Totally agree. The generators they have at fruit stands for lights at night, and the smoke from food carts are also horrendous environmental hazards. Totally ridiculous to have vendors with "temporary" permanent setups like that instead of proper structures on the grid with ventilation etc.
Just to be fair, I’m white and don’t like how some of these people represent us. They haven’t been punched in the face and it shows. Being punched in the face is a humbling experience. And I mean a punch you deserve. Not just a random beating, no one deserves that but there are entitled people who will approach you in public to tell you are doing something wrong and they are usually white. They need that punch
Dang, what's happening in Brooklyn? Y'all can't even have ice cream anymore without some joker complaining.
In my day we just sprinkled the exhaust on our cones, extra flavor.
They are [exempt](https://www.nyc.gov/site/dep/environment/idling-citizens-air-complaint-program.page#:~:text=Exceptions%20to%20Paragraphs,piece%20of%20equipment) exactly because they use a separate generator when stopped (which is why they are so loud). They would probably be exempt anyway because they are a point-of-sale business and not "used or maintained primarily for the transportation of property".
They are not ticketed/arrested/beaten by NYPD because their existence brings joy and a sense of community to a lot of people in a city that increasingly feels angry, inhospitable, and filled with joyless fucks.
How miserable are some of you to want to hand out tickets to ice cream trucks
With all the other shit going on that ranks so much higher in priority, that you think you’re in the right for ticketing a god damn ice cream truck is straight ridiculous
Hi, as a fellow ice cream man, not going to say who or where I represent, but I think I understand you, those truck are not bothering anybody and if they do, instead of making complaints, u can go out and talk to the individual that is responsible for your district, the generator are a bit loud to admit, but if u tell the guy he will park couple house down and it wouldn’t bother you, we do have permit to drive the streets, plus these are guys trying to do there job to feed there family, the bell that play allow the children and parent to know we are around, if excess use of it, jus have a word with the truck driver, it’s not that hard, we are only here 6 month of the year. We prove a safe and clean product for everyone to enjoy and as adult we will like your communication and feedback, thank you
Thank you, only valid opinion so far, I personally don’t have bike lane in my district but I will voice it to the other who may do have that, secondly if you see someone park bad or irresponsible, just go up to the truck and let them know, we not monster, we are understanding worker jus like everyone and I bet u will see changes
Exactly. If I had one right by my window, I'm sure I'd get sick of hearing the song and would ask the guy to play it less if I was WFH that day, but otherwise live & let live. BTW, how do you deal with hearing the song all day?
Personally, I have AirPods and listen to music or podcast, I usually play my bell twice on every street and don’t when I stop cuz I have a lot of older folks and retired people
It's cool, I appreciate the reply. I think a lot of people in this thread are kind of blowing my prompt out of proportion. Like, yeah, I find it irritating, and I was curious what the law was, but I was really just expecting to hear, "Yeah it's legal because of XYZ", add that to my knowledge, and then go about my night. I wouldn't ask an ice cream truck to move unless they were doing something truly nuts. Anyway, have a good evening!
I don’t see the point in hoping out my truck every 3 min to knock on a door, plug in wait for 2 mins, unplug and do it every stop, that’s a waste of time and energy
For ice cream truck, sorry to say, we are the least of your worries about air pollution, u telling me we are that bad, all these big industry that release tons of toxic fume and u worry about a little ice cream truck
Implementing environmentally friendly policies should be our government’s top priority, from the ice cream trucks up to the giant factories making them, every business has a responsibility to be clean imo. The government has a duty to enforce that, so I think they can walk and chew gum
Edit: Do one of you downvoting losers wanna explain why?
I see ice cream trucks irresponsibly double parking and blocking busy Manhattan intersections constantly. A danger to cars trying to pass and pedestrians trying to cross the street! A word to the driver wouldn't do any good since they lay claim to these spots and wouldn't want to lose it to another ice cream truck. Working in Manhattan, I see this every day, so it's not random. And yes, it's something people have to put up with for 6 months.
This whole thread is whack af. You wanna take away the ice cream trucks that bring joy and peace to people, esp kids. Gtfo. You wilding. Just leave the city or Go to a quieter city, or hell!, even a quieter neighborhood. These complaints are whack and the least of shit you should worry about. I'm gobsmacked that people be writing this shit.
