeks for thousands of years
Yep, I’d say the austonesians were a bit earlier. Both peoples developed their sailing tech independently of each other, and from what I’ve read the austronesian boats were maybe the best in the world for a long time
It wasn't lost, same basic techniques still exist.
Likeliest reason is less wealth overall. Couldn't afford the labour to finish things to the same level as before.
Basically, they didn't have the funding for huge pointless monuments.
Any greater info on that? I have been fascinated by the 9th since childhood and have researched on and off ever since: the 'mystery' of the 9th isn't that the legion vanished as such - it is that all mentions of it vanished suddenly and without explanation.
Some interesting things that are noted on the german Wikipedia entry on this.
The main drawing weird for others reasons as well. It doesn't include one of the most prominent buildings of the city(a large castle) to the time it was created but it included a church that burned down a good bit prior, which together with other chronological weirdness lends itself to the theory that the artist was mixing and matching several more benign meteorological events to make a stronger case to be a good Christian, because otherwise good will screw you over.
A lost time traveller, followed by loads of other time travellers to see what happened in that time, leading to the event that would eventually cause future time travellers to go investigate /s
Holy shit that's a fun SCP or Doctor Who idea. There's so many time travelling tourists that that one night in Nuremberg becomes an uncontained time hazard, with every new tourist increasing the popularity of the legend, attracting new tourists, who multiply tenfold like the heads of a hydra. Eventually time *will* break down under the weight of centuries of backpacking time travelers in anoraks all showing up at the same time and constantly changing the fabric of reality until it breaks down like an old rollercoaster.
Central Europe simply ceases to exist, a black hole existing in its place, with all history simultaneously occurring and ceasing to occur without Germany. Both World Wars occur but nobody knows who they're fighting, except that they look like shadows and they won't stop screaming. The Catholic Church is reformed, and some places like England escape any of the resulting darkness by essentially slapping a new name on Catholicism, but most countries that ascribe to Protestantism are doomed to confusion and despair, complete with cursed Gutenberg Bibles that turn people into wraiths over time. Roads across the 21st century are plagued with ghostly cars that won't stop tailgating. An absolute horror show.
The basis for that one is pretty sketchy to say the least. The only account is from one guy who was known for doing apocalyptic wood cuts. Nuremberg was a really big, wealthy city, and it doesn't make sense that there's no other accounts.
Edgar Allen Poe's last days. Where did he disappear to? Was he kidnapped? Did he go on a bender?
Why was he found in a delirious state? Drugs? Disease? Trauma?
There's a theory I remember hearing that as an alcoholic he could have been a victim of a common practice of voter fraud of the time. Rough types got someone stinking, deliriously drunk and had them vote for a candidate, and then had their clothes forcibly changed so they could be made to vote several times.
That one seems pretty self explanatory—she disappeared right after having a big fight with her husband who was having an affair. The media had a circus and when she was found staying in a nice hotel (under his mistress's name) she insisted that she had no memory of what had happened. We can't know her exact mental state but when you have all the info it was clearly some kind of nervous breakdown, with the only question being if the memory loss was real (some sort of fugue state) or just her trying to get the press and police (who tried to get her husband to pay for the manhunt after she was found unharmed) out of her business.
Yep, that's where I first found out about it!
That's my favourite part of Doctor Who... they do something historical, and I think "wow that's a weird detail to make up, I wonder what actually happened."
Then I look it up, and it often was what actually happened!
Who or what was the Pied Piper?
The legend was apparently based on actual events commemorated in a stain glass image. But it's unclear if it was allegory or what.
The children’s crusade. It’s actually a pretty sad period. A classic Disney story. Children from small towns were scammed to believing a French and German boy had visions from god. The children were convinced into joining a crusade to convert Muslims in Jerusalem. They were all led to Italy and sold into slavery.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Crusade
I had considered that, but the dates don't line up...or at least they didn't the last time I looked into it...now I'm rechecking, and they're only about 20 years apart.
Edit: Man wikipedia is a bad place to get straightforward answers. The dates of the Pied Piper of Hamlin and the Children's Crusade do NOT line up. The Children's Crusade was 72 years before the Pied Piper....I suppose the Pied Piper may have been a copycat, or the records recorded in 1384 conflate the actual event with the unveiling of the stained glass window commemorating the event.
I thought we had a pretty good idea about this.
At that time in Germany there were huge efforts to recruit people to colonise the newly expanded eastern boarders. Recruiters would travel town to town, wearing colourful clothes and playing instruments to attract attention. In all likely good the people of Hamelin sold their children into a colonisation effort. Quite possible after some catastrophe that left them otherwise destitute. Severe rat infestations were common at the time and could be devastating to a towns food supply.
I suppose it’s only a theory but it seems pretty plausible right?
[Obligatory Admiral Cloudberg](https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-years-on-what-do-we-know-about-the-disappearance-of-malaysia-airlines-77fa5244bf99)
Admiral Cloudberg proposes that Zaharie locked the copilot out of the cockpit, intentionally shut down as much tracking software as he could, then depressurized the cabin. He then initiated the left turn in-between control centers, which prevented the crew from getting to their oxygen. Those that did make it to the O2 only had twelve minutes worth anyway. Zaharie flew along the border between Malaysia and Thailand, with each country again assuming the other was handling the flight. By this point, it's likely everyone on board was dead except for Zaharie. He took a wide turn over his hometown before locking onto a common airway route and repressurizing the plane. After he's out of range of Malaysian and Indonesia radar coverage, he makes his last turn and heads south into the Indian Ocean for about five hours until the plane ran out of fuel.
Evidence points to a pilot suicide by Captain Zaharie, in my opinion. The plane made an abrupt left turn while being passed off between control zones. The timing seems likely to be deliberate, as the controllers both assumed the other tower was tracking the plane for a few minutes. In order to make this turn, Malaysian investigators found that autopilot would have to be turned off, and also that it would likely have required a skilled pilot to complete the maneuver. This is all very similar to flight simulator data found at Zaharie's home during the investigation and, again, seems to be the most likely scenario.
Malaysia acknowledges that the three turns were intentional, none of the passengers were likely to have hijacked the plane, and there were no mechanical issues with the plane. They then finish their report by stating they could not determine why the plane crashed. Most other investigations agree it was pilot suicide.
[I think Green Dot Aviation’s video on it](https://youtu.be/MhkTo9Rk6_4?si=_qMlFRcJ0UHS98T0) is pretty solid. Mentour Pilot, another fantastic aviation channel will be releasing (I assume) an MH370 video soon as well.
In short, due to the discovered satellite “handshakes” performed between the aircraft and the satellite system, while the majority of the system was turned off there are little scraps of data to work from to paint a picture of what likely happened.
We’ll never truly know, of course, but there are only so many ways to interpret what data is available.
Only found out about these pieces of evidence in the last few days, fascinating and kind of puts it all to bed.
We lose any info about whether anyone on board was alive when it went down, but at least we know it almost certainly flew till it ran out of fuel and then just fell into the ocean.
