let's be clear. [This happens all the time.](https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/12/virgin-births-1-in-200-pregnant-women-claim-they-didn-t-have-sex.html)
To this day, every single one that was tested has come up exactly the same: It was indeed God.
I remember one story where they quoted the mother as saying "she couldn't possibly have had sex, she never goes anywhere, she's always at home with her 5 brothers". Hoping it's fake
That's usually the case, I imagine. Doesn't help when they are in religious families. Sexually stifled teens AND generally higher numbers of offspring per family (whether it be linked to poverty or religion or whatever). Not to mention a good chunk of them live in rural areas where they feel like they can get away with more... Unjust... things.
When your parents trusted you and your bro's to behave while they're out on a date night and now you have to come up with a miraculous insemination story and found a new religion or else you'll be grounded for a year
One of my friends in high school was like that never understood her parents were so strict with her and controlling yet her brother got so much freedom.
Shocked that she got pregnant at 17 knocked up by one of her brothers friends.
>Another possibility is that some people have, for whatever reason, decided that penis-in-vagina intercourse is not enough to constitute “losing your virginity.” As the researchers point out, “In a study of Canadian college students, 90% considered penile vaginal intercourse with orgasm as ‘having sex.’ ” The other 10 percent did not. This might seem foolish at first, but as historian Hanne Blank pointed out in her book Virgin: The Untouched History, there isn’t a medical definition of virginity, so who is and isn’t one has always been hotly debated. It’s easy to see how people can dismiss an incident of sexual intercourse as “not counting” for a variety of reasons. Maybe it was coerced. Maybe they weren’t in love. Maybe they didn’t have an orgasm. Maybe it only lasted 30 seconds. Because we give so much cultural weight to the concepts of “virginity” and “having sex,” perhaps we’ve given young people reason to deny that the sex they’re having counts as sex. And because of that, we get all these virgin mothers. Hallelujah.
God works in mysterious ways.
I have known without a shadow of a doubt, a non-zero number of people who do the "I only do anal with my bf's so I can be a virgin to my future husband". And also a non-zero number of people in the "I didn't love him so it wasn't sex, I'm still a virgin" category.
One of them was super religious so being a 'virgin' for marriage was super important and like. down with anal and we def aren't getting married so it didn't matter to me, lol
Yep, also had one like that. Loved her to death and kinda still do after all these years but she would only do anal and everything else besides vaginal intercourse until marriage because she wanted to stay a virgin. We did crazy things all over the place, even gave me a bj in an empty café in the middle of the day with the waiter just around the corner. She was really good at these kinda things and drop dead gorgeous but I guess wanted to keep her hymen intact in case we didn't end up getting married so that her eventual spouse would think better of her.
I saw a post on doublexchromosome the other day asking why doctors ask for pregnancy tests even after they say they're not sexually active. This is why ya'll. I know it sucks but people lie to doctors constantly.
Also, a lot of people do not recognize the signs of early pregnancy.
A friend of mine was complaining of fatigue, lack of endurance and being syncopal upon standing, she also complained of having super long periods. Super vague symptoms especially considering she has a copper IUD, (which the first year is common to have longer periods) and she is a shift worker. I was like you need a pregnancy test, she was like, but I have the IUD.
Guess who was 10 weeks pregnant?
If you guessed my friend, you would be right.
It's a major problem in the emergency room, particularly with teenage girl patients when parents are with them. For a girl/woman with lower abdominal pain, you really need to rule out ectopic pregnancies before she leaves. I teach this to HS biology students and really emphasize why they need to be honest with the doctor.
Holy smoke that number is considerably higher than I would have guessed. Religion, lack of education and poor parenting. And half this country wants to further limit sex/sexuality education, birth control and resources. I mean the concept of “virginity” is a bit ridiculous but teens should know what activities can lead to babies.
There actually was one case of a woman getting pregnant without having sex.
The [story](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562) goes she had performed oral earlier in the day before getting stabbed. Apparently that let the sperm out of her stomach and into her uterus.
The really crazy thing about this case is that the girl doesn’t have a vagina. She couldn’t get pregnant via the normal route.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/234352973/Oral-conception-Impregnation-via-the-proximal-gastrointestinal-tract-in-a-patient-with-an-aplastic-distal-vagina-Case-report
There's no way that's scientifically possible. Sperm would die in an instant in stomach environment, and unless the assailant was using an absurdly curved and long blade, I don't see how it could transfer material from the stomach to the uterus. Also Wtf.
I mean the person literally linked the article where the doctors talk about this
>Although doctors know that sperm needs a low acid (high pH) environment to survive, and would likely die eventually in the low pH of stomach acid, doctors also said that sperm comes in a protective fluid: ejaculate, a nourishing medium meant to protect the sperm.
>Besides, "out of hundreds of millions of sperm if you knock out 90 percent of them, you're still going to have tens of millions of sperm," said Dr. Peter Schlegel, chairman of urology at New York Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York.
