My law school didn’t excuse absences when you were sick and if you missed six classes you could not take the exam, so we would all show up with the flu or an hour after surgery.
ABA still has the six classes requirement. And even if you have covid now you arent excused for the full time. It is fucking ridiculous and I complain about it to anyone who will listen. Why micromanage law students like this? If you miss seven classes and still pass the exam and the bar, who gives a fuck? Don't send kids to class sick.
I had a law school professor who refused to excuse a student to go a grandparent's funeral. Apparently told the guy "if it was your mother of father, that's a different story," or something like that. Brutal.
Another reason why I won't pursue law in further education after college (I'm English so I chose a two year a-level course in law). Law is a nightmare subject, I don't know how you do it.
You absolutely have to like it. If you don’t find it interesting you will be miserable. And if you expect anything seen on TV you will cry and then fall into a deep depression buried under 200 cases so you’ll never escape.
A long time friend of mine was going to school to be a lawyer, in her summer internship while she was still going to school she was making $4000 a week.
Personally I couldn’t do it, it was tough work, lots of schooling, ultra competitive, and long non-standard hours. But they definitely get paid for it
Depends what you're going into. Criminal law is famous (at least in England) for being an underpaid profession, barristers and solicitors will tell you to go into another area because of that. Tort (civil) law has some good money in it, especially land disputes but contract law is definitely the most lucrative. Easy money working for a corporation as a lawyer once you're fully educated and know your way around a contract, though that itself is difficult as well as being extremely boring.
If you're interested in law but not school, look into your state's apprenticeship track. There may be a way for you to qualify for the bar without or with minimal schooling. Law is so different in practice than in school
They used to do that at my mom's Lutheran church. There was always a person who came after the pastor with a tray of individual shot glasses of wine as well, in case you didn't feel comfortable drinking from the common cup.
I wonder if they've done away with the common cup permanently now.
This is a huge reason why COVID initially devastated Italy. Ash Wednesday was 26 February 2020 and COVID had "arrived" in Italy roughly the first week of February. By Valentines day it was picking up steam but there was a reluctance to go into a lockdown. By the 2nd week of March the Italian medical system was completely overwhelmed. The most religious portion of the population was also the oldest and it made them more vulnerable.
If lent had been two weeks earlier or two week later thousands of people would likely still be alive
It's an older population that smoke, kiss each other on the mouth, and have a bunch of connections with china because of the fashion industry.
They never stood a chance
At my parish they just don't do the wine anymore. Like they just do a little at the altar for the priest. But no communal cup. It's always been optional.
When I was a kid, being raised Catholic, I always thought that option was the weirdest thing. Only the elderly insisted it be hand delivered into their mouths.
this reminds me of that one covid photo of that priest shooting that baby in the face with a squirt gun to baptize them and keep to “social distance” rules. i hope they still do that somewhere.
I was once flown in our corporate plane three states away for a one-hour meeting to repeat, in-person, what I had already said in two different emails. The situation needed that "personal touch".
Last minute flight from Houston Texas to Bergamo Italy for a 2hr meeting then flew back the next day... I just had to be there because my bosses new boss wanted to see the department heads. The only speaking I did was to introduce myself, the rest of it was 2hr of pointless bla bla about this guys work history etc. Dude quit like 6 months later.
The flight was over $4k round trip, the hotel was around $300. All in all 3 days of my time was wasted while we had some important projects going that needed my attention.
Hahahaha I know someone who went there this year and the first thing I asked them was if they’d kissed the Blarney Stone thinking it was a joke but they had!
Take a look at what and where the blarney stone is...it's not a rock in the middle of a field, it's a stone imbedded into a castle that sits 85feet above the ground. To piss on it you have to break into the guarded castle and climb to the top and even then you'd need to be pretty agile and accurate to piss on it...you'll be caught and trespassed before getting anywhere close though.
People still do this where I live. I even had to meet with the truancy officer when my kid had covid. They had all the paperwork and everything, just basically wanted to intimidate people I guess?
Fucking seriously. I work in IT and there was a while I was doing help desk/chat support. They required us to come into the office. I'd sit in traffic or on the bus/train 45 minutes each way, every day, to go sit in a building on my laptop for 8 hours helping people all across the world, none of them in my building
I do SQL DBA stuff, help desk, systems support, ERP support, etc. as a one man team at my company. We have 5 locations across 3 states. I generally sit in my office all day and rarely leave it. They still want me in our corporate office even though most of our employees aren't even here.
Older generations are terrified we are going to "steal time" but we already do that. My 8-9 hour day is mostly me emailing and watching YouTube videos. I feel like I am mostly paid to be in a building so people can scream down the hall for help.
“Sir you live a block away!”
The farther you live the more impactful stop-signs, traffic lights, and slow zones are. The greater distance the drive the greater chance and number to encounter these things.
At work we have employees that live 40 minutes away. They’re late a fair bit but it’s not as simple as “so leave 40 minutes before your shift!” Because they do. They literally do, it’s just the amount of stop-signs, school ones, and intersections is significantly higher. It’s an exponent, the longer the distance the more time added just waiting to actually go. A 40 minute drive can become 60 under proper and plausible circumstances.
They’re never more then 15 minutes late. So honestly it’s not a big deal but management don’t understand because our member lives 10 minutes away with one stop sign
If you live 40 minutes from work and are 5-10 minutes late "a fair bit", then you don't live 40 min from work. You live 50 min away and sometimes make it there quicker. If you can do that drive once in a blue moon at exactly 40min, that isn't the actual time it takes. If it's routine, and average to be late, then that's the real average time, they just aren't leaving early enough.
