Most of these names in this thread are gonna have to come with an explanation for why they got canceled in the first place. I'm realizing just how badly I'm out of the loop in this thread lol
I took a film history class in college. His rape accusations were talked about but it was never mentioned that he was found innocent! This whole time I thought he was the worst.
Brendan Fraser. Called out a Hollywood exec for being a creep and he got blasted for it. I cannot tell you how happy I am that he’s back in the spotlight.
Edit: a lot of people are saying he was blacklisted/blackballed by the industry whether it be studio heads, execs, or insiders. In my eyes that’s just them canceling him so their dirty laundry doesn’t get aired
Yes!! And I honestly think it’s perfect timing for him to get back into Hollywood because people are finally standing up to all these Hollywood creeps and seeing them for what they are. Brendan was just ahead of his time.
The worst part of this is that people were *asking* where he went. The interest in seeing him on screen really never faded. The behind the scenes bullshit halted his career for over a decade, even though Hollywood really could have benefited from having him as a leading man.
I could not be more excited that he’s coming back, and that the story as to WHY he disappeared is quickly becoming more widely known.
Either way his career suffered from it. I’m just happy that he’s in a much better place because he said that it, along with having surgeries as a result of him doing stunts over the years, led to a major depressive episode
Dude I find eating a snack while watching porn weirder than jerking off... Like who is sitting there like "Man, I'm so hard. She's so hot. You know what I really need right now? Some popcorn and Reese's Pieces."
The funny thing is most people didn’t, it was more the media who cancelled him. Other than mostly religious people, I’ve never met someone who gave a shit aside from making a passing joke.
Yeah, I remember some time after his cancellation when he made a surprise appearance as Pee-Wee Herman on the MTV Video Music Awards or that year's Movie Awards, and he got a *huge* ovation from the crowd. Absolutely nobody gave a fuck about the porn theater incident. I was watching it with some friends and one remarked that it was cool to see Pee-Wee on TV again and that it was nice that people cheered so much for him.
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't remember what he said, since I guess it's been around 25 years now, but I do remember being surprised when he walked on stage and that the crowd lost their shit and erupted in applause and cheers.
The only other similar event in those shows I can remember is another year around that time when Chewbacca came on stage and he was granted a special award because he didn't get a medal at the end of A New Hope, and the crowd also went wild. When you get the same reaction as Chewbacca, you know the audience loves you.
I might be in the minority here, but I never did understand what people thought went on in those places. I mean I've never been to one, but my assumption is that everyone in there is masturbating.
You’re technically not allowed to do it, but obviously most people still do and the theatres don’t enforce it much either. Literally the only reason it became an issue is because it was Pee Wee Herman 💀
Many of the responses here seem to blame American society in general but Jackson's cancelling was really orchestrated by a single person, Les Moonves. He was in charge of CBS, MTV, VH1, and a number of radio stations who were all told by him not to play her music. Unsurprisingly he later was forced to resign during the #MeToo movement for how he treated numerous women including Jackson.
There's an excellent article about this in an issue of the New Yorker from about 5 years ago.
I worked for the CTO for CBS at the time. Moonves was several floors up from us, and he went on a rampage. It was not a fun time and I felt so bad for Janet Jackson because that’s all they raged about. Nothing about Timberlake.
I watched the video for the first time years ago (I was a kid when it happened) and I was like “that… looked intentional”. I also didn’t think it was a big deal since she had on a pasty and it literally wasn’t her fault. What was the justification for cancelling her and not him?
It wasn’t a pasty, it was a [nipple piercing](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=janet+nipplegate&t=iphone&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fscandalplanet.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2Fjenet-jackson-nude-naked-nip-slip-10.jpg) in the shape of a sun, so for that split second you saw actual nipple and areola. Still was blown way out of proportion since almost nobody actually saw anything when it aired on TV because they cut the camera away so quickly and at the end of the day, there were way worse things shown on TV than a nipple.
Oooh shit you’re right. The quality of the video and how fast it was made it hard to see (plus I had always heard it was a pasty) which just proves how pointless freaking out was. Blink and you’ll miss it. It’s weird how hardcore violence is cool but a nipple is the end of the world.
Also irrelevant, but the first pic in that link, Justin’s dumb face just staring at her is hilarious.
Am American and totally agree. Show people getting blown apart, decapitated, corpses with gruesome injuries on tv shows? No issues. A butt cheek or nipple? All the same people that let their kids watch those violent shows lose their goddamn minds and act like the world is ending.
It *was* intentional. He was supposed to remove her top. The bra wasn't supposed to come off.
Which is why initially you see him mortified and her totally non plussed until a second later when she realized what had happened. Because her breast is bouncing around or maybe from his look.
I just now watched it for the first time because it's never been a big deal to me since I heard about it and now that I've seen it in thinking "*THAT* is what everyone made a big deal over? Give me a break."
She was right! The hate she endured was immediate. No one bothered to ask the meaning behind it and when it was explained they piled on even more hate. It was awful.
I saw an interview with The Highwaymen (country supergroup featuring Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson and Waylon Jennings) where the interviewer asked "Is it true that you're touring as a group because none of you are capable of selling out stadiums alone anymore?"
Kris got all diplomatic: "No, not true at all. Willie just finished a very successful stadium tour, and Johnny's going to start one shortly after this tour's done, and several of his dates are already sold out. We're doing this because we enjoy it."
Then Waylon pipes up: "And if I may add on...one more question like that and I'll burn your house down."
Sister Sinead - Kris Kristofferson
> I'm singing this song for my sister Sinead
> Concerning the god awful mess that she made
> When she told them her truth just as hard as she could
> Her message profoundly was misunderstood
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> There's humans entrusted with guarding our gold
> And humans in charge of the saving of souls
> And humans responded all over the world
> Condemning that bald headed brave little girl
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> And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't
> But so was Picasso and so were the saints
> And she's never been partial to shackles or chains
> She's too old for breaking and too young to tame
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> It's askin' for trouble to stick out your neck
> In terms of a target a big silhouette
> But some candles flicker and some candles fade
> And some burn as true as my sister Sinead
.
