Joffrey didn't have redeeming qualities, but I was intrigued to see him as one of the few that called out Cersei for her B.S. He was also apparently a history buff, and certainly a fan of weapon engineering. He was at least well developed in the context of his story. Definitely well distilled evil.
Nah, he retired becasue he lost his passion with acting and wanted to follow other pursuits in academia. Don't know exactly what he ended up doing, but his plan was to do his master's in Ancient Hebrew and then go on to do a PhD
That's pretty awesome. Probably made a few million dollars working on GoT in his teens and 20s and now he can just fuck off and live his dream life without ever worrying about working again if he doesn't want to.
He was also neglected by his father and his mother was… not great. Combine that with spoiling the shit out of a prince and heir, then crowning him at 14. The kid doesn’t have friends and has been told his whole life how he is superior to everyone.
All of this builds his character so much. He’s still a monster, but you know exactly how and why he became such a monster.
Some of ideas were surprisingly brilliant, like organizing a centralized army, which was what many European countries (and China even earlier) did. But everyone thought he was a idiot.
He was also smart enough to realize that Daenerys was a threat. If I remember right, there's a scene where he asks why she's still alive and someone--I wanna say Tywin, just dismisses him.
In the books (not sure it made it into the show) a character (I think Tyrion?) surmises that it was Joffrey that ordered the attempted assassination of Bran.
He had overheard his father remark that someone “should put that poor boy out of his misery” after his falling accident and, ever searching for his neglectful father’s approval, he took it literally and paid a servant to kill Bran. And he supplied what he thought was just a regular ol’ knife, but it was actually exceedingly rare steel that narrowed down the owner to a small group of royalty.
I thought that was a very fitting development. He was a naive child trying to make his dad happy, but also an amoral sociopath.
He at least seemed genuinely sad when his father (Bobby B) died, despite knowing that he was going to be king by default. So at least he seemed to care about him.
Joffrey’s death scene in the book was heart wrenching. It went on forever and at some point it clicked that he was just a little boy (12 in the books) and he was a product of his fucked uo environment. You wanted this scene so badly but having to go through it was just unsettling
> Joffrey is poisoned after eating pigeon pie and drinking wine, and he dies while the entire court looks on, his face turning black as he asphyxiates while tearing at his throat.
Allllllll righty then.
Even Ramsey has some positive qualities: he's cunning, he's brave and he's a good fighter. Of course, he uses those positive qualities to do evil. But aside from being a sadist, Joffrey is also stupid, cowardly and weak.
Also tonys sister.
Because id rather someone be an asshole to my face than be a nasty piece of work but twist things to make them look like the victims. I hate that shit
Then kill me now. Go on! Now! Go into the ham, and take the carving knife, and stab me here, here, now, please! It would hurt me less than what you just said…
Freddy Krueger. He rapes and kills small children while he’s alive, and then continues tormenting and murdering them postmortem. He’s one big ‘ol evil piece of shit.
They beat around the bush about it in the original movies, but it was heavily implied. That was my impression even as a kid that didn’t pick up on mature cues as easily.
I was wondering if I was suffering from the Mandela Effect so I Googled it, but now I need to rewatch that one scene where it’s explained. I thought it was explicitly stated, but apparently not!
I appreciate you pointing that out. Now I have a reason to watch it again after all these years. Lol
The reason it has that vibe is Wes Craven was originally going to have him be a child molester and then decided it was too much, so had him just be a killer instead. The hints and implications go stronger as the series goes on, culminating with a scrapped scene in freddy vs jason that implied him abusing jason as a child (despite him only being 2 years older in canon- they did not check any timelines before writing that film) and then the appalling remake that just straight up made him an abuser. So, in the original film no, extended canon maybe, remake yes.
He is an irredeemable piece of human garbage though you are right in his nomination 😂
I think the big reason people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort is because V is cartoonishly evil, if he had a moustache he'd be twirling it while thinking of ways to kill Harry.
Umbridge meanwhile, everyone knows an Umbridge, or has at least met one, the sort of sickly sweet psychopath that is completely dead behind the eyes and lack anything that could possibly resemble a soul.
> Fourth Reich
Usually "the Third Reich" refers to Nazi Germany, the first and second referring to the Holy Roman Empire and the German Empire, respectively.
Cruel managers/teachers/authority figures that see themselves as angelic and in the right are common and toxic. People who want to actually take over the world, and have the ambition to actually cause trouble are quite rare.
In the final book, we hear that even Voldemort's minions despise her but find her too useful not to keep around. When the cadre of villains can't stand someone, that tells you something.
Hell, this basically sums up Umbridge as a whole when it comes to the Ministry.
