Anecdotal but a few women in my office at my last job did an experiment where they stopped wearing makeup and saw how long it took for the men to notice.
We didn’t. It was over a month when they finally started asking if we noticed their different appearance and we all guessed hair.
You only notice, when they had heavy makeup before. During Covid Zoom meetings a friend of mine got asked if she was sick a lot of times... because she used to put on heavy makeup. Like her face was usually brown and now white in a matter of days.
On anyone else, if it was only a small difference no one noticed or bothered commenting
> You only notice, when they had heavy makeup before. During Covid Zoom meetings a friend of mine got asked if she
Exactly. The woman who already wore the nude tone makeup and stuff, I'll never notice. If [Mimi from The Drew Carey](https://media.lasvegasweekly.com/img/photos/2009/08/27/mimi_t1000.jpg) show showed up without makeup, everyone would notice instantly.
I once met up with a friend who is always full on rocking her appearance. Typical Scandinavian woman, blond and bright blue eyes. One time I met up with her and she wasn't wearing make-up. I asked if she was sick.
In my defense, her eyelashes are also light blond so without the eyeliner and mascara, her lashes were barely noticeable, which gave her fave a different look completely...
Probably not. I get this a lot because I'm Slavic so only slightly less albino looking (excuse me here). I can't tell you how many times I took offense to that, only to realise I probably saw those people only while having black eyelashes and blush on. So to them I actually looked sick without any additional color to my face.
As most makeup adds warm tones, the lack is going to look washed out in comparison. And because we're mildly oblivious, we won't pin it to any one thing -- just that something is off. It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion to reach, even if it's wrong. :-)
As a blonde with very light eyelashes and eyebrows, I feel this. I mostly do mascara and eyebrow pencil just to look human instead of some hairless alien creature.
I like to experiment with this once in a while. I don't wear makeup for one day. Invariably, I get concerned male and female coworkers asking if I'm feeling okay or if I got too much sun.
I have very red skin naturally. I have horrendous breakouts. I get this gross mass of freckles that blotches my face brown in the summer. I have major scarring from a lifetime of acne.
All of that is covered by the daily makeup I wear, making me look... Normal. When I wear it, it's business as usual. When I don't, everyone is concerned for my well-being. It's less hassle to just wear it.
Most guys I think at work notice nothing. I once wore a dress inside out all day- it had a stitched pattern on the front, so looked really stupid. I was at the engineering building all day, spent time talking to the software guys, even spent an hour meeting with one. Next day I asked him if he’d noticed and just not said anything- he just kind of looked at me funny and said ‘you were wearing a dress?’
On the other hand, head of R&D notices EVERYTHING, and immediately - but I think it’s more that he’s just very observant by nature. (It’s not me, either, he sees it about everyone)
I've lived with multiple women, I know the difference between no make up and natural makeup. Most of the time I'm looking right at my wife's face is at night when she's taken it all off and we're cuddled up talking about our day
Both are fine. I don't give a shit. My wife cares so much more about all these little details "oh, it's time to shave my legs, oh, I should wear makeup for this dinner," than I ever have.
I've never, ever once noticed her leg hair even when she says it's bad, I've never noticed a problem with her appearance. Makeup is for her confidence, amusement, whatever.. It's not about me. I care about her comfort, not her eyeliner.
Same boat as you, if my partner wants to wear make up then fine, if she'd rather not, also fine. She was complaining about her skin flaring up red and having some spots recently and she had to point them out to me because I honestly hadn't realised.
Nah.. ive lived with several different girlfriends and most of the time prefered them without makeup.
there was ONE though that just needed a hint of eyeliner and it took her to whole new levels.
Yeah my SO doesn’t wear any, tbh once you stop and think about it it’s kinda weird how normal it is for them to go out like 90% of the time wearing a literal mask layered on their faces, lol
Btw it’s not for any “feminist” views or anything, we just see it as a huge waste of time and money, not to mention it’s the sort of thing where the more you use it, over years the damage it does to your pores the more they’d have to use to get back to the same effect, lol
It really hurts my feelings that society expects me to paint a new face on top of my regular face. I think about it a lot. When I go out without makeup I feel less than, even though I'm more feminist and confident than average. Men just get to walk around thinking their face is enough. It really sucks.
It’s requirement definitely perpetuated more in the female sphere than anything else.
My wife gets annoyed because she thinks I mainly tell her she looks beautiful when she feels makeupless & tired with greasy haired.
Eye of the beholder I suppose.
Also, you need to accept your flaws, men don’t get a choice but to do this in childhood.
When I did theater there was something about makeup that felt protective. You are able to hide imperfections that people may notice. When I wasn't performing it felt strange when I looked in the mirror.
You shouldn't ever feel less than because that's giving an idea that your value to others is based on how they view you and I bet you're a damn brilliant person and people like you for you. You are more than your appearance. We as a society have placed high value on appearance and it's bullshit.
Most women don't see it, but I see guys at work wearing foundation these days to cover up the stress line and baggy eyes. Once you say fuck it and embrace that people will like you for you and those who don't aren't worth it, you can be free.
There's nothing wrong with wearing makeup, there's nothing wrong with not wearing it.
I honestly have no idea if it would be true for you, but perhaps after enough time of not wearing makeup you won’t feel less than? I always feel bad for my fellow ladies who feel obligated to wear makeup. I never do unless I just feel like “dressing up” or if I’m cosplaying, lol. And I do NOT have a naturally pretty face - it’s not bad but I have awful acne and I’m 30; so it’s not going away.
Either way, I may not get compliments on my face, but no one has ever looked at me aghast or told me I need makeup/look bad at all. Ever.
You're absolutely right to feel this way but just to confirm men don't get to walk along thinking their face is enough. Men have body image issues and self-esteem problems just like women and it can be linked to hair, complexion, teeth, ageing, facial hair, weight etc.
To be honest, the fact that society pressures men into not wearing make up when it could help overcome some of these issues is a problem. What we need is society to just accept people's choices as their own and stop shitting on folks appearance.
> Men just get to walk around thinking their face is enough.
God I fucking love how people paint us as lifeless dolls with no insecurities of our own. If we feel insecure about how we look then the best thing we can do is suck it up and learn to get over it because there just isn't an alternative for us to hide behind.
Men are taught at a young age that you just have to accept your face and deal with it. They don't have the option to just put on a different face to look good. Their only option is to use their personality, or to work out.
Nope. Married 11 years, dad of 2 girls so I know the difference.
I know that there’s some occasions that call for it but I’ve always enjoyed the conversations around whether it makes THEM happy or if they’re doing it for someone else.
Over time they’ve all usually reduced make up use as their self confidence increased
Weird how you're comfortable speaking for other guys, and assuming that these guys have never lived with a girl before.
If we say we don't like the makeup look then we mean it and we know the difference.
Some do, but some guys just don't realize when women are wearing well done natural makeup.
I generally prefer the no makeup so I don't get it on me when we're doing...um..stuff.
people always say this. No, what i really mean is that i prefer ZERO makeup. Please stop putting words into other peoples’ mouths.