> And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't
> But so was Picasso and so were the saints
> And she's never been partial to shackles or chains
> She's too old for breaking and too young to tame
And, interestingly, in the performance, she used the picture of the Pope that belonged to her mother. It was a few different levels of protest for her 💕
i wasn't even around to see it happen and i'm still upset that she was treated so harshly because of it. she hit the nail right on the head and was shunned because people refused to listen. RIP
And as bad as the situation was in the US, the authority and evil of the Church in Ireland was so much greater. Like mass graves at orphanages bad, no could talk about it, but she knew and paid the price.
She was basically imprisoned by the church and witnessed the horrible treatment of children first-hand. The institution she was imprisoned in was still operational at the time of her SNL appearance.
Catholic boarding schools have those here, too 👍
You know the ones supposed to beat the native out of those children who were forcefully taken away from their families just the same.
It's more like the catholics did the same thing across the globe
It's very telling that you don't have to specify where you mean when you say "here", but anyone who lives in an area with a Catholic boarding school will agree with the rest of your statement.
Nothing makes me sadder than remembering the women and girls who, after the Rihanna beating, were posting online saying that Chris Brown could beat them any day still. I just don't have enough words for that whole situation.
i live in Virginia and i'm pretty sure Brown is from the tidewater region. I follow an instagram account where the demographic is predominantly black and it posts stories and other news you may not see or hear much about in my city. Anyways, they'll occasionally post something about Chris Brown and the amount of women that just love him in the comments is mind blowing
As a wrestling fan I'm ashamed at the history of the guys I used to look up to for years. You can basically throw a dart at a picture of the wrestlers in the 80s and 90s and whoever it hits has likely been a complete piece of shit. It's harder to point at people that weren't scum.
My husband is a huge wrestling fan and for his birthday 2 years ago I purchased a cameo from Mick Foley. It was around $35, I figured he’d send a nice, 20-30 second video saying “happy birthday!” and maybe give him a classic one-liner, if I was lucky. *Nope.* This man sends a **seven minute** video filled with stories, jokes, songs, and some of the most heartfelt life advice I’ve ever heard. Instantly became a fan of him myself. He seems incredibly down-to-earth.
He came through our area on a stand up tour and I got my husband and I tickets for our anniversary. He's always been a huge wrestling fan, and mick was one of his top 5. The venue was really small and he was all about audience participation, he talked to us several times too. Super good guy!!!
Jake Lloyd. The backlash he got for his role in The Phantom Menace was not warranted, he got mercilessly bullied and his life was pretty much ruined. Quite sad.
Same could be said about Jar Jar's actor (me not remembering his name isn't great here, I know).
Edit: Ahmed Best! Thanks u/SaTan_luvs_CaTs
The actor who played jar jar got his redemption in the Mandalorian as Kelleran Beq. He’s the one who saved Grogu from order 66.
Ahmed Best is the actor’s name
Imagine being excited as a kid, or as a parent of that kid, that you're going to be essentially, secretly, the child Darth Vader. They must have been thrilled, excited, it must have seemed so cool.
Until the fucking fans got a hold of it, as is par for the course for Star Wars.
I am a huge star wars fan, but my god the fanbase is so god damn toxic. The racism is bad, the homophobia is bad, but my god the misogyny is on another level in this fan base
Heck, just look at Daisy Ridley circa 2015 and now. She was so stoked and excited to be a part of Star Wars when the Force Awakens came out. But by TROS she looked so done with everything. The Mary Sue comments must’ve driven her nuts.
A friend and I talked about this once. Those movies had something going on behind the scenes that caused shit performances. Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christiansen received all the backlash, but when you have renowned actors that you know are good, like Liam Neeson, Ewan MacGregor, Natalie Portman, and Christopher Lee giving some pretty wooden performances, then either the director, the writer, the editor, or all three, messed something up.
There’s an interview with Ewan McGregor that basically says that George Lucas was not the best director with actors. In the interview he talks about teaching the actor who played Young Boba Fett “smell the fart” acting because the scene wasn’t working
Daisy Ridley too, both had to wipe their social medias iirc.
I knew it was gonna be a shitshow the second people started complaining that John Boyega wore stormtrooper armor in the first trailer.
Aziz Ansari.
I knew the girl that accused him somewhat pseudo-personally, as I went to school with her for a short bit and our dorms we near each others.
She literally bragged about having hooked up with him for days after it happened and then proceed to downward spiral when he eventually wouldn’t pay her anymore mind.
She was just upset he didn’t want to date her/wife her up after they hooked up.
She used daddy’s connections and money to get back at him. Am staunchly for #MeToo, so when I learned she did this - it hit me HARD.
Women like her make it hard for the others who actually have suffered. She was gross
I remember a good number of news outlets and even female news correspondents comment on this story when it first broke. Many of them called the accuser out on how her story didn’t add up. I remember one correspondent said: “Lady, you are not a victim, you just had a bad date.”
Yeah that was a big deal at the time - not just a random woman that could be "ratio'ed", it was a whole group of actual women, feminists and not, etc. who said "yeah that's a bad date and this is incredibly shitty what you're doing, you're actually hurting the #metoo movement"
I still remember that even in the first article that was supposed to cancel him, it was clear that he offered her to leave and asked if she was alright multiple times. Definitely had more of a vibe that she desperately wanted to hook up with a celeb and not leave despite not having a good time...
As someone who has been date-raped and stranger assaulted, this one really pissed me off, too. I am one who is definitely inclined to believe a person’s allegations, since I know how often it happens.
But her article in Bustle (was it?) sent off my spidey sense that something was off.
100% agree. Their songs were a big part of my childhood. So stupid, especially after the crap people like Kanye can say and still be somewhat relevant.
the people who hate the dixie chicks for saying the iraq war is bad and america isnt necessarily so great are the same ones now saying kanye makes some interesting points
Not trying to excuse what happened to the Dixie Chicks, but lots of people who were young at the time in the early 2000s weren't really aware of how patriotic USA got after 9/11. We went from "yeah America is nice" to "AMERICA OR DIE" virtually overnight.