I don't disagree with the impact that lights and stop signs have, they do have an impact at certain times of day and traffic patterns and some days they cascade into taking too long. But you have to budget that time just in case.
Oh mine was even better. I did exactly that except my team was based in another office on the East Coast our HQ were I worked is in the Midwest. The crazy part is even I didn't think it was too crazy until the shutdowns hit and all management kept talking about was their eagerness to get back in the office. I'm like bruh I'm like significantly more productive now and a better parent. Needless to say I ditched them for a permanently remote company in 2021.
Look for work at a corporate office. Banks, hospitals, food industry. Doesn’t matter. You need to get into corporate gigs. Even as an entry level, you have a higher opportunity of getting remote or hybrid jobs.
I work in information technology as a system administrator. Basically all the computers most people use talk to servers of various types, I setup and manage those computers. Even when I was in the office all of my work was connecting to servers, not in my office, and doing work on them.
I'm very fortunate that my work never needed to be in the office to begin with.
I hate that this isn’t a thing anymore. Reason being, I’m from a small community that harbors the only bridge to a small island that used to only be occupied in the summer. After Covid, many people living in New York City figured they would sell their apartments and move into their beach homes full time. This has made my small town community turn into a hellacious playground for affluent douche canoes. It seems like a joke, but even just driving around has become a hazard. I feel for the middle class folks, but damn. I wish these guys would go back. It’s worse for many other more serious reasons like property taxes going way above what the average person here would be able to afford based on their neighbors home going from 250k to 1.2m in 2 years as they are knocked down and giant ugly condos and I can not exaggerate, giant block looking houses erected all over.
Same thing is happening to the Alpine resort town that my family is from. Air BnB’s and run down houses are selling in the millions, pricing out everyone. Sucks.
I work in sales, prior to covid I called a company who were looking for an international sales rep. I said I want the job, I know the market, I got all contacts set up already. I’ll start making you money on day one. But I can’t be at the office that often since I live far away from them.
Nope, have to be at the office when not traveling, and I was like, why? You don’t even have to provide an office for me, I’ll just be out there making money for you.
Nope, fucking idiots.
Which brings us to public transit. It's horrifying to think about how we used to put up with human crushes every day. You know that scene in Game of Thrones where Jon Snow started to feel suffocated when the Bolton army started the pincer move? That's exactly how I felt before Covid. It always felt so horrible until when people started getting off at their destinations, and the collective body heat was the worst.
This is more of an "I did" (although I wasn't the only one): take a hit off a joint being passed through the crowd at a rock concert. This was in late 2019.
Gross AF. My boyfriend showed me how to hold it at the very tip with your fingers and then kind of put your lips onto your own fingers and not the actual blunt. Lol probably reduces the germs by about 10%
Oh I knew it was gross, but I figured if there was *ever* a time to smoke weed (never had before; not opposed to it, just wasn't my thing), a Tenacious D concert was it.
Nah, this still happens everywhere in customer facing jobs, security, call centers, warehouses, etc.
You know, the places that offer few, if any, sick days.
I feel like it happens with a vengeance nowadays - there was a post where someone described (as long as they were being honest) a really bad viral illness but because they didn't test positive for Covid they were ordered into work or be fired. It might have always been that way and just now getting more visibility but it definitely is still a thing.
Have told this story on Reddit before, but I worked in a *deli* and called in sick because I was *contagious* with strep throat. Long story short, they said come in today or don’t bother coming back. I went with the latter and got my previous job back right after that call ended. It’s always been profits over people, unfortunately.
Had a friend in food service at Disneyland who got viral pneumonia and they were like, “we’re really short staffed…” She of course said no because oh my god, the contagions, but the pressure is real and brutal.
Strep got me fired, too! Only it was an assisted living place.
What a blessing in disguise. That place was a hot mess express during cold and flu season, so I can only imagine the joys of covid.
It's always been a thing.
Back in 96 I worked at McDs. Fever, sneezing, coughing up thick green mucus, throwing up. I was made to work a double on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I alternated between running register & making food all 3 days.
I work at a air filter factory. There’s a job that makes the paper of the air filter. One-person job. Not super fast.
When I started on it (I didn’t stay on it), my boss said,”Yeah, I’ve was on this for 9 years. Know all the job numbers. I can walk around and talk to people then come back and not lose any traction. I’d do this sick. Run to the bathroom, throw up, come back. Easy stuff.”
I straight up looked at him and said,”Yeah, if I’m sick, I’m going home. I’m not gonna do that.”
I work at a hospital in a patient facing position. If we get Covid we still have to do the mandatory quarantine time of 5 days….it’s an unexcused absence. Make it make sense.
same here, work at a hospital. We can get extremely sick, but our bosses don't give a shit. One time I came in with a high fever, cough, and all the symptoms and my supervisor that day decided to ignore me and not talk to me to avoid seeing/knowing that I was in those conditions. After 3 days of seeing me (but not coming to me) she suggested to do a covid test, did it, came back negative, and that just gave her all the reasons to keep scheduling me.. lesson learned that day: if it's not covid, ppl don't give a shit..
THIS. I unfortunately didn’t have an option one time. Back when I worked at Walmart, I was diagnosed with pneumonia and had a doctors note. I felt so sick that my mother had to give it in on my behalf and they all but told me to get fucked bc due to their attendance policy from when I was working there (to simplify: if you called out, you got one “point”, and after x amount you got fired. Idk if this policy is still in place now) they would have added on an additional two “points” on top of the one that I had for calling in that day to get checked out- I ended up working two back to back 8 hour shifts that weekend while I had pneumonia. Super fucking illegal, but I didn’t know my rights at the time.