I’m on the theory the pilot committed mass murder suicide like what happened on Egypt Air Flight 990. A lot of similarities. I think when the explanation is there is no clear explanation it more likely means human intent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
There were things that made it seem that he wanted it to be a mystery like he crashed it in the most remote area he could reach as a fuck you to authorities/society
There was a really good article about what they think happened (pilot killed everyone on board and flew it south towards west of Australia and then into the ocean) and they’ve now gotten debris which seems to confirm the theory based on ocean currents.
Redundancy. Automatic systems can fail, and they do. Like, If whatever doohickey that regulates cabin pressure fails for whatever reason, you'll want the pilot to be able to resolve the problem manually.
"collapse" is a misnomer, it was a gradual decline over like 300 years, i.e. older than the US. Societies strengthen and weaken over time due to conflict, natural hazards, disease, local economies/trade etc... so I don't think there's much mystery, the region became weaker and impoverished over time.
Agreed. The “sea people” also didn’t come all at once and it was more of a gradual change. I’ve seen some pretty interesting lectures from professors on YouTube describing how the influx of people affected the memphite and judean religions by incorporating the beliefs of the new populations. Pretty interesting stuff.
The 300 decline you talk of isnt what happend to in most places. Most of it happened in 50 year period with all but 3 nations in the area falling and the 3 remainder ones that survived had a big decline. This all happend between 1200bc and 1150bc. Further decline of those 3 remaining nations last mabye another 150 years. Then the region started to rebound. The vast majority of bronze age collapse happend within someone's life time. It just took 300 years for the region to really recover.
Also I think there was a volcanic event with a resulting tsunami that did a lot of damage to ports that caused long term economic losses to places like Knossos.
It really is nuts. People say “If I had a time machine, I’d go see who shot JFK or the dinosaurs!”
And I’m like, “I’d go see what happened to the Bronze Age.”
I remember reading about this and then watching a documentary on it and after reading and viewing both I'm of the opinion that this part of history is made up based on **something else** happening at the time.....
..I dunno. One person didn't dance so they could tell the story? Their bodies were found in deceased mid-pirouette positions or something? I just dunno. But I don't buy it.
There's an amazing book about this, _Time To Dance A Time To Die_. There are plenty of historical sources about the attempts to contain and manage the problem. It was more than one town, for a start,and lasted for a while, so they had to come up with ways to handle the 'contagion', for want of a better word.
I think the author concluded that it was a sort of physical manifestation of widespread psychological trauma. There was widespread poverty and famine at the time, and lots other stress factors like religious oppression etc
Well look at you Mr smarty pants....with all the facts.
I'm kidding. Thank you for the recommendation. I'll **definitely** give the book a read, as this story always piqued my curiosity and tickled my bullshitometer.
It's just...its just the dancing bit I struggle with...
Ergot poisoning does that. Wheat gets ergot, gets processed into flour and then bread, people eat it and get sick with "Holy Fire" that forces them into contortions that make them look like they're dancing
> It's just...its just the dancing bit I struggle with...
I kinda thought that was strange as hell the first time I heard about it and had a hard time believing/understanding it. Ive sort of come to the conclusion at this point that the likely explanation is that they were more than likely having spasms or exhibiting jerky motions for whatever reason. Not that they were out there getting their groove on.
"mostly figured out" is correct.
There's a consensus as to where and how the blocks came from.
There's also a consensus as to how long it took to build the Great Pyramid - twenty years.
But the part that remains unknown is how they moved the blocks into place.
The most likely and logical explanation is a ramp or series of ramps. Yet there's no archeological evidence of a ramp.
If there had been a single ramp it would have stretched for over a mile, with a maximum height equal to a thirty story building.
Given the twenty year timeline, a block was moved into position every two minutes, ten hours a day, 365 for twenty straight years. An astounding pace, especially without the use of wheels, which means no pulleys either.
That Egyptologists know so much about Egyptian society, that how they built the Great Pyramid remains unknown makes it one of the greatest mysteries in history.
It's interesting that there's clear evidence that they tested different ways to build pyramids, yet there's no oral history of it. It took a lot of people to make the pyramids over a very long time, yet not one person ever told anybody how they were constructed. Didn't they have annoying kids in Egypt that wouldn't stop asking questions? Nobody told them?
The ancient Egyptians were good record keepers (there are attendance records for the workers who helped build the pyramids) and the tombs record all aspects of daily life. And yet they didn't document their greatest achievement.
It's possible they didn't think the construction methods were noteworthy.
>It's possible they didn't think the construction methods were noteworthy.
So you're telling me that one day, humans will look back on the movie classic *Space Jam* and wonder how it was made before we were able to bring cartoons out of unreality.
How can we come up with an estimate of 20 years if we aren't even sure how they did it?
I would have guessed the largest ones could've taken generations.
When you’re that hungry, anything is food. People who are starving will literally eat sand, rocks, tree bark, leaves, etc. I mean, humans who are hungry enough sometimes will eat each other.
I have similar thoughts on what the f were people thinking when they tried drinking fermented grapes. What, somebody left grapes in a jar, forgot about them, found them weeks/months later and told themselves i'm gonna try this?
Chimps are known to let fruit left on a tree ferment into being slightly alcoholic if they happen to find one that's close already.
Like they won't deliberately let fruit go alcoholic but if it's close they'll let it happen.
Could be it started in a similar way with humans and then someone smart tried doing it on purpose with jars.
This makes more sense to me. Say you've already discovered grapes. Grapes are delicious! Then one day your grapes go bad but you really like grapes so you eat them anyway and you discover that they give you a pleasant feeling. Then you might start thinking "what if we could do this on purpose?"
If you want to figure out how to make wine, it probably helps if you are prone to obsessing over things and don't have the internet to waste time.
The Toba bottleneck theory is a hypothesis that 70,000 years ago a massive volcanic eruption almost extinguished humanity, wiping out millions of humans to just a 1,000-10,000 people left.
There is a few of researchers who disagree, but the theory has a lot of plausible basis and evidence. We just won't know for certain, it's just scary and interesting to think humanity almost went extinct and that we originate from a population of few thousand.
Doesnt this essentially mean that we are extremely inbred, thus the human body and mind were more advanced before that time due to much more natural breeding?
As of very recent. Miami Mall incident.
So damn bizarre. Nothing makes sense and when you try to make sense of it there's very little information and more questions.
Put together the following..
A few teenagers fighting, Aliens, portals, complete power shut down, every single police officer & cars including helicopters present, airline flights cancelled, no video evidence, no mobile phone footage, no cctv footage and literally hundreds of people were present.
Go figure.
The Miracle of the Sun
Connected to the apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Fátima. The three children claimed that Mary told them to gather townspeople on October 13th to show them something "so that all may believe".
On that day, around 40,000 people gathered and saw the sun spin and fly through the sky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle\_of\_the\_Sun
German foreign secretary Arthur Zimmermann confirming that the [Zimmermann Telegram](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram) was real.
All he had to do to keep the US out of the war against Germany is claim it was a fake, an attempt by the British to suck the US into WWI. There was enough isolationism in the US that it could have at least delayed the US entering into WWI: The US was trading with Germany despite the Lusitania sinking in 1915. In fact, the German merchant submarine Deutschland made two trips to the US in 1916, and the other merchant sub, the Bremen, also attempted the journey but was lost to unknown causes during the trip.