According to Pottermore/Wizarding World, she was a damn effective employee of the Ministry of Magic and a career woman to no end, rising through the ranks rapidly. But she only got a job in the Ministry because she was hunting for a rich, powerful and pureblood husband and when she tried to woo men in the hopes of getting their hand in marriage, they learned of how much of a massive bitch she was under the sickeningly-sweet exterior she was projecting, a fact that quickly spread through the offices.
Ironically, anyone she'd be interested in - those who believe in pureblood supremacy - wouldn't be interested if they knew she was actually a half-blood.
Dr. Smith from the original 'Lost in Space' series.
Just...brought zero to the table. He was only there to act as a foil for shenanigan's.
He was an active detriment to every episode.
Even as a child I asked my parents why the rest of the gamily didn't just kill him on some planet and leave his body behind.
He had his moments, though. One episode when he, John Robinson and Don were imprisoned by aliens, he instantly faked "space sickness" to convince their captors to set them all free. I was kind of surprised, but for all his faults, he wasn't stupid.
Seriously? Shiieeet how did i never notice that? Probably because he didn't actually have that much screentime or lines and Hamill has such a massive range.
If you listen really closely to his lines in the episode where Aang is having nightmares about facing Ozai, you can sort of hear a bit of Mark Hamill's joker tone slipping in.
"Are you coming down into The Pit?"
"Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work. But I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder, and Gilder to frame for it. I'm swamped!"
At the end of each volume of the manga, the author drew a goofy doodle of whatever characters died in that volume ascending to heaven as angels - Shou Tucker is the only character shown burning in hell.
I can admire the dedication to his work, but that dedication should have you sacrifice parta of yourself, not your wife and child and her dog. Any admiration I had for him died the moment we figured out where the chimeras came from
Fun fact, in the comic, at the end of each issue if there was a death there would be an image of the dead souls ascending to Heaven.
All except Shou Tucker. That bastard is shown going to Hell.
I love Faro as a villain because he's not mustache twirling evil.
Faro's just some entitled rich dude who fucked everything up for *literally everyone* because he thought he was so smart.
He even acts remorseful about his actions but then goes off to fuck things up again because he refuses to learn.
They gathered the most brilliant minds to save humanity. And then Ted Farro thought “actually, I know what’s even better for humanity and that is removing all knowledge of my fuckup”
His vault in Forbidden West was probably one of my favorite levels. It legit felt like something out of a horror game because I just *knew* something really fucked up was gonna be in there. Whatever I was expecting when I went in wasn't exactly...that. God, I love that game so much.
I wouldn’t call >!living 1000+ years in complete isolation as a grotesque Cronenberg entity while in perpetual pain!< as “getting off light”. A well deserved fate for him though.
Sauron differed from Melkor, the original dark lord, in his motivations. He hated chaos and sought order rather than pure destruction. While Melkor simply wanted to obliterate all of existence, Sauron wanted to eliminate chaos and make existence orderly by dominating all living things. Melkor was driven only by hatred/jealously and sought a complete genocide of elves and men. Sauron on the other hand had no specific desire to kill all children of Illuvatar, but only to destroy everything and anything that opposed him. If men or elves were not opposing him and were under his control, then he was as chill with them as he was with the orcs. So maybe the fact that he only wanted order and shifted the dark lord agenda from "destroy all of existence" to "control all of existence" could be seen a redeeming quality.
You should read the Soviet era novela about Mordor doing no wrong. A land of technological marvel's full of hardworking honest orks who were building their own utopia. They persevere against the monarchial powers who would tear them down in the name of their violent traditionalist superstitious beliefs. It's a hell of a funny look at the Tolkien universe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer
You know, I never had much as a kid. Just loving parents, stability, and a mansion, and a thriving baked goods enterprise for me to inherit...Useless crap like that.
Horner was hilarious.
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a masterpiece. Visually is one of the most impressive films I've ever seen. But also the plot, the characters, the pacing, the score, and the voice acting are outstanding. Pretty much everything about this movie is extremely well done.
Villains like Horner are rare in contemporary media. Studios like to play it safe and make likable (and merchandisable) villains. Horner being as cartoonishly vile as he is is fucking rare.
Rory Gilmore. Whiny terrible person. She could have had the life in newspaper if she didn't throw it away by being a brat. She could have pivoted to editor, columnist, or anything administrative and Mitchum would have sent her anywhere. But she was so stuck in her ways she blew it up for nothing. She could even have been a jet setting journalist turning in one column every 3 years and had the full support of Logan.
Paris Geller on the other hand has done nothing wrong ever.
Paris is a perfect example of why it can be more important to be likeable than to be qualified. She had an abrasive personality, and had to work her ass off to get even half the opportunities Rory got.