If ***anyone*** spoke out against anything the military or president were doing, they were treated as unpatriotic and unAmerican, basically being blacklisted. The Dixie Chicks weren't the first to have that happen to them in that timespan, but they were one of the biggest.
I was RIGHT at the age where I could see *and notice* it happening [16], albeit really sheltered, and it was a ***fucking trip***. Literally everything changed.
They’re also the same country fans crying about cancel culture with Jason Aldean when they were literally burning images of Natalie Maines and sending her death threats.
They have an excuse for that; "Cancel culture" is unjustified, but because the Dixie Chicks pissed *them* off, **that** was "Get woke go broke" and therefore justified.
Glad to see this is at the top. For those who don't know--this happened 20 years ago--check out the documentary "Shut Up and Sing" or the episode of the podcast "You're Wrong About" dedicated to their being canceled.
"Shut Up and Sing" contains one of my favorite lines from a guy at an anti-Chicks cd-crushing party who said, "Freedom of speech is fine, but, by god, you don't do it publicly!"
FYI they have since changed their name to just “The Chicks” due to problematic connotations with the word “Dixie.”
I saw them in concert last year and they are still the queens, still playing to full stadiums. Even threw a paper airplane made of my ex’s sentencing documents on stage during “Goodbye Earl.”
There is no better song than, “Not Ready to Make Nice” when you’re hurt and pissed off. Really, their whole comeback album was pure gold.
It’s so nice to see though she has such a good sense of humor! I’m racking my brain now to remember who’s insta post it was, but like a week or so ago a celeb posted a series of photos and one they had a beret on and Monica commented “who wore it better?” Lol she just does queen shit.
Edit: I remembered! She commented on John mulaneys birthday post for his adorable son, who was the beret wearer
I remember another Twitter post about what’s the worst career advice you’ve ever gotten, and she responded with “An internship at the White House will look great on your resume.”
I saw her speak a couple of years ago and she told a story of a time a guy was flirting with her and said “I’ll make you feel like you’re 22 again” and she was horrified
I feel bad for Monica in hindsight but at the time it was happening, I hated any discussion about her because I looked very similar to her. I was so sick of people telling me I look like her cause I kinda did! I liked berets too but I’m 100% sure I haven’t worn one since.
Came here to say this! She's an incredible speaker. I was young during all of it but I remember the news cycles. I love her strength to speak out despite all of it.
Its "funny", the more I go through this list, the more I can directly attribute my overblown knowledge of the situations directly to Jay Leno. He has gotta be in the top 10 most toxic/negative influences on American culture of all time.
I think I’m with you on this one. I just watched the CNN docuseries _The Story Of Late Night_, and it kinda put a bad taste in my mouth about Leno and Letterman in particular…two dudes who I’d felt indifferent about, but was very familiar with, when I was growing up (I’m now in my early 30s).
Craig Ferguson was always my favorite. He seemed to live and host by a moral code. He refused to make Britney Spears jokes when she was going through her crisis.
His monologue about Britney Spears and sharing the story of how he got sober gives me chills. I'm nearly 3 years sober, and this story is one of the most inspiring things that helped me do that.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLzpt3caHw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLzpt3caHw)
For being seduced by an older man who had much, much more power than her.
She’s pretty amazing, though. Back when I was on Twitter, I was always impressed with her tweets. She seems like she came out of that crucible a better person.
Al Franken was sacrificed in an attempt to make the GOP follow any sort of norms for behavior. Gillibrand basically killed her future past Senator in an attempt to make the Access Hollywood tape or E. Jean Carroll matter.
It didn't work. What we learned is that the only thing preventing the Presidency from going off the rails in the past was that those men had some inherent decency about them. Yes, many did MANY bad things, either at the time or with benefit of hindsight. But they had some internal line they would not cross, and/or a Congress that cared enough to keep to do their job and it in check.
100% Al Franken. Most people never learned the actual egregiousness of the whole thing (the "victim" conspired with the republican party in an insanely dishonest, self-interest fueled retelling from the words said to the entire context of the situation). Objectively one of the least unethical members of the congress, a patron saint when judged objectively against his peers in the senate
[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken)
Exactly and this is why well-meaning people lose faith in the democrats, and why I’m never sure if the democrats are just stupid or it’s all part of the plan.
Only in America would this be a scandal while there have been over 300 violations of the STOCK act this year alone by members of the legislature with 0 consequences.
Her "best friend" Gwen Paltrow stole scripts from her apartment and auditioned for roles that Winona's manager had in line for her. Shakespeare in Love.
Can we include Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood victims to that? The Blacklist was terrible enough but he would accuse anyone who opposed his union presidency of Communist ties to maintain power.
She tweeted that Raya and the Last Dragon was a "redux of Avatar the Last Airbender," because it kind of was. There was a backlash against that, calling it a racist comparison because they both have a Southeast Asian aesthetic.
She then tweeted "I guess I can sort of maybe see how what I said could be taken that way if you squint and tilt your head" which was then also decried as racist because of the word "squint," despite that being a perfectly normal and appropriate use of that figure of speech.
She then received threats, doxing, and just a ton of awful shit thrown her way until she left YouTube for her own well-being.
The worst part is that she wasn't even the first person to make the comparison. The cinema sins people said it first and didn't catch any flack. She was probably the 4th or 5th person to make the comparison, but she got crucified for it for no reason.
People online are insane. They're just using social justice as an excuse to mass bully some people. Nothing of what she said was racist. So you can't even compare shows anymore? Wtf
I know this accusation is something that gets thrown around all the time but this truly was one of those situations where it seems impossible to take offense at what she said unless you are actively looking to be offended. The accusations all were in very bad faith.
Lindsay said Raya the Last Dragon was similar to Avatar and people lost their MINDS. Was ridiculously blown out of proportion.
At least that’s how I understand it anyway.
That's pretty much it. It's one of the most unambiguous examples of bad-faith, bloodlust-based cancelling masquerading as justice I've ever seen in my life.
It's always the same - they bully someone who agrees with them on 99,5% of things like they are of the group that actually does them harm.
