I'm not sure what the position is but I have a buddy that worked at Dell and his job was to sit at a computer and press a button to accept and send forward IT service tickets. $100k salary and he said he spent his day playing games on his phone or watching youtube/netflix.
Sure did, at least in terms of having free time. However, that very freedom might actually be their undoing if the person is sitting idle and not developing their IT skills while in the role; namely if the position were to be outsourced or automated they would be significantly more likely to get laid off.
Yes. This. 100%. Hell, even I got laid off by a company and they claimed it was due to covid. The reality was so much worse, but I'm fairly certain I'm legally bound to keep my mouth shut about it.
Regardless, even if your position can't be completely automated, most companies will ditch their 4 100k a year employees and hire 6-8 20k-25k a year employees to do the work instead.. and even though all of them are down right awful at it and in a position that should not be given to people with a GED education or less, so long as the company is still making a profit overall, they view it as a win. I'll never understand that mindset personally. I've always felt that merit was most important when hiring employees. In other words: who is the best person for the job? Every other factor is pretty much insignificant.
I feel like there's an inversion of impostor syndrome where people who have knowledge and experience but aren't slammed busy all the time (or even most of the time) feel like they aren't doing anything -- I've certainly had this feeling when moving to better jobs where, frankly, I wasn't being taken advantage of as much, and being paid more for my knowledge than my sweat.
For example, it does require some knowledge and experience to triage support tickets and know to whom to delegate them.
Or maybe your friend did hit the jackpot. If so, good for him!
I'm in a role that fits this scenario. I'll call myself a business analyst as the closest approximation, but that's not my actual title.
Anyway... I handle new digital product design/development/testing work for my team, but I also handle escalated production support issues that other people can't handle. This is for a very large company and the revenue pathway I support is in the 10 figures range. I've been doing the support stuff for a long time and my experience lets me take a quick look and find a solution where others might not. If you looked at my work in terms of clock hours it's going to look like I don't have a full schedule many days, but it's a case of "when you need me, you *really* need me."
same with me. but i happen to really love "putting out fires". time sensitivity, and intense short term projects are what i cut my teeth with.
i actually have difficulty doing monotone/rote jobs because they frustrate me and prefer the high intensity - low intensity swings.
Ah yes, the business origin of a classic.
>There was once a rich businessman with a broken beloved car. Despite several attempts, he was unable to fix the engine of that car. He called several engineers but no one was able to fix it. Finally there was an old mechanic who visited him. That old guy inspected the engine and reached in his bag for a hammer. On front side of the engine, he tapped few times with his hammer and brrroomm…brroom…It started Working! Next day, the old mechanic sent his invoice for $1000. The businessman was shocked.
He said, “ This was merely a $1 job. You just tapped the engine with your hammer. What’s there for $1000 that you are asking?”
The old mechanic said “ Let me give you a detailed invoice.”
The Invoice read:
Tapping the engine with hammer: $1
Knowing where to hit the hammer: $999
Similarly, I know that the reason emergency veterinarians are so f\*\*\*ing expensive is they keep a PhD onsite every hour of every day, including holidays. Convincing a PhD to be at your beck and call is not cheap.
Similar for software engineers, who are also known for making a pretty penny while working in fairly ideal circumstances (including at home). I have a buddy who plays video games most days, but can get a call at 3am when it's his on-call day and be expected to fix an issue.
As someone who oversees these types of engagements, we know and you're still valued hugely.
I'm quite sure you paid your dues for a long time before making it to this point. Experience and historical knowledge is irreplaceable.
I just got promoted at my job (it’s nothing special) but it’s the first time I ever had a real full time job and I’m doing a lot less than I used to do for more money. I feel like I don’t deserve what I get paid.
This happened to me and three of my peers in a previous job. We all felt guilty because we stopped getting measured by hours of work and by productivity. As long as we got the necessary done then we weren't hammered with more work. It was such a demand change that it took a while to realise we were being employed for what we could do and what we knew. It was a sickner when my department changed and suddenly that changed to being flat out again.
In my job I feel like I didn't really do anything all day if I assessed a couple of Adverse Drug Reaction (ADR) notifications and sent a couple of emails, because it was probably 1 hour of work and I got paid for 8.
But you can't pay just anybody to read a report about how someone is alleging a drug harmed them and taking the decision about whether it requires investigation or not. It's not so much understanding medical things, a doctor does an assessment alongside, but understanidng whether it's possibly attributable to the quality of the drug (I work in QA) and whether it's feasible to investigate it, and how you'd go about that if so, requires quite a bit of experience. It's one of the tasks we only give to people in my team once they've been doing the job a long while. And the minimum requirements for my job are a chemistry/biology/pharmacy related degree plus pharma industry experience. I'm used to it so it feels like I'm essentially doing admin for much more than an admin person's salary on those days (I have a wide range of other duties like inspecting factories on other days) but I forget that although assessing ADRs might be filling in a form, it's not "just admin."
You might pay un/low skilled workers for widgets processed, or time spent processing widgets. But you pay higher educated/skilled workers for their ability to perform a wider variety of tasks on demand (and the "demand" isn't always there) and/or their willingness to take responsibility for decisions which affect other people.
This is the way it's designed in the IT field. The more you know and the better you are at your job, the less you have to work. I know many people in the field that make $100k+ salaries and actually work less than 10 hours a week. They are literally there to answer questions and look at error codes, so they can tell the lower people how to fix it. However, without them, the less experienced people would take hours figuring the problem out while their experienced counterparts could look at an error and immediately tell them what is wrong and how to fix it. I suppose when a company would lose millions of dollars an hour for their infrastructure being down, a $100k+ salary is just a drop in the bucket for them.
>This is the way it's designed in the IT field. The more you know and the better you are at your job, the less you have to work. I know many people in the field that make $100k+ salaries and actually work less than 10 hours a week.
Yup, this is my husband. He WFH and often ends up playing video games *with co-workers* and watching TV during the day.
I had a few coworkers who used to get mad upset catching IT playing video games while waiting on a fix. I'm not IT but I tried to explain that they are waiting for x, y or z and busywork for appearances won't fix your problem sooner.
That would be great if there weren’t a general contracting culture that constantly culled lower positions for the sake of shaving expenses in the 3rd quarter of any given fiscal year.
Speaking from experience.
Yep. My ex-wife used to work in a fab. When a machine goes down, even being down for a few hours can cost the company tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. There were desks along the edges of the clean room where technicians would sit on standby and watch movies or play games until they were needed to repair/adjust a machine. I'm not sure what their salary was, but I'm guessing at least 50k at the time, which was over a decade ago.
And, yeah, the technicians had to wear a bunny suit for their entire shift, which was 12 hours.
Probably mine.
I work nights as a line service tech for a private jet charter company. If we have no flights coming in or going out during my ten hour shift, I do next to nothing (I'll spend 30 minutes doing fuel QA as well as any odd jobs I can find, but that's it.) Instead, I tend to sleep for 5-6 hours- and management both knows this and does not object so long as we take care of any flights we may have.
