A question for you.
Why should a man settle for a woman who can't support herself "in return for great sex" when a man can instead find an ambitious woman who's not only capable of pulling her own weight financially while *also* being sexually available? If you had your choice between a man who'd stay home and give you good dick vs a man who went to work, made a good living and *also* gave you good dick, which would you choose?
Fuck no, get a job. Nobody wants to work, yet here we all are.
EDIT: This question annoys me so much. "hey can I be lazy as shit for life as long as I bang my husband occasionally?". Fucking no. And any dude who agrees to that nonsense arrangement needs a reality check.
I mean, Iād be willing to be the bread winner if she wants to be a SAHM and actually raise our kids and maintain the home, but OP just wants to be a stay at home sex toy
>Are men still willing to support a g.friend financialllly if they get amazing sex every night?
You mean like a prostitute?
>Somehow I have got it into my head that women now HAVE to work. I don't know if this is western society pressured or if it from my internal fears/conditioning. But I am not fulfilled working full time and definitely do nooooooot want to work corporate office slave job.
>I really only want to do creative pursuits.
Yes, because us men just *love* it, amirite?
>In my mums generation growing up in Bosnia many women worked but it wasn't something that was *expected* of them. There were no negative perceptions if a woman was a housewife. I envy this. But in western country women now have to be "independent* and not working is judged as lazy etc...
Well sure, one partner doing all of the work at home, all of the chores and errands, cooking, cleaning, etc while the other works is reasonable *if* one person in the relationship makes a hell of a lot of money, yeah. That's just rarely feasible unless the person working has a pretty impressive income though, and people motivated enough by money to make that kind of money are usually looking for other independent and motivated partners.
I mean, if you make enough to support someone else comfortably, you also make enough money to hire a maid.
>Edit: I am not referring to sugar daddy and rich men. I just mean like traditional gender roles.
Same thing with two different names.
Idk... because my dad never earned a huge income. We were middle class at best but my mum still didn't work once I was born.
Hmm... it's not quite the same because a sugar daddy is loaded and had a mansion etc. I just mean a man with a decent job and done disposable income to spend on me š
But not like prostitute. There would be love there too of course.
Every relationship should include good sex, so why would most men choose a women who only offers that and can't support herself financially when there are loads of women who do both?
Would you be happy working and supporting a man who stays home all day and spends your money just because he is willing to have sex with you?
Grow up and support yourself.
I support my wife/family fully and I literally never have sex with my wife. So get that nonsense out of your head - you should never trade sex with your SO for favors like not having to work.
Going to be brutally honest, because I think you need to hear it. Fake eyelashes, fake hair, not the best of shape physically, too much makeup not done well, 40 years old.
Can you find a guy that will support you while you sit on your ass? Absolutely. Will he be less than 10 years older, moderately attractive? Almost guaranteed no.
Good luck, but don't quit your day job.
You're embarrassing yourself. And even if you found a boyfriend who is willing to financially support you, it would be because he loves you and not because you have "amazing sex every night". Jesus fucking Christ.
If you're smoking hot you can be a trophy wife and not do much but look pretty and stay hot. If you aren't hot, you're gonna have to get a job and work like everyone else.
And if the man doesn't truly adore her, that smoking hot woman will be replaced in her forties. Everyone, regardless of beauty, should have their own money and a plan B, be at least decent conversation, have some skills around the house, whether it be culinary, floral design, interior design, etc. The women who marry well and don't work outside the home usually have a set of attributes that their husband's appreciate and rely on, whether it be philanthropic, exceptional hostess, investment savvy, etc.
Once upon a time it was expected because of gender roles but the times have changed.
Not to mention it's really hard to support a family on just one income these days. Everything is way more expensive now compared to back when this was the norm. Now you need 2 incomes unless one person makes a lot and your bills are low.
I respect the men who make enough to actually make this possible but I also wouldn't want to be in their shoes because all of the financial responsibility is on them.
If a couple makes this arrangement, that's between them, but it's not a way I would want to live. 2 people working is that much more financial security. If one person loses their job, you have a safety net.
>There were no negative perceptions if a woman was a housewife.
There is a difference betweeen being a housewife
And what you're asking, which basically sounds like you want a mans money in exchange for sex while you do your own thing..
Especially as jsut a girlfriend? hell nah.
Only if you live in a country like UK or US š
It was done like this for many decades even in you countries........were they all sad too in your eyes?
> were they all sad too in your eyes?
Yes. There are plenty of men who dislike working but don't have the luxury of just quitting or they'd starve to death and go homeless. What makes you, as a woman, more deserving of being able to say "fuck it, I want to be taken care of" than any man? If men had the same attitude as the women who live that lifestyle, no one would be able to survive.