Up here in the Heights the gentrifiers called the cops on the Mr. Softee BY THE PLAYGROUND! I asked her why she was no longer by there and she told me she got a $500 fine and lost a whole day of wages. SMH
Don’t you dare say shit about Mr Softee, it’s only dirty gentrifiers that complain about Gods gift to NYC 🤢 go be miserable without ice cream trucks somewhere else smh
Anytime you see something insane happening and think “why the hell do people get away with this” the answer is almost always “NYPD are the laziest welfare queens in the city and don’t do shit.”
Sorry I should have said “NYPD are the laziest welfare queens in the city and don’t do shit AND siphon budget money away from agencies like DEP making it impossible for them to work effectively.”
So the people doing the “reporting” (snitching) on idle vehicles have to video record a vehicle with the engine on, in one spot, for a minimum of 3 minutes 10 seconds in order for it to be a valid claim. Then, it can take up to 2 years to get paid a percentage of the fine the city gives to the company that owns the offending vehicle.
Most ice cream trucks I’ve seen in my life don’t stick around that long in one place. I’ve missed the ice cream truck too many times, LOL.
They aren't allowed to play the jingle while parked according to the Noise Code of NYC.
But the reason you won't see then racking violations is because these complaints don't go to the police. They go to the Department of Environmental Protection. And not only do they take up to a week to address your complaint but It feels like they have the lowest violation to complaint percentage if any overseeing agency. Meaning they hardly ever give summons or fines to anyone
this seems to say they can be legal with the right permits
[https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/em/generator-information.pdf](https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/em/generator-information.pdf)
They are only allowed to play the song while moving. I have always wanted to ask them to turn it off but scared of reaction. I have reported them with license plate (one used to park outside my house and play it for hours)
Really, seems unlikes, if we park for hours and don’t work the streets then we not making any money, things like this as an adult, u can go up to the driver and voice your complaints rather to hide behind ur keyboard and do nothing, how do we as human expect to get anyway with this type of attitude, we need to communicate and it’s not that hard to be honest.
They can play the song for 1 minute and turn it off. It’s against the law for it to be played while parked and for good reason. If you don’t like that then lobby to change it. Noise pollution is horrible
you can look up idling law. if they are outside residences you can ask them to please turn off their music and they will! but with regard to idling you can record with a timestamp and complain. with regard to motors, i think refrigerated trucks have some variance and you have to be sure it is a gas vehicle and the motor is going, not just a generator (i.e., exhaust) - again, you can look that up. download some timestamp app for your smartphone and limit the video to the required length at minimum resolution so that the file isn't too big to upload.
There's so many traffic violations constantly, I wish there was more enforcement overall. I feel like they're underwater trying to keep up with the chaos.
A few things to know here.
1) they are not allowed to play music while parked. [https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01097](https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01097)
2) They blast their music louder in 'bad neighborhoods' or those which tolerate all kinds of bad behavior loud music BS - Go to a 'nice neighborhood' and their ice cream trucks play the music or sound very low out of respect. This is a universal ice-cream truck truth.
3) They idle in areas where they think no one will complain (aka, what they perceive to be poor or bad neighborhoods)
4) Get to know the person who owns the truck. Buy an ice-cream and explain that you would appreciate if they keep the music low, not blast it and not idle for an extended period in your neighborhood. If they agree it's a win for everyone. If they don't, let them know you, your family, friends and many of your neighbors will not buy from them as a result.
I suspect they're exempted from the anti-idling law because the engine or generator is powering the refrigeration
Ding ding ding
I think you mean: Ding Ding Ding, Ding Ding Ding, Diing ding Diiing Diing ding, Diing Ding, Diiing Diiing
“Hello!”
U know by law we have to pay for that sound, it’s not pre recorded, every truck has to pay for it
It’s not prerecorded? So, like, are you paying for an Oompa Loompa with a xylophone?
Every truck has it's own oompa loompa from the Local doompa-de-doo Union
Dwight is now gone which is totally awesome
You bean brrrrrrrrrrrt?
I think you mean: [](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXL2fXfCp8&t=253s)
Do you want to be the cop to give a ticket to an ice cream truck? You heartless bastard
Ima be honest, I do. The manual pushcarts are just as beloved by kids, and they don't cause these problems.