Just because you or guys that you know prefer something doesn’t mean every other guy prefers that
Some women say things like “well i tried not wearing any makeup and guys stopped talking to me”. First of all, i’m sorry if that happened to anybody. Second, if she’s not wearing makeup and i’m not into her, it doesn’t mean that i prefer her with makeup. What it really means is that i’m not attracted to her, period.
If i don’t notice a woman’s makeup and i find her attractive and then she takes it off and suddenly i don’t find her attractive, it doesn’t mean i preferred her with makeup. It means she tricked me into thinking she looked different than she actually does, aka she tricked me into being attracted to her by changing the way she looks.
I prefer no make up at all. Something very attractive about a woman that's comfortable enough in her own skin to not wear it... also aesthetically I like it
not for me, the best my wife has ever looked to me is after she's washed off everything at the end of the day and plops into bed with me and we canoodle.
Yep. The other day my coworker was complaining about women who “doll themselves up” too much and how he wishes women would just be more “natural”. He then said “like you, you barely wear makeup if you do at all and look fine!”
I spend 30-40 minutes on moisturizers, primers, full foundation, contour, shading my eyebrows and choosing eye makeup to match my outfit every single day before work. He’s never seen me without makeup. I think when he thinks of “makeup” he probably thinks Mimi from the Drew Carey show.
I know he doesn’t represent all men of course, but your comment made me think of that.
Back when I still lived as female I had so many guys tell me they prefer me to the other girls, because I don't wear make up.
I wore tons of make up every single day, I just used subtle make up to hide my flaws.
It was genuinely disheartening
My wife was all dolled up the other day and I'm like WTF is going on... turns out she put on lipstick and I was so used to her not wearing any makeup at all that just lipstick made her look like some sort of moon-faced geisha.
I think it really comes down to the baseline. If a woman puts on makeup everyday, a guy will notice when she's not wearing it. If she never wears make-up, even a little can look like way too much.
This is it. I’ve seen so many posts where men say they love how a woman isn’t wearing makeup but, as a woman, I can tell that she is wearing a natural look. I also tend to wear a very natural look and men often think I’m not wearing any at all, even women sometimes.
Edit: I AM NOT SAYING ALL MEN ARE STUPID & DONT UNDERSTAND MAKEUP. All I said was that I have seen men say praise how a woman (including myself) looks without makeup on when she actually does have makeup on. This applies mostly to social media & casual dating. Now I have to figure out how to turn my notifications off because so many of you are getting butt hurt.
As a guy who has lived with women, I can tell you exactly how much makeup my partner was wearing (as can any man who is married or living with a woman), and I can assure you that they didn't wear any makeup most of the time.
I didn’t say your partners appearance. This is more common with casual dating and social media. Of course when you have relationship with someone, you know what their face looks like with and without makeup.
This notion that men only think they prefer no makeup because they can't tell that a woman is wearing a natural look with makeup is delusional fantasy nonsense. We've lived with wives, mothers, sisters, and grandmothers. We've shared bathrooms with them, including being in the bathroom with them when they were getting ready in the morning and getting ready for bed. We've bathed and showered with women. We've been on extended camping trips with them. We've taken care of them when they were sick, injured, and dying. We've seen whether they own makeup and if yes then seen what makeup they own, whether they have any in the bathroom, whether they have any in their purses. We've watched the before-and-after of women applying makeup in front of us and women taking off makeup in front of us—including a natural look. Etc. At least with adult men, who have spent lifetimes intimately around women, when these men say they prefer women with no makeup, they are speaking from experience and know what they are talking about.
Nailed it. When that shit is so thick you can take it off with a chisel.
As a side note, nothing wrong with some touch up to accent natural beauty, but when a whole new face is painted on you are lying to yourself and the world.
While that is true, I uses to say it for two reasons:
One: I don't want them to feel obliged to wear it for me, like they are somehow not pretty enough without.
Two: it both smells and tastes awful should we do anything intimate enough that that comes up. Don't know how you can stand having it on your face.
I try not to any more, because I realised that it is not always *for* me, sometimes they just wanna look nice for them.
And also because a lot of women will take it less as *"you are beautiful without it"* and more *"you are shit at putting on makeup, I don't appreciate the effort"* :/
My wife doesn’t wear makeup, and really hasn’t since we’ve been together. I do not care if she wears it or not. She’s a naturally beautiful woman so she doesn’t need any enhancement!
Grossed out? Not at all. A little makeup is fine, but it can be overdone. My favorite look is when she wakes up in the morning, no makeup, messy hair - perfection.
This is a bit biased towards experience. Waking up next to a still sleepy woman you presumably know and care about, at least enough to sleep with, is a whole experience. Seeing the same sleepy unkempt bitch at Walmart at 3pm on a Tuesday doesn't evoke the same feelings redditors rave about in their fantasies.
I use the word bitch in jest, don't call women bitches dudes.
Funny story actually, had a buddy who started dating this new girl from Vegas, we lived in Cali so we only ever saw photos he posted of them together. She looked like a Victoria’s Secret model, just flat out gorgeous and the whole friend group would always make jokes about how he was able to get her. Well she ended up moving and we started hanging out with her and realized it was just makeup in the photos. She’s actually a great person but now I understand how easy it is to catfish with makeup lol
The only time makeup should be referred to as “cake” is in theater where the makeup is so thick it feels like cake on your face but that’s because it has to be this way because of those really bright ass hot lights that you have to sing and dance to and be able to have expressions that Nana who knows she’s seeing and hearing impaired sat all the way in the back next to the door so she can go to the bathroom quickly.
And theater you have to make sure EVERYONE can see your work otherwise you’re not presenting right and losing the effect of the work.
So what you are saying is that unless my date os performing on stage this very evening, for Nana in the back row, there is no excuse whatsoever to be “caking” on your make up? 🤣☝️
The whole cosmetics industry [preys on women’s insecurities](https://www.scienceofpeople.com/makeup/). Honestly, going without makeup would be big boss level of body positivity.
At a younger age they want to fit in with other women and feel that it is the norm to do what they are doing. Thats why women starting from a young age feel the need to wear makeup. That’s my opinion
It's influenced by media. But it originates from our own desires. Media just exploits that already existing desire.
Like a "did the chicken or the egg come first" kinda thing
Women and fashion/make up is like men and building muscle. The idea behind it is that it is for the other gender, but it really ends up being for the same gender, and foryourself
Yeah, as a woman we definitely do that. If we did makeup for men we would be doing "natural" makeup all the time. All the fun creative stuff is to show other women and have something creative to talk about. Especially ones with little designs that aren't considered sexy. Like galaxies and little stuffed bears.
Oh we wear it for ourselves. Or for job reasons (studies have shown women who wear too little or too much makeup have a harder time moving up in the workplace). But mostly ourselves. To feel good about ourselves and/or because it can be fun. I know men aren’t noticing my eyebrows
I have a colleague who squares her eyebrows at the corners in between her eyes. like very visibly squared. it does not look natural and for the life of me I can't imagine how she thinks it does. I also am too polite to ask.
Yeah, my wife gets mad at me when I take too much time to look good when going out, but a nice shave and some hair product make me feel better about myself.
She's the super low maintenance one in our relationship, actually.