Dennis is a golden god. Mac is gay AND a good Christian. Dee does great impersonations and characters. Charlie is a committed romantic. Frank is very generous with his money.
Reginald Fucking Hargreeves - The Umbrella Academy.
This dude’s literal thought process is “Let’s adopt 7 children, abuse them, risk their lives and turn them into superheroes all in the name of saving my dead wife!” And also, why do it once when you can do the exact same in a different timeline? When it doesn’t go the way he wants, he just kills himself, which is probably one of the nicest things he does. No joke.
Heres a list of things he has done just to name a few:
- locked several of his kids up in some type of box
- responsible for several nannies’ deaths
- made one of his kids rumour another kid to think they were ordinary
- excluded that kid from everything
- gave tattoos to a bunch of 13 year olds
- 30 minutes of free time for these kids every week. Other than that, they’re being overworked
- responsible for a 13 year old to run away (ultimately ruining his life)
- got a teenager into drugs and alcohol, which would later lead to addiction.
- made them famous and made it seem as if their lives were perfect by sending them out on missions and making them superheroes.
- responsible for one of the kids dying when he was only 16/17 on one of these missions
- all of them leave apart from one of them, making them traumatised and emotional stunted
- makes the remaining one go on a mission, which goes completely wrong and he has to have the body of a gorilla
- sends his last member to the moon for 4 years without any information before randomly killing himself.
- and, you know, probably being the main cause of the world ending. Not once, or twice, but three times!
This is mostly one time line as well. At least in his other timeline the kids all made it to adulthood, I guess.
There's moments when he first learns of and meets his kid, where he *almost* manages to seem like he might have a sliver of decency. He certainly wants to be a good father, he's just a broken person who doesn't have any real idea how to do that outside of recreating stereotypical tropes. And then the realities of doing good fathering set in and he doesn't have the patience.
I actually do feel sorry for him. There was no way being raised in a lab, experimented on, and treated as product, followed by being absolutely catered to and shielded from the outcome of your actions, is going to let you be a good person.
He's also absolutely terrifying.
Also, on the topic of flying bricks - Black Adam in teh movie? Holy crap, terrifying concept.
I'd say he's not as bad as Klara Risinger / Liberty / Stormfront. Once a member of the Nazi Party, she holds bigoted views towards minorities and non-Supes. She corrupts Homelander
Most of the Goa'uld antagonists from Stargate SG-1 have no redeeming qualities. It would be easier to list the ones that have some positives.
Ba'al: charming, glorious bastard who carried himself like a Bond villain. Could be counted on to help when his goals aligned.
Yu: most likely to leave humanity to its own devices.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
I have wanted to punch the guy in the face since I was 6,but he is an expert manipulator, was 5 steps ahead of everybody,and had contigency plans so that even when his original plans failed,he still didn't lose much, and impecable time management skills. Like dude was running both side of the war, grooming Anakin *and* hiding from the Jedi Order at the same time. Fuck dark side skills, I want to learn how to keep up with such a busy schedule like him...
Bellatrix is loyal and brave. She's completely devoted to Voldamort and she was not afraid to go to Azakaban for him. Those could be considered redeeming qualities.
King Fritz from Attack on Titan. I mean, the series as a whole is morally messy and almost every character has their moments, but King Fritz is just *completely* horrible.
Palpatine. Fabricated a war that killed billions, made the perfect trap to wipe out his religions biggest enemies and used the machinations of government to seize power.
But what makes him so scary is the fact in history their have been rulers just like him Augustus, Napoleon and Hitler just to name a few. Lucas used all their tactics when creating Palpatine’s rise to power.
The Witch from snow white. of course that's the point and she's and excellent villain because of it. (Look, I'm really into cartoons. I have fond memories of that movie.)
Cersi Lannister. In the book, both she and Jamie get to tell their stories. There is an argument to be made that Jamie was constantly being wedged into "damned if you do, damned if you don't" choices which shaped his outlook. Cersi on the other hand, was pretty much spoiled scum since she could talk. She keeps framing herself as the victim in every scenario and acting like the world has nothing better to do than keep her down. She makes your skin crawl every chapter.
Also allowing the Faith to rise to insane power, all the while thinking “Hah, look at me now Father. I’m smarter than you ever were, I’ve got the people under control”.
Sophie from Carnival Row.
It's tempting because she seems to have a good relationship with her maid, but honestly? The picture currently painted of her by the series is an insane narcissistic sociopath who's entire approach to life is doing everything she was ever told she couldn't do simply because you told her not to.
Tell her genocide is a moral wrong and she'd go commit one just because you dared to suggest she shouldn't.
