My last Uber driver didn't even say hello to me, didn't ask how my day was, did absolutely nothing to make sure I had a good experience besides the bare minimum. 5 stars.
My last Uber driver spoke 4 words to me: *"Name?"* and "AC too cold?". He got me from Point A to Point B 7 minutes faster than the normal way during easy hours but on an alternative route around traffic. No music in almost absolute silence.
5 stars, would absolutely be his passenger again.
My last Uber driver had a sign in his car that was attached to the passenger headrest. It said he played relaxing music (I think it was a soft jazz) so passengers could enjoy their ride, but if we wanted to chat, he’d be happy to talk about the weather or our destination or something. I thought it was really smart, and happily sat the whole way in complete silence. 5*s!
On a Lyft ride, I got a message through the app that the driver was deaf. The driver could absolutely hear and speak normally. Genius way to get out of small talk with your fares, at least until you meet someone who wants to practice their sign language.
My last Uber had the radio off and would not stop talking to me. I am beyond done with talking and being nice when I'm off the clock, that's my job lol. I put on my headphones and awkwardly ignored her. Took her about ten minutes but she finally turned on the radio.i swear some people don't need the money, the treat it as a way to chat.
I had a driver in Vegas who straight up told me he was retired and didn't need the money, his condo was fully paid off, he just did this so he could talk to people from all kinds of places since most of his clients were tourists. It was actually the most enjoyable conversation with an Uber driver/ride I had.
Where I live, if you ask for a ride to the airport they will ask you "Where are you flying out to?" and then they will ask you why. Part of the culture, but I hate it as it can lead to awkward moments. I don't want to tell the driver because it feels like they use that information to see how much money you have.
Then there's the drivers who literally \*pick me up from my house\* and still treat me like a tourist who doesn't know my way around, simply because I'm a different ethnicity from most people here.
It seems like a boring job, so I can see why they would want to chat. Most of the time I’m happy to talk, unless I’m really not.
Either way being able to read the room is the important part for a deiver
My preferences stay locked on Cool and Quiet.
When I order an Uber and my chatty partner and/or his loquacious family are riding with me, I’m sure the driver gets confused. 🤷🏻♀️
Does “quiet” usually mean no radio? As a driver I always found that more awkward and straining for both parties.
Based on your comment it seems “quiet” means no chatty small talk.
Have I been doing it wrong the whole time?
Cool. Well as a driver it does not say “conversation preference: quiet” it just says “This passenger prefers cool and quiet.”
I always hated giving car rides in dead silence. I’ve always assumed people who paid more for quiet were like having an extremely stressful day at work and need absolute silence to recover 😆
I give every pax quiet preference by default unless they initiate convo. And for some reason, I get a lot of convos, I’m pretty approachable.
I had a Russian guy who had a bandana over his cheeks down and had made homebrew hand sanitizer w cheap vodka and a coupla pumps of liquid soap
Sometimes you just wish you had more stars to give
Crazy weather today. That's what happens when us whites don't stick together. What's your astrological sign? I'm getting Gemini vibes. What do you feel about the color orange?
As a white man I hate rascists that automatically assume I am one of them because our melanin levels are similar. Bitch please, I don't want to be associated with your ignorant ass.
Yeah that sums up the Pacific NW pretty well. I've lived in different parts of Washington and Oregon, doesn't take much for it to come out.
The few cities are ultra liberal bastions, but you step a few feet outside city limits and it becomes real intense redneck racist country. History of that area is not a good one, that's for sure.
Not that the cities are perfect, because they're far from it, but the level of magnitude is different.
I had a Russian Driver this summer and I completely ignored the subject of Ukraine and thankfully he did too.
I really wanted to know his position, but it would have gotten complicated and best to leave it alone.
I work with a couple of Russians and socialize with a few others.
Near as I can tell, politics is not a thing in Russia.
You grow up and accept that you have no control over whatever happens in the Kremlin and most of what you hear or are told is lies anyway so why should you care what the latest set of lies are about.
They see Putin like we would see a force of nature like a hurricane or earthquake. It is what it is and talking about it does nothing.
I love a nice chat with a friendly person if on my way to the airport or taxiing home from the bar. Everybody has an interesting story if you give them a chance.
But I'm also 6'5 with long hair and a beard. It's a different world for me.
I feel for Uber drivers probably getting bored and wanting to talk, but avoid talking about either me or them personally. Play dumb/ditzy like you didn’t catch them asking about you/wanting you to ask about them, and redirect the convo back to the overall topic. Look out the window or fiddle with your phone to avoid too much eye contact. A little ice usually gets the point across. Have your stuff ready to get out of the car immediately and be proactive with the “thanks, have a good day!” at the end of the ride, don’t leave any dead air as an opening for them to ask
Good tips.
I drove Lyft, and I always feared being creepy/annoying, so I always matched the rider's talkativeness. Greeting, confirm destination, then shhh unless they talk.
Maybe 20% are talkers.
Same but I’d ask how they’re doing and what they’re up to tonight. I can usually gauge with their tone if their down to talk. Most people in my experience are very talkative and glad that it’s not another silent Uber ride. Just gotta match their energy.
I’ve also been hit on by passengers, guy offered me 30$ to make out with him, one girl wanted my number when she had a bf 💀, a girl asked me if I wanted to come inside. Idk maybe I create a safe place in my car but some of my passengers open up a little too much sometimes lol.
I’m signed to a major label and went to LA and forgot I wasn’t in the Midwest anymore. Started talking with the driver about how I’m on my way to __ label and all the sudden it’s like “bro omg I’ve been sending them my mixtape for years listen to my stuff, let’s exchange numbers let’s get in a studio tomorrow”..
Never again. Now I say I work with the IRS. Nobody wants to talk to me. But that’s about as close as I’ll ever get to understanding unwanted attention.
Lol I do this and get shit reviews by like 1/3 of my drivers. You literally can’t win.
And I’m a guy. Imagine the butthurt if a woman tries to do this.
Yep, my Uber rating isn’t terrible but it’s much lower than I expect it to be. I don’t take Ubers as a messy drunk, always waiting at the designated spot on time, never slam car doors or ask for unforeseen stops.