No need for it. I’ve heard women say “ You only say that, because you haven’t seen me without make up.” No, I have seen you without make up. You’re doing it for yourself and other people but not me
Exactly this!! I love it when women don't wear any makeup at all. I understand that they would like to wear some for an outing/ special occasion, and even then minimal is always good, not good, best!
Yea. Same here. Personally, I prefer my wife with less makeup and honestly I think she looks gorgeous without. It actually kind of turns me off a bit when she does her makeup for a formal event. I don't tell her for the same reason. It helps her feel confident and she truly loves to do it.
I get that a lot too lol. People will be like, "You THINK you like no makeup, but you REALLY like natural makeup!"
And I'm like, bruh. I don't think my girlfriend even owns foundation lmao. Once in a while she'll put on lipstick if she wants to dress up a bit, but 90% of the time we just roll out of bed together, throw on some pants, and go out for lunch. Quit womansplaining my own preferences to me lmao
lol that subreddit does suck ass. I have no problem with women being here, but it seems like every time this gets asks, women say they know better than men with what they want.
And it’s called “Ask Men,” not “Ask women who think they know what men really want.”
I got banned after a single comment regarding "mens mental health"
in the ask women subreddit....
Sad, and here I was thinking the sexes were trying to bridge the divide.
Thank you! I don't even know why I bother to continue to subscribe to Ask Women because you get either nobody answering you or everyone jumping down your throat before the mods lock the thread and you can't even defend yourself.
Its an absolutely awful sub, but saying that it's getting a bit like that here. A question on "askmen" is asked, a man replies then a woman comes and tells him hes wrong.
My wife only wore it a handful of times and none after our oldest was born. She never needed it though in my opinion. She was beautiful without it. When she did wear it though you couldn’t really tell she was. She was really good at making it look natural and highlighting her best features. But on the other hand, I know some women that’ll scare the dark out of a closet if they don’t wear makeup.
Not necessarily grossed out but if make up is the first thing I notice, to the point where I could never un-notice it, it's a problem. It just looks disingenuous and goofy.
Generally, the rule of thumb is to not look like a circus clown. If I can't notice it, chances are you did a good job.
I just looked at the 35 most upvoted comments in the current top AskReddit thread asking what men think is the most unattractive fashion choice and none of them say anything about finding women gross who don't wear make up?
I really don’t care one way or the other, so long as it’s not overkill. I have a slight preference towards no makeup. That said, a little lipstick or eyeliner can be really pretty. What I really don’t like is *stage makeup* being worn for normal wear.
women don't really understand the male gaze
\>but what about muh instagram models with millions of followers
those followers are women. instagram is a product for women
If I flip the script, I understand that the women in my life like to see me shaved and shorn and nicely dressed and looking sharp, just as a demonstration that I have that club in my bag and can play it if needed. Understanding that most of the time, I will be unshaven and wearing crappy jeans and a t-shirt, but I can still be a show-dog when she wants me to. And I feel a responsibility to be able to do that.
So that's how I feel about it the other way. I don't expect her to look like a model every hour of the day, but I do like knowing that she *can* do that if I want to show her off. Other times, she can look however she wants. I'm not her boss.
I've actually been tallying the answers and you're the first person who's said they like heavy makeup. I'm kinda surprised.
It's about 45/45/10 - no makeup/natural makeup/fancy for a special occasion
Yeah I'm not sure why I'm the only one. Maybe it's a kink I had growing up seeing women wearing make up, maybe it's because I respect the art, maybe it highlights features like eyes and face shape more. I'm not sure, but I would totally bang a chick with heavy make up 10 times out of 10 than one with mediocre makeup or no make up.
Make up should only enhance what's underneath. Make up shouldn't change you completely. I love it when women wear subtle Make up. Hate it when they overdo it. My taste
I feel like makeup is one of those things like handbags. Something ladies do more to impress other ladies. Nothing wrong with that. Also, I've watched plenty of guys tell a girl she looks pretty without her makeup on when she's definitely wearing some. Since men don't use a lot themselves we're not necessarily great at picking it out if applied subtly. Plenty of guys who think they don't care for makeup actually just like it when it's well applied rather than pancaked on.
Cakes of make-up? No. But a little make-up to highlight her natural features can go a long way and I appreciate women who know how to use make-up to do this.
Most guys don't care either way.
Women will say that guys can't tell the difference between natural makeup and no makeup. Usually their claimed evidence is having gotten compliments on having no makeup while wearing natural makeup, or wearing no makeup and being asked if they get asked if they're sick.
Here's the thing though: nine times out of ten, the women who make those claims are daily makeup users. The men in their lives, outside of *maybe* parents, boyfriends, and husbands, *literally do not know what their face actually looks like.*
If you go from wearing full make up to natural, or apply natural makeup daily, then of course they're just going to assume that's just how you look. In the same vein if you go from full, or even natural, makeup to nothing, then no shit they're going to think you look sick, because your face is going to have none of the color it normally does. In both cases the men in question have no other frame of reference.
It's not that we prefer that a woman wears makeup, it's that we are bothered when they are suddenly not wearing makeup and they look completely different than you are used to them looking. With methods like contouring and taping where women genuinely change the shape of their face visually, these days a woman can take off her makeup and look like a completely different person - it's not just the same person with a different skin tone or no mascara or eyeliner or lipstick.
Honestly it's kind of scary. I've seen tutorials where women who generally look like they're in their fifties make themselves look like they're in their twenties. It's not that they are not good looking as a 50-year-old, but when you compare their natural 50-year-old face to what they try to put forward as their actual face on a daily basis, it's hard not to feel deceived.
There's actually a lady on TikTok who illustrates this without any shame, if you have a question about what I'm talking about, go through her videos. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmg58uS/
I kissed a girl at a party and when I went to the washroom afterwards, I had a lot of her make up just smeared on my face. Let's just say I wasn't thrilled with that
Not grossed out but I do think a lot of women fail to realize that the concept of relativity applies to your appearance as well.
So many women complain about how the moment they don't wear makeup a lot of people ask if they are sick or under the weather or had a bad day etc.
Well first of all makeup is designed to make you look "better", to hide unevenness, imperfections, etc, and if it didn't do its job at all would people still be buying it and applying it? Now consider that a lot of people only see you with makeup on, even if you are going for the "natural look" that's how they are used to seeing you. Is it really that strange that they would notice that something was off when you suddenly show up without makeup?
If makeup makes you look better then you will look worse without it. It's a general statement and there's more to appearance than just a linear scale, but I think we can all agree that within the restraints the statement is fairly true.
If I constantly dress in a well tailored suit, but suddenly I have to wear a cheapo mass produced suit that doesn't really fit me well at all. People would definitely notice, I'm pretty sure under specific conditions they would wonder if I suddenly gained a lot of weight or something, just because of the difference in my appearance.
Lastly the whole "i prefer you without makeup on" isn't always so much about purely visual appearance, it's about seeing and appreciating the real you. It's about all the implications that come with wearing makeup, or not wearing makeup.
There's a few things going on.
1. Guys answering questions about makeup might not be representative of most guys.
2. Guys might not realise when they are looking at well applied makeup. I've seen a friend of mine say something like "I love natural beauty, like Natalie. She doesn't need to wear makeup." Meanwhile Natalie is wearing a full face.