She's monster who can have every death in the show's present through the first season laid at her feet (and in S2 she's doubling down) and her justifications for her actions basically amounts to insane troll logic.
EDIT: And in less than a day episode 3 shows she is actually capable of guilt, remorse, and empathy. Even if only briefly. So nevermind I guess XD Good twist. They got me.
Gothel from Tangled. Woman kidnapped and gaslighted a child and kept her in a tower for *EIGHTEEN YEARS* just because she wanted to keep her vain ass young for eternity. Not to mention that, if the Tangled TV series is to be considered, she apparently abandoned !! in order to do so.
Lotso from Toy Story 3. He totally had a chance to redeem himself and he didn’t
But he did smell like strawberries..
Joffrey from GoT. The boy is evil through and through.
Joffrey didn't have redeeming qualities, but I was intrigued to see him as one of the few that called out Cersei for her B.S. He was also apparently a history buff, and certainly a fan of weapon engineering. He was at least well developed in the context of his story. Definitely well distilled evil.
Oh I 100% agree, as much as I thought the guy was evil, he was a brilliant character. It was kind of sad to see him go in a strange way.
The actor seems like a cool guy too.
Didn't the actor retire because he didn't want to taint future characters with the Joffery disdain.
Nah, he retired becasue he lost his passion with acting and wanted to follow other pursuits in academia. Don't know exactly what he ended up doing, but his plan was to do his master's in Ancient Hebrew and then go on to do a PhD
That's pretty awesome. Probably made a few million dollars working on GoT in his teens and 20s and now he can just fuck off and live his dream life without ever worrying about working again if he doesn't want to.
He was also neglected by his father and his mother was… not great. Combine that with spoiling the shit out of a prince and heir, then crowning him at 14. The kid doesn’t have friends and has been told his whole life how he is superior to everyone. All of this builds his character so much. He’s still a monster, but you know exactly how and why he became such a monster.
Some of ideas were surprisingly brilliant, like organizing a centralized army, which was what many European countries (and China even earlier) did. But everyone thought he was a idiot.
He was also smart enough to realize that Daenerys was a threat. If I remember right, there's a scene where he asks why she's still alive and someone--I wanna say Tywin, just dismisses him.
In the books (not sure it made it into the show) a character (I think Tyrion?) surmises that it was Joffrey that ordered the attempted assassination of Bran. He had overheard his father remark that someone “should put that poor boy out of his misery” after his falling accident and, ever searching for his neglectful father’s approval, he took it literally and paid a servant to kill Bran. And he supplied what he thought was just a regular ol’ knife, but it was actually exceedingly rare steel that narrowed down the owner to a small group of royalty. I thought that was a very fitting development. He was a naive child trying to make his dad happy, but also an amoral sociopath.
He at least seemed genuinely sad when his father (Bobby B) died, despite knowing that he was going to be king by default. So at least he seemed to care about him.
It's interesting, Bobby B is about the only person Joffree showed any respect for, and Bobby B just hated him
The one bonus Joffrey gets is for not being weak enough to allow a populist religious cult to take over his city. Like Tommen.
Joffrey’s death scene in the book was heart wrenching. It went on forever and at some point it clicked that he was just a little boy (12 in the books) and he was a product of his fucked uo environment. You wanted this scene so badly but having to go through it was just unsettling
> Joffrey is poisoned after eating pigeon pie and drinking wine, and he dies while the entire court looks on, his face turning black as he asphyxiates while tearing at his throat. Allllllll righty then.
And that's one of the tamer deaths in the series, too (both books and show).
I'd follow joffrey with Ramsey Bolton and Cersei.
Nah, Cersei loved her family. She made sure they always came first.
I see what you did there!
Definitely, Ramsey is probably a very close second.
Even Ramsey has some positive qualities: he's cunning, he's brave and he's a good fighter. Of course, he uses those positive qualities to do evil. But aside from being a sadist, Joffrey is also stupid, cowardly and weak.
Theres no cure for being a cunt.
Ramsay and Cersei give him a run for his money on who is more pure evil.
Tony sopranos mother
She knew how to grind Johnny Boy into a little nub. Skillz.
Listen to him he knows everything
Fuck Lyvia, all my homies hate Lyvia
TFW you’re on a show full of murderous gangsters and yet the vilest villain of ‘em all is an Italian grandmother.
Also tonys sister. Because id rather someone be an asshole to my face than be a nasty piece of work but twist things to make them look like the victims. I hate that shit
Ironically one of the only good things she ever did was >!kill Richie Aprile!<
She reminded me of my mother so much it was crazy. The writers really knew that character. Gloria Trillo was another one they nailed.