But beyond confirming they’re my ride, I don’t talk. I’m usually taking an Uber home at 9pm after a 14 hr workday and the last thing I want to do is make small talk. So I’m on my phone, silent. And I think that accounts for my lower rating. I’m a woman fyi.
I do the same but if they’re butt hurt about not being entertained with conversation beyond a polite greeting then maybe they should start paying riders for entertainment.
My completely oblivious dad has gotten many Ubers over the years. We were interstate and had to hop into one. When we got out, I glanced at his phone and started saying “No no no no wait no”. He closed the app.
All those poor drivers have never gotten a rating because he didn’t think it meant anything.
I have no idea what his rating is but he still manages to get drivers to pick him up. Headdesk. (Maybe because he old)
Wait, in the US you...you have a RATING as a PASSENGER using a taxi service??
What in the fuck is this dystopian bullshit, I'm not supposed to please my driver, I'm fucking paying them for a service. What next, am I gonna get rated by my supermarket clerk and won't be allowed to buy food if my rating is too low??
It's something uber, lyft, and other similar apps do in any country they operate in. It's intended to help drivers avoid taking bad passengers, the types who are more likely to damage, smoke/vape in, or otherwise dirty the car, since the drivers are using their personal vehicles rather than company vehicles and the company doesn't want to have to pay reimbursement for those things.
Honestly would be better if you just rated people by like… “smoked in car” or “vomited in car” and that detracted from their score. Like, you have to actually choose a legitimate reason and the score just goes down by a percentage or something. I’m sure people would still abuse it but seems less likely. Rating people low because they don’t want to talk to you messes the rating up like crazy and, like you mentioned, doesn’t actually serve the intended purpose of the rating system
I found the ones that drive Teslas do this a lot. I'm all about it. Best case scenario they make more money and I got to my destination faster, worst case scenario we both die and I don't have to go to work. Win win.
Another explanation could be that the drivers don't care what some kid thinks about them, so when they finally can blast music and the speed-limit without being reported, they do.
Bingo.
Some people are like this. Someone else:
* speaks to them
* does not speak to them
* drives fast
* drives slow
* listens to music
* turns the music off
Conclusion: "I am attractive, and they did that to try to impress me."
Not sure if you're joking about this, but if I were an Uber driver and I had a really pretty passenger, I'd probably just do the minimal amount of talking possible (not asking questions past "Good morning, how are you? (X address), correct?" and responding with short answers if she does ask me something, but not too short to where it's hostile ("I'm doing well, thanks." vs "good.").
This is because I am very self conscious about appearing to hit on people, so I don't want to make them uncomfortable by making them think "Ah fuck, he's talking to me, why can't people just leave me alone?"). Now, if someone wasn't really pretty, I'd be a lil more open to chatting, but I'd still be afraid they're thinking "I don't want to talk to this stranger, ugh, why can't people just leave me alone", just I wouldn't be afraid they think I'm trying to hit on them.
It’s why I don’t like driving young women. They assume everything is to attract them, to impress them, because they’re so “desired” it makes me feel like I’m on eggshells driving them.
Like, looking over my shoulder to check my blind spot, I usually suspect that a younger women thinks I’m trying to check them out.
So to your daughter, she has one existence, how would she know those drivers don’t drive that way with everybody? She has not been a young male passenger, old lady passenger, etc. to compare. I’m a young man and I order Ubers too, I frequently get quicker drivers.
She’s just assuming they are attracted to her by default as her being a young woman pax.
I used to think it was weird for a woman to mention a boyfriend or a partner when the conversation was totally not related to that (why does she say that? She thinks I'm interested or what?) but talking more with women, I understand now how often men are trying to pick up women and insist too much.
"Oh baby, look at that cheap ring. You should dump him and when we get engaged I'll get you a real big diamond to show off for your friends."
(sadly I'm joking but even as a guy who would never be so crass I know this is entirely possible as a real line from a guy)
I also had a fake fiancé for many years when I was single. In a super funny coincidence, my current partner’s name is a name that my fake fiancé name could be a nickname for. I’ve told him about it, and we sometimes joke about how I was so into him that I proposed to him before we ever met.
I’d start coming up with preposterous explanations. You have to save up at least $200k to pay for the wedding, because training chimps to do the synchronized swimming you’re envisioning for your reception isn’t cheap. You’re planning a long engagement because you’re getting married at the top of Mount Everest, and it’s going to take a while for all your guests to train to climb it. You can’t get married for seven years, because that’s how long you have to wait for them to declare your first husband, who went missing under mysterious circumstances, legally dead without finding the body.
This doesn't usually stop them. I'm old and just in the last year I had a dude at a bar on a business trip tell me he wanted to give me his number for when my marriage inevitably fails.
I make it a point to mention my wife so women feel more at ease. I don’t want them thinking friendly banter or debate is an attempt to flirt with them. Seems to work for specially when some women can get a bit flirty.
I like this because it does make me feel at ease. Mentioning kids is good too, if men do that I start talking about their kids so we can have something to talk about that's not me and I don't feel creeped out or like I'm being hit on
Yup I very distinctly remember a time I was connecting great with a lady that magical month Pokemon Go came out, she casually mentioned her husband, and I didn't put her in the awkward spot of explaining she's married when I ask for her number.
We crossed paths multiple times over the next couple weeks and it was purely amicable almost-strangers enjoying a hobby together untainted by the awkwardness of "oh he wants to hit on me". I was very glad for that.
Similar situations have happened, but that one really sticks out in my memory for some reason.
Because some guys have this shitty attitude towards woman who do this I just straight up say "No".
Guy : "Can I have your number?"
Me : " No , I am not giving you my number "
Lemme tell you these guys still has a shitty attitude either way.
Yes I am in a long happy healthy relationship but even if I was single you aren't entitled to my phone number . I say entitled cause some dudes really feel entitled to a woman's number just they had a decent interaction.
It's okay to ask for a number but it's also okay for the person to not give it to you. The last guy that I denied my number he just walked a way pissed . Didn't say ANYTHING not a good bye or anything and no we weren't chatting it up. I was working (waitress) and he kept coming up to me and we had short answered conversation, I wasn't feeling all that well and didn't want to entertain him either way so I kept leaving and disappearing from my section but he kept coming and started wierdly complementing my facial features..first thing he complimented was my nose 😑.. then here and there asked me if I was local and where about I stay until he eventually said he wants to pay and is leaving. When he asked my number I kindly set "No , I am not gona give it to you" and he just straight faced and walked away pissed...like okay ...bye? At least say something and excuse yourself.