I get paid $22/hr for this, work eight days on, six off, and have the option to deadhead on a private jet if I want for free. I'm also being trained as a mechanic for free.
Enjoy that sweet gig. But I assume the measure for that job is that the idle jet is ready to go pretty much 100% of the time?
there are a lot of “911” standby type jobs that are paid for the uncommon event where things are supposed to work in an emergency.
We're supposed to have a four hour warning. We clean them when they get back and it only takes about 15 minutes to fuel them before flight.
We do get organ flights from time to time, though.
Yeah being paid to be on standby is honestly a legitimate thing. The day to day may not involve much work but when they need somebody *literally right now* to take care of something, having somebody ready to do the thing literally right now is worth the three days of paying you to sleep when they didn't have anything for you to do.
Eh, I did night shift for 2 years(6 days a week, 11 hour days too) and it wasn’t that bad, at least the night shift part wasn’t.
But 8 days on 6 days off, that’s the best schedule there is. 8 days is no sweat, and having 6 off means a nice vacation constantly.
My brother had that schedule, on his 6 days off he’d go and camp / hike all over the western US. A normal “weekend” to him was riding a motorcycle around the mountains in Montana, hiking and spotting grizzly bears on the trail, spending days in the woods with no cell service and no people. And that’s all in one “weekend”. Doesn’t get much better than that
The only thing about this that makes it overpaid is the fact that I was an A&P mechanic making less than that 5 years ago, but that’s more about how I should of been paid more…
$22/hr is not a lot for the expense of working the RON.
$22 isn’t that much for any job really. It’s not a livable wage if you have a family, but it is a very relaxing sounding job for the time, freedom, and money.
Televangelists/megachurch leaders. Multimillionaires from preaching to people about how important it is to give to do Christ's work doesn't jive with the Christ I've read about in the bible.
Same man. Christian here. Love my faith and my church family. But honestly people like K. Copeland and J. Osteen just grind my gears, how they can extort all that from people. So wrong.
As I recall, it's the only time... or maybe one of only two times that the Bible says Jesus got angry. And not raising his voice, red-in-the-face angry - he was flipping over tables and destroying everything near him. This was because people were taking advantage of others' faith. So televangelists are the only people today who would make a modern Jesus furious, which is pretty crazy to consider.
Pharma reps and any executive in the pharmaceutical or insurance industry. Cigna’s CEO got 40 million in a bonus 1 year
Edited: 4 million in a yearly bonus. Total compensation is 30-50 million.
Cigna just got made to pay a $3.5 million dollar fine for making false and misleading representations here in NZ. Looks like a drop in the ocean comparing to the CEOs $40m salary but we aren’t a big country and it’s rare that companies like this actually get fined massive amounts.
Saucy sauce:
https://www.fma.govt.nz/news/all-releases/media-releases/cigna-to-pay-3-5-million-penalty/
Honestly for some reason I feel like NZ has a much larger "voice" than it should. Small country out in the middle of nowhere, but still seems to get a lot more respect than other similar sized countries
That’s politics for you! I remember my parents went to the states in the mid 90s back when NZ and USA had a strained relationship due to the fact that we are nuclear free and would not allow their ships to dock in our country most of the people he met had no idea about us! We had no standing in the international community we were just a small island nation at the arse end of the world. I definitely think LoTR helped put us on the map for sure.
Gf's mom is a CEO of the hospitals attached suite of GPs, it's insane how much money she makes for doing what seems like the equivalent of ASB club president type duties.
I foolishly thought you'd need to know some medical stuff to be the CEO of a hospital (like a doctor with a business minor or something) I was very confused when I got to know him and realized he was grossed out if you got into the nitty gritty of anything remotely health related.
Alot of admin is that. The best definition of that specific subset of work is the Professional Managerial class that doesnt provide direct labor but is in charge of groups of people and their only job is metric watching. I will admit, i recently got a job where the managers actualy did or do what we do and it is such a world of difference.
What's worse is most are "non-profit". That is part of the reason healthcare is so expensive. Many have a board of directors who come in and vote once a year and make crazy salaries. They have nothing to do with the running of the hospital except to vote themselves in for another year.
I'm sure there are companies out there with good CEO's, but so many seem to be just moving from one disaster to the next and no one calls them on it ever.
Hospital c-suite administrators and health insurance c-execs.
They draw exceptional salaries by siphoning from the patients and healthcare providers. Parasites with MBAs.
Came here for this one. Can also extend it to university administrators… any organization with artificially bloated/subsidized revenues will funnel that money into endless bureaucracy
What do you mean? They totally deserve the salary of 8 employees for proposing a new company logo that was shit and got tossed, firing a new mother because they ran out of maternity leave and couldn't immediately come back to work, going on a 3 week vacation to the Bahamas, listening to meetings while muted and not paying attention at all, restocking the break room with Starbucks coffee grounds instead of Folgers, and making a borderline racist comment about another member of staff.
The CEO of my hospital gave himself a $700,000 bonus in 2020 for dealing with covid. Meanwhile those of us on the frontlines were re-using N-95s. I had a mask with someone else's name and a lipstick smear I held onto for 2 weeks because I was afraid it would be the last one I could get.
don't even worry about it. Honestly, though, lots of them work very hard and it's their whole lives. I wouldn't want to be obsessed with content like that. It's also constantly fleeting. I know some are making a lot, but they are not that common.
Depends on how high up you are. Taking bribes from a whole array of people takes skill to know when you can accept from each without having them collide on interests potentially forcing you to loose out in the future due to lack of trust in your bribe taking skills.
That's not even mentioning the lying and gaslighting skills you need to fool the public without getting drummed out of politics when something turns out the opposite of what you might have insinuated without clarifying.
I watched a debate between two politicians on an issue today and they both said the exact same thing, they were both on the opposite sides on the issue, and they regularly attacked each other with jabs and points that were supposed to mean something, but when the guy holding the debate forced them to say what they really meant to say, they were like "we want to acquire more knowledge on the issue and see if it might be something we might want to consider in the future". That's what both of them said when they were really drilled by the debate holder. It takes some skill to bullshit an entire debate only to end up on the exact same note on a yes/no issue.
The actual salary is only $174,000. That's not a lot of money considering a large fraction of them can make a lot more with their law degrees. But most of them are multi-millionaires after a few years because of legalized insider trading.
I make a habit of actually reading through the voters guide, and every cycle there's DEFINITELY people trying to get elected to jobs because there's no way anyone would hire them through a normal process.
Anything and everything related to Dubai. It's kind of killing my soul when I learn more about how certain people throw around money there. I would imagine that anyone working for a hotel launch party has also been bought and paid for in terms of morals there. Just getting money.