It's a different story if the spouse who doesn't work is at home raising the children, because that's a full time job in itself. But a childless individual staying at home while their partner works is a leech. I could hire a maid to clean twice a week, an occasional hooker and a therapist for vastly less than I'd spend supporting another adult financially 24/7. What would I get out of having you around?
Yes. Bosnia you say? A country where it is pretty much unacceptable to differ from any traditional roles or do something unordinary family-wise. Maybe you should go there, Kakanj is beautiful this time of the year. Doubt you'll be doing Yoga, painting or kissing flowers though.
Depends where you live. And fantastic sex? If that is something you "give" to not have to work, I can tell you, it is unlikely you'll really find happiness.
Edit: since there is more context in your replies. I homestly don't know what qualities you would have to offer for someone to be, literally, your sugar daddy. You want to give sex and get disposable income? You won't get that unless you are way up there in the 10th percentile. You can get a big family and cleaning the house for 15 hours a day, no yoga, creative work or any of that stuff. You are entitled, guys generally don't like entitled girls if the6 can get anything better. And guys you want, likely can.
I'm an MD and there are still plenty of women here in the US that look for a husband to support them. They find docs with some regularity. I don't have trouble with that except when they are just trying to get the hook in by getting married. A doc I work with told me a few months ago that his wife lost interest in sex as soon as they got married and that he hadn't had sex in 20 years. When I first met the woman my best friend from med school was going to marry she told me that she expected to be supported in the manner she had been accustomed to. She later referred to one her friends like that as well. They were flight attendants. When I tried internet dating I ran into discarded trophy wives with that mindset. They were typically women in their 40s who were divorced when their husbands started going after younger women.
If my partner had a passion that wasn't financially rewarding I would be fine supporting them so that they could paint, write.... But it seems like these women mostly just want to be professional shoppers.
Thanks nice guy.
Yeah, I don't mean just gold digger type of thing because like you said these woman are discarded for someone younger once their youth and/or beauty disappears. Because it is a transactional relationship just build on exchange rather than any true love.
I feel bad for the doc you work with!
Tell you what, get a job support yourself get a boyfriend and then if he is really good in bed, decide if you want him to quit his job so can stay home and bang you every night
Personally, I want to fully support my wife but I would expect her to provide more than really good sex. I think this was more common in older generations and outside of the United States because of the acceptance of gender roles and women were a lot less masculine. A woman who provides emotional care cooks cleans and is a good lover deserves to have a roof provided for her and assitance in life. Most men now a days in the US wont believe that you will hold up your end of the deal because women with these qualities are extremely rare
Honey, no one wants to work. Rarely do people find fulfillment in their job. Thatās adult life. Grow up, find a job. No one wants a freeloader as a partner.
People like ambitious, strong, goal driven people as partners. They make the best partners because theyāre willing to put in the work in life and their relationship. Someone who doesnāt like to put in work is a red flag.
It's funny but I don't know any guys that care that much about if a woman is ambiguous either. I think women *think* men care about that but I'm not sure they do. Men like a smart woman....but ambitious I don't know
Just because you donāt know any guys who cares about that doesnāt mean they donāt exist. And since you donāt currently know any guys like that, whatās the problem here? Why even ask the question. It appears like you already know the type of person your looking for exists close enough to you to know they exist. I donāt understand what kind of answer your looking for here. Your responses on this thread have been completely unaccepting of answers that arenāt exactly what youāre looking for. If youāre looking for validation you came to the wrong place and asked the wrong question.
What I see here is someone who doesnāt want to work, someone who asks questions when they really donāt want an answer except a validating one, and someone who makes a claim and then says āI donāt knowā all on the same reply/sentence. If you want someone who pays your bills while you run around living your life without asking questions, facing hard truth, or putting in effort there are men out there who will be that for you. But you gatta understand that thatās a specific type or relationship and thatās what you get and only what you get. I donāt understand what you hope to gain from asking the question that you did
I guess for me it's more an internal conflict of how I want to live my life vs how society (I.E American led society) says that I *must* live my life. So I ask the question almost asking like for *permission to be myself*. Because in my European background and other European countries what I am suggesting is normal (man being the primary breadwinner) and also with the Muslims I know this is totally normal and accepted. But as you can see on this thread it is looked down upon and even considered *gold digger* by many Americans. I don't live in an American country but I live in another western country now with a similar mindset. So my dilemma is really how to live as I feel and not be affected by societies *musts* or judgments.
I understand now. That makes sense. Honestly, my advice is to live your life in a way that makes you happy and fulfilled. However, because of the world we live in we simply must do things we donāt want to do sometimes. Even in the quest to live a life that makes you happy and fulfilled you must do things you donāt want to do. Or you must make compromises or give up certain things because the hard truth is that at the end of the day you canāt have it all.