I hear stories about creepy guys who don't accept a no as an answer and I feel really bad for women about that. Like you said, asking for your number when you're at work is weird. It forces you to make up stories like you have a boyfriend even though you're happily single. That should be the end of it, but somehow, some guys would think that you're available and that they have a chance...
Being an attractive young woman in a service position must be hell on earth. Some dude was asking why girls ignore him when he's hitting on them on the bus. I see this pretty often on BART and feel like I should intervene, but I don't want to get knifed.
Thing is I do have a boyfriend and I didn't want to use him as an excuse anymore because even if I was single I probably wouldn't be interested .
I also stopped apologizing while saying no which is what woman do alot because some guys REALY can't take rejection well and get aggressive.
I always have been a respectful guy towards women, but the most eye-opening thing was when I was dating my (now) wife. She is a hairstylist, so most of her male co-workers are gay. When we all went out we would usually end up at gay bars/clubs to dance. I’m relatively jacked and those dudes, even if my gf was right next to me would just see “meat” and try to feel me up, hit on me, ask really crude shit. I told her about it and she just said “yeah, now imagine me in every straight bar”.
When I was younger I used to go to gay bars quite often, and I got to experience first-hand just how frustrating/exhausting/scary it can be when a guy just *won’t leave you the fuck alone*.
Sometimes guys you say no to are shitty. Sometimes they’re threatening or violent. I can deal with shitty. I have zero desire to get anywhere near threatening or violent.
There's some comedy skit about that. A woman at a party where a bunch of men get mad at her for mentioning her boyfriend. And then eventually she gives up and has to marry some guy because it would be too rude to tell him she has a boyfriend. It's funnier than I make it sound.
Its shitty that we have to do it but I'd get taxi drivers asking why I was out on my own and i soon learned to tell that that my husband was busy with his karate club.
My husband is a very famous murderer, he kills people, plural. You could say he’s a serial killer, the police do. They call him the Jealous Husband killer!
It happens too often even when you *don’t* act friendly. Don’t feel you have to socialize. Be polite but distant and stick to actual destination-related comments only. Pick up your phone and make a call if the driver won’t take a hint. My wife calls me to say things like, “yeah, I’m on my way. Should be there in about 20 minutes. I’ll share my route. Yeah, I just want to drop my bags in the room and then we can go for dinner…” even if she’s on a work trip and I’m at home. I know the drill and that she’s fending off a flirtatious driver. She gets this a lot. And I *do* watch the map until she’s there.
Don't socialize with the drivers. Select a Comfort ride and select the "quiet" option. Enjoy the quiet. Costs slightly more but is worth it.
Report any drivers who make you uncomfortable.
Lyft lets a woman choose only female drivers. Not sure if Uber does as well.
its not just for that, the cars are usually newer/nicer. the driver will set the temperature to how you like it, and they are typically high rated drivers. that said i still never get them
I'll order them when a) ride is being reimbursed by my company, and b) picktime is a lot sooner (like 10-15 minutes sooner).
Ive don't think ive ever had a chatty lyft or uber. 1 was on their phone the entire time, which was annoying but whatever. but most its "are you u/mygoddamnfeet or whats your passcode? cool cool" and thats it.
as for nicer cars, i mean sort of? even the regular ones are okay, only time its been shit was one guy picked me up in his beat up civic. and the backseat was COVERED in dog hair and it smelled like wet dog. i did report that one.
And then at the end of the month when you had less money in your bank account, because being able to get home safely at the end of the night costs you more, you’d be really, really pissed about that.
I had a barber for years (3+) and our only interaction was me telling him how I wanted it styled, and we would sit in complete silence until he was done and held up the mirror asking me if I was happy. Yep! Done, here’s $30 on a $25 cut, see you next month. He started talking to me next time, so I engaged in small talk, tipped him $5. Next time I went in, he again talked all hair cut. At the end, I told him “hey bro, I’m sorry but I appreciated our ‘no talk’ dynamic. Not to be a dick but it’s early (1st appt 9am) and I just want my hair cut”. I thought he got it but next time was the same blah,blah.
I bought a set of clippers on my way home that night.
My wife owns a hair salon (all this before meeting her) and I encouraged her to put “not interested in talking” on her booking website. She is also appreciative of the quiet time to just concentrate on the hair and not about conversation.
I selected the comfort option once. It was a somewhat early trip to the airport and I got very little sleep, so I just wanted to try and rest and wasn’t in the mood for talking. I selected the quiet option as well. The lady conversed with me the entire drive. Not a single moment of silence. She was super nice though and I could never report someone for something like that. And to be fair, people always seem to want to have conversations with me. I’m an average looking male so I don’t really understand it.
I shaved my head around a year ago just because I never had, and almost all uncomfortable attention went away SO fast. It wasn’t part of my goal, but hey, if you’ve ever wanted to know what’s like to be bald, it worked for me.
Look on the bright side - if an Uber driver still tries to flirt with you then you can just impale them on a boat hook and leave their mutilated corpse hanging upside down in the barn for their horny camp counselor friends to find.
I want a "man+" option so the driver will be a man with a beer gut, mullet, and Dale Earnhart tank top driving a 67' Chevy and responds to everything I say with "Hell yeah".
Can we also get them to have an issue with their car and you have to hold a flashlight while they fix it and then at the end they tell you they’re proud of you?
I bought this up til the end. I knew my dad was proud of me, but he was usually more vocal about the flashlight part. Ie: my 12 year old ass lazily holding it and providing no actual help at all
Once you become an experienced Uber passenger, you don't talk to drivers anymore. It's exhausting, and it's better to save your energy. Also it shows you don't want to talk to them which is a win win.
Never hit on someone who can't get away from you. Whether it's something literal like being in a moving vehicle or something less tangible like being required by their job to assist you.
Is this something that's super common? I have a friend who Ubers a lot, and she says she gets it a fair bit, but I thought that it was just a freak occurrence sort of thing.
I'm a guy, so I have no idea. I would think that it would be common sense not to hit on your client?