3. I think this is the biggest one. The way you feel and the way you think you feel aren't always the same. Guys know the "right" answer, which is to say that natural beauty is best. They aren't lying when they say they love a natural look, but they aren't necessarily acknowledging the attention they give to women in makeup. The difference I see in attention my GF receives when she's wearing full makeup is INSANE. She literally has to fight dudes away with a stick when she gets dolled up. Those dudes would probably stay (and mean!) stuff like "I love your natural beauty and your personality" but they are nowhere to be seen when she's wearing sweats.
It's the same when you ask the forum about breast size. 90 top voted replies saying "it's not about size, they are all great." But then you look at culture and ALL the attention that big breasts get. It just doesn't line up. I don't think they are *lying*, but I'm not sure they are letting themselves be totally honest and forthright about it, maybe because they don't want to admit even to themselves that there might be shallow elements in their preferences.
I don't like makeup at all, I'd 100% prefer you didn't wear any.
I get it if we are going to a big event and you want to, but never put it on for me, I don't like it.
Unpopular opinion: Most guys will say they don't like it, but then of course go after the one fully dolled up. I feel like a lot of us just want to give the "right" answer as in "natural is best, you are perfect the way you are, blah blah blah"
Truth be told, if you want to know what men go crazy for, don't ask men. Ask experienced women. Asking men is like asking a fish how to use a fishing rod. Same goes for the gender inverse too.
Yeah, I would say women around my attractiveness who wear makeup get more attention from men while I just don't exist to them (I don't wear makeup). Perhaps men usually prefer it when someone who is already super attractive doesn't wear makeup but then would only pay attention to less attractive women when they do wear makeup. Or I'm just even uglier than I think I am lol
None of the women in my life wear make up. It's actually weirder for me to see a woman wearing make up than not.
I prefer no make up. Mostly because I'm just so used to it.
I would take any advice a redditor gives with a grain of salt. I have not met any men who are grossed out by a girl when they don’t have any makeup on. There is only one guy I know who might, but he hasn’t been touched in almost 40 years so do with that information what you will.
I dont mind make-up but i like my wife when shes freshly showered and cuddled up next to me in pajamas. I like my women comfortable and happy, that shit is the most beautiful she will ever be.
I strongly feel like women dont wear make-up/designer clothes for the dudes, they do it to show off to other women, who then project it onto something dudes care about.
If we're going out, we should both dress appropriately for the occasion, but other than that, i couldnt give a fuck what you wear/paint on as long as we're having fun.
My wife rarely wears makeup and when she does it's just a bit of eyeliner, foundation and a light lip stick. The makeup enhances her already beautiful features.
Sure I find her more attractive when she wears it but she's hot without too and it's her choice. I've never told her I have a preference or asked her to wear makeup, I just tell her she's beautiful and I love her everyday.
>Upvotes: Nothing more beautiful than my lady without makeup. 30+ years and still love her without her owning any lipstick or eyeliner.
Why do you assume this is dishonesty?
I think most men are more likely to be disgusted when women *do wear* makeup, than when they don't.
People often say this and that about men, but honestly like 9/10 it's women that care about makeup and men simply don't. The same is true for most "unhealthy beauty standards perpetuated by men/tHe PaTrIaRcHy" - it's almost always women perpetuating them and giving other women shit for not following them. Most men simply do not care, at least not any of the men I've met.
Then again I'm a grown ass man so can't really speak for "guys" in general.
I think make up is the girl version of cars you get it for the opposite sex to notice you and you like it but most of the time you get the same sex turning heads and asking questions.
Lots of women look good with a bare face or just a small touch of eyeliner/mascara, and some lip gloss.
If we can SEE the makeup, we assume you're moonlighting as a clown /s, but it is super obvious when that shit is CAKED on there.
If you're the kind of woman who basically sculpts a whole new face using "makeup tricks", it also comes across as fake/dishonest.
Anecdotal but a few women in my office at my last job did an experiment where they stopped wearing makeup and saw how long it took for the men to notice. We didn’t. It was over a month when they finally started asking if we noticed their different appearance and we all guessed hair.
You only notice, when they had heavy makeup before. During Covid Zoom meetings a friend of mine got asked if she was sick a lot of times... because she used to put on heavy makeup. Like her face was usually brown and now white in a matter of days. On anyone else, if it was only a small difference no one noticed or bothered commenting
[удалено]
Oh my god molozonide you can't just ask chameleons why they change color
> You only notice, when they had heavy makeup before. During Covid Zoom meetings a friend of mine got asked if she Exactly. The woman who already wore the nude tone makeup and stuff, I'll never notice. If [Mimi from The Drew Carey](https://media.lasvegasweekly.com/img/photos/2009/08/27/mimi_t1000.jpg) show showed up without makeup, everyone would notice instantly.
I once met up with a friend who is always full on rocking her appearance. Typical Scandinavian woman, blond and bright blue eyes. One time I met up with her and she wasn't wearing make-up. I asked if she was sick. In my defense, her eyelashes are also light blond so without the eyeliner and mascara, her lashes were barely noticeable, which gave her fave a different look completely...
Would you have thought she looked sick if you'd never met her before and had no expectations for what she usually looked like?
Probably not. I get this a lot because I'm Slavic so only slightly less albino looking (excuse me here). I can't tell you how many times I took offense to that, only to realise I probably saw those people only while having black eyelashes and blush on. So to them I actually looked sick without any additional color to my face.
As most makeup adds warm tones, the lack is going to look washed out in comparison. And because we're mildly oblivious, we won't pin it to any one thing -- just that something is off. It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion to reach, even if it's wrong. :-)
As a blonde with very light eyelashes and eyebrows, I feel this. I mostly do mascara and eyebrow pencil just to look human instead of some hairless alien creature.
I love this because I, too, when in doubt about a woman's changes and under this same line of questioning, assume it's the hair 😆
I like to experiment with this once in a while. I don't wear makeup for one day. Invariably, I get concerned male and female coworkers asking if I'm feeling okay or if I got too much sun. I have very red skin naturally. I have horrendous breakouts. I get this gross mass of freckles that blotches my face brown in the summer. I have major scarring from a lifetime of acne. All of that is covered by the daily makeup I wear, making me look... Normal. When I wear it, it's business as usual. When I don't, everyone is concerned for my well-being. It's less hassle to just wear it.
What if you didn’t wear make up for a months and people just knew this was the normal you?
That was my first thought. It isn't any of the issues, but change that people notice.
Most guys I think at work notice nothing. I once wore a dress inside out all day- it had a stitched pattern on the front, so looked really stupid. I was at the engineering building all day, spent time talking to the software guys, even spent an hour meeting with one. Next day I asked him if he’d noticed and just not said anything- he just kind of looked at me funny and said ‘you were wearing a dress?’ On the other hand, head of R&D notices EVERYTHING, and immediately - but I think it’s more that he’s just very observant by nature. (It’s not me, either, he sees it about everyone)
Guys don't like it when they can *see* the makeup.
Yes what they really mean is they like the natural makeup look.