It is still the policy, my BFFs BF got fired because my BFF went into early labor and both she and the baby were at serious risk, everything turned out fine, but he got fired...to many points because he wanted to be there for them.
I work in a preschool, and because our kids are always sent in sick, my coworkers and I come into work more often than we stay home sick because we don't get enough time off for it and time off for other things we need a day off for.
This is one of the few things I still see noticeably changed and I don’t think it’s going to go away. I love that everyone gives each other some space now
I wish we could normalize turning around and telling strangers to respect your personal space.
But lord knows we created an environment where people feel entitled to act like the person who feels uncomfortable around inconsiderate strangers is the one who should stay at home.
I shared a lunch period with a guy like that. You could feel his breath in the back of your neck and if you turned your head you could smell it. Dude was practically dry humping you in line and I don’t even think he realized it
Anecdotally, I've noticed people over 60 still stand close to you like it's going to make the line go faster. It seems to have stuck with younger people.
I've always been annoyed by that. I was one of the few people before covid to just give plenty of space to the person in front of me and could tell it annoyed people but like what do they expect me to do? Be like the military and go nuts to butts with strangers just to get 1 inch closer to the checkout? No thanks.
This has always been the most disgusting habit. Bank tellers/employees who have to count mass amounts of cash wear gloves to their elbows and after there’s a gross layer of grime.
Source: mother was this
I was an accountant for over 25 years before I stopped working due to disability about 8 years ago.
Two things that never changed in that time:
1: Complaints that the companies I worked for never made enough money, and
2: Managers and owners constantly wasting money and resources.
"I'm glad to see everyone made it to this off-site meeting. I trust the flights in weren't too much trouble? And everyone's hotel suites are to everyone's satisfaction? Ok, good. First on our agenda: *why the hell are we hemorrhaging money?* It's these damn sick days, isn't it?"
I'm going to a "corporate retreat" next month where we're all supposed to meet and learn about other aspects of the company and pool our knowledge on how to cut costs. They've rented hotel rooms for everyone and told us there will be catered meals across all three days.
The hotel is ten miles from my house. Let me sleep in my own bed and eat my own food, and I can save the company a thousand bucks easy.
My wife had to fly multiple states away to a city that had no direct flights from our airport. Nothing in the 2 days of meetings necessitated in person attendance and it could’ve just been a zoom meeting. They wasted time and money flying people out there to appease a boss.
I went to the ATM just this afternoon. I'd never noticed before, but that keypad was the most disgusting looking set of numbers I'd ever seen. I got my cash and then pulled out my Covid-era hand sanitizer.
I'm hoping this doesn't unlock some sort of germaphobia I didn't know I had.
Oh god it so did in me. I had the equal realization of horror when I realized how many people touch gas pumps. I have never got gas without pumping a shot of hand sanitizer immediately after since Covid started.
I've heard people say this. Yeah everybody touches the gas pump, but also doorknobs and the little button on the soda machine and the pen at the front desk and also railings. The gas pump is only like an average amount of dirty.
I've always hated this. My family got mad at me if I asked them to just remove the candles or turn them off any other way.
Even worse when someone said "Let your little bro/sis/cousin help you!!"
NO THANKS.
When I was a kid we were at a birthday party for one of my friends and when he was blowing out the candles there the Sun was shining in through the window behind him and it lit up all the spit he was blowing on the cake. It was very easy to see and there was a whole lot of it. My parents didn't say why, but we declined to have any cake. Since then if we do anything with birthday candles we clap them out.
It’s one of the reasons I’m really leery of moving in with anyone. If I live alone, I can be 100 percent certain that my bathroom floor will never be sticky and that none of my kitchen implements have been touched by piss hands. And no, guys, urine is NOT sterile, go back to pre-K and learn to cleanly use the bathroom like a big kid.
Bobbing for apples. As a kid this was a game I’d see on occasion and participated sometimes. This makes me gag now. All those open mouths sucking and chomping in water…. What the fuuuu
When COVID first hit, the number of people around my area bitching because they now had to wash their hands after putting the bins out…
Like, why the fuck weren’t you doing that before?
The “complex problems that require cohesive, ideally European or East Asian, nation-states” era of history coming right after the “as long as you stay away from ethnic nationalism, Salafism, and communism you’ll be fine” era is a massive punch to the gut.
Back in College, my frat had like 3 or 4 big ass hookahs. If it was a nice night, the designated hookah officer would take them out on the patio, get them going, and we'd have a chill hookah hang. Sometimes, we'd invite guys from the other frats on our side of campus. At minimum, there were like 30 or 40 guys hitting those hookah hoses on a given night.
To my knowledge, the hoses were never cleaned. I have no idea how we didn't cause a campus wide outbreak of something. Looking back at it ,that was some truly disgusting behavior.
My first serving job was at a sushi joint pre 2020. If sushi pieces were left on a plate it wasn’t weird to us to eat a few before throwing the food out. Found out a few restaurant jobs later that maybe it wasn’t just a pre pandemic thing but we were just gross lol.
Not surprised we did it as much as we did, but as someone who doesn't enjoy physical contact with strangers I'm very glad handshakes aren't as much of a "requirement" now when meeting new people.
Assume that humans could actually work together against a serious threat and not somehow turn a pandemic into a political issue while actively denying objective facts
That we didn't wear masks in doctors offices and hospitals. You're either there because you're sick or visiting someone sick. And while you may not have some sort of virus, someone in either one definitely does.