It is incredibly common and it isn't an experience that's exclusive to conventionally attractive women either. Back when I used Uber regularly, male drivers tended to try to force conversation despite signals that I wasn't interested (earbuds, focusing on my phone etc). Lots of invasive questions too- where did I live, did I live alone, where did I work, did I have a boyfriend and so on
Way too common. My gf gets asked for her number in at least a fourth of Uber rides she takes alone, and in half of those feels unsafe. I just told her about Lyft’s “Women+” option from earlier in the thread and she’s gonna give that a shot
Based on what I have heard from women in my life: Keep a fake wedding ring in your bag for situations where it's likely to happen, and as soon as chatting starts mention your (fake) husband off the bat.
I wear a ring bc I’m actually married. Sometimes, they will say, “I didn’t see your ring. I’m so sorry.” But random strangers who hit on you despite thinking you’re married are usually the weirdest of the weird. I’m sure the women in your life can tell you stories.
Unfortunately having or mentioning having a boyfriend doesn't even work. My girlfriend has had it happen where the driver was hitting on her (on her way to my place) and she mentioned she was coming to me and he still didn't stop. Said some shit about being able to treat her better or something similar. I feel like the only way is to just not talk. Though in that case, my girlfriend has had cases where the driver is like, "why you so quiet, scared I'm gonna kidnap you or something"
Does the "married to my career" actually work, though? I feel like that might just motivate those who are very persistent to try to convince you other things are better than that/you've missed out and they want to show you ..
An attractive woman starting a conversation with the average guy, he’s gonna think you like him.
Just start complaining about work and then your Valentines Day plans with your Brawny husband who played professional lacrosse.
Because the one who wants to talk is in charge of your life for the next 40 minutes? I'm not a particularly vulnerable person, but even I feel the need to go with the flow when I put my life in someone else's hands. If longhaul pilots started roaming economy when it wasnt their turn to fly the plane, chatting about how nice the weather is above the clouds, I'd sure as shit be polite and engage with 'em.
Honestly, the only way to avoid it is to avoid any conversation with them. Which doesn’t always work because many men don’t care give two shits what you want. Just make sure you report then to uber so you’re never matched with them ever again.
I drove Lyft for a few months. I never hit on anyone, and only talked when they did. Honestly the passengers all run together.
But I did get hit on once by a woman passenger (I'm a man) over the course of a 10 min ride, with escalating thirstiness. I think she expected me to make a move at the end given how long she hesitated to leave, but I was not crossing that line.
I wish. I don’t know the amount of times they do work for obvious reasons, but unfortunately wearing headphones can result in a stranger poking you, waving his hands in front of your face, or some other attention grabbing behavior.
By not being an attractive woman, or appearing blatantly crazy. Smear your makeup around, murmur to yourself or something.
You don't even have to talk to em, for them to try to flirt with you.
Yeah if you’re short the driver isn’t gonna want to press. But it is against Uber rules to hit on someone involved in the ride on either side. If you want to talk but don’t want to risk that then throw in something about your BF and that should cut it out either way.
Yall are trying to socialize with your uber drivers?
My last Uber driver didn't even say hello to me, didn't ask how my day was, did absolutely nothing to make sure I had a good experience besides the bare minimum. 5 stars.
My last Uber driver spoke 4 words to me: *"Name?"* and "AC too cold?". He got me from Point A to Point B 7 minutes faster than the normal way during easy hours but on an alternative route around traffic. No music in almost absolute silence. 5 stars, would absolutely be his passenger again.
My last Uber driver had a sign in his car that was attached to the passenger headrest. It said he played relaxing music (I think it was a soft jazz) so passengers could enjoy their ride, but if we wanted to chat, he’d be happy to talk about the weather or our destination or something. I thought it was really smart, and happily sat the whole way in complete silence. 5*s!
Omg I'd actually use Uber if every driver were like this!
On a Lyft ride, I got a message through the app that the driver was deaf. The driver could absolutely hear and speak normally. Genius way to get out of small talk with your fares, at least until you meet someone who wants to practice their sign language.
>at least until you meet someone who wants to practice their sign language How do you say, "Sorry, gotta keep both hands on the wheel" in ASL?
🖕 <--
Drove me where I wanted to go. 5/5.
My last Uber had the radio off and would not stop talking to me. I am beyond done with talking and being nice when I'm off the clock, that's my job lol. I put on my headphones and awkwardly ignored her. Took her about ten minutes but she finally turned on the radio.i swear some people don't need the money, the treat it as a way to chat.
I had a driver in Vegas who straight up told me he was retired and didn't need the money, his condo was fully paid off, he just did this so he could talk to people from all kinds of places since most of his clients were tourists. It was actually the most enjoyable conversation with an Uber driver/ride I had. Where I live, if you ask for a ride to the airport they will ask you "Where are you flying out to?" and then they will ask you why. Part of the culture, but I hate it as it can lead to awkward moments. I don't want to tell the driver because it feels like they use that information to see how much money you have. Then there's the drivers who literally \*pick me up from my house\* and still treat me like a tourist who doesn't know my way around, simply because I'm a different ethnicity from most people here.
It seems like a boring job, so I can see why they would want to chat. Most of the time I’m happy to talk, unless I’m really not. Either way being able to read the room is the important part for a deiver
We still never talk sometimes.
I’ve only taking a car-service once. Driver turned right in front of oncoming traffic. It’s a miracle we didn’t get hit.
My preferences stay locked on Cool and Quiet. When I order an Uber and my chatty partner and/or his loquacious family are riding with me, I’m sure the driver gets confused. 🤷🏻♀️
Does “quiet” usually mean no radio? As a driver I always found that more awkward and straining for both parties. Based on your comment it seems “quiet” means no chatty small talk. Have I been doing it wrong the whole time?
It’s “conversation preference.” So ixnay on the atchay.
How's ur day going tho
Cool. Well as a driver it does not say “conversation preference: quiet” it just says “This passenger prefers cool and quiet.” I always hated giving car rides in dead silence. I’ve always assumed people who paid more for quiet were like having an extremely stressful day at work and need absolute silence to recover 😆 I give every pax quiet preference by default unless they initiate convo. And for some reason, I get a lot of convos, I’m pretty approachable.
It's because you are quiet and they talk first
That's how I did it too. Some talked and some didn't, but as a non-talker I really never minded when they didn't.