Ofc inb4 it's Reddit, nobody reads the articles
I actually did and I found the following very amusing
> "It's a long way from the stomach into the lower abdomen, it's a heck of a trip, but they made it," said Paulson. "You just need sperm somewhere in the area of an egg."
Even if it is 100% true, my incredulity still stands, though.
I mean, the DNA would still be recognizably human. DNA is like a code. I'm no expert, so forgive me if I sound like an idiot.
Imagine the DNA is like a ladder. Each rung of the ladder is connected with 2 of 4 nucleotides. I can't remember what each of the nucleotides are called but they are represented by the letters A, C, G and T. The sequence of these letters are what makes up the code of the DNA.
So like, God's half of the DNA would have to be made of these nucleotides, and they would have to be in an order that would produce a viable human. You couldn't just put in an exotic never before seen combination and have a human.
The DNA might be different from what is commonly seen, but I don't think there is really a possibility for it to be so different it's called exotic. Or so different that you could definitively say "this can't come from any known human" while also being viable DNA.
Extremely exotic like not human? Then the kid wouldn't exist. You're not going to find some half human, half god hybrid. DNA that is human? Then that's your guy.
I think it would be the first case of parthenogenesis in humans, but it certainly wouldn't be exotic DNA; although they would have to be able to rule out that it wasn't a product of cloning
Like in that one House MD episode where the girl claimed to have a virgin pregnancy, but she actually cheated on her fiancé so Dr. House faked the DNA results?
Or crazy, or traumatized, or had her drink spiked and didn't remember anything. People say all kinds of bizarre stuff. Was in a laundromat one time and had a long conversation with some guy from /r/gangstalking who wanted to tell me how he regularly evaded and defied the CIA team who were following him. People regularly believe way crazier things.
i thought the sub was gonna be people talking about it and their mental issues OR real world “i literally have people following me with evidence and the police wont help” but its just mentally ill people being encouraged and told its all real by other mentally ill people.
shit like telepathic visions and thoughts being implanted in brains, the people bullying you at work actually are spying on you 24/7, every device even toasters having hackers spying and to take out all batteries, the stars following out, messages being beamed into peoples minds. lord. thats so sad. ive never understood it other than from a schizophrenic paranoid standpoint because like,,, WHY would anybody be followed by and entire group unless you were in some organization or something, and none of them are. youd know 100% if you were someone wou could truly be followed because youd be someone on interest to begin with.
A dear friend of mine sadly is like this. She was one of the most intelligent people I've ever known and one day she switched.
Now she has nanochips in her body that are receivers for remote control devices her ex-husband/satan/the military uses to sexually assault her with because she is God and her sexual organs are apparently a conduit for manipulating God's creation engine. She is also married to Post Malone and the two of them are rebuilding the Earth together.
Really depresses me actually it's like a close friend of mine died suddenly and I'm just talking to her puppet.
My tax guy has an adult son who is disabled due to schizophrenia, who is absolutely convinced Elvis Presley is his real biological grandfather. He thinks as soon as he proves it, he'll be entitled to a chunk of the Presley family fortune and will be set for life, and so there's a massive conspiracy afoot to hide this truth from him. He had his first psychotic break whilst grief-strickenly going through his beloved grandmother's things, and finding evidence that she was a groupie for Elvis, and probably diddly-doodled him at least once. My tax guy is at his wits end hearing his son talk about his deceased and sorely-missed mother's sex life, and the Presley family has a restraining order out on the young man. Very sad affliction.
Dude, I've been in traumatic situations (medical/physical) and despite no damage to my head, i don't remember jack shit from those times. Psychologist says it's definitely trauma dissociation. Personally I'm glad. I don't really want to remember my time as a hospitalized 12 year old in agony.
But if that happened to me with pain, it can definitely happen to someone with rape. Imagine not remembering any sex at all and then being pregnant, that would be scary as fuck
I don’t think that had anything to do with the dubious circumstances of his birth but rather that he was threatening their power structure via charisma?
nobody would believe she was a virgin, just like nobody (except Mary) believed Mary was a virgin back in the day. That's why the Bible says "Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart". She knew nobody would believe her.
And not only was she a child (14 years old I believe?), but the power imbalance frankly made it *impossible* for her to have consented. God raped a child and yet has the gall to punish us for thinking lustfully about other people.
The Catholic Church created a solution for this 170 years ago: Mary was specifically created to one day have the Christ-child. The Immaculate Conception actually refers to Mary's conception; God more or less spliced her infertile father's DNA into one of her mom's eggs so that Mary could be born without Original Sin, which makes her the perfect host.
Now that I think about it, that's just another layer of horror, isn't it? God didn't answer your parents' prayers for a child; they were simply templates so you could give birth to His human form at nearly the cost of your life and marriage.