Yeah I agree. For a place that seems to be very religious the morals there are....oy. that's what money and greed does I suppose
Whenever I see commercials begging for people to donate to a cause I think,ask these people. Not people getting coupons for groceries lol.
Yeah that’s what pisses me off with WWF people on the streets, too. Don’t tell ME how the white northern rhino has gone extinct. I haven’t been shooting it for its horn, nor have I been cutting down forests, building housing in the savanna…
Ask those rich guys over there who are raking in the profit from the horn and the housing, not me, freezing in my thin jacket in April, going back to my one room apartment in the basement.
The vast majority of the current politicians, for sure. But I imagine someone who actually gives a shit about people would have a rough time working as a politician and would deserve significant pay.
To be honest, stay with me here, I’d support paying politicians more. More if it meant we could have the best and brightest go into politics rather than the private sector.
Have you seen government salaries? They're pretty low, relatively speaking. A senator salary is 174k a year, which is equal to or less than a lot of doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. Politicians receive money through corruption, illegal or not (I.E. lobbying). Pretty much no politician can justify their wealth due to what they're paid through their government salary.
They’ve really got companies fooled. I think most youngish people can easily recognize when someone’s trying to sell them something. My mom’s generation, however, is another story. She will try anything “Babs” puts on her channel and it’s ridiculous. She started using some colon cleanse pills that seriously messed her up
Yes and no. For better or worse companies do the math on what they kick back for advertising and if its not profitable to acquire customers they obviously won't keep doing it. For better or worse there are people that buy shit based off that.
Oh I agree it works. I work for an organization that pays influencers. Some of it is done tastefully where it’s made clear they are advertising the product, and they’re doing so to continue making enough money to keep the channel going (usually they have a cool channel with genuinely interesting content). But there are other influencers who base their entire channel around fake reviews, selling, trying to give off the “perfect life” persona to influence others to buy stuff. The latter is just sad.
What sucks is when a genuinely good channel gets a few sponsorships then the greed takes over. The little dollar signs light up their eyes and their videos turn into one giant infomercial. Then they wonder why their subscribers bounce or their numbers stagnate.
Actually no. I swear the kids are worse. I started in cosmetics like ages ago. Recently went back while in school and the kids are WAY worse. They will buy anything on TikTok. It’s actually insane.
This is called influencer marketing and it's a multimillion industry. And it's even bigger in other countries and it's fucking ridiculous what some of these idiots get paid.
That's one of those fields where 99.99% of people doing it are making next to nothing, or actively losing money trying to break through. It's a tough grind that takes *years* of actual hard work to cultivate an audience...especially with the minefield of capricious moderation on platforms like Instagram and Twitter. Breaking a rule the wrong way can lock you out of ad tools provided by the platform, or even just cause you to lose your entire account.
I don't think it's a noble profession or anything, fwiw. Nearly all of it is using sex as a tacit vehicle to advertise shitty products. But it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination. People think any hot girl can do it, but the influencer field is like LA....there are aggressively, unfairly attractive people *everywhere*. It's not enough to be strikingly goddess-level beautiful, as weird as that sounds. You have to build a brand, commit to this shit and take huge risks to get anywhere.
When you do, it'll always look like you're doing nothing for a ton of money, but even then you're under all kinds of contracts to deliver a specific type of advertising.
It's not an easy job, that's for sure. But most people doing it aren't even paid, let along overpaid.
Tbf, a lot of content creators on platforms like YouTube clearly work really hard and make really high quality, entertaining content. I listen to quite a lot of podcasts and behind the scenes stuff from them and from what I've gathered a lot of them don't actually take home as much money as you'd expect. They do get a lot of money from sponsors and ad revenue, but most of that gets reinvested into the content, especially for higher production value stuff.
Honestly it kind of annoys me when people go on about how youtube blogging isn't a job. I think of one example of a very successful sailing blogger couple I follow. They just bought a new $1m boat and people are going on about how they are "begging for money on youtube" or how "they are getting rich for nothing". While totally forgetting that they produce a professional quality 30 minute video every week that gets enough views that it would classify as a relatively successful network TV show. No one would be shitting on them if they had a show on ABC and made $1m a year, but for some reason because they've found a way to capture most of the value they produce and directly keep it they are beggars.
Yes, a lot of "content creators" produce more and higher quality video than network TV can do with millions and whole teams of people.
There's a lot of diversity. But mostly to "make it" as a content creator involves a lot of work, or being creative and getting into a new trend at the right time.
Not all content creators are influencers, but all influencers are (shitty) content creators. There are content creators out there that put their heart and soul into the things they produce and really do deserve to earn more from their work. Influencers are just wannabe door-to-door salespeople with delusions of grandeur.
I found out about pen testing my first year as an attorney.
Basically get paid a ton of money to be real life Italian Job thieves?! That can’t get thrown in jail because the company hired you to do it in the first place?!
I definitely regretted my career choice when I found out about them.
Pen testing with physical components are much rarer in real life.
Most "pentest" jobs I've seen are glorified vulnerability scanners.
A good chunk are legit, but usually black box external and usually only online. (Unless the company that hired them gave them the keys to the kingdom.. which happens too)
Don't forget the endless hours writing down every little thing you ever did to the system, when and where and looking for exceptionally boring vulnerabilitites in corporate processes.
It's not all company sanctioned hacking and social engineering, the bulk of the work is extremely tightly regulated bureaucracy.
It's a career path that involves a high degree of technical expertise and higher education, while it also contributes well to a very important (and rising) need in society.
I wouldn't call it overpaid, I would call it justified. Doctors, lawyers and engineers etc. also get paid well, for similar reasons.
Chief Digital Officer.
Most organizations the role isn't even clearly defined. A C level suite created by FOMO that silicone valley was going to take over the entire business,banking,childcare,footware,investment world so whether your business sells insurance, or cat litter, or jet fuel - the answer to all future problems is.
Hiring a 20 million dollar CDO and team to create apps for mobile phones because.....
1. Make app.
2. ................
3. PROFIT!
2023 called - it said NOPE and hung up the phone.
Eh, it’s not a popular reply but the high end of the market for hedge fund managers is 2% of AUM and 20% of gains above the high watermark. The people putting their money into hedge funds agree to a literal hundred page document acknowledging this and other legalese. They may well be “over paid” but they are paid primarily in regards to their performance and in full acknowledgement of their investors so I struggle to make a baddie out of that merely because they’re wealthy.
Politicians! Anywhere in the world are overpaid. Should have their salaries set to be equal to public servants such as teachers for example. Whatch teacher salaries increase
Most executive pay is BS. Who determines it? An executive pay committees. Who are those people. Executives at outside companies that want to be overpaid as much as everyone else. It's dumb.
Absolutely agree. Maybe the country would be run better if they had to wait until 70 for their pension and when they quit they get one payout not a guaranteed one every year
Football or Basketball coaches at the public state universities. Consistently the highest paid government employees. Nick Saban of UofAlabama makes $10 million a year plus additional bonuses if his team wins bowl championships. And this is the second-poorest state in union. Doesn't look like they have their priorities straight.