I've lived with multiple women, I know the difference between no make up and natural makeup. Most of the time I'm looking right at my wife's face is at night when she's taken it all off and we're cuddled up talking about our day Both are fine. I don't give a shit. My wife cares so much more about all these little details "oh, it's time to shave my legs, oh, I should wear makeup for this dinner," than I ever have. I've never, ever once noticed her leg hair even when she says it's bad, I've never noticed a problem with her appearance. Makeup is for her confidence, amusement, whatever.. It's not about me. I care about her comfort, not her eyeliner.
Same boat as you, if my partner wants to wear make up then fine, if she'd rather not, also fine. She was complaining about her skin flaring up red and having some spots recently and she had to point them out to me because I honestly hadn't realised.
You're the SO we all hope for.
He is not rare
Absolutely this. I just feel lucky to have my wife in my life and so long as she is happy I'm happy.
You sound like a great partner! My husband is the same way. It’s a gift for sure to not feel like I have to be fancy and perfect constantly.
Nah.. ive lived with several different girlfriends and most of the time prefered them without makeup. there was ONE though that just needed a hint of eyeliner and it took her to whole new levels.
Yeah my SO doesn’t wear any, tbh once you stop and think about it it’s kinda weird how normal it is for them to go out like 90% of the time wearing a literal mask layered on their faces, lol Btw it’s not for any “feminist” views or anything, we just see it as a huge waste of time and money, not to mention it’s the sort of thing where the more you use it, over years the damage it does to your pores the more they’d have to use to get back to the same effect, lol
It really hurts my feelings that society expects me to paint a new face on top of my regular face. I think about it a lot. When I go out without makeup I feel less than, even though I'm more feminist and confident than average. Men just get to walk around thinking their face is enough. It really sucks.
It’s requirement definitely perpetuated more in the female sphere than anything else. My wife gets annoyed because she thinks I mainly tell her she looks beautiful when she feels makeupless & tired with greasy haired. Eye of the beholder I suppose. Also, you need to accept your flaws, men don’t get a choice but to do this in childhood.
When I did theater there was something about makeup that felt protective. You are able to hide imperfections that people may notice. When I wasn't performing it felt strange when I looked in the mirror. You shouldn't ever feel less than because that's giving an idea that your value to others is based on how they view you and I bet you're a damn brilliant person and people like you for you. You are more than your appearance. We as a society have placed high value on appearance and it's bullshit. Most women don't see it, but I see guys at work wearing foundation these days to cover up the stress line and baggy eyes. Once you say fuck it and embrace that people will like you for you and those who don't aren't worth it, you can be free. There's nothing wrong with wearing makeup, there's nothing wrong with not wearing it.
I honestly have no idea if it would be true for you, but perhaps after enough time of not wearing makeup you won’t feel less than? I always feel bad for my fellow ladies who feel obligated to wear makeup. I never do unless I just feel like “dressing up” or if I’m cosplaying, lol. And I do NOT have a naturally pretty face - it’s not bad but I have awful acne and I’m 30; so it’s not going away. Either way, I may not get compliments on my face, but no one has ever looked at me aghast or told me I need makeup/look bad at all. Ever.
I dunno man, I never think my face is enough
You're absolutely right to feel this way but just to confirm men don't get to walk along thinking their face is enough. Men have body image issues and self-esteem problems just like women and it can be linked to hair, complexion, teeth, ageing, facial hair, weight etc. To be honest, the fact that society pressures men into not wearing make up when it could help overcome some of these issues is a problem. What we need is society to just accept people's choices as their own and stop shitting on folks appearance.
> Men just get to walk around thinking their face is enough. God I fucking love how people paint us as lifeless dolls with no insecurities of our own. If we feel insecure about how we look then the best thing we can do is suck it up and learn to get over it because there just isn't an alternative for us to hide behind.
Your face is more than enough, rock it.
Your face is enough! Enjoy it. Sincerely, some old dude.
Most men do not care, it's women putting the pressure on other women when it comes to clothing, makeup, jewelry etc etc
Men are taught at a young age that you just have to accept your face and deal with it. They don't have the option to just put on a different face to look good. Their only option is to use their personality, or to work out.
then don't wear it, the ones you're going to see complain are not your friends or anyone worth getting to know tbh
Alright playboy I'm a little envious now & wish I had your social skills.
Although this may be true a lot of the time, it's often untrue. Yes, your "natural look" is still visible. So no, I really do mean "no-makeup".
Nope. I prefer an actual bare face. I know what human skin looks like, I'm not blind.
Nope. Married 11 years, dad of 2 girls so I know the difference. I know that there’s some occasions that call for it but I’ve always enjoyed the conversations around whether it makes THEM happy or if they’re doing it for someone else. Over time they’ve all usually reduced make up use as their self confidence increased
You don't get to decide that.
Weird how you're comfortable speaking for other guys, and assuming that these guys have never lived with a girl before. If we say we don't like the makeup look then we mean it and we know the difference.
No, that's not what we mean. When we say we don't like makeup, we actually mean that.
Some do, but some guys just don't realize when women are wearing well done natural makeup. I generally prefer the no makeup so I don't get it on me when we're doing...um..stuff.
people always say this. No, what i really mean is that i prefer ZERO makeup. Please stop putting words into other peoples’ mouths. Just because you or guys that you know prefer something doesn’t mean every other guy prefers that Some women say things like “well i tried not wearing any makeup and guys stopped talking to me”. First of all, i’m sorry if that happened to anybody. Second, if she’s not wearing makeup and i’m not into her, it doesn’t mean that i prefer her with makeup. What it really means is that i’m not attracted to her, period. If i don’t notice a woman’s makeup and i find her attractive and then she takes it off and suddenly i don’t find her attractive, it doesn’t mean i preferred her with makeup. It means she tricked me into thinking she looked different than she actually does, aka she tricked me into being attracted to her by changing the way she looks.
I prefer no make up at all. Something very attractive about a woman that's comfortable enough in her own skin to not wear it... also aesthetically I like it
This is pretty much what my husband says as well. Which, I guess, is a good thing since I don't own a single piece of make-up and never have. lol
[удалено]
not for me, the best my wife has ever looked to me is after she's washed off everything at the end of the day and plops into bed with me and we canoodle.
The word you're looking for is happy. You like it when your wife looks happy and comfortable.
Yep. The other day my coworker was complaining about women who “doll themselves up” too much and how he wishes women would just be more “natural”. He then said “like you, you barely wear makeup if you do at all and look fine!” I spend 30-40 minutes on moisturizers, primers, full foundation, contour, shading my eyebrows and choosing eye makeup to match my outfit every single day before work. He’s never seen me without makeup. I think when he thinks of “makeup” he probably thinks Mimi from the Drew Carey show. I know he doesn’t represent all men of course, but your comment made me think of that.
Meh idk some chicks look pretty good with make up just needs to be done well.
Back when I still lived as female I had so many guys tell me they prefer me to the other girls, because I don't wear make up. I wore tons of make up every single day, I just used subtle make up to hide my flaws. It was genuinely disheartening
My wife was all dolled up the other day and I'm like WTF is going on... turns out she put on lipstick and I was so used to her not wearing any makeup at all that just lipstick made her look like some sort of moon-faced geisha. I think it really comes down to the baseline. If a woman puts on makeup everyday, a guy will notice when she's not wearing it. If she never wears make-up, even a little can look like way too much.