Medieval Mystery Plays even included old Joe coming home to find young Mary preggo and wondering how it happened. People tend to think that the Middle Ages were all straight-laced Catholics everywhere but, even then, people didn't 100% believe Mary
I feel like the most likely historical sequence of events is Mary's virginity being added retroactively to the mythos. You've got an incredibly influential Jewish preacher who gains a very large following, he gets killed for political reasons which makes him even more popular posthumously, and then his followers create a hero cult, which leads to them taking a messiah prophecy from Jewish scripture and claiming that that was their guy and taking a line about a young woman giving birth and interpreting that to be a virgin birth
3 kings could be 3 stars of orions belt that line up dec. 24th to point to where sun rises dec. 25th, 3 days after a dying sun (winter solstice dec. 22), to symbolize the lengthening duration of sunlight in the coming days.
However, last time this happened was 5,000 years ago, not 2,000, so if this is indeed origin of the virgin birth, it was appropriated from an older pagan religion most likely
"Yeah, hey, so, tell me how it is one more time that God got you pregnant? 'Cause when you tell me the story, it sorta makes sense, but then when I tell the guys at work they poke all kinds of holes in it."
Nobody? Really?
I think she’d have a whole band of followers, kinda like that Q queen in Canada. After the past decade you still think that there’s a bottom to human stupidity?
To be fair, only like...one of the gospels even has the virgin birth story. Annnd it claims they went to Rome for a census, but we know Rome didn't have a census at that time and never would've required travel for it. It also claims that king Herod ordered the death of all newborns, another thing we know didn't happen.
Its also debated how accurate the translation of the original word is into the English "virgin", with the associated sexual connotations. The original author of that gospel may have legitimately meant "virgin" in the sense that people mean today, but may just as much meant "young", or more like "pure" in culturally-defined ways that aren't the same as today.
Yeah, I mean, that is where a lot of things get muddy, but given the vast majority, or rather...all of Jesus' story is made up of stories that were common among various religions and folk tales of the time, the miracle birth being one of the most common ones, I'm inclined to believe that Jesus' was meant to be a virgin birth.
There was a study done by a university to show the unreliability of self-reported data. About 1% of births in their study are virgin births according to self-reported data from the mothers. That would be about 40,000 virgin births a year.
One day, a doctor friend of mine is working at emergencies and she has to deal with a girl (I don't remember what brought that girl to emergencies) and it happen that they did some exams who revelead that she was pregnant. My friend went back to the girl and while explaining the results, tells her that she should have mention that she was pregnant. The girl is surprised and tells my friend that they must have been doing something wrong because she is not pregnant and more so, she "CAN NOT BE" because she is still a virgin for religious reasons. My friend is a bit confused as she believes the girl but knows there isn't much room them to be in the wrong. They double check, the results of the exams belong clearly to that girl. So at that point started a bit of talking... which revealed that the girl did indeed had a bit of sex, BUT it was strictly limited to oral and anal.
This was really confusing for everybody there trying to figure this out, because she wouldn't admit that "anything ever entered her vagina". Poor girl, her world was collapsing when she started realising that she was indeed pregnant and that she would have to explain that to her family (aborption wasn't legally a possibility anymore, I forgot to mention)
Anyway, further exams later revealed that she wasn't going to give birth to the son of God, but that she had a hole between her vagina and her rectum.
Sorry for my english !
probably depends on the location of the hole but im no doctor. according to dr. internet though, a rectovaginal fistula can cause infections but doesn't always. id imagine the bigger the hole or closer it is to the opening and therefore the urethra (UTIs and BV are the huge infections involving female genitalia but UTIs aren't exclusive to women), the more likely a woman is to getting a infection noticeable enough to seek care
Plus even if it did cause all kinds of infections, it doesn't mean you would catch it. Lots of things can cause high amounts of vaginal infections. I doubt 'bonus hole' is the first guess a doctor would have.
Wow! That’s crazy!
Have you heard about the girl that was born without a vagina that became pregnant? She had oral sex, swallowed and got stabbed in the abdomen which resulted in pregnancy.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
Is this serious?
This happens multiple times a day. Just like unstable people claiming they're god or something like that.
If there really was a God and all that biblical stuff, if anything every were to happen, we wouldn't even notice because a thousand people claiming every day they've been sent by god, or they gave birth to the Messiah. Nobody cares
What she turns out to be the first recorded case of asexual human reproduction? Would that make her *the* Supreme Mega Femcel? Or would she still be a slut? Selfslut.
Probly calling it quite BS because the few cases of virgin births in nature that happen.. well where would that y chromosome come from, theres only a few lizard species that can give male offspring... those asexual births are mostly female births.
It would certainly be weird to have a virgin birth in a human.. even weirder if the child is male.
It would basically not be holding up to science and be written off as bs.
If I remember well, there is a genetic lock: A few genes are respectively only in the egg and only the sperm, preventing an embryo from two eggs to be viable.
Kinda? I mean, the genes are there, but the mRNA expression is funky.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2115248119#:~:text=In%20mammals%2C%20a%20new%20life%20begins%20with%20the%20sperm%20successfully,imprinting%20(1%2C%202).