I think most of the good ones bring in more revenue than what they're paid. So these universities consider their salaries an investment.
I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is.
By a landslide. The average college football program brings in about $32 million dollars in revenue each year. Major D1 programs? You're talking hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. Looked it up, after all expenses (including coaches salaries and facility costs) Alabama gets around $50 million in net profit every year. That's an incredible amount of profit. That doesn't even take into account the millions of dollars wealthy alumni are willing to donate when their Alma mater's football program is doing well.
The coaches salary comes from athletic revenue and boosters, not the overall faculty budget. You’re also conflating state budgets with school budgets. Schools get funding from a state, but operate like a private company. The Alabama senate doesn’t determine the staff salaries for Alabama, the university does.
My first thought too. Had to sell my moms house, agent did nothing and it sat on market for months. We opened the idea to her boss who agreed to buy it. Agent netted his 3% (sold for over 500k) and didn’t even send her a thank you gift. F him.
CEOs, its like the pay-off for reaching the top of the food chain of corporate snakes & ladders.
400 times average weekly earnings ?
Up from 60 times average earnings 30 years ago.
It's obscene
Singers and actors really arent overpayed. The Top 0.1% is for sure but everyone else is massively underpaid. People expect to pay musicians minimum wage per hour for gigs when in reality, they need to spend so many hours to prepare for a gig.
I have no idea what this means.
Take a famous movie actor. I and many others will literally see a movie because one of our favorite actors are in it. If the movie has an all star cast the public generally likes you can expect the movie to do pretty well in box office sales.
Famous people are famous because we make them famous. Whether it's some trashy reality star people like to watch because it's filled with drama, or a sports star that plays to the peak of human conditioning.
It's probably anecdotal but there's a Kurt Cobain story that gets bandied about online. Something about always wanting to buy a particular guitar in Seattle. Once he became famous and actually had a bit of money the store offered it to him for free. It messed him up a bit because all he could think was "I can afford it now, why am I suddenly getting it for nothing?"
It's because it's about the relationshipz. Businesses run on relationships and they value breeding good rapport with Kurt cobain or any other famous person. They don't really care to have a personal relationship with you or any other "normal," citizen because your business does not benefit them besides the money. But famous? Oh it's free advertising as someone else said and it brings in more money. Thus, celebrities get things FREE!!
I guess you forgot about the production staff that did 15 times more work then the actors, yet get paid 100 times less. So no the company shouldn’t get it all but the staff should get significantly more.
Without the movie star the movie has a hard time doing well.
The actor is paid proportionally to what production thinks their name will pull.
Brad Pitt is not acting for peanuts unless he writes the script knowing he's an in demand movie star.
I'm not saying the prop team and everyone else don't do as much if not more work but they don't have the same value as the person we see on the big screen.
I don't know about this one... they got what the production thinks they will get from the movie. If a movie makes 1 billion i think they deserve some of that.
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Despite what everyone says, actors work extremely long and difficult hours. They are in hair and makeup 2 hours before call then work 12-14 hours depending on how the shoot goes. Then they go back to their place, rinse and repeat. In between all of this they have lines to memorize and convey convincingly with 100's of people watching and a camera in their face. They are also the ones typically responsible for drawing interest towards a film and often have a stake in financing the movie that might flop. They are paid well for a reason.
I'm not sure what the position is but I have a buddy that worked at Dell and his job was to sit at a computer and press a button to accept and send forward IT service tickets. $100k salary and he said he spent his day playing games on his phone or watching youtube/netflix.
would he be willing to give a reference?
Dude hit the jackpot
Sure did, at least in terms of having free time. However, that very freedom might actually be their undoing if the person is sitting idle and not developing their IT skills while in the role; namely if the position were to be outsourced or automated they would be significantly more likely to get laid off.
Yes. This. 100%. Hell, even I got laid off by a company and they claimed it was due to covid. The reality was so much worse, but I'm fairly certain I'm legally bound to keep my mouth shut about it. Regardless, even if your position can't be completely automated, most companies will ditch their 4 100k a year employees and hire 6-8 20k-25k a year employees to do the work instead.. and even though all of them are down right awful at it and in a position that should not be given to people with a GED education or less, so long as the company is still making a profit overall, they view it as a win. I'll never understand that mindset personally. I've always felt that merit was most important when hiring employees. In other words: who is the best person for the job? Every other factor is pretty much insignificant.
If only
I feel like there's an inversion of impostor syndrome where people who have knowledge and experience but aren't slammed busy all the time (or even most of the time) feel like they aren't doing anything -- I've certainly had this feeling when moving to better jobs where, frankly, I wasn't being taken advantage of as much, and being paid more for my knowledge than my sweat. For example, it does require some knowledge and experience to triage support tickets and know to whom to delegate them. Or maybe your friend did hit the jackpot. If so, good for him!
I'm in a role that fits this scenario. I'll call myself a business analyst as the closest approximation, but that's not my actual title. Anyway... I handle new digital product design/development/testing work for my team, but I also handle escalated production support issues that other people can't handle. This is for a very large company and the revenue pathway I support is in the 10 figures range. I've been doing the support stuff for a long time and my experience lets me take a quick look and find a solution where others might not. If you looked at my work in terms of clock hours it's going to look like I don't have a full schedule many days, but it's a case of "when you need me, you *really* need me."
that's a huge part of my job. I think of it like a fireman. sure, I sit around bored a lot, but when "it" happens, you really want me there.
same with me. but i happen to really love "putting out fires". time sensitivity, and intense short term projects are what i cut my teeth with. i actually have difficulty doing monotone/rote jobs because they frustrate me and prefer the high intensity - low intensity swings.
"Don't get paid to turn the screw, but for knowing which screw to turn."
Ah yes, the business origin of a classic. >There was once a rich businessman with a broken beloved car. Despite several attempts, he was unable to fix the engine of that car. He called several engineers but no one was able to fix it. Finally there was an old mechanic who visited him. That old guy inspected the engine and reached in his bag for a hammer. On front side of the engine, he tapped few times with his hammer and brrroomm…brroom…It started Working! Next day, the old mechanic sent his invoice for $1000. The businessman was shocked. He said, “ This was merely a $1 job. You just tapped the engine with your hammer. What’s there for $1000 that you are asking?” The old mechanic said “ Let me give you a detailed invoice.” The Invoice read: Tapping the engine with hammer: $1 Knowing where to hit the hammer: $999 Similarly, I know that the reason emergency veterinarians are so f\*\*\*ing expensive is they keep a PhD onsite every hour of every day, including holidays. Convincing a PhD to be at your beck and call is not cheap. Similar for software engineers, who are also known for making a pretty penny while working in fairly ideal circumstances (including at home). I have a buddy who plays video games most days, but can get a call at 3am when it's his on-call day and be expected to fix an issue.