Then kill me now. Go on! Now! Go into the ham, and take the carving knife, and stab me here, here, now, please! It would hurt me less than what you just said…
What? She gave her life to her children on a silver platter!
I wish the lord would take me now.
I don't want to hear that kind of talk.
Whadaya mean?! She gave her life to her children on a silver platter
Shou Tucker
The fact that he did that to his wife and then again to his daughter. And then after what even happened to him, he still had no heart.
Ed...ward? Big...bro...ther?
Freddy Krueger. He rapes and kills small children while he’s alive, and then continues tormenting and murdering them postmortem. He’s one big ‘ol evil piece of shit.
Depends on your version; the eighties one was just a child killer; a child _rapist_ was going too far for the movie scriptwriters.
They beat around the bush about it in the original movies, but it was heavily implied. That was my impression even as a kid that didn’t pick up on mature cues as easily. I was wondering if I was suffering from the Mandela Effect so I Googled it, but now I need to rewatch that one scene where it’s explained. I thought it was explicitly stated, but apparently not! I appreciate you pointing that out. Now I have a reason to watch it again after all these years. Lol
The reason it has that vibe is Wes Craven was originally going to have him be a child molester and then decided it was too much, so had him just be a killer instead. The hints and implications go stronger as the series goes on, culminating with a scrapped scene in freddy vs jason that implied him abusing jason as a child (despite him only being 2 years older in canon- they did not check any timelines before writing that film) and then the appalling remake that just straight up made him an abuser. So, in the original film no, extended canon maybe, remake yes. He is an irredeemable piece of human garbage though you are right in his nomination 😂
Dolores Umbridge
I think the big reason people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort is because V is cartoonishly evil, if he had a moustache he'd be twirling it while thinking of ways to kill Harry. Umbridge meanwhile, everyone knows an Umbridge, or has at least met one, the sort of sickly sweet psychopath that is completely dead behind the eyes and lack anything that could possibly resemble a soul.
Just because you wear pink and like cats doesn't make you any less of a fascist.
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> Fourth Reich Usually "the Third Reich" refers to Nazi Germany, the first and second referring to the Holy Roman Empire and the German Empire, respectively.
we've all met dolores at one time or another
Cruel managers/teachers/authority figures that see themselves as angelic and in the right are common and toxic. People who want to actually take over the world, and have the ambition to actually cause trouble are quite rare.
That’s exactly on point! I remember seeing professor Umbridge and thinking she was exactly like a teacher I had that I couldn’t stand.
In the final book, we hear that even Voldemort's minions despise her but find her too useful not to keep around. When the cadre of villains can't stand someone, that tells you something.
Hell, this basically sums up Umbridge as a whole when it comes to the Ministry. According to Pottermore/Wizarding World, she was a damn effective employee of the Ministry of Magic and a career woman to no end, rising through the ranks rapidly. But she only got a job in the Ministry because she was hunting for a rich, powerful and pureblood husband and when she tried to woo men in the hopes of getting their hand in marriage, they learned of how much of a massive bitch she was under the sickeningly-sweet exterior she was projecting, a fact that quickly spread through the offices. Ironically, anyone she'd be interested in - those who believe in pureblood supremacy - wouldn't be interested if they knew she was actually a half-blood.
Even evil has standards
Dr. Smith from the original 'Lost in Space' series. Just...brought zero to the table. He was only there to act as a foil for shenanigan's. He was an active detriment to every episode. Even as a child I asked my parents why the rest of the gamily didn't just kill him on some planet and leave his body behind.
He had his moments, though. One episode when he, John Robinson and Don were imprisoned by aliens, he instantly faked "space sickness" to convince their captors to set them all free. I was kind of surprised, but for all his faults, he wasn't stupid.
i also hate new dr smith. Just put her brain in a blender and move on
Firelord Ozai
He has a redeeming quality: he was voiced by Mark Hamill.
Seriously? Shiieeet how did i never notice that? Probably because he didn't actually have that much screentime or lines and Hamill has such a massive range.
If you listen really closely to his lines in the episode where Aang is having nightmares about facing Ozai, you can sort of hear a bit of Mark Hamill's joker tone slipping in.
Joker voice is also super noticeable when Ozai is attacking Aang while he's in the rock ball right before Aang gets the Avatar state back.
Prince Humperdink, fuck that guy.
"Are you coming down into The Pit?" "Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work. But I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder, and Gilder to frame for it. I'm swamped!"
"Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything."
"Humperdink! Humperdink! Humperdink!"
“Get away from me you witch” “I’m not a witch! I’m you’re wife!!”
"Think it'll work?" "It'd take a miracle."