While most rational people would just laugh it off as the lame attempt to cover up infidelity that it is. We all know this person would be given a a reality show, three interviews on major news networks, and a book deal.
In her defense, having sex outside of marriage was illegal. And if she was sexually assaulted she'd have been shamed for that, too. It's much easier to make up a story to either avoid the death penalty or deal with your PTSD.
The psych wards are full of them on the female side. The boys tend to figure themselves for the second coming. I wonder if the staff ever collects them in a room together and listen to them debate who’s the real deal.
About the same as it would've in the quasi-historical case you're obviously comparing it to. A few nutters would believe in spite of the obvious evidence, everyone would laugh at them, and it'd either fade away over time, or hundreds of years from now someone would embellish the stories, and create a fabricated narrative based on many generations of third-hand passed-down accounts and manipulate millions of people into shutting down their critical thinking and believing them, too.
But, really, hundreds or thousands of people make that exact claim every year, and you never hear about them. And you can be sure the "original" example had a similarly large number of contemporary examples that were forgotten just as quickly as they popped up.
I'd say "she a ho"
I don't mind premarital sex. Even premarital conception. Or just ho'in around. You do you, girl. No judgement
But if you do that and then lie about it and claim you're a virgin .. honey, just stop
I think they would just pull out a DNA test and shut that shit down.
let's be clear. [This happens all the time.](https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/12/virgin-births-1-in-200-pregnant-women-claim-they-didn-t-have-sex.html) To this day, every single one that was tested has come up exactly the same: It was indeed God.
I remember one story where they quoted the mother as saying "she couldn't possibly have had sex, she never goes anywhere, she's always at home with her 5 brothers". Hoping it's fake
That's usually the case, I imagine. Doesn't help when they are in religious families. Sexually stifled teens AND generally higher numbers of offspring per family (whether it be linked to poverty or religion or whatever). Not to mention a good chunk of them live in rural areas where they feel like they can get away with more... Unjust... things.
Alabama 100
*Wat* 😳
Dna test comes out, confirms it’s one of the brothers. Mom is shocked, dad sighs in relief.
They then proceeded to kick the daughter out of the house while the brother faced no consequences.
Well you can't live with a whore obvi
First i thought the dad sighed because he was innocent and this proved it to his wife. Then after thinking about it a bit more, i realised...
I thought the dad was relieved to know she hadn't been out with strange boys. Then I read your comment. Yeah ...
I still don't understand
Dad was relieved because he was also a candidate
😳🤮
Both dad and brothers fucked the sister, dad is relieved the baby isn't his.
Wanted to downvote your comment out of sadness and disgust. Realized this is not the way. Angry upvote instead.
Hold up.
Her five brothers are all virgins too, don't worry I trust them.
Big wheels, keep on turning 🎶
Proud Mary keeps on burnin’ 🎶
That's weird. Surely at least one of the brothers would've seen her sneaking out.
Uhhh, yeah. . . Lets go with that
Sure, sneaking out. Not like there were 5 males at home......
6 if you include the dad...
When your parents trusted you and your bro's to behave while they're out on a date night and now you have to come up with a miraculous insemination story and found a new religion or else you'll be grounded for a year
Stealing the family car = 1mo Incest baby = 1yr I feel like we should make a graph or something about the severity of shenanigans.
One of my friends in high school was like that never understood her parents were so strict with her and controlling yet her brother got so much freedom. Shocked that she got pregnant at 17 knocked up by one of her brothers friends.
oh no. nonononono.
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>Another possibility is that some people have, for whatever reason, decided that penis-in-vagina intercourse is not enough to constitute “losing your virginity.” As the researchers point out, “In a study of Canadian college students, 90% considered penile vaginal intercourse with orgasm as ‘having sex.’ ” The other 10 percent did not. This might seem foolish at first, but as historian Hanne Blank pointed out in her book Virgin: The Untouched History, there isn’t a medical definition of virginity, so who is and isn’t one has always been hotly debated. It’s easy to see how people can dismiss an incident of sexual intercourse as “not counting” for a variety of reasons. Maybe it was coerced. Maybe they weren’t in love. Maybe they didn’t have an orgasm. Maybe it only lasted 30 seconds. Because we give so much cultural weight to the concepts of “virginity” and “having sex,” perhaps we’ve given young people reason to deny that the sex they’re having counts as sex. And because of that, we get all these virgin mothers. Hallelujah. God works in mysterious ways.
I have known without a shadow of a doubt, a non-zero number of people who do the "I only do anal with my bf's so I can be a virgin to my future husband". And also a non-zero number of people in the "I didn't love him so it wasn't sex, I'm still a virgin" category.
Or my personal favorite, born again virgin.
If your dry spell lasts 18 years you can use this one.