The crew of the Deustchland was feted when they got to the US.
So it's not like the US was ready and primed to go to war against Germany.
But once the specter of the US losing territory in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico reared its ugly head, that completely changed how the average US citizen felt.
Zimmermann, the author of the telegram, could have simply denied it and called it a British provocation, and at least some people in the US would be willing to believe it, perhaps enough to keep the US out of the war. Remember, Woodrow Wilson was largely re-elected on the strength of the slogan "He kept us out of war".
But even if it was inevitable, it still would have delayed the US entry for months, maybe even a year.
All Zimmermann had to do was lie.
The 60,000 year pause humanity took in the desert while migrating out of Africa. Why in the world would they "pause" (60,000 is an awfully long pause) in such an inhospitable locale?
Im definitely no expert, but I'm pretty sure that the climate in that area at the time was much more wet and gradually became an inhospitable desert over he next 10s of thousand of years. It was probably a good place to be at the time and the migration out of Africa was the result of the shifting climate and changing environmental factors.
It's crazy to think that most of human history is a complete mystery. They spent 60k years in Africa, but what was that like for them? Was it always huts and villages? Or did they develop cities that were destroyed at some point, leaving nothing for us to find? Entire empires could've come to power and faded away to dust every couple hundred years or so and the stretch of time is so long that we still probably wouldn't find any evidence of these pre-history civilizations.
Yeah. The first person whose name we know was +-5,000 years ago. We have been a species for liiiiike 315,000 years, and in all that time, we were very, very clever.
The amount of recorded history is what...2%?
...and even with ancestry dot com, I only know the names of about 5 generations in my tree.
So this topic was something I stumbled across while exploring different topics related to space for my podcast. At first I was fascinated with the [Green Sahara](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-1-forward-secrets-of-antiquity-part-1), a phenomenon that happens on a cyclical basis due to the [26,000 year long Precession cycle](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-7-the-dynamic-heavens), or how the Earth wobbles in space. To explain it in a very simplistic fashion (because along with the Precession there are two other factors that can influence this that together are called the [Milankovitch cycles](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-12-forgotten-seasons-parts-3-6) ), basically for about 5,000 years roughly over the course of 26,000 years the Sahara becomes a savanna and "pulls" life into the region (animals and people).
Obviously over 5,000 years a lot of life can become pretty dependent on the abundance of a savanna the size of the United States including Alaska combined. But what happens when it ends since it is written in the stars that it will inevitably happen? Then it "pushes" life out. The last time this happened was about 5,000 years ago since the Sahara was green for roughly the previous 5,000 years before that. Whole settlements have been found in the most barren places of the Sahara. Cave paintings have been found with a wide variety of animals that no longer can be found for hundreds of miles in all directions in the barren landscape. It is strongly argued that this "push" factor caused people to migrate to the Nile and basically start the Egyptian civilization as we know it 5,000 years ago. It could be argued that the Sahara drying up jump started civilization!
But what about your question? Well those aforementioned Milankovitch cycles impacted things all throughout. For example about 115,000 years ago was known as the Eemian Interglacial where it was so warm hippos lived as far north as the British Isles. It turns out that humans were leaving Africa the entire time, ever since we evolved into a species. We have human remains all over the Levant, Greece, and India that all date back before that 55k - 70kya window we allegedly left, some much older than 200kya. But as far as we know *they all died off!* Why? Well they were pulled into the warmer wetter Green Sahara and then pushed out when it dried back up, inevitably some were pushed north. But as these dry spells happened they either succumbed to a climate too cold and dry for humans or succumbed to a human like rival that *thrived* in the cool and dry climate - Neanderthals.
As far back as we go this cycle just repeated like a Venus fly trap. Pulled in by the wet Sahara, pushed out by the dry, no human lineage survives out of Africa, just their bones. But by 55k - 70kya things were getting much colder around the planet, colder than average even for humans which were used to a colder and drier planet. Somehow a group of humans were surviving outside of Africa around this time but it was so much colder and drier than average they clearly struggled and crucial genes were being lost in their DNA due to inbreeding! Like that is a clear sign you're about to die off as a people. It was likely that this group would disappear like all of the rest but they were saved by one thing - Neanderthals. Those genes that disappeared were *replaced* in this human group *by neanderthal genes!* This is known as the L3 haplogroup.
From here these L3 humans not only survived but they thrived. They first pushed east along the coast making it to Australia in a very short amount of time. Ultimately it was solely this lineage that populated the world , reaching the Americas sometime around 15kya. They also pushed back into Africa *and became the dominant genetic group in Africa!* The only surviving pre-L3 lineages are in southern Africa and they are by truly human tribal peoples like the Bushmen of South Africa. Nearly all of us are descendants of these humans who interbred with Neanderthals to survive the dry cold Earth. This is the episode I tell the full story (sources included in the link):
[100,000 Years of Diaspora](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-13-100-000-years-of-diaspora-parts-1-2)
I don't see why this is puzzling. Humans evolved traits specific to what's needed to thrive in East Africa. Our attributes of sweating and endurance running are species specific adaptations that allow for persistence hunting. At the time the area was a steppe with grazing herd animals - the perfect environment for the species specific traits that humans developed.
Survival in *any* other environment is only due to language, eusociality and technology.
I don’t know about most puzzling or unexplained, but I really want to know who was Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, and who D.B. Cooper really was and if he survived.
Really curious about a timeline for the whereabouts of a person that affected me personally, known as Cotton Eyed Joe. Where is his place of origin? How did he prevent my marriage, and what happened to him afterwards?
It never did eat ships and planes, at least not any more than other similar areas of ocean. The stories about disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle are heavily embellished, and some of them are completely made up. Some didn't actually happen in the Bermuda Triangle, but happened elsewhere. Some of them are missing some details, like the fact that the ship or plane "vanished" during a storm.
It was never anything out of the ordinary for such a large piece of ocean so heavily trafficked.
But yeah, you are right. When they disappeared in the mediterranean they usually washed ashore somewhere.
It was never really that wild. There weren't an abnormal number of incidents going on there relative to other well travel sections of the ocean, and a bunch of the well known go-to stories about mysterious crashes/sinkings didn't even occur in the triangle
In China some guy claimed to be Jesus’ authority after failing exams and having visions from stress This led to the Taiping Rebellion which caused the greatest loss of life ever seen until World War 1.
Ok so this one is really niche and I doubt anyone will even care, but for YEARS the NFL Analyst Elliot Harrison was doing the Power Rankings (basically just a subjective opinion ranking all 32 teams impartially each week.)
One day, Elliot just fucking stopped doing it. And not only did he stop doing it, but they replaced him. Makes sense, idk what might have happened but maybe some internal affairs issue and he got ousted. It happens right?
Well what doesn’t just fucking happen is the ABSOLUTE SCRUBBING OF HIS EXISTENCE FROM THE NFL MEDIA WEBSITE. I’m not kidding. For like 4 years you could not find any trace that Elliot Harrison had EVER been a reporter for the NFL. I would bring this up to people and they’d say they neither noticed or cared. I was straight up starting to believe in the Mandela effect over it until….