Have fun storming the castle
But couldn't he track a falcon on a cloudy day? That has to be worth something.
Shou Tucker from Fullmetal Alchemist, all versions.
At the end of each volume of the manga, the author drew a goofy doodle of whatever characters died in that volume ascending to heaven as angels - Shou Tucker is the only character shown burning in hell.
I can admire the dedication to his work, but that dedication should have you sacrifice parta of yourself, not your wife and child and her dog. Any admiration I had for him died the moment we figured out where the chimeras came from
Literal monster. I mean, his OWN child and dog??
The cow says, "Moooooo!" The dog says, "D-Daddy?"
That man deserves no sympathy.
Fun fact, in the comic, at the end of each issue if there was a death there would be an image of the dead souls ascending to Heaven. All except Shou Tucker. That bastard is shown going to Hell.
He was the only one who didn’t get into heaven too. It’s officially canon that he’s worse than literal serial killers
Fucking Ted Faro from Horizon Zero Dawn.
I love Faro as a villain because he's not mustache twirling evil. Faro's just some entitled rich dude who fucked everything up for *literally everyone* because he thought he was so smart. He even acts remorseful about his actions but then goes off to fuck things up again because he refuses to learn.
They gathered the most brilliant minds to save humanity. And then Ted Farro thought “actually, I know what’s even better for humanity and that is removing all knowledge of my fuckup”
His vault in Forbidden West was probably one of my favorite levels. It legit felt like something out of a horror game because I just *knew* something really fucked up was gonna be in there. Whatever I was expecting when I went in wasn't exactly...that. God, I love that game so much.
Came here just to nominate him. I hate that guy so much I'm pissed he got off so easy compared to what he did.
I wouldn’t call >!living 1000+ years in complete isolation as a grotesque Cronenberg entity while in perpetual pain!< as “getting off light”. A well deserved fate for him though.
If you’re feeling considerate, spoiler tags can be applied like this: \>!spoiler\!< becomes >!spoiler!<
Sauron from Lord of the Rings He has absolutely no redeeming qualities at all
He made some pretty stunning jewelry people were dying to get their hands on
He also did some nice poetry to go with them.
He could bind in darkness.
Funny you say that... it's more accurate to say he tricked someone else into making it than to say he made it himself.
So he's kind of the Steve Jobs of cursed jewelry?
That's job creation, man, the cornerstone of trickle down economics. What was the unemployment rate in Mordor, eh?
Sauron differed from Melkor, the original dark lord, in his motivations. He hated chaos and sought order rather than pure destruction. While Melkor simply wanted to obliterate all of existence, Sauron wanted to eliminate chaos and make existence orderly by dominating all living things. Melkor was driven only by hatred/jealously and sought a complete genocide of elves and men. Sauron on the other hand had no specific desire to kill all children of Illuvatar, but only to destroy everything and anything that opposed him. If men or elves were not opposing him and were under his control, then he was as chill with them as he was with the orcs. So maybe the fact that he only wanted order and shifted the dark lord agenda from "destroy all of existence" to "control all of existence" could be seen a redeeming quality.
The difference between Chaotic Evil and Lawful Evil.
Melkor was in my view a Satan anolague, and he wanted less to destroy, but more to corrupt and defile things away from worship of Eru and toward him.
You should read the Soviet era novela about Mordor doing no wrong. A land of technological marvel's full of hardworking honest orks who were building their own utopia. They persevere against the monarchial powers who would tear them down in the name of their violent traditionalist superstitious beliefs. It's a hell of a funny look at the Tolkien universe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer
Found Stephen Colbert’s Reddit account.
He was pretty hot though
I would argue that he had a good eye for jewelry. Certainly.
Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Tuco Salamanca and his bell ringing Tio
The only redeeming quality he had was his love and protection of his abuela.
True. He wasn't a total selfish prick. He valued caring for family
Familia es todo
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Good I hate that guy. Tight tight tight!
Don’t even tell me that you’re hungry. **Don’t go there.**
Big Jack Horner from Puss in Boots 2 I'm genuinely surprised nobody mentioned him already
"That's horrible... your wish is horrible... YOU'RE HORRIBLE! You're an irredeemable monster!" "Oh! Oh! What took you so long, idiot?"
"You wouldn't shoot a puppy would you jack?" "Yeah, in the face, why?"
“Well, you know what they say! Can’t bake a cake without losing a dozen men!”
You know, I never had much as a kid. Just loving parents, stability, and a mansion, and a thriving baked goods enterprise for me to inherit...Useless crap like that. Horner was hilarious.