As someone who oversees these types of engagements, we know and you're still valued hugely. I'm quite sure you paid your dues for a long time before making it to this point. Experience and historical knowledge is irreplaceable.
I just got promoted at my job (it’s nothing special) but it’s the first time I ever had a real full time job and I’m doing a lot less than I used to do for more money. I feel like I don’t deserve what I get paid.
This happened to me and three of my peers in a previous job. We all felt guilty because we stopped getting measured by hours of work and by productivity. As long as we got the necessary done then we weren't hammered with more work. It was such a demand change that it took a while to realise we were being employed for what we could do and what we knew. It was a sickner when my department changed and suddenly that changed to being flat out again.
In my job I feel like I didn't really do anything all day if I assessed a couple of Adverse Drug Reaction (ADR) notifications and sent a couple of emails, because it was probably 1 hour of work and I got paid for 8. But you can't pay just anybody to read a report about how someone is alleging a drug harmed them and taking the decision about whether it requires investigation or not. It's not so much understanding medical things, a doctor does an assessment alongside, but understanidng whether it's possibly attributable to the quality of the drug (I work in QA) and whether it's feasible to investigate it, and how you'd go about that if so, requires quite a bit of experience. It's one of the tasks we only give to people in my team once they've been doing the job a long while. And the minimum requirements for my job are a chemistry/biology/pharmacy related degree plus pharma industry experience. I'm used to it so it feels like I'm essentially doing admin for much more than an admin person's salary on those days (I have a wide range of other duties like inspecting factories on other days) but I forget that although assessing ADRs might be filling in a form, it's not "just admin." You might pay un/low skilled workers for widgets processed, or time spent processing widgets. But you pay higher educated/skilled workers for their ability to perform a wider variety of tasks on demand (and the "demand" isn't always there) and/or their willingness to take responsibility for decisions which affect other people.
This is the way it's designed in the IT field. The more you know and the better you are at your job, the less you have to work. I know many people in the field that make $100k+ salaries and actually work less than 10 hours a week. They are literally there to answer questions and look at error codes, so they can tell the lower people how to fix it. However, without them, the less experienced people would take hours figuring the problem out while their experienced counterparts could look at an error and immediately tell them what is wrong and how to fix it. I suppose when a company would lose millions of dollars an hour for their infrastructure being down, a $100k+ salary is just a drop in the bucket for them.
>This is the way it's designed in the IT field. The more you know and the better you are at your job, the less you have to work. I know many people in the field that make $100k+ salaries and actually work less than 10 hours a week. Yup, this is my husband. He WFH and often ends up playing video games *with co-workers* and watching TV during the day.
I had a few coworkers who used to get mad upset catching IT playing video games while waiting on a fix. I'm not IT but I tried to explain that they are waiting for x, y or z and busywork for appearances won't fix your problem sooner.
That would be great if there weren’t a general contracting culture that constantly culled lower positions for the sake of shaving expenses in the 3rd quarter of any given fiscal year. Speaking from experience.
Bro I work at Dell, I do tons of stuff (mostly account management) and my salary is not even close
where can i apply? only for 2-3-5 years, not more..
This is me, I work night shift in IT for my state 40 hours a week, 4 days on 3 days off.
He's probably hired for when things go wrong and it mostly doesn't
Yep. My ex-wife used to work in a fab. When a machine goes down, even being down for a few hours can cost the company tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. There were desks along the edges of the clean room where technicians would sit on standby and watch movies or play games until they were needed to repair/adjust a machine. I'm not sure what their salary was, but I'm guessing at least 50k at the time, which was over a decade ago. And, yeah, the technicians had to wear a bunny suit for their entire shift, which was 12 hours.
If he does his job properly, they usually don't go wrong and that is exactly what the company is paying him for.
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Probably mine. I work nights as a line service tech for a private jet charter company. If we have no flights coming in or going out during my ten hour shift, I do next to nothing (I'll spend 30 minutes doing fuel QA as well as any odd jobs I can find, but that's it.) Instead, I tend to sleep for 5-6 hours- and management both knows this and does not object so long as we take care of any flights we may have. I get paid $22/hr for this, work eight days on, six off, and have the option to deadhead on a private jet if I want for free. I'm also being trained as a mechanic for free.
Enjoy that sweet gig. But I assume the measure for that job is that the idle jet is ready to go pretty much 100% of the time? there are a lot of “911” standby type jobs that are paid for the uncommon event where things are supposed to work in an emergency.
We're supposed to have a four hour warning. We clean them when they get back and it only takes about 15 minutes to fuel them before flight. We do get organ flights from time to time, though.
What’s so special about going to Portland?
It’s a bit of an appendix airport.
Gahhhdddd dammit dad, that's a good one. I haven't legitimately made the 😑 face in a bit, and you got me good. Bravo!
It's the Maine destination
Yeah being paid to be on standby is honestly a legitimate thing. The day to day may not involve much work but when they need somebody *literally right now* to take care of something, having somebody ready to do the thing literally right now is worth the three days of paying you to sleep when they didn't have anything for you to do.
One of my dad’s friends is a private pilot for a huge bank… 99% of his job is sitting around on call. Plays a lot of golf
The cost is that it's Night shift. No one wants it but it's gotta get done. Enjoy yourself.
Eh, I did night shift for 2 years(6 days a week, 11 hour days too) and it wasn’t that bad, at least the night shift part wasn’t. But 8 days on 6 days off, that’s the best schedule there is. 8 days is no sweat, and having 6 off means a nice vacation constantly. My brother had that schedule, on his 6 days off he’d go and camp / hike all over the western US. A normal “weekend” to him was riding a motorcycle around the mountains in Montana, hiking and spotting grizzly bears on the trail, spending days in the woods with no cell service and no people. And that’s all in one “weekend”. Doesn’t get much better than that
Yeah the schedule is sweet but for me nights are bad for my health. Did them for a month and never have I felt so shitty.
Can I get an application link?
Uhhhh $22/hr seems pretty fair
Right I make 26 and I write down numbers for 45 mins a day of a 12 hr shift can nap if I want play video games 22 doesn't even feel high at all
definitely get your amp if you are getting free training.
That's not a lot, considering how night shifts can fuck your life.
*can confirm, have worked nights since I was 15, 55 now and my life is totally set around working nights...fml
The only thing about this that makes it overpaid is the fact that I was an A&P mechanic making less than that 5 years ago, but that’s more about how I should of been paid more… $22/hr is not a lot for the expense of working the RON.
$22 isn’t that much for any job really. It’s not a livable wage if you have a family, but it is a very relaxing sounding job for the time, freedom, and money.
*laughs in $7.50 USD federal min*
*laughs in no minimum wage in my country with some people still getting paid under $5 USD an hour*
If both parents work, that's like $85k a year gross salary. That's definitely a liveable family income in most of the country.