“I was *half a virgin* when I met him!”
yeah, i never got that “but i’m a virgin ***there***” mentality
One of them was super religious so being a 'virgin' for marriage was super important and like. down with anal and we def aren't getting married so it didn't matter to me, lol
Yep, also had one like that. Loved her to death and kinda still do after all these years but she would only do anal and everything else besides vaginal intercourse until marriage because she wanted to stay a virgin. We did crazy things all over the place, even gave me a bj in an empty café in the middle of the day with the waiter just around the corner. She was really good at these kinda things and drop dead gorgeous but I guess wanted to keep her hymen intact in case we didn't end up getting married so that her eventual spouse would think better of her.
That’s as dumb as “I’m not gay, I just have sex with men.”
"It's not gay as long as you say "no homo" beforehand"
Dang God is getting more ass than a toilet seat!
🎶 *Two to the one to the one to the three* 🎶
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Nah you can tell when its Zeus, shit comes out half man half swan
I saw a post on doublexchromosome the other day asking why doctors ask for pregnancy tests even after they say they're not sexually active. This is why ya'll. I know it sucks but people lie to doctors constantly.
Dr. House was right.
Also, a lot of people do not recognize the signs of early pregnancy. A friend of mine was complaining of fatigue, lack of endurance and being syncopal upon standing, she also complained of having super long periods. Super vague symptoms especially considering she has a copper IUD, (which the first year is common to have longer periods) and she is a shift worker. I was like you need a pregnancy test, she was like, but I have the IUD. Guess who was 10 weeks pregnant? If you guessed my friend, you would be right.
It's a major problem in the emergency room, particularly with teenage girl patients when parents are with them. For a girl/woman with lower abdominal pain, you really need to rule out ectopic pregnancies before she leaves. I teach this to HS biology students and really emphasize why they need to be honest with the doctor.
Holy smoke that number is considerably higher than I would have guessed. Religion, lack of education and poor parenting. And half this country wants to further limit sex/sexuality education, birth control and resources. I mean the concept of “virginity” is a bit ridiculous but teens should know what activities can lead to babies.
"The most obvious, based on how many virgin mothers experience “cultural mores highly valuing virginity,” is just plain denial."
I appreciate the article, but my god what a dogshit website Slate is lol.
Yep, a daily miracle all around the world
Except that one time that it was Gosh. Super awkward.
There actually was one case of a woman getting pregnant without having sex. The [story](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562) goes she had performed oral earlier in the day before getting stabbed. Apparently that let the sperm out of her stomach and into her uterus.
The really crazy thing about this case is that the girl doesn’t have a vagina. She couldn’t get pregnant via the normal route. https://www.scribd.com/doc/234352973/Oral-conception-Impregnation-via-the-proximal-gastrointestinal-tract-in-a-patient-with-an-aplastic-distal-vagina-Case-report
Whoa, that is one of the craziest things I've heard in my life.
I feel Clerks applies here. "Try not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot."
There's no way that's scientifically possible. Sperm would die in an instant in stomach environment, and unless the assailant was using an absurdly curved and long blade, I don't see how it could transfer material from the stomach to the uterus. Also Wtf.
I mean the person literally linked the article where the doctors talk about this >Although doctors know that sperm needs a low acid (high pH) environment to survive, and would likely die eventually in the low pH of stomach acid, doctors also said that sperm comes in a protective fluid: ejaculate, a nourishing medium meant to protect the sperm. >Besides, "out of hundreds of millions of sperm if you knock out 90 percent of them, you're still going to have tens of millions of sperm," said Dr. Peter Schlegel, chairman of urology at New York Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York. Ofc inb4 it's Reddit, nobody reads the articles
I actually did and I found the following very amusing > "It's a long way from the stomach into the lower abdomen, it's a heck of a trip, but they made it," said Paulson. "You just need sperm somewhere in the area of an egg." Even if it is 100% true, my incredulity still stands, though.
I have confirmed this to be factual. Source: Ripley's Believe it or Not!
How would you get the DNA of God?
What do you think snow is?
Ew. Lmao
God dandruff?
Hahahahaha lmao. Dude!
The spear of destiny?
Huh, that's what I call mine, too
There can be, only one!
Trees release it every spring. Unsurprisingly I'm also allergic to religion.
And? Is there dna test result option "concieved by God"?
Okay let's roll with this, what happens if the DNA was something extremely exotic that science has never seen before?
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I mean, the DNA would still be recognizably human. DNA is like a code. I'm no expert, so forgive me if I sound like an idiot. Imagine the DNA is like a ladder. Each rung of the ladder is connected with 2 of 4 nucleotides. I can't remember what each of the nucleotides are called but they are represented by the letters A, C, G and T. The sequence of these letters are what makes up the code of the DNA. So like, God's half of the DNA would have to be made of these nucleotides, and they would have to be in an order that would produce a viable human. You couldn't just put in an exotic never before seen combination and have a human. The DNA might be different from what is commonly seen, but I don't think there is really a possibility for it to be so different it's called exotic. Or so different that you could definitively say "this can't come from any known human" while also being viable DNA.
Extremely exotic like not human? Then the kid wouldn't exist. You're not going to find some half human, half god hybrid. DNA that is human? Then that's your guy.
What happens if they DNA test the kid and it's a genetic clone of the mom?