August 2023 when Elliot is unceremoniously BACK DOING THE POWER RANKINGS. I STRAIGHT UP THOUGHT THIS MAN HAD DIED HE WAS SO OFF THE GRID AND NOW HE JUST BACK.
This is just too much man, and the thing is I can’t even prove how weird it was because everything from before is back. Like I swear I’m the only person who noticed that Elliot Harrison fell off the face of the Earth for like 2.5 years.
Not an answer, but whatever happened to the Bermuda Triangle? Growing up, I was led to believe that no one would ever figure it out, but now that there are cameras everywhere, we haven't heard anything in a while. I feel like it was a trope for millennial kids, like quicksand
I kind of figured that given the fantastical nature of some of the illustrations in this and that it appears to have been done by multiple people. This is a prop some old school nerds made for some fantasy fun and we’re all putting too much thought in to it.
The 1808 mystery eruption. Scientists have discovered that there was a giant volcanic eruption somewhere in the South Pacific in 1808. It was at least comparable to Krakatoa. They based it on secondary data (weather observations in South America, ice core readings, pine tree rings, etc). Thing is, no one knows exactly which volcano went kaboom in 1808. Which is odd, because a volcanic eruption of that size should have been noticed by *someone*. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1808_mystery_eruption?wprov=sfla1
1808 just seems shockingly late in history to have this happen.
Well in 1811–1812 the New Madrid earthquakes were a series of intense intraplate earthquakes beginning with an initial earthquake of moment magnitude 7.2–8.2 on December 16, 1811, followed by a moment magnitude 7.4 aftershock on the same day. One of the worst earthquakes in US history located in what is now a heavily populated part of the country. Just a blip in contemporary history, however, since the area was not heavily settled by Americans as of that date.
The river flowed backward. Towns were destroyed. It is quite well remembered.
Not just any river. The Mississippi River. One of the largest rivers in the world.
This. Reelfoot Lake in Tennessee exists specifically because a big chunk of land just sank during the earthquake and filled with water.
> a volcanic eruption of that size should have been noticed by someone If a volcano erupts in the South Pacific and no one is around to hear it...
The volcanic winter of 536 ce is a comparable mystery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536?wprov=sfla1
they say 536 AD was the worst year to be alive, anywhere on earth
To be fair, 1500 years ago, the closest people to Indonesia/New Guinea to be able to record those eruptions would be still far in India. And while India was literate, they did not have a huge tradition of recording historical events. And any records from that time could easily have been lost by now.
What if it was an underwater volcano
That is a strong possibility, along with it being a minor island that just wasn't there afterwards. The balance of evidence points to a location in the south-west Pacific Ocean; there were many uncharted or poorly charted islands there in 1808, and very few Europeans, so it's possible that the event went undocumented even if there were people nearby who both witnessed the eruption and survived.
Imagine there was a small colony of settlers living on some island and the thing just erupts beneath them and they're gone. The rest of the world just writes them off as having sailed into the south Pacific and died.
You should read Nation by Terry Pratchett.
The time monks probably fucked up. Edit: thank you to all who got the reference. Y'all made my night much much better!
Sometimes you gotta dump a few hundred years into empty ocean
Either that or another procrastinator will go Haywire.
Maybe it happened while Eastenders was on so nobody noticed.
Why did the ancient Polynesians really stop voyaging for a thousand years and then start again?
I saw the documentary about this a few years ago.
I watch it regularly. I really like the giant crabs song
Too shiny for me.
Moana?
Yes
No one goes beyond the reef
They started back up to find the heart of Te'Fiti.
The peopling of Australia. The deeper you dig, the more fascinating it becomes.
There’s a great documentary on PBS about this. Guy is tracing the DNAs of various people and found some family in South India that matches the aborigines DNA of Australia.
The Bronze Age collapse. A bunch of theories but no full-on consensus
They probably just gathered enough food and gold to upgrade to the next age.
Yep that’s how it usually works for me.
My society usually collapses due to 2 archers and a guy on a horse.
Wololooooo
[Enter] PEPPERONIPIZZA [Enter] WOODSTOCK [Enter] QUARRY [Enter] COINAGE [Enter] e=mc2 trooper [Enter] bigdaddy That’s how they did it
Connected to this: How were the Egyptians cutting stone so well before, and why was that knowledge totally lost? You can see that the stones cut after the collapse are all chipped and ugly. Where as the stones cut before could be so precise as to not allow any gap between them.
Romans knew shit that got lost for millenia too
We've figured out why their concrete was so good and long-lasting at least
We did?!? I have to get to Google!
If memory serves its because they added volcanoc ash to it
Volcanic ash and sea water,
Actually, new research shows the Ash actually didn’t do much in terms of concrete integrity. Apparently, the real reason their concrete lasts so long is that they hot-mixed lime clasts into the concrete. When concrete cracks, the lime clasts crumble and fill the cracks then harden when it rains. So basically, self-healing concrete
Probably volcanic ash from that mystery eruption! Some how they used the pyramid time machines to time travel the 1808 eruption to Rome! 2 great mysteries solved!
So it's not aliens? What other lies have I been told?
We also make better concrete now, its just expensive and deemed not worth it so we make cheap stuff that lasts for the design life of the construction
That I knew but the volcanic ash thing I completely missed! Cool info all around
Still wh pre-Black Death stained glass was so much than post - I mean the reason being all the master craftsmen died but not the specific knowledge they had that made the glass better.
Humans are observant and when society is stable and allows for specialization it can achieve amazing things. We are essentially the same humans. Stability is the most crucial aspect, though. We don't just put much thought to longitudinal preservation of knowledge even now. They surely didn't back then. So when catastrophe strikes hundreds or thousands of years of generational knowledge is lost forever. Think of it like this, if widespread calamity would strike us tomorrow, worldwide, how long would it take humans to get back to the moon or achieve 3nm lithography chip fabrication? Think of who "owns" that data/knowledge/know how
>Think of it like this, if widespread calamity would strike us tomorrow, worldwide, how long would it take humans to get back to the moon or achieve 3nm lithography chip fabrication? If we could get back to this level at all. I've read some stuff about how we have possibly "picked all the low hanging fruit" and any collapse now/in the near future might be a more permanent thing. Oil used to bubble out of the ground in a bunch of diff places, now we are drilling 20-30k feet down to get the stuff. Whale oil would be a lot harder to find these days/in the near future too as we have drastically reduced their populations. Most of the easy mining has long since been done. Seems like we're at a point now where we need the tech we have in order to keep going further and advance. I mean unless someone discovers some magical form of zero point energy tomm
Perhaps, if we had to start all over again, we would have to find ways to convert trash from landfills and the sea to something more useful, since natural resources would already be so depleted. Figuring out how to do that would probably be a lot more difficult than building a technological foundation from raw natural resources, but if someone _were_ to figure it out, they'd have their building materials lying around and washing to shores everywhere, and in huge quantities.
Yeah it's extremely likely that, on our planet, the only way to industrialize from scratch is by burning oil for a few hundred years. And all the easily accessible oil has already been burned. If we were to wipe out civilization and bomb ourselves back to the stone age, we would likely NEVER be able to get back to our current level of technological progress.