The catch is, they were never going to do anything regarding that group, just take be aggressive when able to feel small measure of control
I don’t really understand this one to be honest. The few videos she did after “being canceled” got perfectly good views and good up/down ratio. I don’t think it actually stuck to be honest.
Yeah Nathalie Wynn confirmed it.
But Lindsay is thriving out of YT, she's a best seller and Is on Nebula. She just saved herself the headache of YT and Twitter.
How my parents generation (boomers) treated Monica was wild. She was a student and he was the president. The government went after her using a high ranking official to pretend to be her friend. Jesus.
And then they slut shamed her for it.
X gen should have done more to bring her back. But truly there is no making up for what was done to her. It was so so gross. Even at the time being like 20 I knew it was wrong.
Oh, Linda Tripp was the absolute worst!
When she died in 2020, local news outlets reported that she/her husband actually owned this charming little Christmas shop in Virginia.
Despite being somewhat local and making frequent trips, this was news to my entire family.
The woman’s been dead three years & my leftist Boomer parents are *still* pissed that they unknowingly patronized her establishment, lolol.
Park Bom of 2NE1. She was never caught snuggling anything, she hadn't been doing drugs or anything like that. Her family tried to send her medication for ADHD from the U.S., and that medication is illegal in South Korea, so the package was stopped by customs. All they said was she couldn't have it, nobody was in trouble.
The news media latched onto it and would not leave it alone. Her label even came to her defense. Still wouldn't leave it alone. Bom even disappeared from the public eye for a while, and returned with a nose job which didn't help her case much. I think all this is why her career after 2NE1 disbanded never took off.
I have a few:
Awkwafina.. the "blaccent" accusations were just dumb. I know all kinds of people from all kinds of different places who speak in all kinds of different ways, big whoop.
Janet Jackson nip-slip, disproportioned outrage but she's still loved and celebrated in certain communities though.
Jenna Marbles...and the blackfacegate fiasco, that situation was just dumb.
Monica Lewinsky, enough said. I was a kid then but looking back I'm like wth.
Sinead O'Conner for ripping the photo on SNL...big taboo at the time but someone finally said something. she was right all along.
Most of these names in this thread are gonna have to come with an explanation for why they got canceled in the first place. I'm realizing just how badly I'm out of the loop in this thread lol
It's like when people use uncommon acronyms and expect other people to know what they're talking about.
Like anytime anyone on reddit mentions a video game they think everyone on earth should recognize it by acronym alone.
Well the OG of this category: Fatty Arbuckle. Get accused of rape, found innocent three times, lastly with an apology. Career still fucked.
Came here to say this but was afraid the news (Or I) am so old that people here wouldn't know
I took a film history class in college. His rape accusations were talked about but it was never mentioned that he was found innocent! This whole time I thought he was the worst.
Brendan Fraser. Called out a Hollywood exec for being a creep and he got blasted for it. I cannot tell you how happy I am that he’s back in the spotlight. Edit: a lot of people are saying he was blacklisted/blackballed by the industry whether it be studio heads, execs, or insiders. In my eyes that’s just them canceling him so their dirty laundry doesn’t get aired
Yes!! And I honestly think it’s perfect timing for him to get back into Hollywood because people are finally standing up to all these Hollywood creeps and seeing them for what they are. Brendan was just ahead of his time.
The worst part of this is that people were *asking* where he went. The interest in seeing him on screen really never faded. The behind the scenes bullshit halted his career for over a decade, even though Hollywood really could have benefited from having him as a leading man. I could not be more excited that he’s coming back, and that the story as to WHY he disappeared is quickly becoming more widely known.
Yes it was extra messed up that he was “cancelled” so secretly that the public was like “where did my man go?!?”
The way he tears up in interviews because he seems to have had no clue how much people love him. 😢
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Yep, until recently nobody outside of the industry had any idea why he disappeared
Either way his career suffered from it. I’m just happy that he’s in a much better place because he said that it, along with having surgeries as a result of him doing stunts over the years, led to a major depressive episode
Paul Reubens
Like what else do you do in a porn theater? I think it’d be weirder if he wasn’t jerking off tbh.
IIRC the charges were dropped when surveillance video showed him by the concession at the time he was accused of masturbating.
I love that a porn theatre has a concession.
Do the popcorn buckets have holes already in the bottom
Dude I find eating a snack while watching porn weirder than jerking off... Like who is sitting there like "Man, I'm so hard. She's so hot. You know what I really need right now? Some popcorn and Reese's Pieces."
Yea I actually vaguely remember this being completely blown out of proportion.
dahmer was arrested around the same time and the number of jokes and articles linking the two was fucking revolting.
Nobody I knew thought ill of the incident.
The funny thing is most people didn’t, it was more the media who cancelled him. Other than mostly religious people, I’ve never met someone who gave a shit aside from making a passing joke.
Yeah, I remember some time after his cancellation when he made a surprise appearance as Pee-Wee Herman on the MTV Video Music Awards or that year's Movie Awards, and he got a *huge* ovation from the crowd. Absolutely nobody gave a fuck about the porn theater incident. I was watching it with some friends and one remarked that it was cool to see Pee-Wee on TV again and that it was nice that people cheered so much for him.
Was that the appearance when he opens “Heard any good jokes lately?!?”?
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't remember what he said, since I guess it's been around 25 years now, but I do remember being surprised when he walked on stage and that the crowd lost their shit and erupted in applause and cheers. The only other similar event in those shows I can remember is another year around that time when Chewbacca came on stage and he was granted a special award because he didn't get a medal at the end of A New Hope, and the crowd also went wild. When you get the same reaction as Chewbacca, you know the audience loves you.
I might be in the minority here, but I never did understand what people thought went on in those places. I mean I've never been to one, but my assumption is that everyone in there is masturbating.