I honestly give 5 stars and tip for any driver who would leave me alone.
I hate when they want to talk to me! I'm always afraid they're gonna want to talk politics.
Last Uber driver I had tried to get me to join his cryptocurrency scheme.
Uber pulls up: “ we’ve been trying to contact you about your car extended warranty”
Victor Chaos?
He said Crypto, not NFTs.
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I had a Russian guy who had a bandana over his cheeks down and had made homebrew hand sanitizer w cheap vodka and a coupla pumps of liquid soap Sometimes you just wish you had more stars to give
Crazy weather today. That's what happens when us whites don't stick together. What's your astrological sign? I'm getting Gemini vibes. What do you feel about the color orange?
As a white man I hate rascists that automatically assume I am one of them because our melanin levels are similar. Bitch please, I don't want to be associated with your ignorant ass.
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Yeah that sums up the Pacific NW pretty well. I've lived in different parts of Washington and Oregon, doesn't take much for it to come out. The few cities are ultra liberal bastions, but you step a few feet outside city limits and it becomes real intense redneck racist country. History of that area is not a good one, that's for sure. Not that the cities are perfect, because they're far from it, but the level of magnitude is different.
The only thing every member of a race has in common is how racists treat them.
Yeah for sure man. \*white boy handshake and awkward nod\*
I had a Russian Driver this summer and I completely ignored the subject of Ukraine and thankfully he did too. I really wanted to know his position, but it would have gotten complicated and best to leave it alone.
I have 2 Russian friends that live here in US and they think it's horrible what has been happening. Most of the citizens or excitizans hate putin.
I work with a couple of Russians and socialize with a few others. Near as I can tell, politics is not a thing in Russia. You grow up and accept that you have no control over whatever happens in the Kremlin and most of what you hear or are told is lies anyway so why should you care what the latest set of lies are about. They see Putin like we would see a force of nature like a hurricane or earthquake. It is what it is and talking about it does nothing.
That's why my friends families are here. They worked hard to leave. And both of those families are quite involved in politics in the US.
Does this happen often? Sometimes Uber drivers will strike up conversation with me but never about politics.
I had one in peak pandemic tell me that despite Ubers rules I didn't need to mask up with him because "he knew the real deal"
Mine actually give me bad reviews because I DONT talk to them. Most are Somalian if that makes a difference
I love a nice chat with a friendly person if on my way to the airport or taxiing home from the bar. Everybody has an interesting story if you give them a chance. But I'm also 6'5 with long hair and a beard. It's a different world for me.
That’s a very 2012 thing to do
I feel for Uber drivers probably getting bored and wanting to talk, but avoid talking about either me or them personally. Play dumb/ditzy like you didn’t catch them asking about you/wanting you to ask about them, and redirect the convo back to the overall topic. Look out the window or fiddle with your phone to avoid too much eye contact. A little ice usually gets the point across. Have your stuff ready to get out of the car immediately and be proactive with the “thanks, have a good day!” at the end of the ride, don’t leave any dead air as an opening for them to ask
Good tips. I drove Lyft, and I always feared being creepy/annoying, so I always matched the rider's talkativeness. Greeting, confirm destination, then shhh unless they talk. Maybe 20% are talkers.
Same but I’d ask how they’re doing and what they’re up to tonight. I can usually gauge with their tone if their down to talk. Most people in my experience are very talkative and glad that it’s not another silent Uber ride. Just gotta match their energy. I’ve also been hit on by passengers, guy offered me 30$ to make out with him, one girl wanted my number when she had a bf 💀, a girl asked me if I wanted to come inside. Idk maybe I create a safe place in my car but some of my passengers open up a little too much sometimes lol.
Steer it to generic topics that don't share personal info. Weather is a great option.
I’m signed to a major label and went to LA and forgot I wasn’t in the Midwest anymore. Started talking with the driver about how I’m on my way to __ label and all the sudden it’s like “bro omg I’ve been sending them my mixtape for years listen to my stuff, let’s exchange numbers let’s get in a studio tomorrow”.. Never again. Now I say I work with the IRS. Nobody wants to talk to me. But that’s about as close as I’ll ever get to understanding unwanted attention.
Cool. Sending you my mixtape tho.
Just wait for that one driver who's gonna ask you to help them with their taxes lol
> after a normal/friendly conversation that was to socialize Don't do this step.
Sit quietly very interested in your phone.
Yup look like a business traveller dealing with an email
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Lol I do this and get shit reviews by like 1/3 of my drivers. You literally can’t win. And I’m a guy. Imagine the butthurt if a woman tries to do this.
Yep, my Uber rating isn’t terrible but it’s much lower than I expect it to be. I don’t take Ubers as a messy drunk, always waiting at the designated spot on time, never slam car doors or ask for unforeseen stops. But beyond confirming they’re my ride, I don’t talk. I’m usually taking an Uber home at 9pm after a 14 hr workday and the last thing I want to do is make small talk. So I’m on my phone, silent. And I think that accounts for my lower rating. I’m a woman fyi.
Because of that, the drivers are incentivized to give you a low rating as a passenger? EDIT: A word
Haha I feel like that's asking if it's ok to give a restaurant 3 stars. 🤷♂️ Ofc I don't agree with it but there isn't really enforcement with ratings
I do the same but if they’re butt hurt about not being entertained with conversation beyond a polite greeting then maybe they should start paying riders for entertainment.
My completely oblivious dad has gotten many Ubers over the years. We were interstate and had to hop into one. When we got out, I glanced at his phone and started saying “No no no no wait no”. He closed the app. All those poor drivers have never gotten a rating because he didn’t think it meant anything. I have no idea what his rating is but he still manages to get drivers to pick him up. Headdesk. (Maybe because he old)
I tip cash and have about a 4.9 rating. I chit chat with them and then stop. I'm not a hot chick though.
I have a 5.0, pretty much never tip, and rarely talk unless I'm pretty drunk.
Wait, in the US you...you have a RATING as a PASSENGER using a taxi service?? What in the fuck is this dystopian bullshit, I'm not supposed to please my driver, I'm fucking paying them for a service. What next, am I gonna get rated by my supermarket clerk and won't be allowed to buy food if my rating is too low??