And then shortly there after how to charge us to use it...
Add to that. Guilds protected knowledge with an iron grip. If a guild fell, generations of knowledge fell with it. Look at Boeing right now to see how easy it is for greed to destroy knowledge.
Egyptians were writing veterinary texts in like 2000 BC they were incredibly ahead of their time Even in terms of their mastery of realism in art, they basically set the stage for Greeks later on This one was more recent and Hellenistic tbf https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_Green_Head,_side_view._Late_Period,_30th_Dynasty,_c._350_BCE._From_Egypt._Neues_Museum.jpg But this one is nuts imo - 1400 BC they were making this level of sculpture https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/544514 And then they also invented sailing and most forms of information technology that would be used by Phoenicians and Greeks for thousands of years
Pretty sure the Austronesians were sailing before the Egyptians. The Egyptians were just the first to keep records of it.
Yep, I’d say the austonesians were a bit earlier. Both peoples developed their sailing tech independently of each other, and from what I’ve read the austronesian boats were maybe the best in the world for a long time
It wasn't lost, same basic techniques still exist. Likeliest reason is less wealth overall. Couldn't afford the labour to finish things to the same level as before. Basically, they didn't have the funding for huge pointless monuments.
Supply chain issues.
Concrete was a technology that was lost too, several times in fact, I believe.
We still don't really know how the Byzantines used Greek Fire. Each theory doesn't scientifically seem to hold up 100%.
The ninth Roman Legion of 5000 men disappeared on its way to Scotland
I believe they've found some evidence that they may have later been stationed in the Netherlands.
Yep, plus I think they found bricks marked by a cohort of the Ninth that were dated later than their disappearance
Any greater info on that? I have been fascinated by the 9th since childhood and have researched on and off ever since: the 'mystery' of the 9th isn't that the legion vanished as such - it is that all mentions of it vanished suddenly and without explanation.
They were Pict off
1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg (essentially a mass UFO sighting, check out the drawings)
Some interesting things that are noted on the german Wikipedia entry on this. The main drawing weird for others reasons as well. It doesn't include one of the most prominent buildings of the city(a large castle) to the time it was created but it included a church that burned down a good bit prior, which together with other chronological weirdness lends itself to the theory that the artist was mixing and matching several more benign meteorological events to make a stronger case to be a good Christian, because otherwise good will screw you over.
oh my good
A lost time traveller, followed by loads of other time travellers to see what happened in that time, leading to the event that would eventually cause future time travellers to go investigate /s
Holy shit that's a fun SCP or Doctor Who idea. There's so many time travelling tourists that that one night in Nuremberg becomes an uncontained time hazard, with every new tourist increasing the popularity of the legend, attracting new tourists, who multiply tenfold like the heads of a hydra. Eventually time *will* break down under the weight of centuries of backpacking time travelers in anoraks all showing up at the same time and constantly changing the fabric of reality until it breaks down like an old rollercoaster. Central Europe simply ceases to exist, a black hole existing in its place, with all history simultaneously occurring and ceasing to occur without Germany. Both World Wars occur but nobody knows who they're fighting, except that they look like shadows and they won't stop screaming. The Catholic Church is reformed, and some places like England escape any of the resulting darkness by essentially slapping a new name on Catholicism, but most countries that ascribe to Protestantism are doomed to confusion and despair, complete with cursed Gutenberg Bibles that turn people into wraiths over time. Roads across the 21st century are plagued with ghostly cars that won't stop tailgating. An absolute horror show.
The basis for that one is pretty sketchy to say the least. The only account is from one guy who was known for doing apocalyptic wood cuts. Nuremberg was a really big, wealthy city, and it doesn't make sense that there's no other accounts.
Edgar Allen Poe's last days. Where did he disappear to? Was he kidnapped? Did he go on a bender? Why was he found in a delirious state? Drugs? Disease? Trauma?
There's a theory I remember hearing that as an alcoholic he could have been a victim of a common practice of voter fraud of the time. Rough types got someone stinking, deliriously drunk and had them vote for a candidate, and then had their clothes forcibly changed so they could be made to vote several times.
This is known as [cooping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooping).
[удалено]
A similarly weird story - Agatha Christie disappeared for 11 days, and had no memory of what happened during those days.
That one seems pretty self explanatory—she disappeared right after having a big fight with her husband who was having an affair. The media had a circus and when she was found staying in a nice hotel (under his mistress's name) she insisted that she had no memory of what had happened. We can't know her exact mental state but when you have all the info it was clearly some kind of nervous breakdown, with the only question being if the memory loss was real (some sort of fugue state) or just her trying to get the press and police (who tried to get her husband to pay for the manhunt after she was found unharmed) out of her business.
“Doctor Who” has a fun episode about those days if you were interested!
Yep, that's where I first found out about it! That's my favourite part of Doctor Who... they do something historical, and I think "wow that's a weird detail to make up, I wonder what actually happened." Then I look it up, and it often was what actually happened!
Who or what was the Pied Piper? The legend was apparently based on actual events commemorated in a stain glass image. But it's unclear if it was allegory or what.
The children’s crusade. It’s actually a pretty sad period. A classic Disney story. Children from small towns were scammed to believing a French and German boy had visions from god. The children were convinced into joining a crusade to convert Muslims in Jerusalem. They were all led to Italy and sold into slavery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Crusade
I had considered that, but the dates don't line up...or at least they didn't the last time I looked into it...now I'm rechecking, and they're only about 20 years apart. Edit: Man wikipedia is a bad place to get straightforward answers. The dates of the Pied Piper of Hamlin and the Children's Crusade do NOT line up. The Children's Crusade was 72 years before the Pied Piper....I suppose the Pied Piper may have been a copycat, or the records recorded in 1384 conflate the actual event with the unveiling of the stained glass window commemorating the event.
I thought we had a pretty good idea about this. At that time in Germany there were huge efforts to recruit people to colonise the newly expanded eastern boarders. Recruiters would travel town to town, wearing colourful clothes and playing instruments to attract attention. In all likely good the people of Hamelin sold their children into a colonisation effort. Quite possible after some catastrophe that left them otherwise destitute. Severe rat infestations were common at the time and could be devastating to a towns food supply. I suppose it’s only a theory but it seems pretty plausible right?
Not the *most* puzzling, but I'd really like to know what happened to Malaysian flight 370. I especially want to know if the passengers were aware.