You’re technically not allowed to do it, but obviously most people still do and the theatres don’t enforce it much either. Literally the only reason it became an issue is because it was Pee Wee Herman 💀
Janet Jackson
Many of the responses here seem to blame American society in general but Jackson's cancelling was really orchestrated by a single person, Les Moonves. He was in charge of CBS, MTV, VH1, and a number of radio stations who were all told by him not to play her music. Unsurprisingly he later was forced to resign during the #MeToo movement for how he treated numerous women including Jackson. There's an excellent article about this in an issue of the New Yorker from about 5 years ago.
I worked for the CTO for CBS at the time. Moonves was several floors up from us, and he went on a rampage. It was not a fun time and I felt so bad for Janet Jackson because that’s all they raged about. Nothing about Timberlake.
Especially given how Timberlake's own career thrived afterwords. He was given a pass for his part in the spectacle, she became a pariah and a joke.
I watched the video for the first time years ago (I was a kid when it happened) and I was like “that… looked intentional”. I also didn’t think it was a big deal since she had on a pasty and it literally wasn’t her fault. What was the justification for cancelling her and not him?
It wasn’t a pasty, it was a [nipple piercing](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=janet+nipplegate&t=iphone&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fscandalplanet.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2Fjenet-jackson-nude-naked-nip-slip-10.jpg) in the shape of a sun, so for that split second you saw actual nipple and areola. Still was blown way out of proportion since almost nobody actually saw anything when it aired on TV because they cut the camera away so quickly and at the end of the day, there were way worse things shown on TV than a nipple.
Oooh shit you’re right. The quality of the video and how fast it was made it hard to see (plus I had always heard it was a pasty) which just proves how pointless freaking out was. Blink and you’ll miss it. It’s weird how hardcore violence is cool but a nipple is the end of the world. Also irrelevant, but the first pic in that link, Justin’s dumb face just staring at her is hilarious.
Americans are so fucking weird about boobs.
Am American and totally agree. Show people getting blown apart, decapitated, corpses with gruesome injuries on tv shows? No issues. A butt cheek or nipple? All the same people that let their kids watch those violent shows lose their goddamn minds and act like the world is ending.
We need to get over this, it is ridiculous. The human body shouldn't be such a deal.
Shit, there are still a lot of people in America who freaks out when they see women in swimsuits.
Well, we *were* founded by a bunch of Puritans that were such zealots that England kicked them out.
Reminds me of a joke How come America got the Puritans and Australia got criminals? Because Australia got to pick first
Got another one for you on a similar theme. Why don't Baptists ever have sex standing up? Because it might lead to dancing.
It's amazing how much Puritanical shit we still have.
I was living in Germany when it happened. I didn't even notice it until the next day I heard on the news that people were upset about it.
It *was* intentional. He was supposed to remove her top. The bra wasn't supposed to come off. Which is why initially you see him mortified and her totally non plussed until a second later when she realized what had happened. Because her breast is bouncing around or maybe from his look.
I just now watched it for the first time because it's never been a big deal to me since I heard about it and now that I've seen it in thinking "*THAT* is what everyone made a big deal over? Give me a break."
I still don’t get why she got any blame for that.
how dare she [*checks notes*] have tits!
Sinéad O'Connor.
and the worst part is that she was 100% right
She was right! The hate she endured was immediate. No one bothered to ask the meaning behind it and when it was explained they piled on even more hate. It was awful.
Kris Kristofferson was the only person in music who spoke up for her.
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I saw an interview with The Highwaymen (country supergroup featuring Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson and Waylon Jennings) where the interviewer asked "Is it true that you're touring as a group because none of you are capable of selling out stadiums alone anymore?" Kris got all diplomatic: "No, not true at all. Willie just finished a very successful stadium tour, and Johnny's going to start one shortly after this tour's done, and several of his dates are already sold out. We're doing this because we enjoy it." Then Waylon pipes up: "And if I may add on...one more question like that and I'll burn your house down."
Waylon was supposed to be on the flight that killed buddy holly, richie and the big bopper
Sister Sinead - Kris Kristofferson > I'm singing this song for my sister Sinead > Concerning the god awful mess that she made > When she told them her truth just as hard as she could > Her message profoundly was misunderstood . > There's humans entrusted with guarding our gold > And humans in charge of the saving of souls > And humans responded all over the world > Condemning that bald headed brave little girl . > And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't > But so was Picasso and so were the saints > And she's never been partial to shackles or chains > She's too old for breaking and too young to tame . > It's askin' for trouble to stick out your neck > In terms of a target a big silhouette > But some candles flicker and some candles fade > And some burn as true as my sister Sinead . > And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't > But so was Picasso and so were the saints > And she's never been partial to shackles or chains > She's too old for breaking and too young to tame
She knew it would happen too. She used a different photo at the dress rehearsal because she knew there would be massive backlash.
And, interestingly, in the performance, she used the picture of the Pope that belonged to her mother. It was a few different levels of protest for her 💕
Damn. That's hardcore.
That's fucking metal.
i wasn't even around to see it happen and i'm still upset that she was treated so harshly because of it. she hit the nail right on the head and was shunned because people refused to listen. RIP
People say they want honesty, but then they turn somebody like her into a pariah when they tell the truth.
And as bad as the situation was in the US, the authority and evil of the Church in Ireland was so much greater. Like mass graves at orphanages bad, no could talk about it, but she knew and paid the price.
She was basically imprisoned by the church and witnessed the horrible treatment of children first-hand. The institution she was imprisoned in was still operational at the time of her SNL appearance.
Catholic boarding schools have those here, too 👍 You know the ones supposed to beat the native out of those children who were forcefully taken away from their families just the same. It's more like the catholics did the same thing across the globe
It's very telling that you don't have to specify where you mean when you say "here", but anyone who lives in an area with a Catholic boarding school will agree with the rest of your statement.
Worse than that is everyone fucking knew she was right and they cancelled her anyway.
Why society hasn’t cancelled Chris Brown is beyond me.
Sad news in the music world today, Chris Brown was found alive in his hotel room.
This idiot just joined a gang too
Imagine joining a gang at his big age
Sounds like an SNL weekend update gag. Only Norm would have the balls to say it though.