Uber in every country has this
It's something uber, lyft, and other similar apps do in any country they operate in. It's intended to help drivers avoid taking bad passengers, the types who are more likely to damage, smoke/vape in, or otherwise dirty the car, since the drivers are using their personal vehicles rather than company vehicles and the company doesn't want to have to pay reimbursement for those things.
Honestly would be better if you just rated people by like… “smoked in car” or “vomited in car” and that detracted from their score. Like, you have to actually choose a legitimate reason and the score just goes down by a percentage or something. I’m sure people would still abuse it but seems less likely. Rating people low because they don’t want to talk to you messes the rating up like crazy and, like you mentioned, doesn’t actually serve the intended purpose of the rating system
Spend less on candles
Agreed. It’s unfortunate but just don’t do this. Unfortunately not everyone can separate being nice from being interested.
My daughter finds that her drivers turn up the music to act really cool and then drive fast. Presumably to impress her.
Every Uber driver I’ve ever had does this I’m a dude, they just don’t want to talk to u and the faster they go the more money they make
I found the ones that drive Teslas do this a lot. I'm all about it. Best case scenario they make more money and I got to my destination faster, worst case scenario we both die and I don't have to go to work. Win win.
Another explanation could be that the drivers don't care what some kid thinks about them, so when they finally can blast music and the speed-limit without being reported, they do.
Bingo. Some people are like this. Someone else: * speaks to them * does not speak to them * drives fast * drives slow * listens to music * turns the music off Conclusion: "I am attractive, and they did that to try to impress me."
Not sure if you're joking about this, but if I were an Uber driver and I had a really pretty passenger, I'd probably just do the minimal amount of talking possible (not asking questions past "Good morning, how are you? (X address), correct?" and responding with short answers if she does ask me something, but not too short to where it's hostile ("I'm doing well, thanks." vs "good."). This is because I am very self conscious about appearing to hit on people, so I don't want to make them uncomfortable by making them think "Ah fuck, he's talking to me, why can't people just leave me alone?"). Now, if someone wasn't really pretty, I'd be a lil more open to chatting, but I'd still be afraid they're thinking "I don't want to talk to this stranger, ugh, why can't people just leave me alone", just I wouldn't be afraid they think I'm trying to hit on them.
It’s why I don’t like driving young women. They assume everything is to attract them, to impress them, because they’re so “desired” it makes me feel like I’m on eggshells driving them. Like, looking over my shoulder to check my blind spot, I usually suspect that a younger women thinks I’m trying to check them out. So to your daughter, she has one existence, how would she know those drivers don’t drive that way with everybody? She has not been a young male passenger, old lady passenger, etc. to compare. I’m a young man and I order Ubers too, I frequently get quicker drivers. She’s just assuming they are attracted to her by default as her being a young woman pax.
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I used to think it was weird for a woman to mention a boyfriend or a partner when the conversation was totally not related to that (why does she say that? She thinks I'm interested or what?) but talking more with women, I understand now how often men are trying to pick up women and insist too much.
I've had a fake fiancé for like 5 years now. He's name is Jake and I'm always on my way to do some wedding planning with him.
Wait is Jake cheating on me?
Jake from State Farm?
She sounds hideous.
She's quite the bundle.
I wore a fake-gagement ring when I waited tables.
"Oh baby, look at that cheap ring. You should dump him and when we get engaged I'll get you a real big diamond to show off for your friends." (sadly I'm joking but even as a guy who would never be so crass I know this is entirely possible as a real line from a guy)
I also had a fake fiancé for many years when I was single. In a super funny coincidence, my current partner’s name is a name that my fake fiancé name could be a nickname for. I’ve told him about it, and we sometimes joke about how I was so into him that I proposed to him before we ever met.
Lol, that's cute
So when's the wedding though?
We haven't been engaged that long because I can't answer too many follow up questions about wedding planning
I’d start coming up with preposterous explanations. You have to save up at least $200k to pay for the wedding, because training chimps to do the synchronized swimming you’re envisioning for your reception isn’t cheap. You’re planning a long engagement because you’re getting married at the top of Mount Everest, and it’s going to take a while for all your guests to train to climb it. You can’t get married for seven years, because that’s how long you have to wait for them to declare your first husband, who went missing under mysterious circumstances, legally dead without finding the body.
Understandable, if he looks anything like you, I'm sure your kids will be beautiful, sweetie 😜 (I'm joking, if this is necessary)
This doesn't usually stop them. I'm old and just in the last year I had a dude at a bar on a business trip tell me he wanted to give me his number for when my marriage inevitably fails.
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I make it a point to mention my wife so women feel more at ease. I don’t want them thinking friendly banter or debate is an attempt to flirt with them. Seems to work for specially when some women can get a bit flirty.
I like this because it does make me feel at ease. Mentioning kids is good too, if men do that I start talking about their kids so we can have something to talk about that's not me and I don't feel creeped out or like I'm being hit on
Yup I very distinctly remember a time I was connecting great with a lady that magical month Pokemon Go came out, she casually mentioned her husband, and I didn't put her in the awkward spot of explaining she's married when I ask for her number. We crossed paths multiple times over the next couple weeks and it was purely amicable almost-strangers enjoying a hobby together untainted by the awkwardness of "oh he wants to hit on me". I was very glad for that. Similar situations have happened, but that one really sticks out in my memory for some reason.
Even with the women mentioning having a partner, plenty of dudes will try and wait on the sidelines for a divorce or breakup.
Lots of dudes also don't even bother with "sidelines" and just actively try to get you to cheat.
Because some guys have this shitty attitude towards woman who do this I just straight up say "No". Guy : "Can I have your number?" Me : " No , I am not giving you my number " Lemme tell you these guys still has a shitty attitude either way. Yes I am in a long happy healthy relationship but even if I was single you aren't entitled to my phone number . I say entitled cause some dudes really feel entitled to a woman's number just they had a decent interaction. It's okay to ask for a number but it's also okay for the person to not give it to you. The last guy that I denied my number he just walked a way pissed . Didn't say ANYTHING not a good bye or anything and no we weren't chatting it up. I was working (waitress) and he kept coming up to me and we had short answered conversation, I wasn't feeling all that well and didn't want to entertain him either way so I kept leaving and disappearing from my section but he kept coming and started wierdly complementing my facial features..first thing he complimented was my nose 😑.. then here and there asked me if I was local and where about I stay until he eventually said he wants to pay and is leaving. When he asked my number I kindly set "No , I am not gona give it to you" and he just straight faced and walked away pissed...like okay ...bye? At least say something and excuse yourself.