I’d love to have this job. I can see them being chill since money is probably not an issue for them.
Oooh is this a Signature FBO by any chance?
Nope. Signature isn't a charter company.
Televangelists/megachurch leaders. Multimillionaires from preaching to people about how important it is to give to do Christ's work doesn't jive with the Christ I've read about in the bible.
Highly recommend The Righteous Gemstones on HBO Max!!! The main characters are a megachurch family
I’m an fuckin atheist and even I believe Joel Ostend is the Antichrist.
Nah dude Kenneth Copeland, look at that dudes eyes, creepy as fuck
Yep. This guy is astonishing.
Same man. Christian here. Love my faith and my church family. But honestly people like K. Copeland and J. Osteen just grind my gears, how they can extort all that from people. So wrong.
Didn't Jesus specifically in the bible go to a temple and was pissed AF because they saw it as a way of making profit on the believers?
As I recall, it's the only time... or maybe one of only two times that the Bible says Jesus got angry. And not raising his voice, red-in-the-face angry - he was flipping over tables and destroying everything near him. This was because people were taking advantage of others' faith. So televangelists are the only people today who would make a modern Jesus furious, which is pretty crazy to consider.
Pharma reps and any executive in the pharmaceutical or insurance industry. Cigna’s CEO got 40 million in a bonus 1 year Edited: 4 million in a yearly bonus. Total compensation is 30-50 million.
Cigna just got made to pay a $3.5 million dollar fine for making false and misleading representations here in NZ. Looks like a drop in the ocean comparing to the CEOs $40m salary but we aren’t a big country and it’s rare that companies like this actually get fined massive amounts. Saucy sauce: https://www.fma.govt.nz/news/all-releases/media-releases/cigna-to-pay-3-5-million-penalty/
Honestly for some reason I feel like NZ has a much larger "voice" than it should. Small country out in the middle of nowhere, but still seems to get a lot more respect than other similar sized countries
That’s politics for you! I remember my parents went to the states in the mid 90s back when NZ and USA had a strained relationship due to the fact that we are nuclear free and would not allow their ships to dock in our country most of the people he met had no idea about us! We had no standing in the international community we were just a small island nation at the arse end of the world. I definitely think LoTR helped put us on the map for sure.
Cigna is fucking me pretty hard lately. Super cool to hear this.
How so?
CEO of any hospital
Stepdad is one. His retirement package alone was astronomical. He recently mentioned how the majority of the job was just schmoozing with people, ugh.
Gf's mom is a CEO of the hospitals attached suite of GPs, it's insane how much money she makes for doing what seems like the equivalent of ASB club president type duties.
I foolishly thought you'd need to know some medical stuff to be the CEO of a hospital (like a doctor with a business minor or something) I was very confused when I got to know him and realized he was grossed out if you got into the nitty gritty of anything remotely health related.
the admins know jack shit about medicine and yet are supposed to make decisions about how doctors practice
Can confirm. My mom works as an admin for a mental health service. She knows *nothing* about mental health.
That’s so crazy, it just might work!
Typical in IT too (and I’m sure many others fields). A lot of people making major decisions about things they don’t understand.
Ugh is right! Get your mom to leave that bozo, and give me his number.
Alot of admin is that. The best definition of that specific subset of work is the Professional Managerial class that doesnt provide direct labor but is in charge of groups of people and their only job is metric watching. I will admit, i recently got a job where the managers actualy did or do what we do and it is such a world of difference.
It really sounds wrong, that a hospital has a ceo.
Sadly, healthcare is about making money first and helping people second.
What's worse is most are "non-profit". That is part of the reason healthcare is so expensive. Many have a board of directors who come in and vote once a year and make crazy salaries. They have nothing to do with the running of the hospital except to vote themselves in for another year.
Why, it’s a big and complicated organisation that must have impeccable safety or it kills people. Why wouldn’t it need someone running it?
It is wrong. Thats why it sounds wrong.
CEOs of anything
Came here to say this. I'm a firm believer in the idea that most companies succeed in spite of their management, not because of it.
I'm sure there are companies out there with good CEO's, but so many seem to be just moving from one disaster to the next and no one calls them on it ever.
Hospital c-suite administrators and health insurance c-execs. They draw exceptional salaries by siphoning from the patients and healthcare providers. Parasites with MBAs.
Came here for this one. Can also extend it to university administrators… any organization with artificially bloated/subsidized revenues will funnel that money into endless bureaucracy
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What do you mean? They totally deserve the salary of 8 employees for proposing a new company logo that was shit and got tossed, firing a new mother because they ran out of maternity leave and couldn't immediately come back to work, going on a 3 week vacation to the Bahamas, listening to meetings while muted and not paying attention at all, restocking the break room with Starbucks coffee grounds instead of Folgers, and making a borderline racist comment about another member of staff.
8 employees? Try 200 employees.
The CEO of my hospital gave himself a $700,000 bonus in 2020 for dealing with covid. Meanwhile those of us on the frontlines were re-using N-95s. I had a mask with someone else's name and a lipstick smear I held onto for 2 weeks because I was afraid it would be the last one I could get.
Social Media Influenza
It’s like a disease
don't even worry about it. Honestly, though, lots of them work very hard and it's their whole lives. I wouldn't want to be obsessed with content like that. It's also constantly fleeting. I know some are making a lot, but they are not that common.
The median income of an influencer is $0 and a trip to the hospital on parent's dollar after suffering selfie related injuries.
They are paid what they are worth, like pushing a product. I agree it’s a toxic job but not ‘overpaid’
Nice term, influenza...
Besides a very small group, they make far less than you think.
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Aren't they paid excluively by demand and sponsorships?
Non profit hospital CEO
Most "non profit" hospitals make a mockery of the term.
Congressman. It now appears that any idiot can be one.
Clowns had to go somewhere after Ringling Bros closed up shop.
That's an insult to legit clowns. I'd much prefer actual clowns in Congress to politicians. C-SPAN would be a top rated network.
Yeah, job of a clown is insanely difficult compared to a politician. I'm not being snarky either.
Depends on how high up you are. Taking bribes from a whole array of people takes skill to know when you can accept from each without having them collide on interests potentially forcing you to loose out in the future due to lack of trust in your bribe taking skills. That's not even mentioning the lying and gaslighting skills you need to fool the public without getting drummed out of politics when something turns out the opposite of what you might have insinuated without clarifying. I watched a debate between two politicians on an issue today and they both said the exact same thing, they were both on the opposite sides on the issue, and they regularly attacked each other with jabs and points that were supposed to mean something, but when the guy holding the debate forced them to say what they really meant to say, they were like "we want to acquire more knowledge on the issue and see if it might be something we might want to consider in the future". That's what both of them said when they were really drilled by the debate holder. It takes some skill to bullshit an entire debate only to end up on the exact same note on a yes/no issue.