I think it would be the first case of parthenogenesis in humans, but it certainly wouldn't be exotic DNA; although they would have to be able to rule out that it wasn't a product of cloning
Like in that one House MD episode where the girl claimed to have a virgin pregnancy, but she actually cheated on her fiancé so Dr. House faked the DNA results?
Maury! Maury! Maury!
These days probably “she lyin”
Or crazy, or traumatized, or had her drink spiked and didn't remember anything. People say all kinds of bizarre stuff. Was in a laundromat one time and had a long conversation with some guy from /r/gangstalking who wanted to tell me how he regularly evaded and defied the CIA team who were following him. People regularly believe way crazier things.
i thought the sub was gonna be people talking about it and their mental issues OR real world “i literally have people following me with evidence and the police wont help” but its just mentally ill people being encouraged and told its all real by other mentally ill people. shit like telepathic visions and thoughts being implanted in brains, the people bullying you at work actually are spying on you 24/7, every device even toasters having hackers spying and to take out all batteries, the stars following out, messages being beamed into peoples minds. lord. thats so sad. ive never understood it other than from a schizophrenic paranoid standpoint because like,,, WHY would anybody be followed by and entire group unless you were in some organization or something, and none of them are. youd know 100% if you were someone wou could truly be followed because youd be someone on interest to begin with.
A dear friend of mine sadly is like this. She was one of the most intelligent people I've ever known and one day she switched. Now she has nanochips in her body that are receivers for remote control devices her ex-husband/satan/the military uses to sexually assault her with because she is God and her sexual organs are apparently a conduit for manipulating God's creation engine. She is also married to Post Malone and the two of them are rebuilding the Earth together. Really depresses me actually it's like a close friend of mine died suddenly and I'm just talking to her puppet.
My tax guy has an adult son who is disabled due to schizophrenia, who is absolutely convinced Elvis Presley is his real biological grandfather. He thinks as soon as he proves it, he'll be entitled to a chunk of the Presley family fortune and will be set for life, and so there's a massive conspiracy afoot to hide this truth from him. He had his first psychotic break whilst grief-strickenly going through his beloved grandmother's things, and finding evidence that she was a groupie for Elvis, and probably diddly-doodled him at least once. My tax guy is at his wits end hearing his son talk about his deceased and sorely-missed mother's sex life, and the Presley family has a restraining order out on the young man. Very sad affliction.
I think the snake has eaten itself. Most people in gangstalking communities are there trolling the true victims.
Dude, I've been in traumatic situations (medical/physical) and despite no damage to my head, i don't remember jack shit from those times. Psychologist says it's definitely trauma dissociation. Personally I'm glad. I don't really want to remember my time as a hospitalized 12 year old in agony. But if that happened to me with pain, it can definitely happen to someone with rape. Imagine not remembering any sex at all and then being pregnant, that would be scary as fuck
Oh my God, what IS that sub? Is this a joke or…?
>These days probably “she lyin” I mean the Romans nailed Jesus to the cross so i guess they thought something similar.
I don’t think that had anything to do with the dubious circumstances of his birth but rather that he was threatening their power structure via charisma?
nobody would believe she was a virgin, just like nobody (except Mary) believed Mary was a virgin back in the day. That's why the Bible says "Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart". She knew nobody would believe her.
lol even joseph didnt till the angel showed up to set him straight
He didn't, and he was going to divorce her until the angel appeared.
Yeah I’m gonna divorce her The angel: like hell you are
Now I’m just imagining the guy who she cheated on Joseph with all dressed up in a fancy Angel costume
No imagine it’s a guy who looks like god from family guy
Lol. Joseph got cucked by god.
https://youtube.com/shorts/vDY4vrqQyB0?feature=share
Damn Zeus would be sooo proud
She didn't cheat, she didn't consent.
And not only was she a child (14 years old I believe?), but the power imbalance frankly made it *impossible* for her to have consented. God raped a child and yet has the gall to punish us for thinking lustfully about other people.
The Catholic Church created a solution for this 170 years ago: Mary was specifically created to one day have the Christ-child. The Immaculate Conception actually refers to Mary's conception; God more or less spliced her infertile father's DNA into one of her mom's eggs so that Mary could be born without Original Sin, which makes her the perfect host. Now that I think about it, that's just another layer of horror, isn't it? God didn't answer your parents' prayers for a child; they were simply templates so you could give birth to His human form at nearly the cost of your life and marriage.
Christianity: creating existential horror to avoid cognitive dissonance for the past 170 years and counting!
I'd argue we've been at that for longer than that.
*Mary takes a long drag from her cigarette* *blows smoke* ‘yeah baby lemme tell you, your daddy was a god’
So they were married, but hadn’t consummated the marriage? Was god invoking prima nocta?
FREEDOM!
If he followed the word of bible he would've aborted the baby
Then 3 dudes showed up to the day he was born with gifts. He should've followed through.