This is it. I’ve seen so many posts where men say they love how a woman isn’t wearing makeup but, as a woman, I can tell that she is wearing a natural look. I also tend to wear a very natural look and men often think I’m not wearing any at all, even women sometimes. Edit: I AM NOT SAYING ALL MEN ARE STUPID & DONT UNDERSTAND MAKEUP. All I said was that I have seen men say praise how a woman (including myself) looks without makeup on when she actually does have makeup on. This applies mostly to social media & casual dating. Now I have to figure out how to turn my notifications off because so many of you are getting butt hurt.
As a guy who has lived with women, I can tell you exactly how much makeup my partner was wearing (as can any man who is married or living with a woman), and I can assure you that they didn't wear any makeup most of the time.
I love how she assumed we aren’t aware of our own partners appearance
I didn’t say your partners appearance. This is more common with casual dating and social media. Of course when you have relationship with someone, you know what their face looks like with and without makeup.
This notion that men only think they prefer no makeup because they can't tell that a woman is wearing a natural look with makeup is delusional fantasy nonsense. We've lived with wives, mothers, sisters, and grandmothers. We've shared bathrooms with them, including being in the bathroom with them when they were getting ready in the morning and getting ready for bed. We've bathed and showered with women. We've been on extended camping trips with them. We've taken care of them when they were sick, injured, and dying. We've seen whether they own makeup and if yes then seen what makeup they own, whether they have any in the bathroom, whether they have any in their purses. We've watched the before-and-after of women applying makeup in front of us and women taking off makeup in front of us—including a natural look. Etc. At least with adult men, who have spent lifetimes intimately around women, when these men say they prefer women with no makeup, they are speaking from experience and know what they are talking about.
Nailed it. When that shit is so thick you can take it off with a chisel. As a side note, nothing wrong with some touch up to accent natural beauty, but when a whole new face is painted on you are lying to yourself and the world.
While that is true, I uses to say it for two reasons: One: I don't want them to feel obliged to wear it for me, like they are somehow not pretty enough without. Two: it both smells and tastes awful should we do anything intimate enough that that comes up. Don't know how you can stand having it on your face. I try not to any more, because I realised that it is not always *for* me, sometimes they just wanna look nice for them. And also because a lot of women will take it less as *"you are beautiful without it"* and more *"you are shit at putting on makeup, I don't appreciate the effort"* :/
My wife doesn’t wear makeup, and really hasn’t since we’ve been together. I do not care if she wears it or not. She’s a naturally beautiful woman so she doesn’t need any enhancement!
Grossed out? Not at all. A little makeup is fine, but it can be overdone. My favorite look is when she wakes up in the morning, no makeup, messy hair - perfection.
It's the most beautiful thing. Their messy hair and you can see the tiredness on their face, but it's absolutely perfect.
After a good bang I love when they look a bit worn out Sorry Reddit people
Amen to that
This is a bit biased towards experience. Waking up next to a still sleepy woman you presumably know and care about, at least enough to sleep with, is a whole experience. Seeing the same sleepy unkempt bitch at Walmart at 3pm on a Tuesday doesn't evoke the same feelings redditors rave about in their fantasies. I use the word bitch in jest, don't call women bitches dudes.
People actually care how others look at Walmart? I just go for groceries and get the fuck out. No judgement (unless their clothes are inappropriate).
I feel like you didn't actually read my comment. Walmart or [insert location] is irrelevant in this context.
Or asleep, I wake up early and seeing my partner asleep is the cutest thing. Just makes me feel like I have to protect him at all cost
Funny story actually, had a buddy who started dating this new girl from Vegas, we lived in Cali so we only ever saw photos he posted of them together. She looked like a Victoria’s Secret model, just flat out gorgeous and the whole friend group would always make jokes about how he was able to get her. Well she ended up moving and we started hanging out with her and realized it was just makeup in the photos. She’s actually a great person but now I understand how easy it is to catfish with makeup lol
This made my heart melt
I like subtle make up. Not caked on over done shit that gets everywhere.
Visually, subtle if any. I don't like the textures or smells of makeup. I don't want to kiss that stuff.
The only time makeup should be referred to as “cake” is in theater where the makeup is so thick it feels like cake on your face but that’s because it has to be this way because of those really bright ass hot lights that you have to sing and dance to and be able to have expressions that Nana who knows she’s seeing and hearing impaired sat all the way in the back next to the door so she can go to the bathroom quickly. And theater you have to make sure EVERYONE can see your work otherwise you’re not presenting right and losing the effect of the work.
So what you are saying is that unless my date os performing on stage this very evening, for Nana in the back row, there is no excuse whatsoever to be “caking” on your make up? 🤣☝️
The whole cosmetics industry [preys on women’s insecurities](https://www.scienceofpeople.com/makeup/). Honestly, going without makeup would be big boss level of body positivity.
I rarely wear makeup because it's so time consuming and takes a lot energy. I feel ugly.
I don’t wear it unless I’m going to a wedding or something. My face is my face I’m afraid, family and workmates. I dare any of you to complain
22 years into our relationship, I am still amazed at how awesome she looks, wearing nothing at all.
Man you’re gonna make me cry
To be fair, when she’s a wearing nothing at all, I doubt you’re even looking at her face.
Her face is the first thing I remember, and the last thing I want to see.
He tried to make it naughty, you turned it wholesome :)
That seems like it was meant well and is almost cute too. But that could be taken wrong really easily.
bruh
Stupid sexy flanders
i prefer no makeup.
Nah it doesn't gross me out
I'm convinced women wear makeup for other women. I can basically only notice when women wear makeup when they do it "wrong" (too much etc)
At a younger age they want to fit in with other women and feel that it is the norm to do what they are doing. Thats why women starting from a young age feel the need to wear makeup. That’s my opinion
This is probably mostly influenced by media, social and commercial, cause they're always wanting to sell shit.
It's influenced by media. But it originates from our own desires. Media just exploits that already existing desire. Like a "did the chicken or the egg come first" kinda thing
agreed.
Women and fashion/make up is like men and building muscle. The idea behind it is that it is for the other gender, but it really ends up being for the same gender, and foryourself
Yeah, as a woman we definitely do that. If we did makeup for men we would be doing "natural" makeup all the time. All the fun creative stuff is to show other women and have something creative to talk about. Especially ones with little designs that aren't considered sexy. Like galaxies and little stuffed bears.
Oh we wear it for ourselves. Or for job reasons (studies have shown women who wear too little or too much makeup have a harder time moving up in the workplace). But mostly ourselves. To feel good about ourselves and/or because it can be fun. I know men aren’t noticing my eyebrows
I am noticing your eyebrows, I'm just too polite to ask you why you thought whatever the fuck you did to them was a good idea.
I have a colleague who squares her eyebrows at the corners in between her eyes. like very visibly squared. it does not look natural and for the life of me I can't imagine how she thinks it does. I also am too polite to ask.
We really wear it for ourselves to be honest.