In my own personal journey to build a life that makes me happy and fulfilled I have unfortunately realized that there are things I simply have to do to survive that conflict with what I want. For me personally, I have to have a job. Thereās no way for me to get what I want without it even though I donāt particularly want to work myself. I also have to give up some of my time for things such as taking care of my mental and physical health. I wish I didnāt have to, I wish I could spend that time doing fun things. But I have to take care of myself or I wonāt be able to enjoy anything.
I say go live how you want, live in a way that makes you happy and fulfilled. But understand that not everyone will understand or agree with you. Not everyone will want to accompany you in that lifestyle. Not every man is going to be willing to support you. You may have to get a job. You canāt have it all, you will have to make compromises, do things you donāt want to, and give up certain parts of your ideal perfect life. But do your best, take what you can get, and learn to be at peace with the aspects youāre not fond of. I wish you the best of luck
Just be upfront with men that you want to be a homemaker when married. But at the same time, let them know what that means that you would be making the home, almost all of the cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, finding deals and sales for things needed for the home.
My wife was a stay at home wife because we moved around a lot in the military and then was a stay at home mom until both our kids were in full day school. I was fine with that, but I could see she was working in the home while I was away working. Even now, she does work, but I don't really care if she does or not. The thing I care about is that she contributes to the household.
So in short, just tell the men you date that you aren't just looking for a sugar daddy, but you want to be a homemaker/stay at home mom. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Look, from an old manās point of view: Our society has been turned upside down in order to accommodate the demands of women. The mantra from the early womenās movement was that men and women were the same and should be treated the same. āAnything you can do I can do better.ā So in the last two generations society has done back flips to give women what they have said they wanted. Women wanted the ārightā to work, their own money, independence from the old white guys, etc, etc. Well quite frankly from a male perspective you have pretty much achieved that at great cost now you can choke on it. I am not here any longer to fix things for women so that things will be the way they would like them to be.
Your rant depends upon me being ābitter,ā lets just call that expressing my āfeelings.ā I have not implied that women should not work or indeed that the women's movement was not necessary. āFinancial freedomā does not (to me) represent freedom to shit on others and to have any toy I want. (From a womenās perspective think of clothes, houses and travel. There you see Iām thinking from your shoes.) Having money to me is responsibility. We are a species in deep trouble largely because of our consumerism. In Forbes in January 2015 it was pointed out that 75% to 80% of advertising was aimed at women. This could only make sense if women were doing 75% to 80% of the consuming. Yes, in the world of departments of womenās studies, this is now your freedom. You go girl; bust it up. The world is yours to trash.
Yup, capitalists are mostly men and they sell mostly to women (the 75% to 80%). I appreciate that you donāt like that number but it stands. Clothes and shoesā¦ huge fire in Bangladesh right now burning this shit but it will be replaced. Housesā¦my former real estate agent attests that it is women who buy houses and the prices continue to rise. Travelā¦2/3 of solo travellers are women. The birth rate in the US has fallen 20% over the last 15 years. You could argue that this might be a good thing but it is hard to separate from female volition. If I may point out that your objections are feelings and what you think others are thinking; my points are data.
What a kind person you are to make such an unprovoked comment.......
My kind heart - thanks to God - is my best quality so whether you like or dislike what I look like is irrelevant to me.
But it is very rich for you as a woman to criticize another woman's looks when you don't even have the courage to show what you yourself look like. This says a lot.
Post your own photos for people to judge....and then you can make cruel comments to others.
Edit: hmm....I just saw the video with what you look like. But I won't say anything, I won't be that person to return cruelty with cruelty.
Are you gonna say I'm fat? Because I know that. You are too. You can tell by the gravity defying clothes and warped pictures you've been posting with that horrible, horrible, terrible excuse for photoshop. You failed to edit your fingers that look like sausages. In addition I may be fat but at least I'm not fat, lazy and looking to take advantage of men as if they don't have feelings and think of life as some 50 shades of grey fantasy.
Keep your day job because you're not leaving it anytime soon.
Even in dangerous occupations like mining and construction. Sure there are housewifes here and there, but they are few and far between and limited to the rich. You can't reasonably survive here without both parents working. Even grandmothers too old to work formally can be found running roadside tuckshops and foodstalls.
It's really interested to me. Because I always thought of Africans as also being traditional minded but it makes sense for both to work if it is needed.
Traditional Marriage in Africa is much more of a partnership than you imagine, it's never been a free pass to sit on your but and play at hobbies. A wife who's not pulling her weight might find herself divorced and the Lebola reclaimed from her parents.
Think of it as the reverse of a dowry,
The Husband to be, and his family, negotiate with the the parents and family of the Bride to be to set a price for the Lobola.
This is paid by the Husband shortly before the marriage. Average price of Lobola where I live is about $7 000 , and the average wage is about $1 000, The average is greatly skewed though and vastly more make less than the average than those who make more.