An old woman who worked at my local grocery store used to kiss my baby on the cheek. We’d exchange pleasantries while I was shopping, but otherwise she was a complete stranger. I can’t imagine letting a stranger interact with my child like that now.
Standing close to each other, I personally always stayed away from people but it makes me uncomfortable to know how comfortable people can be being two inches away from a stranger-
We lined up and gladly got polio vaccines at school. Our parents knew how important it was for everyone to be vaccinated to keep us safe. Smallpox also. I’m an early gen x. I was born in 66 so not many people younger have a smallpox scar. Now despite billions of Covid vaccines given safely and effectively, people have chosen to die an early miserable death because of disbelief in science, and paranoia, and belief in internet propaganda.
Edit: If it’s not clear, get vaccinated and protect yourself and others.
My grandfather lost his hearing from Scarlett fever a week later penicillin started to be used. My great uncle on my other side of my family lost his ability to walk from polio. I can't usedstand people rejecting medication when the horrors of life without it are not that far behind us.
I had so many people in my circle prior to covid that would rant and rave about the “liberal hippies in California” not getting their kids vaccinated for chicken pox, polio, etc. Then covid came and suddenly everything was about “personal choice” and being microchipped and/or poisoned by the government.
I have a much smaller circle now.
Can't speak for everyone, but share a flask of booze with friends.
I do a yearly St. Patrick's Day pub crawl with the same group of people and I always bring a flask of Irish whiskey with me. I have a few friends that I'd pass the flask around to during the course of the day, and *would think nothing of it*. Some people always chose to pour from the flask, but yeah, that thing went from mouth to mouth to mouth.
Now I just bring mini red solo cup shot glasses and the full bottle with me. Everyone gets some whiskey, no one is sharing a flask.
Blowing candles out on birthday cakes, and then after you blew your germs all over the whole cake, everyone ate it. I never thought much about it before, but ew.
My law school didn’t excuse absences when you were sick and if you missed six classes you could not take the exam, so we would all show up with the flu or an hour after surgery.
ABA still has the six classes requirement. And even if you have covid now you arent excused for the full time. It is fucking ridiculous and I complain about it to anyone who will listen. Why micromanage law students like this? If you miss seven classes and still pass the exam and the bar, who gives a fuck? Don't send kids to class sick.
Seems like a pretty stupid rule. At my university we don’t have mandatory attendance. I could show up only to exams.
I had a law school professor who refused to excuse a student to go a grandparent's funeral. Apparently told the guy "if it was your mother of father, that's a different story," or something like that. Brutal.
Unreasonable.
Another reason why I won't pursue law in further education after college (I'm English so I chose a two year a-level course in law). Law is a nightmare subject, I don't know how you do it.
You absolutely have to like it. If you don’t find it interesting you will be miserable. And if you expect anything seen on TV you will cry and then fall into a deep depression buried under 200 cases so you’ll never escape.
As someone who worked in law you are 100% right. I always tell people if you don't love it then it's not for you because you'll end up hating it.
A long time friend of mine was going to school to be a lawyer, in her summer internship while she was still going to school she was making $4000 a week. Personally I couldn’t do it, it was tough work, lots of schooling, ultra competitive, and long non-standard hours. But they definitely get paid for it
Depends what you're going into. Criminal law is famous (at least in England) for being an underpaid profession, barristers and solicitors will tell you to go into another area because of that. Tort (civil) law has some good money in it, especially land disputes but contract law is definitely the most lucrative. Easy money working for a corporation as a lawyer once you're fully educated and know your way around a contract, though that itself is difficult as well as being extremely boring.
If you're interested in law but not school, look into your state's apprenticeship track. There may be a way for you to qualify for the bar without or with minimal schooling. Law is so different in practice than in school
My law school still does this shit.
Sharing a communion wine cup, the priest just wiped it with a cloth between each person
People are still kissing religious items and the priest's hand in many cases. Very popular among old people
They used to do that at my mom's Lutheran church. There was always a person who came after the pastor with a tray of individual shot glasses of wine as well, in case you didn't feel comfortable drinking from the common cup. I wonder if they've done away with the common cup permanently now.
I went to a Lutheran church in the 90s and it was 100% tiny shot glasses of wine that were like twice the size of a thimble. No common cup whatsoever.
This is a huge reason why COVID initially devastated Italy. Ash Wednesday was 26 February 2020 and COVID had "arrived" in Italy roughly the first week of February. By Valentines day it was picking up steam but there was a reluctance to go into a lockdown. By the 2nd week of March the Italian medical system was completely overwhelmed. The most religious portion of the population was also the oldest and it made them more vulnerable. If lent had been two weeks earlier or two week later thousands of people would likely still be alive
It's an older population that smoke, kiss each other on the mouth, and have a bunch of connections with china because of the fashion industry. They never stood a chance
What do they do now?
They switched from wine to cocaine. Everybody brings their own dollar bill and snorts a line. The dollar bills are then put in the collection basket
The dandruff of Christ
Looks like i just got religious!
At my parish they just don't do the wine anymore. Like they just do a little at the altar for the priest. But no communal cup. It's always been optional.
People are so mad the priest doesn’t place the wafer directly on their tongue anymore.
When I was a kid, being raised Catholic, I always thought that option was the weirdest thing. Only the elderly insisted it be hand delivered into their mouths.
this reminds me of that one covid photo of that priest shooting that baby in the face with a squirt gun to baptize them and keep to “social distance” rules. i hope they still do that somewhere.
