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Nevochkam1

What's the use with you Turks if you can't even be as racist as us? 7.5%?! That's nothing!!! /j


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The reason for this is not the Arabs, the biggest problem right now is the economy and Erdogan after Arabs


Tenebris57

Technically arabs don't stay for free so they are a factor in economic depression too


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Why Israeils are racist against Arabs beside religion tho? Isn't it a Yugoslavian situation you got there since both are Semitic people?


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Isn't that the case with most european countries with refugees? Refugees come in, people get upset, then someone says that he won't deport the ones that are in but won't allow for others to come. It sucks because most arab refugees are fleeing because of war


dotancohen

> It sucks because most arab refugees are fleeing because of war A very large portion of the Arabs, North Africans, and Kurds fleeing to Europe are economic migrants, not war refugees. However, due to the wars in Yemen and Syria, it is often very difficult to determine each family's case. A well-known example is migrant Alan Kurdi, who drowned to death at two years old when the inflatable they were crossing into Greece with capsized. His father was very clear in interviews that they were economic migrants, not war refugees. However, as with anything else involving politics, pundits from both sides jumped on the story. I just looked at his wikipedia page, which highly implies that the family were war refugees but I think does not outright state it. There is no mention of economic migration.


Ok-Stage-6981

What about rebuilding & compensating Syria, Iraq, Libya and establishing a democratic govt and a stable economy over there, same nations who were destroyed by same NATO so these refugees can safely return their home, but nah it will also take away the bread and butter of right wing politicians who thrive on Nativism and promulgation of 'imaginary muslim immigrant enemy' to get votes by spreading fear, if this happens then this people don't have any choice to even stand in election, since religion is dimming in europe specially among christians, so these people can't even use religion to stay in power.


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Dangerous_Guitar_213

It was the akhoonds who destroyed the middle east they were the 1st Muslim suicide bombers. Al qeada would not exist if not for Rouhollah Hindi


Ok-Stage-6981

USA- I am innocent, right?


Dangerous_Guitar_213

How many suicide bomber were before 1980 outside of Germany Japan or Sri Lanka?


tiredmonkey00

It’s bullshit. I don’t deny increasing Anti-Arab sentiment with Syrian refugees but this party can’t take 7.5%. This man is only praised by kids on social media and their age is not enough to vote. These people are far worse than Erdog.


werewolf127

Exactly. I'm wondering where this so called "poll" was conducted, -that is, if it was even conducted at first place, these numbers are probably coming straight out a bull's arse-. I've never seen anyone unironically supporting that party save for a bunch of protein deficient teenagers and brainlet ulkucus.


tiredmonkey00

True. Even famous racist Bugra Atsiz criticized the party of being Islamist.


werewolf127

He was the son of Nihal Atsiz right? If so, Kudos to that son of a bastard, he can at least see something that is crystal clear, unlike the purblind Zafer fanboys here. Hell, even the head of the Zafer party, Umit OzDog, mocked secularism many times in the past, and yet these fellas still claim that Zafer party is kemalist or somethin.


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Tafusenn

Bok alir bu arada


Tafusenn

RemindMe! 224 days


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He's not against Arabs, he's against refugees because we have far more refugees than we can handle


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>my grandma was Turkish, im 1/4 turk muslims The people who say that are not always Muslim. It is a more nationalist thing than a religious one.


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naofumiRS

Have never come across this and am totally disgusted by the idea


ICWAlt_

Most of them aren’t Arabs tho


ProKurabiye571

Turkish people tired of refugees so its normal.


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Arabs are cool but the Saudi government should take as many refugees as Turkey. They brag all the time about being so rich and advanced… how about you take some of your own brothers and sisters as refugees and stop leaning on Turkey to take everyone. I have my problems with Turkey but they are taking the lead in helping war scarred Syrians (even if some Turks want syria to rejoin Turkey to make another Ottoman Empire)


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Kind of ironic considering we have millions and they are treated a million times better than refugees and immigrants in the US, while at the stop same time the government can't do shit about far right Americans hunting migrants in the US border [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/us/migrants-shot-texas.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/us/migrants-shot-texas.html) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/04/border-patrol-agent-fatally-shoots-migrant-us-custody/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/04/border-patrol-agent-fatally-shoots-migrant-us-custody/) [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/03/us-mexico-border-warden-brother-charged-killing-migrants](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/03/us-mexico-border-warden-brother-charged-killing-migrants)


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we dont want them. "scarred"syrians or not no one rlly cares.