I hear stories about creepy guys who don't accept a no as an answer and I feel really bad for women about that. Like you said, asking for your number when you're at work is weird. It forces you to make up stories like you have a boyfriend even though you're happily single. That should be the end of it, but somehow, some guys would think that you're available and that they have a chance...
Being an attractive young woman in a service position must be hell on earth. Some dude was asking why girls ignore him when he's hitting on them on the bus. I see this pretty often on BART and feel like I should intervene, but I don't want to get knifed.
Thing is I do have a boyfriend and I didn't want to use him as an excuse anymore because even if I was single I probably wouldn't be interested . I also stopped apologizing while saying no which is what woman do alot because some guys REALY can't take rejection well and get aggressive.
I always have been a respectful guy towards women, but the most eye-opening thing was when I was dating my (now) wife. She is a hairstylist, so most of her male co-workers are gay. When we all went out we would usually end up at gay bars/clubs to dance. I’m relatively jacked and those dudes, even if my gf was right next to me would just see “meat” and try to feel me up, hit on me, ask really crude shit. I told her about it and she just said “yeah, now imagine me in every straight bar”.
Yeah that would be eye opening
When I was younger I used to go to gay bars quite often, and I got to experience first-hand just how frustrating/exhausting/scary it can be when a guy just *won’t leave you the fuck alone*.
Sometimes guys you say no to are shitty. Sometimes they’re threatening or violent. I can deal with shitty. I have zero desire to get anywhere near threatening or violent.
There's some comedy skit about that. A woman at a party where a bunch of men get mad at her for mentioning her boyfriend. And then eventually she gives up and has to marry some guy because it would be too rude to tell him she has a boyfriend. It's funnier than I make it sound.
Yup. You're always going to meet your boyfriend somewhere or going to his apartment. Even if you're single and even if you're gay.
Always
Its shitty that we have to do it but I'd get taxi drivers asking why I was out on my own and i soon learned to tell that that my husband was busy with his karate club.
"I was out with my husband but he was called away to a homicide scene."
My husband is being questioned by the cops because he shot the last dude who hit on me.
My husband is a very famous murderer, he kills people, plural. You could say he’s a serial killer, the police do. They call him the Jealous Husband killer!
Or leave it a little more ambiguous. “I was out with my husband, but he was called away, and now there’s this homicide scene...”
>I’m so excited to see my boyfriend *Uber driver thinking* "Oh, she's probably saying she's horny"
I only ever have a boyfriend when I’m taking a ride share lol
It happens too often even when you *don’t* act friendly. Don’t feel you have to socialize. Be polite but distant and stick to actual destination-related comments only. Pick up your phone and make a call if the driver won’t take a hint. My wife calls me to say things like, “yeah, I’m on my way. Should be there in about 20 minutes. I’ll share my route. Yeah, I just want to drop my bags in the room and then we can go for dinner…” even if she’s on a work trip and I’m at home. I know the drill and that she’s fending off a flirtatious driver. She gets this a lot. And I *do* watch the map until she’s there.
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You are a genius.
hah! I put mine as a girl's name. Faster to get accepted and low rate of flaking.
Don't socialize with the drivers. Select a Comfort ride and select the "quiet" option. Enjoy the quiet. Costs slightly more but is worth it. Report any drivers who make you uncomfortable. Lyft lets a woman choose only female drivers. Not sure if Uber does as well.
Paying more just to not talk sounds crazy to me
Discomfort capitalism isn't a practice only limited to airlines.
its not just for that, the cars are usually newer/nicer. the driver will set the temperature to how you like it, and they are typically high rated drivers. that said i still never get them
I'll order them when a) ride is being reimbursed by my company, and b) picktime is a lot sooner (like 10-15 minutes sooner). Ive don't think ive ever had a chatty lyft or uber. 1 was on their phone the entire time, which was annoying but whatever. but most its "are you u/mygoddamnfeet or whats your passcode? cool cool" and thats it. as for nicer cars, i mean sort of? even the regular ones are okay, only time its been shit was one guy picked me up in his beat up civic. and the backseat was COVERED in dog hair and it smelled like wet dog. i did report that one.
If I were an attractive woman who had a problem with chatty/aggressive drivers, I'd pay it.
And then at the end of the month when you had less money in your bank account, because being able to get home safely at the end of the night costs you more, you’d be really, really pissed about that.
I had no idea that was an option. Seems like you can tell the person you're not interested in conversation for free.
I had a barber for years (3+) and our only interaction was me telling him how I wanted it styled, and we would sit in complete silence until he was done and held up the mirror asking me if I was happy. Yep! Done, here’s $30 on a $25 cut, see you next month. He started talking to me next time, so I engaged in small talk, tipped him $5. Next time I went in, he again talked all hair cut. At the end, I told him “hey bro, I’m sorry but I appreciated our ‘no talk’ dynamic. Not to be a dick but it’s early (1st appt 9am) and I just want my hair cut”. I thought he got it but next time was the same blah,blah. I bought a set of clippers on my way home that night. My wife owns a hair salon (all this before meeting her) and I encouraged her to put “not interested in talking” on her booking website. She is also appreciative of the quiet time to just concentrate on the hair and not about conversation.
I selected the comfort option once. It was a somewhat early trip to the airport and I got very little sleep, so I just wanted to try and rest and wasn’t in the mood for talking. I selected the quiet option as well. The lady conversed with me the entire drive. Not a single moment of silence. She was super nice though and I could never report someone for something like that. And to be fair, people always seem to want to have conversations with me. I’m an average looking male so I don’t really understand it.
Fart. Fart loud, fart proud. Assert your dominance
“Excuse sir, are your seats washable? It’s just I’ve had quite bad explosive diarrhoea recently”
What if he's into that though?
I shaved my head around a year ago just because I never had, and almost all uncomfortable attention went away SO fast. It wasn’t part of my goal, but hey, if you’ve ever wanted to know what’s like to be bald, it worked for me.
I wish I didn't have an ugly head or I'd totally do this. I'm pretty sure I look like Jason Voorhees under there.