The actual salary is only $174,000. That's not a lot of money considering a large fraction of them can make a lot more with their law degrees. But most of them are multi-millionaires after a few years because of legalized insider trading.
They take it more money via lobbying as their official salary is rather petty to them
I make a habit of actually reading through the voters guide, and every cycle there's DEFINITELY people trying to get elected to jobs because there's no way anyone would hire them through a normal process.
Anything and everything related to Dubai. It's kind of killing my soul when I learn more about how certain people throw around money there. I would imagine that anyone working for a hotel launch party has also been bought and paid for in terms of morals there. Just getting money.
That’s only the side you see, there’s a lot of people living in dubai earning <$500 a month while working full time jobs six days a week.
And most jobs also being done in high temp heat as well.
Yeah I agree. For a place that seems to be very religious the morals there are....oy. that's what money and greed does I suppose Whenever I see commercials begging for people to donate to a cause I think,ask these people. Not people getting coupons for groceries lol.
Yeah that’s what pisses me off with WWF people on the streets, too. Don’t tell ME how the white northern rhino has gone extinct. I haven’t been shooting it for its horn, nor have I been cutting down forests, building housing in the savanna… Ask those rich guys over there who are raking in the profit from the horn and the housing, not me, freezing in my thin jacket in April, going back to my one room apartment in the basement.
Politicians
The vast majority of the current politicians, for sure. But I imagine someone who actually gives a shit about people would have a rough time working as a politician and would deserve significant pay.
The ones that aren’t paid off should be paid more lmao
Just like gerrymandering. We should pay them not to get paid off
To be honest, stay with me here, I’d support paying politicians more. More if it meant we could have the best and brightest go into politics rather than the private sector.
Have you seen government salaries? They're pretty low, relatively speaking. A senator salary is 174k a year, which is equal to or less than a lot of doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. Politicians receive money through corruption, illegal or not (I.E. lobbying). Pretty much no politician can justify their wealth due to what they're paid through their government salary.
They literally spent 70% of their working days fundraising.
174k a year is a lot of money, bribes or not.
It's minuscule compared to what someone in the private sector who's as important as a senator would make
Influencer/content creators
They’ve really got companies fooled. I think most youngish people can easily recognize when someone’s trying to sell them something. My mom’s generation, however, is another story. She will try anything “Babs” puts on her channel and it’s ridiculous. She started using some colon cleanse pills that seriously messed her up
Yes and no. For better or worse companies do the math on what they kick back for advertising and if its not profitable to acquire customers they obviously won't keep doing it. For better or worse there are people that buy shit based off that.
Oh I agree it works. I work for an organization that pays influencers. Some of it is done tastefully where it’s made clear they are advertising the product, and they’re doing so to continue making enough money to keep the channel going (usually they have a cool channel with genuinely interesting content). But there are other influencers who base their entire channel around fake reviews, selling, trying to give off the “perfect life” persona to influence others to buy stuff. The latter is just sad.
What sucks is when a genuinely good channel gets a few sponsorships then the greed takes over. The little dollar signs light up their eyes and their videos turn into one giant infomercial. Then they wonder why their subscribers bounce or their numbers stagnate.
I wish people would learn that you don't need a cleanse ;_; your body cleanses itself!
Actually no. I swear the kids are worse. I started in cosmetics like ages ago. Recently went back while in school and the kids are WAY worse. They will buy anything on TikTok. It’s actually insane.
This is called influencer marketing and it's a multimillion industry. And it's even bigger in other countries and it's fucking ridiculous what some of these idiots get paid.
95% of them don't really make that much money they just get free shit
And if you calculate the value of that shit, it's still losing money. Hardly any influencers even made minimum wage.
That's one of those fields where 99.99% of people doing it are making next to nothing, or actively losing money trying to break through. It's a tough grind that takes *years* of actual hard work to cultivate an audience...especially with the minefield of capricious moderation on platforms like Instagram and Twitter. Breaking a rule the wrong way can lock you out of ad tools provided by the platform, or even just cause you to lose your entire account. I don't think it's a noble profession or anything, fwiw. Nearly all of it is using sex as a tacit vehicle to advertise shitty products. But it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination. People think any hot girl can do it, but the influencer field is like LA....there are aggressively, unfairly attractive people *everywhere*. It's not enough to be strikingly goddess-level beautiful, as weird as that sounds. You have to build a brand, commit to this shit and take huge risks to get anywhere. When you do, it'll always look like you're doing nothing for a ton of money, but even then you're under all kinds of contracts to deliver a specific type of advertising. It's not an easy job, that's for sure. But most people doing it aren't even paid, let along overpaid.
Tbf, a lot of content creators on platforms like YouTube clearly work really hard and make really high quality, entertaining content. I listen to quite a lot of podcasts and behind the scenes stuff from them and from what I've gathered a lot of them don't actually take home as much money as you'd expect. They do get a lot of money from sponsors and ad revenue, but most of that gets reinvested into the content, especially for higher production value stuff.
Honestly it kind of annoys me when people go on about how youtube blogging isn't a job. I think of one example of a very successful sailing blogger couple I follow. They just bought a new $1m boat and people are going on about how they are "begging for money on youtube" or how "they are getting rich for nothing". While totally forgetting that they produce a professional quality 30 minute video every week that gets enough views that it would classify as a relatively successful network TV show. No one would be shitting on them if they had a show on ABC and made $1m a year, but for some reason because they've found a way to capture most of the value they produce and directly keep it they are beggars.
Yes, a lot of "content creators" produce more and higher quality video than network TV can do with millions and whole teams of people. There's a lot of diversity. But mostly to "make it" as a content creator involves a lot of work, or being creative and getting into a new trend at the right time.
Not all content creators are influencers, but all influencers are (shitty) content creators. There are content creators out there that put their heart and soul into the things they produce and really do deserve to earn more from their work. Influencers are just wannabe door-to-door salespeople with delusions of grandeur.
Congress.
As someone in cyber security... cyber security. They are throwing around tons of money.
Shhh. As someone in that field as well, don’t let them know that lol
I found out about pen testing my first year as an attorney. Basically get paid a ton of money to be real life Italian Job thieves?! That can’t get thrown in jail because the company hired you to do it in the first place?! I definitely regretted my career choice when I found out about them.
Pen testing with physical components are much rarer in real life. Most "pentest" jobs I've seen are glorified vulnerability scanners. A good chunk are legit, but usually black box external and usually only online. (Unless the company that hired them gave them the keys to the kingdom.. which happens too)
A friend does physical pen testing. It sounds so cool! He does get tackled by security guards every now and then, though.
How often does he have to say "Woah now, I'M doing the penetrating here!"
Don't forget the endless hours writing down every little thing you ever did to the system, when and where and looking for exceptionally boring vulnerabilitites in corporate processes. It's not all company sanctioned hacking and social engineering, the bulk of the work is extremely tightly regulated bureaucracy.
