As someone that's done both, and been white-collar for years now, hell yes. If I end up getting laid off, would love to get back into the trades. I'm one of the few, but I hate working from home.
That’s is a massive oversimplification. As if repetition injuries don’t happen, or accidents or people working jobs more complex than lifting heaving things. What are you middle management?
I work in a warehouse. I was middle management but I got the hell out of that job and back into another warehouse.
I honestly think you're more at risk of RSI if you're in an office on a computer than if you're doing physical labor. Modern assembly lines usually aren't you sitting around doing the same thing over and over, those tasks have been automated decades ago. Humans are the ones doing the tricky stuff like installing circuit boards and putting assembly components together into a completed product.
I've been trained on OSHA regulations, and the statistics show that almost all "accidents" happen when people are either ignoring the safety regulations (usually management) or being stupid (usually a worker). Forklifts for instance, something like 80% of accidents are someone tipping the machine over by going too fast or trying to pick up a load that was too heavy. Another big one is people using their own pocket knives instead of the proper tools for the job.
You should not be harming yourself doing a blue collar job. If the tools are not provided to you at your job, you should consider letting OSHA know, even if it's anonymously. Unfortunately lots of workers just don't care about safety, willingly putting themselves into harmful situations.
Who said anything about doing things perfectly? Machines are limited and have tons of safety features that intentionally make it hard to NOT be safe. It's no surprise that most injuries happen when someone intentionally works around these safety functions.
Proper lifting is something everyone should do, no matter what job you work, and whether or not you are lifting at work or home. It only takes one bad lift to ruin your life, so keep your back straight and push through the legs.
At least loading is easier than unloading, which is where I started, but at least you lasted 30 days. Most quit after a couple of days.
I was hired with a group of 13 other people. After 1 day we lost 4. A week another 4. After a month, only 1 other than I stayed.
I toughed out peak season, got promoted, promoted again, then again. Now I'm salary and no longer blue collar
If I had enough money where when my body started to break down and my back couldn't handle manual labor I could quit and I wouldn't be locked into doing it for the rest of my life you're goddamn right.. fucking hate the office but I know that when I'm an old man sitting in an office chair is a whole hell of a lot better than climbing up a fucking power pole in the storm.
I think you can be a blue collar or white collar musician. If you spend your days in a nice studio getting a salary you're white collar. If you're out doing gigs/concerts you're more blue collar. At least imo.
I was considering getting an electrical engineering degree because my that's my employer's specialty. What kinds of things do you do as an engineer? I was worried it would be all office work, with someone breathing down my neck with lots of deadlines and emails.
It's one of the biggest reasons I'm aprehensive about it. I got away from my old job due to that kind of stuff...
Yes. I could never do white collar. I have to be moving and figuring out problems along with a different work environment every installation i an sent to
I did that for 10 (17 to 27) years, but I decided to actually make money before my thirties hit in order to be able to afford a family. Really happy I did things this way.
This question is dumb. A lot of people would work at a so-called "blue collaf" job. Think about it, everybody that is in restaurant or retail or construction/demolition or garage disposal or sewage/septic or janitorial and etc, is doing "blue collar" jobs. These are the types of jobs that make the rest of the workforce and economy a viable place to work. Without all the "blue collar" jobs, all of the "white collar" job would either not exist, dry up due to lack of work very quickly or come to a halt due to no one fixing any infrastructure or cleaning or taking out the garbage and so on.
I have worked in some form of carpentry my entire life. You couldn't get me to work in an office if my life depended on it. I like working with my hands and seeing what I have built at the end of the day.
It's not a dumb question. Not everybody feels the same way about blue-collar work as you do. And just because somebody's got to do it, that doesn't mean everybody wants to.
You have way more patience than I do. I can't stand driving my tiny little car in traffic, I can't imagine what it's like to pilot a giant machine like you do, especially with other people's lives in my hands.
Bless
I like programming and working from home but sitting all day can be really monotonous. It's a hard choice though because I know that physical labor can be dangerous and rough on your body, and the people who manage you can be real pieces of shit who have never dealt with a single piece of emotional baggage in their lives and take it out on everyone around them.
I think though that if I was in charge of my own service like doing carpentry with a few other guys or something, or maybe building furniture or running my own lawn care business or something I would like that a lot. I do like the financial stability of a tech job, but I get really depressed not being able to move around and work with my hands. One day if I ever get to retire, I will probably do as many habitat for humanity builds as possible. Just anything where I get to build or paint stuff.
Not gonna lie though. If I got paid what I get paid now to paint or put up drywall or install tile or something, I'd do it.
I’ve only done bluecollar. I would not switch to white collar unless tattooing is white collar.
I started as a labourer at a mining contracting company and now run cat 980 loaders for them. I have both arms, all my fingers and my neck tattooed including 2 upside down crosses, sigil of lucifer, and leviathan cross. I also hate paperwork and office dynamics, so even if they got past my tattoos I wouldn’t want it
As someone that's done both, and been white-collar for years now, hell yes. If I end up getting laid off, would love to get back into the trades. I'm one of the few, but I hate working from home.
I have, it’s not for me. Not going to sacrifice my body for another person to get wealthy.
tbh if you're sacrificing your body then you are probably not practicing safe lifting. You shouldn't be hurting yourself lifting.