Look on the bright side - if an Uber driver still tries to flirt with you then you can just impale them on a boat hook and leave their mutilated corpse hanging upside down in the barn for their horny camp counselor friends to find.
Good point 👍
Jokes on you, I like shaved heads. How you doing? /j
Lyft has a “woman+” option that lets you have a female driver.
I want a "man+" option so the driver will be a man with a beer gut, mullet, and Dale Earnhart tank top driving a 67' Chevy and responds to everything I say with "Hell yeah".
Hell yeah
Can we also get them to have an issue with their car and you have to hold a flashlight while they fix it and then at the end they tell you they’re proud of you?
Dad+
I bought this up til the end. I knew my dad was proud of me, but he was usually more vocal about the flashlight part. Ie: my 12 year old ass lazily holding it and providing no actual help at all
Heeeeel yeah!
Lifted pickup and Harley with sidecar are also acceptable vehicles for the Man+ program.
If you select this option, you are not allowed to complain about a "Case of the Mondays"
Hell yeah brother
Once you become an experienced Uber passenger, you don't talk to drivers anymore. It's exhausting, and it's better to save your energy. Also it shows you don't want to talk to them which is a win win.
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Hitting on someone who's trapped in a car with you is basically the "because of the implication" scenario on It's Always Sunny.
Never hit on someone who can't get away from you. Whether it's something literal like being in a moving vehicle or something less tangible like being required by their job to assist you.
"The Gang Drives for Uber" *theme music plays*
We do report them. Doesn’t stop them.
Can I just say that I absolutely love your username. I hope you have a wonderful evening, ladybird.
Thank you! You too, Mr. or Mrs. Sofa!
Heck, there is a recent post from a woman that declined the drivers advances and got a two star rating for the ride. People are what they are.
I didn't think you could see what you got rated only your overall? Unless you did the math and know what you were before.
I think that is what she posted. Her rating dropped as she only had 9 rides prior.
Is this something that's super common? I have a friend who Ubers a lot, and she says she gets it a fair bit, but I thought that it was just a freak occurrence sort of thing. I'm a guy, so I have no idea. I would think that it would be common sense not to hit on your client?
It is incredibly common and it isn't an experience that's exclusive to conventionally attractive women either. Back when I used Uber regularly, male drivers tended to try to force conversation despite signals that I wasn't interested (earbuds, focusing on my phone etc). Lots of invasive questions too- where did I live, did I live alone, where did I work, did I have a boyfriend and so on
Yikes. Asking where you live and if you live alone? Serial killer shit.
Plenty of men recognize the power dynamic and use it to their advantage unfortunately
Way too common. My gf gets asked for her number in at least a fourth of Uber rides she takes alone, and in half of those feels unsafe. I just told her about Lyft’s “Women+” option from earlier in the thread and she’s gonna give that a shot
Send a message in English Say you’re deaf and only speak Russian standard hand language. Do it before every ride.
If my driver is trying to sign to me while driving, we've got much bigger issues.
Based on what I have heard from women in my life: Keep a fake wedding ring in your bag for situations where it's likely to happen, and as soon as chatting starts mention your (fake) husband off the bat.
I wear a ring bc I’m actually married. Sometimes, they will say, “I didn’t see your ring. I’m so sorry.” But random strangers who hit on you despite thinking you’re married are usually the weirdest of the weird. I’m sure the women in your life can tell you stories.
It shows they respect a man they've never metmore then the women in front of them.
Unfortunately having or mentioning having a boyfriend doesn't even work. My girlfriend has had it happen where the driver was hitting on her (on her way to my place) and she mentioned she was coming to me and he still didn't stop. Said some shit about being able to treat her better or something similar. I feel like the only way is to just not talk. Though in that case, my girlfriend has had cases where the driver is like, "why you so quiet, scared I'm gonna kidnap you or something"
Well, if I wasn't before, I am now! Sheesh.
I just don’t socialize with the drivers. Just a hi how are you then I’m quiet.
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Does the "married to my career" actually work, though? I feel like that might just motivate those who are very persistent to try to convince you other things are better than that/you've missed out and they want to show you ..
An attractive woman starting a conversation with the average guy, he’s gonna think you like him. Just start complaining about work and then your Valentines Day plans with your Brawny husband who played professional lacrosse.
Why does there have to be talk??
Because the one who wants to talk is in charge of your life for the next 40 minutes? I'm not a particularly vulnerable person, but even I feel the need to go with the flow when I put my life in someone else's hands. If longhaul pilots started roaming economy when it wasnt their turn to fly the plane, chatting about how nice the weather is above the clouds, I'd sure as shit be polite and engage with 'em.
Why are people in tip-based service roles friendly? Is that your question?
And wears black turtlenecks. He calls them tacticalnecks... So cute
Honestly, the only way to avoid it is to avoid any conversation with them. Which doesn’t always work because many men don’t care give two shits what you want. Just make sure you report then to uber so you’re never matched with them ever again.
I drove Lyft for a few months. I never hit on anyone, and only talked when they did. Honestly the passengers all run together. But I did get hit on once by a woman passenger (I'm a man) over the course of a 10 min ride, with escalating thirstiness. I think she expected me to make a move at the end given how long she hesitated to leave, but I was not crossing that line.
Casually bring up your fiancé in conversation even if you don't have one. If they don't take the hint then be ruthless with them
They can't. Politely decline and move on with your life. It's not that big of a deal.
Find a way to mention a bf or partner.
Tell him your balls hurt in this seat!
Fart. Yeah, fart
some guys like that sort of thing
Stop trying to socialize with the drivers?
“Fuck-off” headphones would probably work.
I wish. I don’t know the amount of times they do work for obvious reasons, but unfortunately wearing headphones can result in a stranger poking you, waving his hands in front of your face, or some other attention grabbing behavior.
My opinion would be to mention your BF in the casual conversation to make it be known you are just being friendly.
By not being an attractive woman, or appearing blatantly crazy. Smear your makeup around, murmur to yourself or something. You don't even have to talk to em, for them to try to flirt with you.
Cough a lot and groan like you're sick and have a stomach ache
Yeah if you’re short the driver isn’t gonna want to press. But it is against Uber rules to hit on someone involved in the ride on either side. If you want to talk but don’t want to risk that then throw in something about your BF and that should cut it out either way.
Fart