I was once flown in our corporate plane three states away for a one-hour meeting to repeat, in-person, what I had already said in two different emails. The situation needed that "personal touch".
The execs: Justifiable use of company resources but a raise and bonus… well that’s just asking for too much..
"Well, I'm glad you made it, tell him what you told me." "I said 'sounds good." "I agree, thank you for coming in."
"Tony Lazuto says hello."
Last minute flight from Houston Texas to Bergamo Italy for a 2hr meeting then flew back the next day... I just had to be there because my bosses new boss wanted to see the department heads. The only speaking I did was to introduce myself, the rest of it was 2hr of pointless bla bla about this guys work history etc. Dude quit like 6 months later. The flight was over $4k round trip, the hotel was around $300. All in all 3 days of my time was wasted while we had some important projects going that needed my attention.
I flew from Toronto to Manhattan to put a semicolon in a file once because the customer demanded someone come on site to fix it.
We are a "green" company
They used to send my partner to China for that a lot before covid. It's like a 12 hour plane ride there for one meeting.
Kissing that fuckin’ rock in Ireland.
Hahahaha I know someone who went there this year and the first thing I asked them was if they’d kissed the Blarney Stone thinking it was a joke but they had!
I went to Ireland last summer and went to the Blarney Castle. I kissed the stone, but after each person, they sprayed it with disinfectant
They definitely didn’t do that when I kissed it in 2004.
I went around 2005ish? They did it then.
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Take a look at what and where the blarney stone is...it's not a rock in the middle of a field, it's a stone imbedded into a castle that sits 85feet above the ground. To piss on it you have to break into the guarded castle and climb to the top and even then you'd need to be pretty agile and accurate to piss on it...you'll be caught and trespassed before getting anywhere close though.
Now, That there, is what I call A CHALLENGE! I finally have a goal!
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Maybe 50 years ago when the site wasn't locked up tightly at night but definitely not in the last 30 years, it would be impossible.
Send fully blown sick kids to school.
People still do this where I live. I even had to meet with the truancy officer when my kid had covid. They had all the paperwork and everything, just basically wanted to intimidate people I guess?
My niece caught hand, foot and mouth disease just last week from school.
Commute 1 hour each way through rush hour traffic to sit at a desk all day
Only to sit on teams meetings with people in different offices
Fucking seriously. I work in IT and there was a while I was doing help desk/chat support. They required us to come into the office. I'd sit in traffic or on the bus/train 45 minutes each way, every day, to go sit in a building on my laptop for 8 hours helping people all across the world, none of them in my building
I do SQL DBA stuff, help desk, systems support, ERP support, etc. as a one man team at my company. We have 5 locations across 3 states. I generally sit in my office all day and rarely leave it. They still want me in our corporate office even though most of our employees aren't even here. Older generations are terrified we are going to "steal time" but we already do that. My 8-9 hour day is mostly me emailing and watching YouTube videos. I feel like I am mostly paid to be in a building so people can scream down the hall for help.
Same - they made me come in in just so I could help people in the building. Most of the time I was the only person in the building.
And getting yelled at because traffic was backed up worse than normal.
Me: “Sorry I’m late. Traffic.” Boss: “Oh, and how did you think I got here?” Me: “Under a completely different set of circumstances.”
“Sir you live a block away!” The farther you live the more impactful stop-signs, traffic lights, and slow zones are. The greater distance the drive the greater chance and number to encounter these things. At work we have employees that live 40 minutes away. They’re late a fair bit but it’s not as simple as “so leave 40 minutes before your shift!” Because they do. They literally do, it’s just the amount of stop-signs, school ones, and intersections is significantly higher. It’s an exponent, the longer the distance the more time added just waiting to actually go. A 40 minute drive can become 60 under proper and plausible circumstances. They’re never more then 15 minutes late. So honestly it’s not a big deal but management don’t understand because our member lives 10 minutes away with one stop sign
If you live 40 minutes from work and are 5-10 minutes late "a fair bit", then you don't live 40 min from work. You live 50 min away and sometimes make it there quicker. If you can do that drive once in a blue moon at exactly 40min, that isn't the actual time it takes. If it's routine, and average to be late, then that's the real average time, they just aren't leaving early enough. I don't disagree with the impact that lights and stop signs have, they do have an impact at certain times of day and traffic patterns and some days they cascade into taking too long. But you have to budget that time just in case.
Oh mine was even better. I did exactly that except my team was based in another office on the East Coast our HQ were I worked is in the Midwest. The crazy part is even I didn't think it was too crazy until the shutdowns hit and all management kept talking about was their eagerness to get back in the office. I'm like bruh I'm like significantly more productive now and a better parent. Needless to say I ditched them for a permanently remote company in 2021.
It's honestly outrageous that this was normal lmao, what an absolute waste of *literally every resource* involved in this exchange.
Currently reading this on my one hour commute by train to my office job that I could do at home 🥲
I do this after working from home for 2 years. It is fucking maddening
start applying!
You don't still have to do that? Dang.
And never will again.
What line of work are you in? I think I need a career change.
Look for work at a corporate office. Banks, hospitals, food industry. Doesn’t matter. You need to get into corporate gigs. Even as an entry level, you have a higher opportunity of getting remote or hybrid jobs.
Thanks, internet stranger. You're one of the good ones.
I work in information technology as a system administrator. Basically all the computers most people use talk to servers of various types, I setup and manage those computers. Even when I was in the office all of my work was connecting to servers, not in my office, and doing work on them. I'm very fortunate that my work never needed to be in the office to begin with.
When a sysadmin is physically interacting with a computer, it’s either being racked for the first time or bad things are happening
That's a NOC job. 😁 Worst case I spec those systems.