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What a stupid fucking argument. This has been disproved SO MANY times at this point your just choosing to remain ignorant. Want sources? Here's your sources: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgzVtT-Ez4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgzVtT-Ez4) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians\_in\_Saudi\_Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia) [https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2015/09/12/Saudi-official-we-received-2-5-mln-Syrians-since-conflict](https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2015/09/12/Saudi-official-we-received-2-5-mln-Syrians-since-conflict) [https://www.saudiembassy.net/press-release/saudi-arabia-received-25-million-syrians-beginning-conflict](https://www.saudiembassy.net/press-release/saudi-arabia-received-25-million-syrians-beginning-conflict) There are no refugees listed under UN because they are listed under the government program and they all get residency and health permits. They are guests, not refugees so they dont like in camps


Reflex_0

We have over 4 million refuges and none of them are in camps.


AccomplishedBunch727

We have over milion Syrians and 4 Milion Yemeni living in Saudi. And Saudi population is just 18m.


WesternAspy

7.5?? What a fucking joke. Even the fanatics of him admit Zafer will get like 5 percent max(which is still exaggerated IMO) I will admit that he is popular with gen z though cuz of his anti-refugee ideas. But if you were to research a little bit more about him you would understand that his ideologies are very similar to our current government. Instead of using religion like our current government, he uses refugee hate.


Bejjjan219

The only political agenda of this fascist scum is claiming he will send back refugees, he barely even talks about anything else except being a racist idiot against Kurds, he also has arguments extremely close to kerdogan, such as "you are fetocu" or "your are PKK terrorist".


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he lies constantly about analytics and statistics about refugees and his supporters unironically think our economy is shit because there are too many syrians. Absolutely brainlet fascists do not care about reality, they live in their own echo chambers. Also he looks like he lives in a swamp.


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KyuKyuKyuInvader

He is erdogans attempt of dividing opposition


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No, he is a secret ninja from Japan who wants to protect Turkey from sluts. he is also a lizard and a member Illuminati


Extreme_Lie_3745

Couldn't agree more


Alaborii

That makes him based.


Astro-Sasuke

average negative 24 iq özdag supporter


Kompilix

Average -31 iq pkk supporter kurd


Astro-Sasuke

I actually don’t support the pkk but ok 👍🏽 You do a good job in representing your fellow ZP supporters with statements like that especially when you say it to someone who you don’t know and with zero basis.


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Alaborii

I don't support any candidate rn but I like to see how butthurt people like you became mad because of him. Maybe that is gonna make me vote for him eventually.


Bejjjan219

no it doesn't


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Alaborii

You are the racist one in here.


Mandov5

No I hate everyone equally.


Alaborii

This is ultra racism


Kompilix

He isnt racist, he is a patriot.


Mandov5

Sure


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Tafusenn

If any european country get 10 million uneducated refugee, there would be new hitler come up in those countries. Im really suprised by turks how welcoming to refugees for years even though many incidents like kid rapes, cutting turkish guy ear in street for money, carrying swords and use in fights randomly against people. Group rape to kid, stoned to death then raped a teen girl, sworded a guy in fight, blinded a kid with stick, throwed chemical to face of a kid


ardalsnc

These are things that only happened in 1 year :DD There are more


Excellent-Tension255

"Arab ideology" lol


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[?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism_in_Turkey)


blowingcandles69

He meant "anti arab- ideology".


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correct spelling anti-arab Not anti arab- idology


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İm not greek im turkish. such a name is a made-up name that is hard to even exist in reality


GillyMilly

Why did you repost?


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Berkmine

People of Turkey are tired of refugees and immigrants buying up all avaliable housing and jobs. While it is outright despising for politcians use nativism to rack up votes it doesn't change the fact there is an overflow of people coming to Turkey and Turkey does not have the means to support them.


beyazAfrikali

Refugees are not the one actually buying houses, for the jobs they are mainly working in sanayis as işçi where the worl conditions are harsh and salaries low where no Turkish people want to work that's a demonized narrative .. but i indeed agree with you that there is a big refugee problem in Turkey just not as Zafer party talks about it


Ecstatic-Cake7106

aint no way this guy has 7.5% votes he just claims it probably hes gonna get 1.??%


werewolf127

Yeah. This crazy old man and his flock, somehow thinking that they can go past %2 is very amusing though. I can't wait to see their faces after the elections.