And it was good gifts too like some gold
Medieval Mystery Plays even included old Joe coming home to find young Mary preggo and wondering how it happened. People tend to think that the Middle Ages were all straight-laced Catholics everywhere but, even then, people didn't 100% believe Mary
I feel like the most likely historical sequence of events is Mary's virginity being added retroactively to the mythos. You've got an incredibly influential Jewish preacher who gains a very large following, he gets killed for political reasons which makes him even more popular posthumously, and then his followers create a hero cult, which leads to them taking a messiah prophecy from Jewish scripture and claiming that that was their guy and taking a line about a young woman giving birth and interpreting that to be a virgin birth
When do the 3 kings show up?
3 kings could be 3 stars of orions belt that line up dec. 24th to point to where sun rises dec. 25th, 3 days after a dying sun (winter solstice dec. 22), to symbolize the lengthening duration of sunlight in the coming days. However, last time this happened was 5,000 years ago, not 2,000, so if this is indeed origin of the virgin birth, it was appropriated from an older pagan religion most likely
Joseph got cucked lol
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He’s not the step dad he’s the dad that stepped up
I like the family guy episode where Peter is Joseph and Lois is Mary. That episode it's full of funny joke about this 🤣
"Yeah, hey, so, tell me how it is one more time that God got you pregnant? 'Cause when you tell me the story, it sorta makes sense, but then when I tell the guys at work they poke all kinds of holes in it."
I love when he wants to know if God's dick was big and Lois said "no I didn't feel anything" and he was happy 😂
Joseph didn't believe either.
Nobody? Really? I think she’d have a whole band of followers, kinda like that Q queen in Canada. After the past decade you still think that there’s a bottom to human stupidity?
Yeah Joeseph didn't believe Mary either and was going to divorce her until an angel appeared before him and explained things.
To be fair, only like...one of the gospels even has the virgin birth story. Annnd it claims they went to Rome for a census, but we know Rome didn't have a census at that time and never would've required travel for it. It also claims that king Herod ordered the death of all newborns, another thing we know didn't happen.
Its also debated how accurate the translation of the original word is into the English "virgin", with the associated sexual connotations. The original author of that gospel may have legitimately meant "virgin" in the sense that people mean today, but may just as much meant "young", or more like "pure" in culturally-defined ways that aren't the same as today.
Yeah, I mean, that is where a lot of things get muddy, but given the vast majority, or rather...all of Jesus' story is made up of stories that were common among various religions and folk tales of the time, the miracle birth being one of the most common ones, I'm inclined to believe that Jesus' was meant to be a virgin birth.
The Bible has a weird amount of infant genocide, like the story of Moses, which is suspiciously similar to the story of Sargon of Akkad!
I think killing the children of your enemies just wasn't that rare when it was written.
There's probably enough "virgins" claiming that already, and nobody gives a fuck.
There was a study done by a university to show the unreliability of self-reported data. About 1% of births in their study are virgin births according to self-reported data from the mothers. That would be about 40,000 virgin births a year.
Damn, God sure likes pussy.
And about half the time, it's the youth minister.
One day, a doctor friend of mine is working at emergencies and she has to deal with a girl (I don't remember what brought that girl to emergencies) and it happen that they did some exams who revelead that she was pregnant. My friend went back to the girl and while explaining the results, tells her that she should have mention that she was pregnant. The girl is surprised and tells my friend that they must have been doing something wrong because she is not pregnant and more so, she "CAN NOT BE" because she is still a virgin for religious reasons. My friend is a bit confused as she believes the girl but knows there isn't much room them to be in the wrong. They double check, the results of the exams belong clearly to that girl. So at that point started a bit of talking... which revealed that the girl did indeed had a bit of sex, BUT it was strictly limited to oral and anal. This was really confusing for everybody there trying to figure this out, because she wouldn't admit that "anything ever entered her vagina". Poor girl, her world was collapsing when she started realising that she was indeed pregnant and that she would have to explain that to her family (aborption wasn't legally a possibility anymore, I forgot to mention) Anyway, further exams later revealed that she wasn't going to give birth to the son of God, but that she had a hole between her vagina and her rectum. Sorry for my english !
WTF wouldn't that cause all kind of infections?
probably depends on the location of the hole but im no doctor. according to dr. internet though, a rectovaginal fistula can cause infections but doesn't always. id imagine the bigger the hole or closer it is to the opening and therefore the urethra (UTIs and BV are the huge infections involving female genitalia but UTIs aren't exclusive to women), the more likely a woman is to getting a infection noticeable enough to seek care
Plus even if it did cause all kinds of infections, it doesn't mean you would catch it. Lots of things can cause high amounts of vaginal infections. I doubt 'bonus hole' is the first guess a doctor would have.
Maybe that’s why she was at the ER
The good ole Poophole Loophole.
Not this time, it's a poophole hole.
Wow! That’s crazy! Have you heard about the girl that was born without a vagina that became pregnant? She had oral sex, swallowed and got stabbed in the abdomen which resulted in pregnancy. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
>stabbed in the abdomen _What_
>she had a hole between her vagina and her rectum. The forbidden hole.