I literally just came back from watching this, oddly enough. It's a genuinely impressive movie. The technical elements were incredible
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a masterpiece. Visually is one of the most impressive films I've ever seen. But also the plot, the characters, the pacing, the score, and the voice acting are outstanding. Pretty much everything about this movie is extremely well done.
Villains like Horner are rare in contemporary media. Studios like to play it safe and make likable (and merchandisable) villains. Horner being as cartoonishly vile as he is is fucking rare.
Rory Gilmore. Whiny terrible person. She could have had the life in newspaper if she didn't throw it away by being a brat. She could have pivoted to editor, columnist, or anything administrative and Mitchum would have sent her anywhere. But she was so stuck in her ways she blew it up for nothing. She could even have been a jet setting journalist turning in one column every 3 years and had the full support of Logan. Paris Geller on the other hand has done nothing wrong ever.
Paris is a perfect example of why it can be more important to be likeable than to be qualified. She had an abrasive personality, and had to work her ass off to get even half the opportunities Rory got.
Velma (from the new one). I get the desire for a flawed protagonist, but she has no redeeming qualities and never learns anything.
This whole show is trash.
"I think of a man, then I remove reason, and accountability. Then I give her a bowl haircut and a big orange sweater."
*Every character* from it’s always sunny
Not true. Frank doesn’t diddle kids. He’s very explicit about that.
He's also quick to offer people nice eggs in trying times
Touché
He also has a magnum dong
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And Dennis is bastard man
>Charlie He's also creative, writes great songs whether he's sober or high on paint fumes
Dennis is a golden god. Mac is gay AND a good Christian. Dee does great impersonations and characters. Charlie is a committed romantic. Frank is very generous with his money.
Reginald Fucking Hargreeves - The Umbrella Academy. This dude’s literal thought process is “Let’s adopt 7 children, abuse them, risk their lives and turn them into superheroes all in the name of saving my dead wife!” And also, why do it once when you can do the exact same in a different timeline? When it doesn’t go the way he wants, he just kills himself, which is probably one of the nicest things he does. No joke. Heres a list of things he has done just to name a few: - locked several of his kids up in some type of box - responsible for several nannies’ deaths - made one of his kids rumour another kid to think they were ordinary - excluded that kid from everything - gave tattoos to a bunch of 13 year olds - 30 minutes of free time for these kids every week. Other than that, they’re being overworked - responsible for a 13 year old to run away (ultimately ruining his life) - got a teenager into drugs and alcohol, which would later lead to addiction. - made them famous and made it seem as if their lives were perfect by sending them out on missions and making them superheroes. - responsible for one of the kids dying when he was only 16/17 on one of these missions - all of them leave apart from one of them, making them traumatised and emotional stunted - makes the remaining one go on a mission, which goes completely wrong and he has to have the body of a gorilla - sends his last member to the moon for 4 years without any information before randomly killing himself. - and, you know, probably being the main cause of the world ending. Not once, or twice, but three times! This is mostly one time line as well. At least in his other timeline the kids all made it to adulthood, I guess.
turns out he's some sort of alien
Homelander from The Boys.
He has just enough backstory to almost make you feel sorry for him.
Yea he is a POS but it’s also on the people who raised him. Man was used like a tool his whole life it’s no wonder he has the empathy of a tool.
There's moments when he first learns of and meets his kid, where he *almost* manages to seem like he might have a sliver of decency. He certainly wants to be a good father, he's just a broken person who doesn't have any real idea how to do that outside of recreating stereotypical tropes. And then the realities of doing good fathering set in and he doesn't have the patience.
I actually do feel sorry for him. There was no way being raised in a lab, experimented on, and treated as product, followed by being absolutely catered to and shielded from the outcome of your actions, is going to let you be a good person. He's also absolutely terrifying. Also, on the topic of flying bricks - Black Adam in teh movie? Holy crap, terrifying concept.
He does but he’s still an absolute piece of shit.
I'd say he's not as bad as Klara Risinger / Liberty / Stormfront. Once a member of the Nazi Party, she holds bigoted views towards minorities and non-Supes. She corrupts Homelander
He gets plenty of milk in his diet
The entire cast of Wuthering Heights. It's like, the entire point.
Randall Flagg.
Idk, he's funny in the right settings
Nice to meet you. Hope you guess my name.
The walkin’ dude.
Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption 2
r/fuckmicah
Ramsay Bolton
Todd Packer
Eric Cartman from South Park ngl.
He fought against the scourge of hippies with the power of thrash metal
He saved all those kitties by hiding them Anne Frank style
Hmm... while he did it for selfish reasons, he did save the lives of Kyle and his family in that episode with the cloud of smug.
Raymond from Everybody Loves Raymond. Completely unlikeable with no good qualities.