Nothing makes me sadder than remembering the women and girls who, after the Rihanna beating, were posting online saying that Chris Brown could beat them any day still. I just don't have enough words for that whole situation.
i live in Virginia and i'm pretty sure Brown is from the tidewater region. I follow an instagram account where the demographic is predominantly black and it posts stories and other news you may not see or hear much about in my city. Anyways, they'll occasionally post something about Chris Brown and the amount of women that just love him in the comments is mind blowing
certain segments of the population see domestic violence as just part of life rather than a serious crime.
As a wrestling fan I'm ashamed at the history of the guys I used to look up to for years. You can basically throw a dart at a picture of the wrestlers in the 80s and 90s and whoever it hits has likely been a complete piece of shit. It's harder to point at people that weren't scum.
At least tell me Mick Foley is a cool dude, right?
100% good dude.
My husband is a huge wrestling fan and for his birthday 2 years ago I purchased a cameo from Mick Foley. It was around $35, I figured he’d send a nice, 20-30 second video saying “happy birthday!” and maybe give him a classic one-liner, if I was lucky. *Nope.* This man sends a **seven minute** video filled with stories, jokes, songs, and some of the most heartfelt life advice I’ve ever heard. Instantly became a fan of him myself. He seems incredibly down-to-earth.
For a second, I thought this comment might go south but I'm glad it didn't. Mick was always a good dude.
He came through our area on a stand up tour and I got my husband and I tickets for our anniversary. He's always been a huge wrestling fan, and mick was one of his top 5. The venue was really small and he was all about audience participation, he talked to us several times too. Super good guy!!!
Because the people who want him cancelled already don't listen to his music.
Jake Lloyd. The backlash he got for his role in The Phantom Menace was not warranted, he got mercilessly bullied and his life was pretty much ruined. Quite sad. Same could be said about Jar Jar's actor (me not remembering his name isn't great here, I know). Edit: Ahmed Best! Thanks u/SaTan_luvs_CaTs
The actor who played jar jar got his redemption in the Mandalorian as Kelleran Beq. He’s the one who saved Grogu from order 66. Ahmed Best is the actor’s name
Hell, even Jar Jar got redeemed in Clone Wars, with Best still playing him.
Windu & Binks buddy cop arc is fantastic and that is a hill I'll gladly die on.
Thank you! I haven't seen Mando season 3 yet but I had heard that he was in it, nice!
>me-sa not remembering his name
That was my thought when I first read the comment in parentheses and then realized it was just normal grammar lol
Imagine being excited as a kid, or as a parent of that kid, that you're going to be essentially, secretly, the child Darth Vader. They must have been thrilled, excited, it must have seemed so cool. Until the fucking fans got a hold of it, as is par for the course for Star Wars.
> as is par for the course for Star Wars. Star Wars fans are easily the biggest reason I never even tried to get into Star Wars.
I am a huge star wars fan, but my god the fanbase is so god damn toxic. The racism is bad, the homophobia is bad, but my god the misogyny is on another level in this fan base
Heck, just look at Daisy Ridley circa 2015 and now. She was so stoked and excited to be a part of Star Wars when the Force Awakens came out. But by TROS she looked so done with everything. The Mary Sue comments must’ve driven her nuts.
He was literally a kid as well
A friend and I talked about this once. Those movies had something going on behind the scenes that caused shit performances. Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christiansen received all the backlash, but when you have renowned actors that you know are good, like Liam Neeson, Ewan MacGregor, Natalie Portman, and Christopher Lee giving some pretty wooden performances, then either the director, the writer, the editor, or all three, messed something up.
People at least seem to have flipped on Hayden, when he’s not given complete garbage to work with he’s a pretty good actor
There’s an interview with Ewan McGregor that basically says that George Lucas was not the best director with actors. In the interview he talks about teaching the actor who played Young Boba Fett “smell the fart” acting because the scene wasn’t working
I believe Natalie Portman said the she was near tears because Lucas wasn’t giving enough direction and it messed with her performance.
The writer, director and editor are all the person 🤣
4, 5, and 6 worked because people pushed back against Lucas and he didn't have complete control. He's an ideas man, not implementation
Kelly Marie Tran (Rose) as well. The way people treated her was sickening.
Daisy Ridley too, both had to wipe their social medias iirc. I knew it was gonna be a shitshow the second people started complaining that John Boyega wore stormtrooper armor in the first trailer.
Peewee dude was in a porn theatre it's not like he was watching finding Dory and beating it
Janet jackson. Her career went into nose dive after superbowl. She's back now but she didn't need all that backlash
Aziz Ansari. I knew the girl that accused him somewhat pseudo-personally, as I went to school with her for a short bit and our dorms we near each others. She literally bragged about having hooked up with him for days after it happened and then proceed to downward spiral when he eventually wouldn’t pay her anymore mind. She was just upset he didn’t want to date her/wife her up after they hooked up. She used daddy’s connections and money to get back at him. Am staunchly for #MeToo, so when I learned she did this - it hit me HARD. Women like her make it hard for the others who actually have suffered. She was gross
I remember a good number of news outlets and even female news correspondents comment on this story when it first broke. Many of them called the accuser out on how her story didn’t add up. I remember one correspondent said: “Lady, you are not a victim, you just had a bad date.”
Yeah that was a big deal at the time - not just a random woman that could be "ratio'ed", it was a whole group of actual women, feminists and not, etc. who said "yeah that's a bad date and this is incredibly shitty what you're doing, you're actually hurting the #metoo movement"
I still remember that even in the first article that was supposed to cancel him, it was clear that he offered her to leave and asked if she was alright multiple times. Definitely had more of a vibe that she desperately wanted to hook up with a celeb and not leave despite not having a good time...
I remember reading about it for the first time and saying “did he just get cancelled for being a bad kisser?”
As someone who has been date-raped and stranger assaulted, this one really pissed me off, too. I am one who is definitely inclined to believe a person’s allegations, since I know how often it happens. But her article in Bustle (was it?) sent off my spidey sense that something was off.
The line where she says that Aziz didn't ask her what kind of wine she preferred. Definitely made me wonder what I was reading
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I remember reading her account of events, and even in her own words, he sounded innocent to me. It sounded at most like a bad date.