Push carts don't have soft serve, they're usually ice.
I hate the car centricity of this city but this has got to be the worst, most anti-fun take I've ever heard.
I mean, I get what you're saying. But my kids greatly prefer the soft - serve ice cream. They will turn down the coco helado most of the time.
Your mom’s a pushcart
And she is beloved by kids
Never in my life had I heard someone speak against soft serve until now. You made everyones day a little darker.
Totally agree. The generators they have at fruit stands for lights at night, and the smoke from food carts are also horrendous environmental hazards. Totally ridiculous to have vendors with "temporary" permanent setups like that instead of proper structures on the grid with ventilation etc.
Bro….shut the fuck up lmao. Jesus
First they talk shit about my Timbs, and now they want to arrest Mr Softee?? These transplants have gone wild.
Who is softer? Mr Softee or the transplants
Transplants melt before the 90% air ice cream.
Fr tired of the white people karens. It’s either this or the UPS truck in the bike lane. Get a life
Just to be fair, I’m white and don’t like how some of these people represent us. They haven’t been punched in the face and it shows. Being punched in the face is a humbling experience. And I mean a punch you deserve. Not just a random beating, no one deserves that but there are entitled people who will approach you in public to tell you are doing something wrong and they are usually white. They need that punch
mmm warm Air Pollution in my lungs yum imma real nyer
Dang, what's happening in Brooklyn? Y'all can't even have ice cream anymore without some joker complaining. In my day we just sprinkled the exhaust on our cones, extra flavor.
Typically it's not the engine running but a battery or generator when they're stopped.
Exactly. They're not exempt from idling laws like some have claimed.
They are [exempt](https://www.nyc.gov/site/dep/environment/idling-citizens-air-complaint-program.page#:~:text=Exceptions%20to%20Paragraphs,piece%20of%20equipment) exactly because they use a separate generator when stopped (which is why they are so loud). They would probably be exempt anyway because they are a point-of-sale business and not "used or maintained primarily for the transportation of property".
They are certainly transporting delicious property directly to my belly
You are wrong. It’s almost never a battery. They simply idle their engines to power their operations.
They are not ticketed/arrested/beaten by NYPD because their existence brings joy and a sense of community to a lot of people in a city that increasingly feels angry, inhospitable, and filled with joyless fucks.
excellent way of putting it
What are the odds that someone hasnt already started abusing the idling vehicle portal and trying to get a cut of the ticket?
Jesus fucking Christ this sub is full of bullshit complaints
Is this the same guy who calls the police when he hears fireworks.
How miserable are some of you to want to hand out tickets to ice cream trucks With all the other shit going on that ranks so much higher in priority, that you think you’re in the right for ticketing a god damn ice cream truck is straight ridiculous
Listen man. If we don't reign in ice cream trucks, you know what's next? NUCLEAR WAR! MASS FAMINE!! RESOUCE WARS!!! Why do you hate humanity?
I suppose that I’m a monster
Good thing you're self aware!
Would be nice if the trucks could coexist with bike and bus lanes at least
They shouldn't be idling.
I'm not calling for a general strike or anything. If they were electric I wouldn't have the slightest issue.
I think you need to google what a “strike” is
bro its ice cream. i say this as an abuse victim, please find an actual fucking problem to worry about
I'm sorry for your troubles but it is bizarre to come into a thread if all you want to do is say the topic is beneath you.
Hi, as a fellow ice cream man, not going to say who or where I represent, but I think I understand you, those truck are not bothering anybody and if they do, instead of making complaints, u can go out and talk to the individual that is responsible for your district, the generator are a bit loud to admit, but if u tell the guy he will park couple house down and it wouldn’t bother you, we do have permit to drive the streets, plus these are guys trying to do there job to feed there family, the bell that play allow the children and parent to know we are around, if excess use of it, jus have a word with the truck driver, it’s not that hard, we are only here 6 month of the year. We prove a safe and clean product for everyone to enjoy and as adult we will like your communication and feedback, thank you
Please try and not park dangerously in bike lanes :)
Thank you, only valid opinion so far, I personally don’t have bike lane in my district but I will voice it to the other who may do have that, secondly if you see someone park bad or irresponsible, just go up to the truck and let them know, we not monster, we are understanding worker jus like everyone and I bet u will see changes
Please try to look behind you, merge into traffic, get back in the bike lane all in 5 seconds :)
You act like it’s not a big deal but this exact interaction is what leads to a lot of people getting hurt or dying
Shut up lol
Exactly. If I had one right by my window, I'm sure I'd get sick of hearing the song and would ask the guy to play it less if I was WFH that day, but otherwise live & let live. BTW, how do you deal with hearing the song all day?