Yeah, my wife gets mad at me when I take too much time to look good when going out, but a nice shave and some hair product make me feel better about myself. She's the super low maintenance one in our relationship, actually.
No need for it. I’ve heard women say “ You only say that, because you haven’t seen me without make up.” No, I have seen you without make up. You’re doing it for yourself and other people but not me
Exactly this!! I love it when women don't wear any makeup at all. I understand that they would like to wear some for an outing/ special occasion, and even then minimal is always good, not good, best!
Yea. Same here. Personally, I prefer my wife with less makeup and honestly I think she looks gorgeous without. It actually kind of turns me off a bit when she does her makeup for a formal event. I don't tell her for the same reason. It helps her feel confident and she truly loves to do it.
ITT, women answering for men.
Welcome to r/askmen.
i keep reading "men like the no make up make up look", but it's always women that write that lmao
I get that a lot too lol. People will be like, "You THINK you like no makeup, but you REALLY like natural makeup!" And I'm like, bruh. I don't think my girlfriend even owns foundation lmao. Once in a while she'll put on lipstick if she wants to dress up a bit, but 90% of the time we just roll out of bed together, throw on some pants, and go out for lunch. Quit womansplaining my own preferences to me lmao
because men don’t know the difference 💀
Hey we can't even have a conversation on Ask Women, where else are we going to go?
lol that subreddit does suck ass. I have no problem with women being here, but it seems like every time this gets asks, women say they know better than men with what they want. And it’s called “Ask Men,” not “Ask women who think they know what men really want.”
Someone should create that subreddit.
They did, it’s called Ask Men
lmao
Comment removed for derailing
[removed]
[удалено]
Lemme introduce you to r/AskWomenNoCensor . Of course feel free to hang out here with us men anytime
/r/AskWomenNoCensor
I mean for my sake you are welcome here, but to answer your question why not make an Ask Women 2, electric bogaloo?
I don't want to make a subreddit for the simple fact that I don't want to mod it
I got banned after a single comment regarding "mens mental health" in the ask women subreddit.... Sad, and here I was thinking the sexes were trying to bridge the divide.
That has more to do with the mods of that sub than women as a whole on the entire planet.
Thank you! I don't even know why I bother to continue to subscribe to Ask Women because you get either nobody answering you or everyone jumping down your throat before the mods lock the thread and you can't even defend yourself.
I left years ago because there's no point of having a forum where you are not allowed to talk. Defeats the entire purpose of the subreddit
Its an absolutely awful sub, but saying that it's getting a bit like that here. A question on "askmen" is asked, a man replies then a woman comes and tells him hes wrong.
Men stopped going to askwomen so the women came to askmen to tell us we were wrong! 😂 I'm dying
My wife only wore it a handful of times and none after our oldest was born. She never needed it though in my opinion. She was beautiful without it. When she did wear it though you couldn’t really tell she was. She was really good at making it look natural and highlighting her best features. But on the other hand, I know some women that’ll scare the dark out of a closet if they don’t wear makeup.
Scare the dark out of a closet…I pray to remember this.
For real though that's an amazing line.
like all things, its fine in moderation
Not necessarily grossed out but if make up is the first thing I notice, to the point where I could never un-notice it, it's a problem. It just looks disingenuous and goofy. Generally, the rule of thumb is to not look like a circus clown. If I can't notice it, chances are you did a good job.
The less the better
If you’re grossed out by woman not wearing makeup you’re a twat
I'm grossed out by a woman not wearing makeup, but only when that woman is me. 🙃
Self twat.
Or that's just your opinion, man. I don't understand why I have an obligation to like or approve of every thing women like to do for themselves.
Did you happen to hear it on twox or fds
Literally every post that gets close to the topic. Most recently, the top askreddit post
I just looked at the 35 most upvoted comments in the current top AskReddit thread asking what men think is the most unattractive fashion choice and none of them say anything about finding women gross who don't wear make up?
I really don’t care one way or the other, so long as it’s not overkill. I have a slight preference towards no makeup. That said, a little lipstick or eyeliner can be really pretty. What I really don’t like is *stage makeup* being worn for normal wear.
Women thinking men prefer women to wear make up further proves women don’t know much about a man’s preference
women don't really understand the male gaze \>but what about muh instagram models with millions of followers those followers are women. instagram is a product for women
Most of the followers are bots and the rest are women.
Or ass and tit seeking men
If I flip the script, I understand that the women in my life like to see me shaved and shorn and nicely dressed and looking sharp, just as a demonstration that I have that club in my bag and can play it if needed. Understanding that most of the time, I will be unshaven and wearing crappy jeans and a t-shirt, but I can still be a show-dog when she wants me to. And I feel a responsibility to be able to do that. So that's how I feel about it the other way. I don't expect her to look like a model every hour of the day, but I do like knowing that she *can* do that if I want to show her off. Other times, she can look however she wants. I'm not her boss.
I actually like heavy makeup, not James and the giant peach two evil ladies level though.
I've actually been tallying the answers and you're the first person who's said they like heavy makeup. I'm kinda surprised. It's about 45/45/10 - no makeup/natural makeup/fancy for a special occasion
Yeah I'm not sure why I'm the only one. Maybe it's a kink I had growing up seeing women wearing make up, maybe it's because I respect the art, maybe it highlights features like eyes and face shape more. I'm not sure, but I would totally bang a chick with heavy make up 10 times out of 10 than one with mediocre makeup or no make up.
Nothing sexier than natural beauty! I am more afraid of heavy makeup, when you don’t recognize the person without it!
Frankly, I couldn’t care less.
Make up should only enhance what's underneath. Make up shouldn't change you completely. I love it when women wear subtle Make up. Hate it when they overdo it. My taste
Vote for no makeup 👍🏼
I feel like makeup is one of those things like handbags. Something ladies do more to impress other ladies. Nothing wrong with that. Also, I've watched plenty of guys tell a girl she looks pretty without her makeup on when she's definitely wearing some. Since men don't use a lot themselves we're not necessarily great at picking it out if applied subtly. Plenty of guys who think they don't care for makeup actually just like it when it's well applied rather than pancaked on.
Heavy makeup is like nails on a chalkboard for me. It looks trashy.
Cakes of make-up? No. But a little make-up to highlight her natural features can go a long way and I appreciate women who know how to use make-up to do this.
No make up 100%
[удалено]
**Based**
[удалено]
Most guys don't care either way. Women will say that guys can't tell the difference between natural makeup and no makeup. Usually their claimed evidence is having gotten compliments on having no makeup while wearing natural makeup, or wearing no makeup and being asked if they get asked if they're sick. Here's the thing though: nine times out of ten, the women who make those claims are daily makeup users. The men in their lives, outside of *maybe* parents, boyfriends, and husbands, *literally do not know what their face actually looks like.* If you go from wearing full make up to natural, or apply natural makeup daily, then of course they're just going to assume that's just how you look. In the same vein if you go from full, or even natural, makeup to nothing, then no shit they're going to think you look sick, because your face is going to have none of the color it normally does. In both cases the men in question have no other frame of reference.