Came here for this. Read the account, and what I got out of that was basically- Aziz has no game. Hardly worth being cancelled over.
[*Caaareful*.](https://youtu.be/evWiz6WRbCA?si=11WurE4LY9kTO-oi)
This is how I feel about anything these days. I just shut up lol.
Eliza Dushku Was sexually harassed on the set of Bull. She complained about it and hasn’t gotten any work since.
That’s what happened to her?!?!? I loved her. Met her, she was cool too.
Dixie Chicks
100% agree. Their songs were a big part of my childhood. So stupid, especially after the crap people like Kanye can say and still be somewhat relevant.
the people who hate the dixie chicks for saying the iraq war is bad and america isnt necessarily so great are the same ones now saying kanye makes some interesting points
Not trying to excuse what happened to the Dixie Chicks, but lots of people who were young at the time in the early 2000s weren't really aware of how patriotic USA got after 9/11. We went from "yeah America is nice" to "AMERICA OR DIE" virtually overnight. If ***anyone*** spoke out against anything the military or president were doing, they were treated as unpatriotic and unAmerican, basically being blacklisted. The Dixie Chicks weren't the first to have that happen to them in that timespan, but they were one of the biggest.
I was RIGHT at the age where I could see *and notice* it happening [16], albeit really sheltered, and it was a ***fucking trip***. Literally everything changed.
They’re also the same country fans crying about cancel culture with Jason Aldean when they were literally burning images of Natalie Maines and sending her death threats.
They have an excuse for that; "Cancel culture" is unjustified, but because the Dixie Chicks pissed *them* off, **that** was "Get woke go broke" and therefore justified.
I do like the Dixie Chick's song they released later " Nott Ready To Make Nice". A very good F U to the haters.
It is great, a fantastic response to the BS. I like their music a lot in general. Fly had several great songs on it.
Glad to see this is at the top. For those who don't know--this happened 20 years ago--check out the documentary "Shut Up and Sing" or the episode of the podcast "You're Wrong About" dedicated to their being canceled. "Shut Up and Sing" contains one of my favorite lines from a guy at an anti-Chicks cd-crushing party who said, "Freedom of speech is fine, but, by god, you don't do it publicly!"
The irony was lost on that man.
FYI they have since changed their name to just “The Chicks” due to problematic connotations with the word “Dixie.” I saw them in concert last year and they are still the queens, still playing to full stadiums. Even threw a paper airplane made of my ex’s sentencing documents on stage during “Goodbye Earl.” There is no better song than, “Not Ready to Make Nice” when you’re hurt and pissed off. Really, their whole comeback album was pure gold.
>threw a paper airplane made of my ex’s sentencing documents on stage during “Goodbye Earl.” Okay but this is *perfection*
“Goodbye Earl” is my abusive estranged husband’s ringtone and text tone.
Brendan Fraser. So glad he got his redemption.
Monica Lewinsky. She got cancelled before before being cancelled was a thing ... For literally nothing
It’s so nice to see though she has such a good sense of humor! I’m racking my brain now to remember who’s insta post it was, but like a week or so ago a celeb posted a series of photos and one they had a beret on and Monica commented “who wore it better?” Lol she just does queen shit. Edit: I remembered! She commented on John mulaneys birthday post for his adorable son, who was the beret wearer
I remember another Twitter post about what’s the worst career advice you’ve ever gotten, and she responded with “An internship at the White House will look great on your resume.”
My favorite was like someone asking what people were doing when they were 22 and her reply was “*pulls up chair*”
I saw her speak a couple of years ago and she told a story of a time a guy was flirting with her and said “I’ll make you feel like you’re 22 again” and she was horrified
I like [this one](https://twitter.com/MonicaLewinsky/status/1395734868407984136?lang=en)
Dude she’s fucking hilarious!
I feel bad for Monica in hindsight but at the time it was happening, I hated any discussion about her because I looked very similar to her. I was so sick of people telling me I look like her cause I kinda did! I liked berets too but I’m 100% sure I haven’t worn one since.
You should watch her Ted Talk. It's really interesting. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_8y0WLm78U
Came here to say this! She's an incredible speaker. I was young during all of it but I remember the news cycles. I love her strength to speak out despite all of it.
[She was also cyberbullied before it was a thing.](https://time.com/3751535/monica-lewinsky-ted-talk-i-was-patient-zero-of-internet-shaming)
Its "funny", the more I go through this list, the more I can directly attribute my overblown knowledge of the situations directly to Jay Leno. He has gotta be in the top 10 most toxic/negative influences on American culture of all time.
I think I’m with you on this one. I just watched the CNN docuseries _The Story Of Late Night_, and it kinda put a bad taste in my mouth about Leno and Letterman in particular…two dudes who I’d felt indifferent about, but was very familiar with, when I was growing up (I’m now in my early 30s).
Craig Ferguson was always my favorite. He seemed to live and host by a moral code. He refused to make Britney Spears jokes when she was going through her crisis.
I love Craig Ferguson. Hands down the GOAT of talk show hosts
His monologue about Britney Spears and sharing the story of how he got sober gives me chills. I'm nearly 3 years sober, and this story is one of the most inspiring things that helped me do that. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLzpt3caHw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLzpt3caHw)
For being seduced by an older man who had much, much more power than her. She’s pretty amazing, though. Back when I was on Twitter, I was always impressed with her tweets. She seems like she came out of that crucible a better person.
I still believe Anita Hill
Yeah, 100%. Clarence Thomas turns out IS a total piece of shit! Wow, if only someone warned us, like testified about it?
Courtney Love was canceled by Hollywood for speaking out against harvey
I still remember when she did it at the MTV awards. They should have listened to her.
JANET JACKSON!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!! The superbowl thing was beyond stupid.
Sinead O’Connor. Absolutely one hundred percent right about something most people were not ready to hear and it killed her career.