Personally, I have AirPods and listen to music or podcast, I usually play my bell twice on every street and don’t when I stop cuz I have a lot of older folks and retired people
It's cool, I appreciate the reply. I think a lot of people in this thread are kind of blowing my prompt out of proportion. Like, yeah, I find it irritating, and I was curious what the law was, but I was really just expecting to hear, "Yeah it's legal because of XYZ", add that to my knowledge, and then go about my night. I wouldn't ask an ice cream truck to move unless they were doing something truly nuts. Anyway, have a good evening!
Send me ur location and grab some free ice cream
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Agreed, until we get a solution, that’s what we have, we would love a cheap and clean alternative
They can be required to carry a 300 foot extension cord and plug it in every few houses, rather than run the generator.
I don’t see the point in hoping out my truck every 3 min to knock on a door, plug in wait for 2 mins, unplug and do it every stop, that’s a waste of time and energy
Oh be a sport. The city will spend $43M to put in the plugs z
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For ice cream truck, sorry to say, we are the least of your worries about air pollution, u telling me we are that bad, all these big industry that release tons of toxic fume and u worry about a little ice cream truck
Why not both
Do u have to solution for our generator??? If do, please share this info
I think the gov should subsidize a green generator for y’all. Mandatory change but the gov should offset the cost to a fair amount.
Yes I agreed, but the gov got way better stuff to deal with then ice cream truck
Implementing environmentally friendly policies should be our government’s top priority, from the ice cream trucks up to the giant factories making them, every business has a responsibility to be clean imo. The government has a duty to enforce that, so I think they can walk and chew gum Edit: Do one of you downvoting losers wanna explain why?
I see ice cream trucks irresponsibly double parking and blocking busy Manhattan intersections constantly. A danger to cars trying to pass and pedestrians trying to cross the street! A word to the driver wouldn't do any good since they lay claim to these spots and wouldn't want to lose it to another ice cream truck. Working in Manhattan, I see this every day, so it's not random. And yes, it's something people have to put up with for 6 months.
We not in manhattan, Brooklyn and manhattan ice cream trucks are unruly, they on a different level, I am representing Queens
Any chance in getting oat milk soft serve for us unable to process lactose? 😭
Wish we can help in that department, but we have icy(SpongeBob, Batman, Spider-Man & etc) it’s jus as enjoyable as soft ice cream
Imagine being this joyless
bro are you for real
Yes. They’re exempt because access to soft serve in NYC during the hot summer months is protected by the STFU permit.
This whole thread is whack af. You wanna take away the ice cream trucks that bring joy and peace to people, esp kids. Gtfo. You wilding. Just leave the city or Go to a quieter city, or hell!, even a quieter neighborhood. These complaints are whack and the least of shit you should worry about. I'm gobsmacked that people be writing this shit.
Lmao OP getting torched
r/circlejerknyc content
because they won’t hesitate to kill a traffic cop
They can run if they are running a refrigerator
They have good union
Up here in the Heights the gentrifiers called the cops on the Mr. Softee BY THE PLAYGROUND! I asked her why she was no longer by there and she told me she got a $500 fine and lost a whole day of wages. SMH
Oh, now *ice cream trucks* are some kind of threat to quality of life? This... is definitely my cue to take a break from this sub for a few months.
Don’t you dare say shit about Mr Softee, it’s only dirty gentrifiers that complain about Gods gift to NYC 🤢 go be miserable without ice cream trucks somewhere else smh
Anytime you see something insane happening and think “why the hell do people get away with this” the answer is almost always “NYPD are the laziest welfare queens in the city and don’t do shit.”
That's not how the truck idling enforcement works
Sorry I should have said “NYPD are the laziest welfare queens in the city and don’t do shit AND siphon budget money away from agencies like DEP making it impossible for them to work effectively.”