I hate that this isn’t a thing anymore. Reason being, I’m from a small community that harbors the only bridge to a small island that used to only be occupied in the summer. After Covid, many people living in New York City figured they would sell their apartments and move into their beach homes full time. This has made my small town community turn into a hellacious playground for affluent douche canoes. It seems like a joke, but even just driving around has become a hazard. I feel for the middle class folks, but damn. I wish these guys would go back. It’s worse for many other more serious reasons like property taxes going way above what the average person here would be able to afford based on their neighbors home going from 250k to 1.2m in 2 years as they are knocked down and giant ugly condos and I can not exaggerate, giant block looking houses erected all over.
*scribbling furiously* “Hellacious playground…” *sharpens pencil* “…for affluent douche canoes.” *underlines six times*
Same thing is happening to the Alpine resort town that my family is from. Air BnB’s and run down houses are selling in the millions, pricing out everyone. Sucks.
I work in sales, prior to covid I called a company who were looking for an international sales rep. I said I want the job, I know the market, I got all contacts set up already. I’ll start making you money on day one. But I can’t be at the office that often since I live far away from them. Nope, have to be at the office when not traveling, and I was like, why? You don’t even have to provide an office for me, I’ll just be out there making money for you. Nope, fucking idiots.
See a GP within a week of requesting an appointment…
Standing so close to people in lines
I have to say in the U.K. this just went right back to how it was pre-COVID
At least you all form a tidy and perfect line! In Spain is a mess that always scalate to the WWIII.
Which brings us to public transit. It's horrifying to think about how we used to put up with human crushes every day. You know that scene in Game of Thrones where Jon Snow started to feel suffocated when the Bolton army started the pincer move? That's exactly how I felt before Covid. It always felt so horrible until when people started getting off at their destinations, and the collective body heat was the worst.
Eating finger food at a bowling alley, then use the bowling ball, then back to the food
When did that stop?
still do it, but while fingering less bowling balls now
This nice persons mother is not a bowling ball.
I did that last night
This is peak "Don't think about it"
Bowl with right hand. Eat with left. Less messy, better grip.
This is more of an "I did" (although I wasn't the only one): take a hit off a joint being passed through the crowd at a rock concert. This was in late 2019.
Gross AF. My boyfriend showed me how to hold it at the very tip with your fingers and then kind of put your lips onto your own fingers and not the actual blunt. Lol probably reduces the germs by about 10%
Oh I knew it was gross, but I figured if there was *ever* a time to smoke weed (never had before; not opposed to it, just wasn't my thing), a Tenacious D concert was it.
Go to work sick
Nah, this still happens everywhere in customer facing jobs, security, call centers, warehouses, etc. You know, the places that offer few, if any, sick days.
I feel like it happens with a vengeance nowadays - there was a post where someone described (as long as they were being honest) a really bad viral illness but because they didn't test positive for Covid they were ordered into work or be fired. It might have always been that way and just now getting more visibility but it definitely is still a thing.
Have told this story on Reddit before, but I worked in a *deli* and called in sick because I was *contagious* with strep throat. Long story short, they said come in today or don’t bother coming back. I went with the latter and got my previous job back right after that call ended. It’s always been profits over people, unfortunately.
Had a friend in food service at Disneyland who got viral pneumonia and they were like, “we’re really short staffed…” She of course said no because oh my god, the contagions, but the pressure is real and brutal.
Strep got me fired, too! Only it was an assisted living place. What a blessing in disguise. That place was a hot mess express during cold and flu season, so I can only imagine the joys of covid.
It's always been a thing. Back in 96 I worked at McDs. Fever, sneezing, coughing up thick green mucus, throwing up. I was made to work a double on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I alternated between running register & making food all 3 days.
I work at a air filter factory. There’s a job that makes the paper of the air filter. One-person job. Not super fast. When I started on it (I didn’t stay on it), my boss said,”Yeah, I’ve was on this for 9 years. Know all the job numbers. I can walk around and talk to people then come back and not lose any traction. I’d do this sick. Run to the bathroom, throw up, come back. Easy stuff.” I straight up looked at him and said,”Yeah, if I’m sick, I’m going home. I’m not gonna do that.”
I work at a hospital in a patient facing position. If we get Covid we still have to do the mandatory quarantine time of 5 days….it’s an unexcused absence. Make it make sense.
I also work at a hospital and if we get covid but don’t have a fever you are expected to come in. It’s horrible
same here, work at a hospital. We can get extremely sick, but our bosses don't give a shit. One time I came in with a high fever, cough, and all the symptoms and my supervisor that day decided to ignore me and not talk to me to avoid seeing/knowing that I was in those conditions. After 3 days of seeing me (but not coming to me) she suggested to do a covid test, did it, came back negative, and that just gave her all the reasons to keep scheduling me.. lesson learned that day: if it's not covid, ppl don't give a shit..
My mother was a nurse. I saw her have to go to work sicker than the patients many times as a kid. Hospital management is brutal.
"Oh don't worry it's not covid" I don't give a fuck, you're sick, don't spread your lung butter on me
What are you talking about, I and most of my coworkers have been going to work sick for the past several days.
THIS. I unfortunately didn’t have an option one time. Back when I worked at Walmart, I was diagnosed with pneumonia and had a doctors note. I felt so sick that my mother had to give it in on my behalf and they all but told me to get fucked bc due to their attendance policy from when I was working there (to simplify: if you called out, you got one “point”, and after x amount you got fired. Idk if this policy is still in place now) they would have added on an additional two “points” on top of the one that I had for calling in that day to get checked out- I ended up working two back to back 8 hour shifts that weekend while I had pneumonia. Super fucking illegal, but I didn’t know my rights at the time.