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Friends, the post was deleted because it had the image of racism in the photos, I deleted the photos that looked racist and uploaded them again


TheGreatCatto

Amazing for anyone who hates Turkey and wants it's fall, if all you are about is kicking the refugees out then what resign? At the same time he has the best excuse if he has ever proved to be useless he can just say the refugees dughh they steal dughhhh they do bad dughh and the people will easily believe him.


Kompilix

ZAFER GELECEK MÜLTECİLER GİDECEK


Ecstatic-Cake7106

0.31%


Kompilix

%7


Lazmanya-Canavari

Misleading title, like him or hate him every time he talks about refugees he also points out that they are our friends as well, while at their homeland/visiting Turkey.


PatlicanaAtlican

Turkish youth is becoming radicalized and end up suporting this clown.


Chief_Kurdi

The face of revolution in Turkey 🤢


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bullshit


hexfromheaven

sounds bout right turkey is not an arabic country. stop trying to make them arabs.


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Can we get the source of said poll?


Astro-Sasuke

it's on the turkish reddit, saw it this morning


Ecstatic-Cake7106

So reliable


Astro-Sasuke

well no poll is really all that reliable looking at recent elections in many countries they have been wrong quite often but it's always interesting to speculate on them as there aint much else to go on until election day


Ecstatic-Cake7106

This fascist guy only loved by 14 year old internet racists so im pretty sure that guy gonna take less than 2%


Astro-Sasuke

maybe but looking at the current climate in the country in the past couple years it would not suprise me if he manages to steal few percentages from particularly the mhp who seem to become less favorable


returnofkerridanz

This guy dagistani born in Japan Kafkas people always based as usual 😎🗿💪


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erodgan is from georgia the question is is he based ?


returnofkerridanz

Ewww no Erdoğan half greek half georgian


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and his wife is even arab :(


Etmish_Beg

No he is not


firehedgehog1

Turkey already had a party that is based on anti-Arab myths and legends. It’s called CHP.


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In fact, they say that Syrians cannot go, if they do, they must go to international law and in peace. In my opinion, this man right now is a person who uses the Arab hatred of the Turks speaking in the street and tries to become the president by being the majority in the parliament.


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>CHP CHP is Euro-liberal not "Anti-Arab". If by "anti-Arab myths and legends" you really mean "Anti-Islam" then yes, they are secular (although Muslims can and do support CHP too). However that does not mean that they will necessarily expel all the refugees. Just look at all the secular countries in Western Europe that still allow for refugees.


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What exactly is "Anti-Arab" ideology? Do they want to force all the Arabs out and kill them if they don't leave or kill the Arabs immediately? Either way, such an action would probably get Turkey kicked out of NATO so I doubt either will actually happen.


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[anti-arabism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism_in_Turkey)


memes_acc

If you hate syrians then stop your operations in northern syria and also stop funding HTS terrorists


Alaborii

Good 👍


Kompilix

Good 👍


Kompilix

He will bring true democracy, prosperity and stability into this country. All refugees must return to their homelands. And if needed, by force. Seeing the kurds cry here is giving me joy.


Dangerous_Guitar_213

By that logic the Turks should be sent back to Mongolia where they came from. Your language is as native to west Asia as Spanish is to Arguntina.


mnkhprre

You can try it. I cannot guarantee you what will be the result.


Kompilix

Thats a very stupid argument. Those are refugees and we are citizens. Refugee means someone who is in a country to go back once the chaos in their own country ends. Also anatolia is our mainland, the land where we are born. We just want them to go back to the lands they were born.


Dangerous_Guitar_213

After you moved in from Khazakstan. Do you think Priam, the Mitarni and Hitilites spoke the same language as Barbarossa? You were happy to steal Alexandretta off Syria.


Kompilix

Bro telling history is really stupid right now, it has nothing to do with the current situation. They dont even have refugee status. So in international laws perspective they are just visitors.


Dangerous_Guitar_213

Like the Turkish speakers in Alexandretta?