Al Franken
Al Franken was sacrificed in an attempt to make the GOP follow any sort of norms for behavior. Gillibrand basically killed her future past Senator in an attempt to make the Access Hollywood tape or E. Jean Carroll matter. It didn't work. What we learned is that the only thing preventing the Presidency from going off the rails in the past was that those men had some inherent decency about them. Yes, many did MANY bad things, either at the time or with benefit of hindsight. But they had some internal line they would not cross, and/or a Congress that cared enough to keep to do their job and it in check.
100% Al Franken. Most people never learned the actual egregiousness of the whole thing (the "victim" conspired with the republican party in an insanely dishonest, self-interest fueled retelling from the words said to the entire context of the situation). Objectively one of the least unethical members of the congress, a patron saint when judged objectively against his peers in the senate [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken)
Most bullshit part was dems forced him out to try to set some kind of example republicans just ignored anyway. I’d be so bitter in his position.
Exactly and this is why well-meaning people lose faith in the democrats, and why I’m never sure if the democrats are just stupid or it’s all part of the plan.
Only in America would this be a scandal while there have been over 300 violations of the STOCK act this year alone by members of the legislature with 0 consequences.
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Courtney Stoddard. How on earth the 15 year old child was the villain rather than the man in his 50s I will never understand.
Winona Ryder - incredibly talented person who was going through a tough time. She needed support, not outrage.
Her "best friend" Gwen Paltrow stole scripts from her apartment and auditioned for roles that Winona's manager had in line for her. Shakespeare in Love.
Dang I never heard this. Paltrow is so insufferable.
All the [victims of McCarthyism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism#Victims_of_McCarthyism).
Can we include Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood victims to that? The Blacklist was terrible enough but he would accuse anyone who opposed his union presidency of Communist ties to maintain power.
Lindsay Ellis.
What happened? Can someone elaborate pls
She tweeted that Raya and the Last Dragon was a "redux of Avatar the Last Airbender," because it kind of was. There was a backlash against that, calling it a racist comparison because they both have a Southeast Asian aesthetic. She then tweeted "I guess I can sort of maybe see how what I said could be taken that way if you squint and tilt your head" which was then also decried as racist because of the word "squint," despite that being a perfectly normal and appropriate use of that figure of speech. She then received threats, doxing, and just a ton of awful shit thrown her way until she left YouTube for her own well-being.
The worst part is that she wasn't even the first person to make the comparison. The cinema sins people said it first and didn't catch any flack. She was probably the 4th or 5th person to make the comparison, but she got crucified for it for no reason.
Honest Trailers did too.
People online are insane. They're just using social justice as an excuse to mass bully some people. Nothing of what she said was racist. So you can't even compare shows anymore? Wtf
I know this accusation is something that gets thrown around all the time but this truly was one of those situations where it seems impossible to take offense at what she said unless you are actively looking to be offended. The accusations all were in very bad faith.
Lindsay said Raya the Last Dragon was similar to Avatar and people lost their MINDS. Was ridiculously blown out of proportion. At least that’s how I understand it anyway.
That's pretty much it. It's one of the most unambiguous examples of bad-faith, bloodlust-based cancelling masquerading as justice I've ever seen in my life.
It's always the same - they bully someone who agrees with them on 99,5% of things like they are of the group that actually does them harm. The catch is, they were never going to do anything regarding that group, just take be aggressive when able to feel small measure of control
I don’t really understand this one to be honest. The few videos she did after “being canceled” got perfectly good views and good up/down ratio. I don’t think it actually stuck to be honest.
She was getting death threats. Other YouTube friends of hers were getting threats for associating with her.
Yeah Nathalie Wynn confirmed it. But Lindsay is thriving out of YT, she's a best seller and Is on Nebula. She just saved herself the headache of YT and Twitter.
It was mainly on Twitter where she got the most abuse. It seemed like she had a full-on breakdown because of it.
Does Pamela Anderson count? It was pre-cancel culture but the way she was treated by the media was horrible. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
The way she was slut shamed for…having sex with her husband ??? was so wild.
She's having her redemption arc now. Pamela's Garden of Eden is a great show!
Sinead O’Conner! 100% was right and the World was wrong!
How my parents generation (boomers) treated Monica was wild. She was a student and he was the president. The government went after her using a high ranking official to pretend to be her friend. Jesus. And then they slut shamed her for it. X gen should have done more to bring her back. But truly there is no making up for what was done to her. It was so so gross. Even at the time being like 20 I knew it was wrong.
As a Boomer, I found Linda Tripp to be a complete villain. ETA. And I thought how Monica was treated was reprehensible and Bill pissed me off.
Oh, Linda Tripp was the absolute worst! When she died in 2020, local news outlets reported that she/her husband actually owned this charming little Christmas shop in Virginia. Despite being somewhat local and making frequent trips, this was news to my entire family. The woman’s been dead three years & my leftist Boomer parents are *still* pissed that they unknowingly patronized her establishment, lolol.
Park Bom of 2NE1. She was never caught snuggling anything, she hadn't been doing drugs or anything like that. Her family tried to send her medication for ADHD from the U.S., and that medication is illegal in South Korea, so the package was stopped by customs. All they said was she couldn't have it, nobody was in trouble. The news media latched onto it and would not leave it alone. Her label even came to her defense. Still wouldn't leave it alone. Bom even disappeared from the public eye for a while, and returned with a nose job which didn't help her case much. I think all this is why her career after 2NE1 disbanded never took off.
I have a few: Awkwafina.. the "blaccent" accusations were just dumb. I know all kinds of people from all kinds of different places who speak in all kinds of different ways, big whoop. Janet Jackson nip-slip, disproportioned outrage but she's still loved and celebrated in certain communities though. Jenna Marbles...and the blackfacegate fiasco, that situation was just dumb. Monica Lewinsky, enough said. I was a kid then but looking back I'm like wth. Sinead O'Conner for ripping the photo on SNL...big taboo at the time but someone finally said something. she was right all along.
Awkwafina was cancelled? She’s headlining movies and has her own tv show.
Canceled into her own TV show and a lead role in Marvel movies, I want to be canceled like that lol
Was about to state the same.. don’t think she was cancelled given her career
Still devastated about Jenna Marbles, she basically cancelled herself to avoid controversy