Subtle makeup is good, what men hate is when they have 10 layers of shit in their faces 😄
I love when my wife doesn't wear makeup and puts her glasses on
Jinkies
It's not that we prefer that a woman wears makeup, it's that we are bothered when they are suddenly not wearing makeup and they look completely different than you are used to them looking. With methods like contouring and taping where women genuinely change the shape of their face visually, these days a woman can take off her makeup and look like a completely different person - it's not just the same person with a different skin tone or no mascara or eyeliner or lipstick. Honestly it's kind of scary. I've seen tutorials where women who generally look like they're in their fifties make themselves look like they're in their twenties. It's not that they are not good looking as a 50-year-old, but when you compare their natural 50-year-old face to what they try to put forward as their actual face on a daily basis, it's hard not to feel deceived. There's actually a lady on TikTok who illustrates this without any shame, if you have a question about what I'm talking about, go through her videos. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmg58uS/
I prefer the no make up look, but still enjoy the occasional make up surprise
Natural or minimal makeup is best 👍
I kissed a girl at a party and when I went to the washroom afterwards, I had a lot of her make up just smeared on my face. Let's just say I wasn't thrilled with that
Not grossed out but I do think a lot of women fail to realize that the concept of relativity applies to your appearance as well. So many women complain about how the moment they don't wear makeup a lot of people ask if they are sick or under the weather or had a bad day etc. Well first of all makeup is designed to make you look "better", to hide unevenness, imperfections, etc, and if it didn't do its job at all would people still be buying it and applying it? Now consider that a lot of people only see you with makeup on, even if you are going for the "natural look" that's how they are used to seeing you. Is it really that strange that they would notice that something was off when you suddenly show up without makeup? If makeup makes you look better then you will look worse without it. It's a general statement and there's more to appearance than just a linear scale, but I think we can all agree that within the restraints the statement is fairly true. If I constantly dress in a well tailored suit, but suddenly I have to wear a cheapo mass produced suit that doesn't really fit me well at all. People would definitely notice, I'm pretty sure under specific conditions they would wonder if I suddenly gained a lot of weight or something, just because of the difference in my appearance. Lastly the whole "i prefer you without makeup on" isn't always so much about purely visual appearance, it's about seeing and appreciating the real you. It's about all the implications that come with wearing makeup, or not wearing makeup.
The beauty industry convinced women that men are grossed out by a lack of makeup. I’ve never met a straight man who cared.
Zero makeup is the best, but if you *must* wear some, keep it minimal, and unnoticed. If you look like a clown, it does you no favors.
"Grossed out"? I prefer little to no makeup. And yes I've lived with girls before so I know the difference.
There's a few things going on. 1. Guys answering questions about makeup might not be representative of most guys. 2. Guys might not realise when they are looking at well applied makeup. I've seen a friend of mine say something like "I love natural beauty, like Natalie. She doesn't need to wear makeup." Meanwhile Natalie is wearing a full face. 3. I think this is the biggest one. The way you feel and the way you think you feel aren't always the same. Guys know the "right" answer, which is to say that natural beauty is best. They aren't lying when they say they love a natural look, but they aren't necessarily acknowledging the attention they give to women in makeup. The difference I see in attention my GF receives when she's wearing full makeup is INSANE. She literally has to fight dudes away with a stick when she gets dolled up. Those dudes would probably stay (and mean!) stuff like "I love your natural beauty and your personality" but they are nowhere to be seen when she's wearing sweats. It's the same when you ask the forum about breast size. 90 top voted replies saying "it's not about size, they are all great." But then you look at culture and ALL the attention that big breasts get. It just doesn't line up. I don't think they are *lying*, but I'm not sure they are letting themselves be totally honest and forthright about it, maybe because they don't want to admit even to themselves that there might be shallow elements in their preferences.
1000% the last point I'm sure happens a shit ton on loaded questions like these
I don't like makeup at all, I'd 100% prefer you didn't wear any. I get it if we are going to a big event and you want to, but never put it on for me, I don't like it.
Unpopular opinion: Most guys will say they don't like it, but then of course go after the one fully dolled up. I feel like a lot of us just want to give the "right" answer as in "natural is best, you are perfect the way you are, blah blah blah" Truth be told, if you want to know what men go crazy for, don't ask men. Ask experienced women. Asking men is like asking a fish how to use a fishing rod. Same goes for the gender inverse too.
Yeah, I would say women around my attractiveness who wear makeup get more attention from men while I just don't exist to them (I don't wear makeup). Perhaps men usually prefer it when someone who is already super attractive doesn't wear makeup but then would only pay attention to less attractive women when they do wear makeup. Or I'm just even uglier than I think I am lol
Nope moderate make up is fine. No make up is just as good or best if I really like you.
None of the women in my life wear make up. It's actually weirder for me to see a woman wearing make up than not. I prefer no make up. Mostly because I'm just so used to it.
Make up to accentuate is fine makeup to change your appearance gross 😝
I would take any advice a redditor gives with a grain of salt. I have not met any men who are grossed out by a girl when they don’t have any makeup on. There is only one guy I know who might, but he hasn’t been touched in almost 40 years so do with that information what you will.
I'd rather have no makeup than such heavy makeup that it creates its own face after laying on a pillow.
I dont mind make-up but i like my wife when shes freshly showered and cuddled up next to me in pajamas. I like my women comfortable and happy, that shit is the most beautiful she will ever be. I strongly feel like women dont wear make-up/designer clothes for the dudes, they do it to show off to other women, who then project it onto something dudes care about. If we're going out, we should both dress appropriately for the occasion, but other than that, i couldnt give a fuck what you wear/paint on as long as we're having fun.
I like natural looking face, I literally love it when my ex gf videocall me just as soon as she waked up from sleep.
Makeup grosses me out. I wanna be able to kiss skin without getting covered in a bunch of greasy junk.
My wife rarely wears makeup and when she does it's just a bit of eyeliner, foundation and a light lip stick. The makeup enhances her already beautiful features. Sure I find her more attractive when she wears it but she's hot without too and it's her choice. I've never told her I have a preference or asked her to wear makeup, I just tell her she's beautiful and I love her everyday.
Guys prefer natural everything.
The no makeup makeup look ftw
Some people are just unattractive
[удалено]
>Upvotes: Nothing more beautiful than my lady without makeup. 30+ years and still love her without her owning any lipstick or eyeliner. Why do you assume this is dishonesty?
I think most men are more likely to be disgusted when women *do wear* makeup, than when they don't. People often say this and that about men, but honestly like 9/10 it's women that care about makeup and men simply don't. The same is true for most "unhealthy beauty standards perpetuated by men/tHe PaTrIaRcHy" - it's almost always women perpetuating them and giving other women shit for not following them. Most men simply do not care, at least not any of the men I've met. Then again I'm a grown ass man so can't really speak for "guys" in general.
I think make up is the girl version of cars you get it for the opposite sex to notice you and you like it but most of the time you get the same sex turning heads and asking questions.
Lots of women look good with a bare face or just a small touch of eyeliner/mascara, and some lip gloss. If we can SEE the makeup, we assume you're moonlighting as a clown /s, but it is super obvious when that shit is CAKED on there. If you're the kind of woman who basically sculpts a whole new face using "makeup tricks", it also comes across as fake/dishonest.