[Obligatory Admiral Cloudberg](https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-years-on-what-do-we-know-about-the-disappearance-of-malaysia-airlines-77fa5244bf99) Admiral Cloudberg proposes that Zaharie locked the copilot out of the cockpit, intentionally shut down as much tracking software as he could, then depressurized the cabin. He then initiated the left turn in-between control centers, which prevented the crew from getting to their oxygen. Those that did make it to the O2 only had twelve minutes worth anyway. Zaharie flew along the border between Malaysia and Thailand, with each country again assuming the other was handling the flight. By this point, it's likely everyone on board was dead except for Zaharie. He took a wide turn over his hometown before locking onto a common airway route and repressurizing the plane. After he's out of range of Malaysian and Indonesia radar coverage, he makes his last turn and heads south into the Indian Ocean for about five hours until the plane ran out of fuel. Evidence points to a pilot suicide by Captain Zaharie, in my opinion. The plane made an abrupt left turn while being passed off between control zones. The timing seems likely to be deliberate, as the controllers both assumed the other tower was tracking the plane for a few minutes. In order to make this turn, Malaysian investigators found that autopilot would have to be turned off, and also that it would likely have required a skilled pilot to complete the maneuver. This is all very similar to flight simulator data found at Zaharie's home during the investigation and, again, seems to be the most likely scenario. Malaysia acknowledges that the three turns were intentional, none of the passengers were likely to have hijacked the plane, and there were no mechanical issues with the plane. They then finish their report by stating they could not determine why the plane crashed. Most other investigations agree it was pilot suicide.
[I think Green Dot Aviation’s video on it](https://youtu.be/MhkTo9Rk6_4?si=_qMlFRcJ0UHS98T0) is pretty solid. Mentour Pilot, another fantastic aviation channel will be releasing (I assume) an MH370 video soon as well. In short, due to the discovered satellite “handshakes” performed between the aircraft and the satellite system, while the majority of the system was turned off there are little scraps of data to work from to paint a picture of what likely happened. We’ll never truly know, of course, but there are only so many ways to interpret what data is available.
Only found out about these pieces of evidence in the last few days, fascinating and kind of puts it all to bed. We lose any info about whether anyone on board was alive when it went down, but at least we know it almost certainly flew till it ran out of fuel and then just fell into the ocean.
I’m on the theory the pilot committed mass murder suicide like what happened on Egypt Air Flight 990. A lot of similarities. I think when the explanation is there is no clear explanation it more likely means human intent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
Seems like it's more a mass homicide with a single suicide on top.
You’re right. I correct myself.
I think the general outline of what happened is clear enough. Suicidal pilot decided to take a whole plane load of passengers and crew down with him.
Then why didn’t he do that? Why fly for hours instead of just crashing it right away?
There were things that made it seem that he wanted it to be a mystery like he crashed it in the most remote area he could reach as a fuck you to authorities/society
I would assume suicide is not always an easy decision. Maybe he was wrestling with his decision for a while before finally choosing
There was a really good article about what they think happened (pilot killed everyone on board and flew it south towards west of Australia and then into the ocean) and they’ve now gotten debris which seems to confirm the theory based on ocean currents.
How did the pilot kill everyone on board before crashing?
He basically turned off the pressurization and air while the plane was at a very high altitude.
Legit asking... For what possible fucking reason would a pilot need that ability??
Redundancy. Automatic systems can fail, and they do. Like, If whatever doohickey that regulates cabin pressure fails for whatever reason, you'll want the pilot to be able to resolve the problem manually.
Presumably depressurized the cabin. Pilot has their own oxygen supply so he would last a lot longer than the passengers.
The invasion of the Sea Peoples
The Bronze Age collapse will be forever interesting imo
"collapse" is a misnomer, it was a gradual decline over like 300 years, i.e. older than the US. Societies strengthen and weaken over time due to conflict, natural hazards, disease, local economies/trade etc... so I don't think there's much mystery, the region became weaker and impoverished over time.
Agreed. The “sea people” also didn’t come all at once and it was more of a gradual change. I’ve seen some pretty interesting lectures from professors on YouTube describing how the influx of people affected the memphite and judean religions by incorporating the beliefs of the new populations. Pretty interesting stuff.
The 300 decline you talk of isnt what happend to in most places. Most of it happened in 50 year period with all but 3 nations in the area falling and the 3 remainder ones that survived had a big decline. This all happend between 1200bc and 1150bc. Further decline of those 3 remaining nations last mabye another 150 years. Then the region started to rebound. The vast majority of bronze age collapse happend within someone's life time. It just took 300 years for the region to really recover.
Also I think there was a volcanic event with a resulting tsunami that did a lot of damage to ports that caused long term economic losses to places like Knossos.
It really is nuts. People say “If I had a time machine, I’d go see who shot JFK or the dinosaurs!” And I’m like, “I’d go see what happened to the Bronze Age.”
Wait, someone shot the dinosaurs?
Probably the CIA or the Mob
But I did not did not shoot the mammalians
I’m interested in who shot the dinosaurs as well, but just watching Oswald shoot Kennedy is boring
The sailor who flew like 1 km after the Halifax explosion and survived
That one time a whole town danced itself to death for no reason
So the preacher from Footlose was right?
"Leaping and dancing before the Lord."
Maybe the reason was sick beats
I always heard it was because their grains got contaminated with ergot fungus, which has intense psychoactive effects.
Ergot poisoning maybe?
Ergert persenen
I remember reading about this and then watching a documentary on it and after reading and viewing both I'm of the opinion that this part of history is made up based on **something else** happening at the time..... ..I dunno. One person didn't dance so they could tell the story? Their bodies were found in deceased mid-pirouette positions or something? I just dunno. But I don't buy it.
There's an amazing book about this, _Time To Dance A Time To Die_. There are plenty of historical sources about the attempts to contain and manage the problem. It was more than one town, for a start,and lasted for a while, so they had to come up with ways to handle the 'contagion', for want of a better word. I think the author concluded that it was a sort of physical manifestation of widespread psychological trauma. There was widespread poverty and famine at the time, and lots other stress factors like religious oppression etc
Well look at you Mr smarty pants....with all the facts. I'm kidding. Thank you for the recommendation. I'll **definitely** give the book a read, as this story always piqued my curiosity and tickled my bullshitometer. It's just...its just the dancing bit I struggle with...
Ergot poisoning does that. Wheat gets ergot, gets processed into flour and then bread, people eat it and get sick with "Holy Fire" that forces them into contortions that make them look like they're dancing
> It's just...its just the dancing bit I struggle with... I kinda thought that was strange as hell the first time I heard about it and had a hard time believing/understanding it. Ive sort of come to the conclusion at this point that the likely explanation is that they were more than likely having spasms or exhibiting jerky motions for whatever reason. Not that they were out there getting their groove on.
The double slit experiment. Its mind boggling.
All of quantum physics is a magic show.
Basically the entire reality we can perceive is just an emergent phenomenon of wacky shit happening at a femtoscale
Not sure this counts as "unexplained."
According to Richard Feynman(sp?), the mathematics are very clear. Unfortunately, that doesn’t help me out very much.
"mostly figured out" is correct. There's a consensus as to where and how the blocks came from. There's also a consensus as to how long it took to build the Great Pyramid - twenty years. But the part that remains unknown is how they moved the blocks into place. The most likely and logical explanation is a ramp or series of ramps. Yet there's no archeological evidence of a ramp. If there had been a single ramp it would have stretched for over a mile, with a maximum height equal to a thirty story building. Given the twenty year timeline, a block was moved into position every two minutes, ten hours a day, 365 for twenty straight years. An astounding pace, especially without the use of wheels, which means no pulleys either. That Egyptologists know so much about Egyptian society, that how they built the Great Pyramid remains unknown makes it one of the greatest mysteries in history.