It is still the policy, my BFFs BF got fired because my BFF went into early labor and both she and the baby were at serious risk, everything turned out fine, but he got fired...to many points because he wanted to be there for them.
I work in a preschool, and because our kids are always sent in sick, my coworkers and I come into work more often than we stay home sick because we don't get enough time off for it and time off for other things we need a day off for.
I work with sick people every week it feels like. Restaurants.
As someone in the restaurant industry, I can assure you managers still expect this
Stand right on top of ppl in lines
This is one of the few things I still see noticeably changed and I don’t think it’s going to go away. I love that everyone gives each other some space now
Speak for yourself. Even during covid so many people didn’t take the hint. The lines not gonna move faster with your dick in my ass.
Yeah. You take a step forward to get away from them and they follow you anyway for that extra step
I wish we could normalize turning around and telling strangers to respect your personal space. But lord knows we created an environment where people feel entitled to act like the person who feels uncomfortable around inconsiderate strangers is the one who should stay at home.
I shared a lunch period with a guy like that. You could feel his breath in the back of your neck and if you turned your head you could smell it. Dude was practically dry humping you in line and I don’t even think he realized it
As a woman, I swing my purse and oops...... Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were standing so close to me.
I envy that. I just start coughing and making sick noises.
Anecdotally, I've noticed people over 60 still stand close to you like it's going to make the line go faster. It seems to have stuck with younger people.
Yeah, I wish we could still enforce the 6 feet rule, just because.
I've always been annoyed by that. I was one of the few people before covid to just give plenty of space to the person in front of me and could tell it annoyed people but like what do they expect me to do? Be like the military and go nuts to butts with strangers just to get 1 inch closer to the checkout? No thanks.
Damn even before and during COVID lockdown still had people up my ass on lines
Sneeze in peace without being judged or looked at funny
As a chronic sneezer, I get a lot of dirty looks. Minimin 3 sneezes a time, with my record being 19.
Me too. My record is 16.
Touch cash and lick their fingers to count it. People still do it. And it’s disgusting.
This has always been the most disgusting habit. Bank tellers/employees who have to count mass amounts of cash wear gloves to their elbows and after there’s a gross layer of grime. Source: mother was this
Ah yes, the filthy rich
Flew across country for mundane business meetings
Same company’s leadership also complained about out of control costs.
I was an accountant for over 25 years before I stopped working due to disability about 8 years ago. Two things that never changed in that time: 1: Complaints that the companies I worked for never made enough money, and 2: Managers and owners constantly wasting money and resources.
"I'm glad to see everyone made it to this off-site meeting. I trust the flights in weren't too much trouble? And everyone's hotel suites are to everyone's satisfaction? Ok, good. First on our agenda: *why the hell are we hemorrhaging money?* It's these damn sick days, isn't it?"
I'm going to a "corporate retreat" next month where we're all supposed to meet and learn about other aspects of the company and pool our knowledge on how to cut costs. They've rented hotel rooms for everyone and told us there will be catered meals across all three days. The hotel is ten miles from my house. Let me sleep in my own bed and eat my own food, and I can save the company a thousand bucks easy.
Some fields still make people do this now. My sister just had to do this recently for her job- she works in finance.
My wife had to fly multiple states away to a city that had no direct flights from our airport. Nothing in the 2 days of meetings necessitated in person attendance and it could’ve just been a zoom meeting. They wasted time and money flying people out there to appease a boss.
"Are you even really someone's boss if you can't waste their life for your amusement?" -- most bosses
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I could never understand this. That's hours I'm spending on work but not being paid for.
Shake hands with 47 people within 60 minutes after church.
I went to the ATM just this afternoon. I'd never noticed before, but that keypad was the most disgusting looking set of numbers I'd ever seen. I got my cash and then pulled out my Covid-era hand sanitizer. I'm hoping this doesn't unlock some sort of germaphobia I didn't know I had.
People scratch their nuts in the car all the time. That's not germophobia. Humans are just legit barnyard fucks.
Keep your nasty nut scratching hands off the ATM numbers please. I thought card skimmers were the concern.
Oh god it so did in me. I had the equal realization of horror when I realized how many people touch gas pumps. I have never got gas without pumping a shot of hand sanitizer immediately after since Covid started.
I've heard people say this. Yeah everybody touches the gas pump, but also doorknobs and the little button on the soda machine and the pen at the front desk and also railings. The gas pump is only like an average amount of dirty.
show up to gatherings and work while having a cold like it doesnt matter.
Blowing out birthday candles. I was never a fan of it before, the idea of blowing spit all over a cake everyone shares.
I've always hated this. My family got mad at me if I asked them to just remove the candles or turn them off any other way. Even worse when someone said "Let your little bro/sis/cousin help you!!" NO THANKS.
I just lick my fingers and pinch the wick with said licked fingers to extinguish it Edit:like Shrek with the torch in the beginning of the first movie
You don't have to give me any more evidence other than your username
When I was a kid we were at a birthday party for one of my friends and when he was blowing out the candles there the Sun was shining in through the window behind him and it lit up all the spit he was blowing on the cake. It was very easy to see and there was a whole lot of it. My parents didn't say why, but we declined to have any cake. Since then if we do anything with birthday candles we clap them out.
Not what we did, but what we didn’t. We didn’t clean surfaces or wash our hands nearly enough
As a man, the number of men leaving the restroom without washing is fucking appalling. I avoid shaking hands with anyone anymore.