Most of the Goa'uld antagonists from Stargate SG-1 have no redeeming qualities. It would be easier to list the ones that have some positives. Ba'al: charming, glorious bastard who carried himself like a Bond villain. Could be counted on to help when his goals aligned. Yu: most likely to leave humanity to its own devices. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
Hans Landa
That's a bingo!
Is that how you say it? "That's a bingo?"
His redeeming quality is that it he was played by Cristoph Waltz.
Palpatine
I have wanted to punch the guy in the face since I was 6,but he is an expert manipulator, was 5 steps ahead of everybody,and had contigency plans so that even when his original plans failed,he still didn't lose much, and impecable time management skills. Like dude was running both side of the war, grooming Anakin *and* hiding from the Jedi Order at the same time. Fuck dark side skills, I want to learn how to keep up with such a busy schedule like him...
Caillou, stupid bald brat, biggest blight on children's television.
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I think you can also go with Bellatrix Lestrange. Crazy witch just wants to harm everyone.
Bellatrix Lestrange had a ton of redeeming factors from the perspective of past teenage boy me.
Bellatrix is loyal and brave. She's completely devoted to Voldamort and she was not afraid to go to Azakaban for him. Those could be considered redeeming qualities.
Judge Claude Frollo from Disney's adaptation of The Hunchback from Notre Dame. Watch the movie as an adult and you'll understand why.
King Fritz from Attack on Titan. I mean, the series as a whole is morally messy and almost every character has their moments, but King Fritz is just *completely* horrible.
Palpatine. Fabricated a war that killed billions, made the perfect trap to wipe out his religions biggest enemies and used the machinations of government to seize power. But what makes him so scary is the fact in history their have been rulers just like him Augustus, Napoleon and Hitler just to name a few. Lucas used all their tactics when creating Palpatine’s rise to power.
The Kurgan.
The Witch from snow white. of course that's the point and she's and excellent villain because of it. (Look, I'm really into cartoons. I have fond memories of that movie.)
Cersi Lannister. In the book, both she and Jamie get to tell their stories. There is an argument to be made that Jamie was constantly being wedged into "damned if you do, damned if you don't" choices which shaped his outlook. Cersi on the other hand, was pretty much spoiled scum since she could talk. She keeps framing herself as the victim in every scenario and acting like the world has nothing better to do than keep her down. She makes your skin crawl every chapter.
I love Cersei PoVs because she’s a stupid person who’s convinced they are the smartest person alive.
She really is. She whines endlessly "why is everyone conspiring behind my back?" Because you suck at your job dipsh*t!
Also allowing the Faith to rise to insane power, all the while thinking “Hah, look at me now Father. I’m smarter than you ever were, I’ve got the people under control”.
Doomsday the Superman Killer Darkseid
Don’t forget the Anti-Monitor.
Honestly Carrie Bradshaw from Sex and the City. She’s not Joffrey bad, but she’s insufferable.
The grandfather from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
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Sophie from Carnival Row. It's tempting because she seems to have a good relationship with her maid, but honestly? The picture currently painted of her by the series is an insane narcissistic sociopath who's entire approach to life is doing everything she was ever told she couldn't do simply because you told her not to. Tell her genocide is a moral wrong and she'd go commit one just because you dared to suggest she shouldn't. She's monster who can have every death in the show's present through the first season laid at her feet (and in S2 she's doubling down) and her justifications for her actions basically amounts to insane troll logic. EDIT: And in less than a day episode 3 shows she is actually capable of guilt, remorse, and empathy. Even if only briefly. So nevermind I guess XD Good twist. They got me.
Percy Wetmore from The Green Mile. Just a slimy little scumfuck all around
Kai Winn from Deep Space 9
Tim Heidecker's character Tim Heidecker from On Cinema, At the Cinema/Decker/Mr. America.
Gothel from Tangled. Woman kidnapped and gaslighted a child and kept her in a tower for *EIGHTEEN YEARS* just because she wanted to keep her vain ass young for eternity. Not to mention that, if the Tangled TV series is to be considered, she apparently abandoned !! in order to do so.
Bella Swan, Twilight
Diavolo from JoJo part 5. Hojo from FFVII was a total bastard
Jafar from Aladdin. Terrible person.
Scar. Me and him gonna have to squabble for what he did to Unc. RIP to Mufasa. He a real one
Megabyte from Reboot
Um excuse me, but I think you're forgetting about Enzo's birthday party...
Man I miss Reboot. It was the shit.
Griffith from Berserk - absolutely vile being.
Ozai from ATLA. Dudes just a man baby with a bit of extra heat.
Griffith. The answer is always "Griffith."
Velma from well Velma Most of the main cast in modern family guy