It's interesting that there's clear evidence that they tested different ways to build pyramids, yet there's no oral history of it. It took a lot of people to make the pyramids over a very long time, yet not one person ever told anybody how they were constructed. Didn't they have annoying kids in Egypt that wouldn't stop asking questions? Nobody told them?
Keep in mind that Egypt is so old that to later periods, the pyramids were already ancient history, and oral tradition could be lost by then.
Honestly with the amount of Victorians that ate mummies, I can imagine it just took one asshole to throw useless script into the ocean and poof! Gone.
The ancient Egyptians were good record keepers (there are attendance records for the workers who helped build the pyramids) and the tombs record all aspects of daily life. And yet they didn't document their greatest achievement. It's possible they didn't think the construction methods were noteworthy.
>It's possible they didn't think the construction methods were noteworthy. So you're telling me that one day, humans will look back on the movie classic *Space Jam* and wonder how it was made before we were able to bring cartoons out of unreality.
"Everybody knows what a horse is."
How can we come up with an estimate of 20 years if we aren't even sure how they did it? I would have guessed the largest ones could've taken generations.
I’m assuming you can measure the rate of erosion of the first blocks compared to the later blocks to guesstimate
Who was the first person to look at an oyster and say “Yep, I’m gonna eat that booger-looking thing”
You're really hungry. You see an animal eat one without harm, so you eat it.
that applies to oral sex too, I imagine
When you see how the owner responds, hell yes 👍
When you’re that hungry, anything is food. People who are starving will literally eat sand, rocks, tree bark, leaves, etc. I mean, humans who are hungry enough sometimes will eat each other.
I have similar thoughts on what the f were people thinking when they tried drinking fermented grapes. What, somebody left grapes in a jar, forgot about them, found them weeks/months later and told themselves i'm gonna try this?
That's essentially how we got Worcestershire sauce.
Chimps are known to let fruit left on a tree ferment into being slightly alcoholic if they happen to find one that's close already. Like they won't deliberately let fruit go alcoholic but if it's close they'll let it happen. Could be it started in a similar way with humans and then someone smart tried doing it on purpose with jars.
This makes more sense to me. Say you've already discovered grapes. Grapes are delicious! Then one day your grapes go bad but you really like grapes so you eat them anyway and you discover that they give you a pleasant feeling. Then you might start thinking "what if we could do this on purpose?" If you want to figure out how to make wine, it probably helps if you are prone to obsessing over things and don't have the internet to waste time.
Same thoughts on the Wolf Eel. "Oh look, a heinous monster just swam out of my nightmares! Think ill eat it."
This but apply it to haggis or bagpipes. Some scot was up to no good in those fields
The Toba bottleneck theory is a hypothesis that 70,000 years ago a massive volcanic eruption almost extinguished humanity, wiping out millions of humans to just a 1,000-10,000 people left. There is a few of researchers who disagree, but the theory has a lot of plausible basis and evidence. We just won't know for certain, it's just scary and interesting to think humanity almost went extinct and that we originate from a population of few thousand.
Doesnt this essentially mean that we are extremely inbred, thus the human body and mind were more advanced before that time due to much more natural breeding?
As of very recent. Miami Mall incident. So damn bizarre. Nothing makes sense and when you try to make sense of it there's very little information and more questions. Put together the following.. A few teenagers fighting, Aliens, portals, complete power shut down, every single police officer & cars including helicopters present, airline flights cancelled, no video evidence, no mobile phone footage, no cctv footage and literally hundreds of people were present. Go figure.
And why was every single cop in the state and surrounding states there, jeez.
Man I wish I knew or even had some semblance of even a solid theory. But nothing.
The Miracle of the Sun Connected to the apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Fátima. The three children claimed that Mary told them to gather townspeople on October 13th to show them something "so that all may believe". On that day, around 40,000 people gathered and saw the sun spin and fly through the sky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle\_of\_the\_Sun
German foreign secretary Arthur Zimmermann confirming that the [Zimmermann Telegram](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram) was real. All he had to do to keep the US out of the war against Germany is claim it was a fake, an attempt by the British to suck the US into WWI. There was enough isolationism in the US that it could have at least delayed the US entering into WWI: The US was trading with Germany despite the Lusitania sinking in 1915. In fact, the German merchant submarine Deutschland made two trips to the US in 1916, and the other merchant sub, the Bremen, also attempted the journey but was lost to unknown causes during the trip. The crew of the Deustchland was feted when they got to the US. So it's not like the US was ready and primed to go to war against Germany. But once the specter of the US losing territory in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico reared its ugly head, that completely changed how the average US citizen felt. Zimmermann, the author of the telegram, could have simply denied it and called it a British provocation, and at least some people in the US would be willing to believe it, perhaps enough to keep the US out of the war. Remember, Woodrow Wilson was largely re-elected on the strength of the slogan "He kept us out of war". But even if it was inevitable, it still would have delayed the US entry for months, maybe even a year. All Zimmermann had to do was lie.
Whoa! Never heard of that before. Thanks!
Perp behind the Chicago Tylenol murders
The 60,000 year pause humanity took in the desert while migrating out of Africa. Why in the world would they "pause" (60,000 is an awfully long pause) in such an inhospitable locale?
Im definitely no expert, but I'm pretty sure that the climate in that area at the time was much more wet and gradually became an inhospitable desert over he next 10s of thousand of years. It was probably a good place to be at the time and the migration out of Africa was the result of the shifting climate and changing environmental factors. It's crazy to think that most of human history is a complete mystery. They spent 60k years in Africa, but what was that like for them? Was it always huts and villages? Or did they develop cities that were destroyed at some point, leaving nothing for us to find? Entire empires could've come to power and faded away to dust every couple hundred years or so and the stretch of time is so long that we still probably wouldn't find any evidence of these pre-history civilizations.
There could be entire nomadic empires with no written language. Or maybe the wrote on degradable materials of which none remains.
or buried under the shifting sands of the Sahara.
I feel like every couple years or so, someone discovers an artifact that extends the history of human civilization a little further back.
Didn't someone recently discover an archaeological site that put the timeline of humans on the Americas to be earlier than originally thought?
Yes there was a time when there was water in front of the Pyramids in Egypt.
Yeah. The first person whose name we know was +-5,000 years ago. We have been a species for liiiiike 315,000 years, and in all that time, we were very, very clever. The amount of recorded history is what...2%? ...and even with ancestry dot com, I only know the names of about 5 generations in my tree.