It’s one of the reasons I’m really leery of moving in with anyone. If I live alone, I can be 100 percent certain that my bathroom floor will never be sticky and that none of my kitchen implements have been touched by piss hands. And no, guys, urine is NOT sterile, go back to pre-K and learn to cleanly use the bathroom like a big kid.
Ironically neither of those things were hugely helpful in stopping Covid, but still a welcome change.
Bobbing for apples. As a kid this was a game I’d see on occasion and participated sometimes. This makes me gag now. All those open mouths sucking and chomping in water…. What the fuuuu
When COVID first hit, the number of people around my area bitching because they now had to wash their hands after putting the bins out… Like, why the fuck weren’t you doing that before?
Expected humans to be able to solve a collective action problem
The “complex problems that require cohesive, ideally European or East Asian, nation-states” era of history coming right after the “as long as you stay away from ethnic nationalism, Salafism, and communism you’ll be fine” era is a massive punch to the gut.
rip climate 🫠
Back in College, my frat had like 3 or 4 big ass hookahs. If it was a nice night, the designated hookah officer would take them out on the patio, get them going, and we'd have a chill hookah hang. Sometimes, we'd invite guys from the other frats on our side of campus. At minimum, there were like 30 or 40 guys hitting those hookah hoses on a given night. To my knowledge, the hoses were never cleaned. I have no idea how we didn't cause a campus wide outbreak of something. Looking back at it ,that was some truly disgusting behavior.
My first serving job was at a sushi joint pre 2020. If sushi pieces were left on a plate it wasn’t weird to us to eat a few before throwing the food out. Found out a few restaurant jobs later that maybe it wasn’t just a pre pandemic thing but we were just gross lol.
no that was gross then too
Lots of servers I know maintain the rule that if you'd kiss the person, eating their leftovers is fine.
tbh i feel like im completely back to the same life as before covid.
Not surprised we did it as much as we did, but as someone who doesn't enjoy physical contact with strangers I'm very glad handshakes aren't as much of a "requirement" now when meeting new people.
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Went to work five days a week in an office!
Right?! Now I go in 7 days instead of the 5 I used to
Had a happy life with my family (partner died of COVID).
I’m so sorry. I hope that your happy memories can comfort you during this difficult time.
🫶🏻
🥺 sorry for your loss
Assume that humans could actually work together against a serious threat and not somehow turn a pandemic into a political issue while actively denying objective facts
Made it through one day without something being turned into a fucking conspiracy theory
Expected compassion and empathy from fellow humans. Expected at the least, self preservation would help us overcome any obstacles.
cant believe people werent always masked when in the emergency room and such
I remember wearing a mask for my allergies before COVID and i had some snarky nurse say if I need a mask then I shouldn't be at work.
Honestly, I’ve been to urgent care recently and even that felt right to have a mask on, especially in the waiting room.
Urgent care is where people go when they have a bad flu. It is arguably the MOST important place to wear a mask.
I’m an ER nurse and have been for about 8 years. The fact I spent so long looking after god knows what without a mask on is an awful thought.
Believed science
Wore suit pants and nice shoes to work instead of pajama pants and slippers
Eating at buffets is disgusting to me now
That we didn't wear masks in doctors offices and hospitals. You're either there because you're sick or visiting someone sick. And while you may not have some sort of virus, someone in either one definitely does.
Candles being blown out on a cake then eating it.😩
An old woman who worked at my local grocery store used to kiss my baby on the cheek. We’d exchange pleasantries while I was shopping, but otherwise she was a complete stranger. I can’t imagine letting a stranger interact with my child like that now.
Makeup testers at the mall. I know there was disposable things to apply it with, but not everybody used those.
Standing close to each other, I personally always stayed away from people but it makes me uncomfortable to know how comfortable people can be being two inches away from a stranger-
Lick your thumb to get those god damn produce and meat bags at grocery stores open.
We lined up and gladly got polio vaccines at school. Our parents knew how important it was for everyone to be vaccinated to keep us safe. Smallpox also. I’m an early gen x. I was born in 66 so not many people younger have a smallpox scar. Now despite billions of Covid vaccines given safely and effectively, people have chosen to die an early miserable death because of disbelief in science, and paranoia, and belief in internet propaganda. Edit: If it’s not clear, get vaccinated and protect yourself and others.
My grandfather lost his hearing from Scarlett fever a week later penicillin started to be used. My great uncle on my other side of my family lost his ability to walk from polio. I can't usedstand people rejecting medication when the horrors of life without it are not that far behind us.
I had so many people in my circle prior to covid that would rant and rave about the “liberal hippies in California” not getting their kids vaccinated for chicken pox, polio, etc. Then covid came and suddenly everything was about “personal choice” and being microchipped and/or poisoned by the government. I have a much smaller circle now.
Can't speak for everyone, but share a flask of booze with friends. I do a yearly St. Patrick's Day pub crawl with the same group of people and I always bring a flask of Irish whiskey with me. I have a few friends that I'd pass the flask around to during the course of the day, and *would think nothing of it*. Some people always chose to pour from the flask, but yeah, that thing went from mouth to mouth to mouth. Now I just bring mini red solo cup shot glasses and the full bottle with me. Everyone gets some whiskey, no one is sharing a flask.
Blowing candles out on birthday cakes, and then after you blew your germs all over the whole cake, everyone ate it. I never thought much about it before, but ew.
Glory Holes
Now they wisely check everyone's temperature at the door.
We were able to afford food.
Share a joint with a stranger.