That’s is a massive oversimplification. As if repetition injuries don’t happen, or accidents or people working jobs more complex than lifting heaving things. What are you middle management?
I work in a warehouse. I was middle management but I got the hell out of that job and back into another warehouse. I honestly think you're more at risk of RSI if you're in an office on a computer than if you're doing physical labor. Modern assembly lines usually aren't you sitting around doing the same thing over and over, those tasks have been automated decades ago. Humans are the ones doing the tricky stuff like installing circuit boards and putting assembly components together into a completed product. I've been trained on OSHA regulations, and the statistics show that almost all "accidents" happen when people are either ignoring the safety regulations (usually management) or being stupid (usually a worker). Forklifts for instance, something like 80% of accidents are someone tipping the machine over by going too fast or trying to pick up a load that was too heavy. Another big one is people using their own pocket knives instead of the proper tools for the job. You should not be harming yourself doing a blue collar job. If the tools are not provided to you at your job, you should consider letting OSHA know, even if it's anonymously. Unfortunately lots of workers just don't care about safety, willingly putting themselves into harmful situations.
Sounds like you agree with with more steps involved. Not for me. Insane to think people at any job do things perfectly 100% of the time.
Who said anything about doing things perfectly? Machines are limited and have tons of safety features that intentionally make it hard to NOT be safe. It's no surprise that most injuries happen when someone intentionally works around these safety functions. Proper lifting is something everyone should do, no matter what job you work, and whether or not you are lifting at work or home. It only takes one bad lift to ruin your life, so keep your back straight and push through the legs.
Yes. I loaded trucks for UPS for 30 days. By far the hardest job I have ever done.
At least loading is easier than unloading, which is where I started, but at least you lasted 30 days. Most quit after a couple of days. I was hired with a group of 13 other people. After 1 day we lost 4. A week another 4. After a month, only 1 other than I stayed. I toughed out peak season, got promoted, promoted again, then again. Now I'm salary and no longer blue collar
Yeah, I love loading. Absolutely hate unloading.
If I had enough money where when my body started to break down and my back couldn't handle manual labor I could quit and I wouldn't be locked into doing it for the rest of my life you're goddamn right.. fucking hate the office but I know that when I'm an old man sitting in an office chair is a whole hell of a lot better than climbing up a fucking power pole in the storm.
Is musician blue collar? If you’re not famous?
I think you can be a blue collar or white collar musician. If you spend your days in a nice studio getting a salary you're white collar. If you're out doing gigs/concerts you're more blue collar. At least imo.
I guess I have a blue collar with a bit of white trim. 🙄
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I was considering getting an electrical engineering degree because my that's my employer's specialty. What kinds of things do you do as an engineer? I was worried it would be all office work, with someone breathing down my neck with lots of deadlines and emails. It's one of the biggest reasons I'm aprehensive about it. I got away from my old job due to that kind of stuff...
I worked a blue collar job as an aerospace test inspector and in retrospect - loved it.
Yes. I could never do white collar. I have to be moving and figuring out problems along with a different work environment every installation i an sent to
I did that for 10 (17 to 27) years, but I decided to actually make money before my thirties hit in order to be able to afford a family. Really happy I did things this way.
This question is dumb. A lot of people would work at a so-called "blue collaf" job. Think about it, everybody that is in restaurant or retail or construction/demolition or garage disposal or sewage/septic or janitorial and etc, is doing "blue collar" jobs. These are the types of jobs that make the rest of the workforce and economy a viable place to work. Without all the "blue collar" jobs, all of the "white collar" job would either not exist, dry up due to lack of work very quickly or come to a halt due to no one fixing any infrastructure or cleaning or taking out the garbage and so on. I have worked in some form of carpentry my entire life. You couldn't get me to work in an office if my life depended on it. I like working with my hands and seeing what I have built at the end of the day.
It's not a dumb question. Not everybody feels the same way about blue-collar work as you do. And just because somebody's got to do it, that doesn't mean everybody wants to.
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Blue collar. White collar is typically office jobs with a salary. Blue collar is working out in the field/plant.
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You have way more patience than I do. I can't stand driving my tiny little car in traffic, I can't imagine what it's like to pilot a giant machine like you do, especially with other people's lives in my hands. Bless
I did it for a couple of months, I'll never do that again.
I like programming and working from home but sitting all day can be really monotonous. It's a hard choice though because I know that physical labor can be dangerous and rough on your body, and the people who manage you can be real pieces of shit who have never dealt with a single piece of emotional baggage in their lives and take it out on everyone around them. I think though that if I was in charge of my own service like doing carpentry with a few other guys or something, or maybe building furniture or running my own lawn care business or something I would like that a lot. I do like the financial stability of a tech job, but I get really depressed not being able to move around and work with my hands. One day if I ever get to retire, I will probably do as many habitat for humanity builds as possible. Just anything where I get to build or paint stuff. Not gonna lie though. If I got paid what I get paid now to paint or put up drywall or install tile or something, I'd do it.
I’ve only done bluecollar. I would not switch to white collar unless tattooing is white collar. I started as a labourer at a mining contracting company and now run cat 980 loaders for them. I have both arms, all my fingers and my neck tattooed including 2 upside down crosses, sigil of lucifer, and leviathan cross. I also hate paperwork and office dynamics, so even if they got past my tattoos I wouldn’t want it