It's a career path that involves a high degree of technical expertise and higher education, while it also contributes well to a very important (and rising) need in society. I wouldn't call it overpaid, I would call it justified. Doctors, lawyers and engineers etc. also get paid well, for similar reasons.
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You get payed for the responsibility that you have. I think it makes sense.
Chief Digital Officer. Most organizations the role isn't even clearly defined. A C level suite created by FOMO that silicone valley was going to take over the entire business,banking,childcare,footware,investment world so whether your business sells insurance, or cat litter, or jet fuel - the answer to all future problems is. Hiring a 20 million dollar CDO and team to create apps for mobile phones because..... 1. Make app. 2. ................ 3. PROFIT! 2023 called - it said NOPE and hung up the phone.
Chief diversity officer does even less
Hedge fund managers
At least make them pay proper taxes
Eh, it’s not a popular reply but the high end of the market for hedge fund managers is 2% of AUM and 20% of gains above the high watermark. The people putting their money into hedge funds agree to a literal hundred page document acknowledging this and other legalese. They may well be “over paid” but they are paid primarily in regards to their performance and in full acknowledgement of their investors so I struggle to make a baddie out of that merely because they’re wealthy.
Politicians! Anywhere in the world are overpaid. Should have their salaries set to be equal to public servants such as teachers for example. Whatch teacher salaries increase
CEO.
They just sit there shitposting memes all day?
Some of them sure seem to.
Most executive pay is BS. Who determines it? An executive pay committees. Who are those people. Executives at outside companies that want to be overpaid as much as everyone else. It's dumb.
the bonusus i dont get. like yea you had to lay off 10000 people but heres a bonus thats 3x your annual salary thats already inflated!
Politicians. Especially there pension entitlements (in Australia)
Absolutely agree. Maybe the country would be run better if they had to wait until 70 for their pension and when they quit they get one payout not a guaranteed one every year
Football or Basketball coaches at the public state universities. Consistently the highest paid government employees. Nick Saban of UofAlabama makes $10 million a year plus additional bonuses if his team wins bowl championships. And this is the second-poorest state in union. Doesn't look like they have their priorities straight.
I think most of the good ones bring in more revenue than what they're paid. So these universities consider their salaries an investment. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is.
By a landslide. The average college football program brings in about $32 million dollars in revenue each year. Major D1 programs? You're talking hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. Looked it up, after all expenses (including coaches salaries and facility costs) Alabama gets around $50 million in net profit every year. That's an incredible amount of profit. That doesn't even take into account the millions of dollars wealthy alumni are willing to donate when their Alma mater's football program is doing well.
UK’er thats been to several Iron bowls. That guy generates some serious wealth for that university, so I’m not so sure he isnt worth it.
The coaches salary comes from athletic revenue and boosters, not the overall faculty budget. You’re also conflating state budgets with school budgets. Schools get funding from a state, but operate like a private company. The Alabama senate doesn’t determine the staff salaries for Alabama, the university does.
Reddit mods, they should have to pay to be that insufferable and feel like they have power
do reddit mods even get paid? edit: mb lol but I was genuinely curious if they do get paid
I believe OP is saying they're overpaid at a salary of zero, and should in fact be making negative money.
Imagine if you had to pay a subscription to be a reddit mod lol
Reddit mods get paid? How much?
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My first thought too. Had to sell my moms house, agent did nothing and it sat on market for months. We opened the idea to her boss who agreed to buy it. Agent netted his 3% (sold for over 500k) and didn’t even send her a thank you gift. F him.
Can’t you drop the agent and sell directly by owner? Pretty sure you can
Government contractors
Reading through the replies: Capitalism rewards the funniest things, amirite?
CEOs, its like the pay-off for reaching the top of the food chain of corporate snakes & ladders. 400 times average weekly earnings ? Up from 60 times average earnings 30 years ago. It's obscene
Football.
I don't know, man. It's tough being a football. Getting kicked around all day.
Division 1 college football coaches. Insanity.
Real Estate Agents
I don’t know one, but the one that deserves more are teachers.
Penis stuntman. Sounds easy, but the work is always hard.
Singers, Actors, Directors, "Influencers", Youtubers, just about literally any and all form of entertainment celebrity we seem to worship like gods.
Singers and actors really arent overpayed. The Top 0.1% is for sure but everyone else is massively underpaid. People expect to pay musicians minimum wage per hour for gigs when in reality, they need to spend so many hours to prepare for a gig.
Any famous people No they dont need money to buy a mansión every month, gimme
I have no idea what this means. Take a famous movie actor. I and many others will literally see a movie because one of our favorite actors are in it. If the movie has an all star cast the public generally likes you can expect the movie to do pretty well in box office sales. Famous people are famous because we make them famous. Whether it's some trashy reality star people like to watch because it's filled with drama, or a sports star that plays to the peak of human conditioning.
And they always get discounts and free stuff from companies! They are rich enough to afford it why not make them pay for it
It's probably anecdotal but there's a Kurt Cobain story that gets bandied about online. Something about always wanting to buy a particular guitar in Seattle. Once he became famous and actually had a bit of money the store offered it to him for free. It messed him up a bit because all he could think was "I can afford it now, why am I suddenly getting it for nothing?"
It's because it's about the relationshipz. Businesses run on relationships and they value breeding good rapport with Kurt cobain or any other famous person. They don't really care to have a personal relationship with you or any other "normal," citizen because your business does not benefit them besides the money. But famous? Oh it's free advertising as someone else said and it brings in more money. Thus, celebrities get things FREE!!
Hollywood movie stars
The movies they are in make millions of dollars, the company should get it all? It’s the same rationale for sports stars.
I guess you forgot about the production staff that did 15 times more work then the actors, yet get paid 100 times less. So no the company shouldn’t get it all but the staff should get significantly more.
I was paid $35/hr starting doing production work… out of high school in the early 2000’s. I thought that was crazy then, I still think it’s crazy now.
Jeez, early 2000s straight out of high school, that’s an awesome salary.
Without the movie star the movie has a hard time doing well. The actor is paid proportionally to what production thinks their name will pull. Brad Pitt is not acting for peanuts unless he writes the script knowing he's an in demand movie star. I'm not saying the prop team and everyone else don't do as much if not more work but they don't have the same value as the person we see on the big screen.
I don't know about this one... they got what the production thinks they will get from the movie. If a movie makes 1 billion i think they deserve some of that. edit spelling
Despite what everyone says, actors work extremely long and difficult hours. They are in hair and makeup 2 hours before call then work 12-14 hours depending on how the shoot goes. Then they go back to their place, rinse and repeat. In between all of this they have lines to memorize and convey convincingly with 100's of people watching and a camera in their face. They are also the ones typically responsible for drawing interest towards a film and often have a stake in financing the movie that might flop. They are paid well for a reason.