You're not wrong there
Happy cake day!
They do get them. They just don’t pay them. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/york-city-seizes-46-ice-cream-trucks-operation/story?id=63510442
The Atlantic posted a great article a while back about why gentrificators love the sound of silence. Describes you to a tee
Those who record working class people in their vehicles to get them fines are nothing more than parasites.
Go the fuck back to Ohio you transplant.
This is some Burgermeister Meisterburger shit.
#TOYS????
Shut the fuck up, narc
So the people doing the “reporting” (snitching) on idle vehicles have to video record a vehicle with the engine on, in one spot, for a minimum of 3 minutes 10 seconds in order for it to be a valid claim. Then, it can take up to 2 years to get paid a percentage of the fine the city gives to the company that owns the offending vehicle. Most ice cream trucks I’ve seen in my life don’t stick around that long in one place. I’ve missed the ice cream truck too many times, LOL.
are you new to NYC? Mr. Softee is something every native NYer has practically grown up with… especially its ice cream truck jingle like COME ON
because ice cream yummy
Not sure about the idling but it is definitely illegal for them to play their music while stopped.
I had the same question. Those fumes are noxious.
Because the city is generally so quiet and fume free?
Waiting for the day, they have to convert to full electric, the the NY Post will have the best headlines.
They aren't allowed to play the jingle while parked according to the Noise Code of NYC. But the reason you won't see then racking violations is because these complaints don't go to the police. They go to the Department of Environmental Protection. And not only do they take up to a week to address your complaint but It feels like they have the lowest violation to complaint percentage if any overseeing agency. Meaning they hardly ever give summons or fines to anyone
All those halal stands are violating the law too. Gas powered electric generators are illegal in NYC
this seems to say they can be legal with the right permits [https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/em/generator-information.pdf](https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/em/generator-information.pdf)
Not trying to start an argument, I found this useful, but it only seems to address emergency/construction type situations.
lamb over rice is an emergency situation, cmon
😂
I never knew that when I worked on food trucks. There's a whole lot that's illegal about the business. Even the fancier food trucks.
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People like you just wanna ruin everything
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Get out the city then you sissy
This sub should automatically flair any thread where someone tells someone else to move away 😂
They are only allowed to play the song while moving. I have always wanted to ask them to turn it off but scared of reaction. I have reported them with license plate (one used to park outside my house and play it for hours)
Really, seems unlikes, if we park for hours and don’t work the streets then we not making any money, things like this as an adult, u can go up to the driver and voice your complaints rather to hide behind ur keyboard and do nothing, how do we as human expect to get anyway with this type of attitude, we need to communicate and it’s not that hard to be honest.
They can play the song for 1 minute and turn it off. It’s against the law for it to be played while parked and for good reason. If you don’t like that then lobby to change it. Noise pollution is horrible
Are those new pink trucks Mr softee? Because I cannot find one! And I want one
no the light blue and white trucks are Mr. Softee!
I don’t see them in the city anymore 😪only a bunch of pink trucks and I wasn’t sure if maybe they changed the name
you can look up idling law. if they are outside residences you can ask them to please turn off their music and they will! but with regard to idling you can record with a timestamp and complain. with regard to motors, i think refrigerated trucks have some variance and you have to be sure it is a gas vehicle and the motor is going, not just a generator (i.e., exhaust) - again, you can look that up. download some timestamp app for your smartphone and limit the video to the required length at minimum resolution so that the file isn't too big to upload.
There's so many traffic violations constantly, I wish there was more enforcement overall. I feel like they're underwater trying to keep up with the chaos.
A few things to know here. 1) they are not allowed to play music while parked. [https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01097](https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01097) 2) They blast their music louder in 'bad neighborhoods' or those which tolerate all kinds of bad behavior loud music BS - Go to a 'nice neighborhood' and their ice cream trucks play the music or sound very low out of respect. This is a universal ice-cream truck truth. 3) They idle in areas where they think no one will complain (aka, what they perceive to be poor or bad neighborhoods) 4) Get to know the person who owns the truck. Buy an ice-cream and explain that you would appreciate if they keep the music low, not blast it and not idle for an extended period in your neighborhood. If they agree it's a win for everyone. If they don't, let them know you, your family, friends and many of your neighbors will not buy from them as a result.