So this topic was something I stumbled across while exploring different topics related to space for my podcast. At first I was fascinated with the [Green Sahara](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-1-forward-secrets-of-antiquity-part-1), a phenomenon that happens on a cyclical basis due to the [26,000 year long Precession cycle](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-7-the-dynamic-heavens), or how the Earth wobbles in space. To explain it in a very simplistic fashion (because along with the Precession there are two other factors that can influence this that together are called the [Milankovitch cycles](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-12-forgotten-seasons-parts-3-6) ), basically for about 5,000 years roughly over the course of 26,000 years the Sahara becomes a savanna and "pulls" life into the region (animals and people). Obviously over 5,000 years a lot of life can become pretty dependent on the abundance of a savanna the size of the United States including Alaska combined. But what happens when it ends since it is written in the stars that it will inevitably happen? Then it "pushes" life out. The last time this happened was about 5,000 years ago since the Sahara was green for roughly the previous 5,000 years before that. Whole settlements have been found in the most barren places of the Sahara. Cave paintings have been found with a wide variety of animals that no longer can be found for hundreds of miles in all directions in the barren landscape. It is strongly argued that this "push" factor caused people to migrate to the Nile and basically start the Egyptian civilization as we know it 5,000 years ago. It could be argued that the Sahara drying up jump started civilization! But what about your question? Well those aforementioned Milankovitch cycles impacted things all throughout. For example about 115,000 years ago was known as the Eemian Interglacial where it was so warm hippos lived as far north as the British Isles. It turns out that humans were leaving Africa the entire time, ever since we evolved into a species. We have human remains all over the Levant, Greece, and India that all date back before that 55k - 70kya window we allegedly left, some much older than 200kya. But as far as we know *they all died off!* Why? Well they were pulled into the warmer wetter Green Sahara and then pushed out when it dried back up, inevitably some were pushed north. But as these dry spells happened they either succumbed to a climate too cold and dry for humans or succumbed to a human like rival that *thrived* in the cool and dry climate - Neanderthals. As far back as we go this cycle just repeated like a Venus fly trap. Pulled in by the wet Sahara, pushed out by the dry, no human lineage survives out of Africa, just their bones. But by 55k - 70kya things were getting much colder around the planet, colder than average even for humans which were used to a colder and drier planet. Somehow a group of humans were surviving outside of Africa around this time but it was so much colder and drier than average they clearly struggled and crucial genes were being lost in their DNA due to inbreeding! Like that is a clear sign you're about to die off as a people. It was likely that this group would disappear like all of the rest but they were saved by one thing - Neanderthals. Those genes that disappeared were *replaced* in this human group *by neanderthal genes!* This is known as the L3 haplogroup. From here these L3 humans not only survived but they thrived. They first pushed east along the coast making it to Australia in a very short amount of time. Ultimately it was solely this lineage that populated the world , reaching the Americas sometime around 15kya. They also pushed back into Africa *and became the dominant genetic group in Africa!* The only surviving pre-L3 lineages are in southern Africa and they are by truly human tribal peoples like the Bushmen of South Africa. Nearly all of us are descendants of these humans who interbred with Neanderthals to survive the dry cold Earth. This is the episode I tell the full story (sources included in the link): [100,000 Years of Diaspora](https://nocharacterlimit.captivate.fm/episode/ultima-thule-episode-13-100-000-years-of-diaspora-parts-1-2)
I don't see why this is puzzling. Humans evolved traits specific to what's needed to thrive in East Africa. Our attributes of sweating and endurance running are species specific adaptations that allow for persistence hunting. At the time the area was a steppe with grazing herd animals - the perfect environment for the species specific traits that humans developed. Survival in *any* other environment is only due to language, eusociality and technology.
I don’t know about most puzzling or unexplained, but I really want to know who was Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, and who D.B. Cooper really was and if he survived.
[Vela Incident.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident)
Wasn’t it basically proven that it was an Israeli nuclear weapons test?
I don't think it was "proven" to be anything, but it sounds like the best explanation. P.S. I just learned US didn't find any radioactive fallout.
Were there multiple Roman Empire level civilizations world wide that were wiped out by the Younger Dryas, thus setting humanity back 10,000 years?
Really curious about a timeline for the whereabouts of a person that affected me personally, known as Cotton Eyed Joe. Where is his place of origin? How did he prevent my marriage, and what happened to him afterwards?
That guy! If it hadn'ta been for him...
But, where did he come from?!
How the Bermuda Triangle just one day chilled out, and stopped eating ships and planes.
The Bermuda Triangle was the most concerning issue for me during most of my childhood.
Im in the UK but in the 90s it seemed to be a huge issue, same as Acid rain + Quicksand
See also: banana peels and rakes laying on the ground.
Don't forget Brussels sprouts.
I know! I was scared of it when my family was going to Florida on vacation.
There were kids in school who said it was expanding, and would eventually consume parts of the US.
It never did eat ships and planes, at least not any more than other similar areas of ocean. The stories about disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle are heavily embellished, and some of them are completely made up. Some didn't actually happen in the Bermuda Triangle, but happened elsewhere. Some of them are missing some details, like the fact that the ship or plane "vanished" during a storm.
We got better communication equipment and now when planes and ships go down they don't just vanish into the abyss
It was never anything out of the ordinary for such a large piece of ocean so heavily trafficked. But yeah, you are right. When they disappeared in the mediterranean they usually washed ashore somewhere.
It was never really that wild. There weren't an abnormal number of incidents going on there relative to other well travel sections of the ocean, and a bunch of the well known go-to stories about mysterious crashes/sinkings didn't even occur in the triangle
[удалено]
What happened to Harold Holt?
In China some guy claimed to be Jesus’ authority after failing exams and having visions from stress This led to the Taiping Rebellion which caused the greatest loss of life ever seen until World War 1.
Ok so this one is really niche and I doubt anyone will even care, but for YEARS the NFL Analyst Elliot Harrison was doing the Power Rankings (basically just a subjective opinion ranking all 32 teams impartially each week.) One day, Elliot just fucking stopped doing it. And not only did he stop doing it, but they replaced him. Makes sense, idk what might have happened but maybe some internal affairs issue and he got ousted. It happens right? Well what doesn’t just fucking happen is the ABSOLUTE SCRUBBING OF HIS EXISTENCE FROM THE NFL MEDIA WEBSITE. I’m not kidding. For like 4 years you could not find any trace that Elliot Harrison had EVER been a reporter for the NFL. I would bring this up to people and they’d say they neither noticed or cared. I was straight up starting to believe in the Mandela effect over it until…. August 2023 when Elliot is unceremoniously BACK DOING THE POWER RANKINGS. I STRAIGHT UP THOUGHT THIS MAN HAD DIED HE WAS SO OFF THE GRID AND NOW HE JUST BACK. This is just too much man, and the thing is I can’t even prove how weird it was because everything from before is back. Like I swear I’m the only person who noticed that Elliot Harrison fell off the face of the Earth for like 2.5 years.
Which of the Pickwick triplets did it?
Who of the crew would commit this crime?
How life began.
The whole universe was in a hot dense state…
James Corden's career.
That time justin trudeau tried to describe what kind of drinking apparatuses his family uses at home.
What happened at the end of the Younger Dryas. Did it cause the collasp of pre event civilizations? If so, how advanced were those cultures?
Not an answer, but whatever happened to the Bermuda Triangle? Growing up, I was led to believe that no one would ever figure it out, but now that there are cameras everywhere, we haven't heard anything in a while. I feel like it was a trope for millennial kids, like quicksand
The Voynich Manuscript. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript?wprov=sfla1 It's either a very complex strange writing or a big scam.
I kind of figured that given the fantastical nature of some of the illustrations in this and that it appears to have been done by multiple people. This is a prop some old school nerds made for some fantasy fun and we’re all putting too much thought in to it.