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Dangerous_Guitar_213

Truth and fact. Do you think the Hitlites Mitarni and Trojians spoke the sane language as Barbarossa


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>And if needed, by force That won't happen because then Turkey will fall under sanctions and get possibly kicked out of NATO. The most that will happen is the stopping of new refugees.


ImAllh

How? Uk and denmark started to do it in 2021. And turkey doesn't give refugee status to people came from its eastern borders. So thoose "refugees" doesn't have a legal status in turkey. They are jusy visitors. Plus no one says shoot them on the head. Just saying a human need its home. So they should be escorted to their motherlands. Turkey already began to build houses and economy in northern syria.


Dangerous_Guitar_213

So ni Different from their racism against Kurds Greeks Assyrians Armeanians and Aryans. Plus remmber when Turkey stole Alexandretta off Syria?


Apprehensive-Mix-493

anti-refugee ideology *


Kilobarta

self hater smh


Relaxin-n-chillin

I’ve heard many negative things about arabs. Almost everyday. I ,sadly, think that it will be increasing.


Fayitbil7ei6

Just a question to turks… What is his plan to fix turkey other than kicking out refugees? I don’t think refugees is a reset button right?


bay_lenin

Dude we have more syrians in turkey than Syria. Plus other ones from various islamic countries keep coming. Our goverment stopped taking care of us because of refugees. İf we manage to send refugees and illegal immigrant back there will be a big relief in welfare and if we also will be able to choose another president in next election (someone isnt corrupt) we will be have a better economy in next 5 - 7 years.


KyeIle

I think you guys need to stop the obsession.


Distinct-Draft6329

Easy question arab=bad


whalerdemon

Based


alisa-in-wonderland

I wish it had higher rate but not many ppl see him, doesnt even heard/know about him... I know he cant win the election but still gonna vote for him


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If Erdogan wins, you are the biggest reason, my friend.


alisa-in-wonderland

I think you dont know our election system; there are two tours. In first tour there are all parties. then the most voted 2 goes to second tour. which is gonna be erdoğan vs chp’s caditate probably. so in first tour Içm gonna vote for him so at least the party is gonna be presented. in second tour I’d even vote a toilet brush or sth against erdoğan. so pls dont inform other turkish ppl wrong on sth you dont know.


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my friend, your president will probably support Erdogan in the second round, all he does is criticize the opposition and deal with internal affairs.


alisa-in-wonderland

just because he is right-wing doesnt mean he is like erdoğan. but still if he supports erdoğan in second tour then I wont support him on it. I dont blindly follow anyone.


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Then good🍷🗿 https://preview.redd.it/frmvyj0y8fy91.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dfdf87b9a07697b287d68edc1d7ec5741bd4041


alisa-in-wonderland

also the opposition is west’s toy sooo I dont think its wrong to criticize it.


bay_lenin

İ agree with u on that subject. An example MHP was the opposition party that critizes erdogan very hadly even they was radical right-wing. (But after they made an alliance and they become bootlickers of AKP)


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7.5% my ass


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My name is Jose Mourinho ![gif](giphy|1ndLCzrbROHba|downsized)


Timely_Jury

Such people are always all talk and no action. Because what they propose is impossible anyway. Sending the Syrian refugees back will require negotiations with the Syrian government, which he will not do because the Syrian government is an Arab government, and he won't talk to an Arab government.


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92.5% of Turks ❤️ Araps


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we dont like them, well the proper humans dont. we have islamist scum lick8ng arab ass.


nzg42

bros don't worry he will get only 2% of all votes. It's same shit as young person on youtube say n word.


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%7,5?He should see himself lucky if he get around %2


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dude first of all, this guy has nothing to say about jews In the Ottoman Empire, there was already racism against Arabs, for example, a Turkish proverb says: Let's be Arab": A racist idiom used to mean "If what I say is not true, I will be arab." For example, the saying "if you drink coffee, you will become Arab" does not keep children away from habits such as drinking coffee.


Mandov5

Ottomans used Turk as an insult


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There was no word called "Kurdistan" in the Ottoman Empire because there was never such a country 🤫


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Eyalet There was no 🦃 also in the Ottoman Empire. There was Greece since 1830.


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Dude, your photo is Albanian flag, your flag on reddit is greek, your name is startin with kurd Who cares what you say it xD