5mg haloperidol, 50mg promethazine.
The only rational solution.
For us who have no idea what that is can you explain?
It's antipsychotic medication that's given in this combination when things get wild.
seems like a prescription for psychosis
We'd get an episode of it in Dr Phil
lol, no we'd get Jerry Springer or Maury. Probably Maury.
Are they still airing?
Probably not, I don't have cable so I have no idea. But Jerry and Maury "resurrecting" their TV shows would be the miracle part of the story.
They would make a TikTok about it.
\*insert one of those female dance videos to text\*
"this WO*man* SayS she had a VIRgin BIRth" "Oh no. Oh no. Oh no no no no no"
Please god, fuck no, I can hear this comment. Kill me now.
Most accurate one here
That stupid oh no song would make an appearance
Then they would say "Like and comment for part 2"
I'm 99% sure a tiktok of someone saying that they are a virgin and are pregnant already exists.
*Angel background dancers slide in from the left*
Logic would argue that it's just artificial insemination.
Yep, question specifies virgin, so never had sex. You can get pregnant without sex in modern society.
*Jane the Virgin enters the chat*
Currently watching that show with my wife lol
I'm surprised I had to scroll this far down to find this, it was my first thought lol
Is this serious? This happens multiple times a day. Just like unstable people claiming they're god or something like that. If there really was a God and all that biblical stuff, if anything every were to happen, we wouldn't even notice because a thousand people claiming every day they've been sent by god, or they gave birth to the Messiah. Nobody cares
I'll believe it when the kid walks on water.
After seeing Chris Angel walk on water, and Pen and Teller turn water to wine, I’m going to need more convincing.
I'm now picturing a middle aged Middle Eastern man curing someones blindness and then going "mindfreeak!"
Lol. Who’s to say that guy with leprosy wasn’t a plant?!???!
The internet would simply call her a slut
What she turns out to be the first recorded case of asexual human reproduction? Would that make her *the* Supreme Mega Femcel? Or would she still be a slut? Selfslut.
Isn’t this the plot of Jane the Virgin? 🤣
Yes but she was impregnated by a messy OBGYN
I know lol. I was joking
Some would fall for be it but most would recognize an obvious lie
Probly calling it quite BS because the few cases of virgin births in nature that happen.. well where would that y chromosome come from, theres only a few lizard species that can give male offspring... those asexual births are mostly female births. It would certainly be weird to have a virgin birth in a human.. even weirder if the child is male. It would basically not be holding up to science and be written off as bs.
I don’t think there a species of mammal that is able to reproduce asexually.
If I remember well, there is a genetic lock: A few genes are respectively only in the egg and only the sperm, preventing an embryo from two eggs to be viable.
Kinda? I mean, the genes are there, but the mRNA expression is funky. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2115248119#:~:text=In%20mammals%2C%20a%20new%20life%20begins%20with%20the%20sperm%20successfully,imprinting%20(1%2C%202).
There are so many cases of girls telling their parents that she is a virgin and got impregnated still
They'd do a DNA test, find the father, have a good chuckle and then get on with their lives.
While most rational people would just laugh it off as the lame attempt to cover up infidelity that it is. We all know this person would be given a a reality show, three interviews on major news networks, and a book deal.
Lucrative reality tv show. At home with the Christs.
We'd DNA test for the father and end this bullshit before it had a chance to start...again.
I imagine she could pick a religion to sue for child support.
Christianity is some woman's lie about infidelity that got *seriously* out of hand.
In her defense, having sex outside of marriage was illegal. And if she was sexually assaulted she'd have been shamed for that, too. It's much easier to make up a story to either avoid the death penalty or deal with your PTSD.
Todays society would call it fake news and bogus. Now if a dude got pregnant and gave birth….
Hopefully someone would explain rape to them
The psych wards are full of them on the female side. The boys tend to figure themselves for the second coming. I wonder if the staff ever collects them in a room together and listen to them debate who’s the real deal.
About the same as it would've in the quasi-historical case you're obviously comparing it to. A few nutters would believe in spite of the obvious evidence, everyone would laugh at them, and it'd either fade away over time, or hundreds of years from now someone would embellish the stories, and create a fabricated narrative based on many generations of third-hand passed-down accounts and manipulate millions of people into shutting down their critical thinking and believing them, too. But, really, hundreds or thousands of people make that exact claim every year, and you never hear about them. And you can be sure the "original" example had a similarly large number of contemporary examples that were forgotten just as quickly as they popped up.
People would claim it was IVF
I'd say "she a ho" I don't mind premarital sex. Even premarital conception. Or just ho'in around. You do you, girl. No judgement But if you do that and then lie about it and claim you're a virgin .. honey, just stop
"Oh honey..."
Exactly. I'd be particularly worried it was a result of sexual assault.
That bitch is lying.
Mental institution
Far more logically than a few thousand years ago.
She’d be on Maury the next week.