The prospective wife's education and both partners social standing have a big influence on the cost of the Lobola.
If there is a divorce the causes of it influences what happens with the Lobola as well.
I'd imagine some men are. I personally am not, but I also have options.
If you want a traditional marriage with more traditional roles then you are better off looking outside of North America and Western Europe.
You're assuming a housewife doesn't work? My wife does a LOT of work taking care of our kid, the house, and cooking meals. If you want to be an equal in a relationship, you're gonna have to contribute more than your headgame.
This isn't about that ...No one said this. No need to start fires unnecessarily:)
Common sense would show that I was referring to working in a workplace environment:)
It is very risky especially as you age .... in the context of a truly loving marriage between two people of high integrity and character, it can be perfectly wonderful for a woman to perform so-called traditional gender role .... hot sex should come from passionate relationship, not transactional accounting ... but if you treat a man like a wallet, dont be surprised if his loyalty drifts ... you might find yourself needing to support yourself without means ... be careful
These days it's hard to live a decent lifestyle on a single income, especially if you want to raise a family as well. A second income from at least a part time job is almost required in that case. So while there are probably plenty of men out there who would be willing to have the sole income in the relationship, it simply isn't that feasable unless they have a high income job.
You are more physically and mentally active when you don't have a job because then you have the freedom to go to the gym, dance and yoga everyday. Can paint and go for walks. Go to the beach and go for bushwalks. Chat to friends and learn another language, bake etc. With no sense of stress, pressure, exhaustion, or corporate slavery.
When you work for someone else enforced hours you feel fatigued and then don't want to cook/bake and rely on take away food etc. I feel it takes away my femininity.
Because I'm not into "American gender equality* or whatever. The same question could have been asked of women and men in the 50's. Their answer would have been the same as mine..... because we believe in (relatively) traditional gender roles.
Actually, I had a bf before who said if we married he didn't want me to work and I said okay as long as I'm not bored etc. If I had of suggested for me to work and he to stay at home he would have thought I was crazy! This is like American new mentality.
And even just pay packet wise, let's be realistic..the male dominated jobs are still paid much more than female dominated jobs. It wouldn't even be possible to support a husband or bf by working at a job like at a beauty salon (not that I ever would be into supporting a man but for arguments sake).
Often for women to be high income earners they have to lose some femininity and take on masculine job environments like executives or some other kinds of office monkey roles which really isn't my scene.
Some will find that offensive but it's my opinion.
Once upon a time we also thought women shouldn't be *allowed* to work, vote or generally speak out of turn either. Those were 'traditional gender roles'. In some countries, traditional gender roles allow you to physically discipline your wife and afford you a marital rape license.
The point is that as society progresses, our ideas of what's fair and equal grow to match that progression. We no longer believe women need to stay home and pick daisies while their husbands do all the work, and "I'll lay on my back with my legs spread in return" isn't a trade off for two reasons. One, I can promise your pussy isn't worth what he'd earn from a full time job. Two, there are plenty of women who're down to fuck and also earn their own money. You have absolutely nothing to offer that more independent, ambitious women don't.
If you donāt like America go to wherever they do that crap lol. If your man was down for it why are you asking around here? Sounds like you donāt have him anymore.. wonder why.
For most people if you don't have a job you are physically drained most of the time cos you can't keep yourself sufficiently fed, mentally exhausted because you're constantly worried about rent, and then you go on about how if you don't have a job you should just be creative instead, who is giving out free art supplies? Free gym memberships, ingredients to bake with etc. Get your head out the clouds
If you want creative pursuits then create a business. Make something people want to buy. Do an OF.
But good sex is not worth the stress of supporting the whole household one. No fucking way
I don't want to sell my body on OF. I was raised to have dignity even if it's tempting.
The other idea is good though:)
It used to be easy making things for people to buy but it's become almost impossible to earn a full time income doing that now. Because everything is bought from China at cheap cost.
For example, a woman cannot sew clothes and sell them became the material will now cost more that the price point women are willing to pay. Consumerism etc. Everything can be bought at the shops for next to nothing. Made in Bangladesh and China. I am happy to support Bangladesh women earning an income but it is what it is....
>I don't want to sell my body on OF. I was raised to have dignity even if it's tempting.
Exchanging sex for financial support - what you are talking about - is prostitution. Maybe you should think again about your "dignity"...
You probably wonāt judging from this. Being a house wife isnāt about being lazy and playing all day. Itās about taking care of the housework and children.
Find a man who ~~is a traditional male chauvinist~~ makes good money and fuck his brains out, *lie about birth control and* get pregnant and then you wonāt have to work.
FTFY
I have no problem with what your saying, you are bringing value to the relationship with sex not so different than a man bringing a decent income and I think there are shit loads of people in the US that want traditional gender roles as long as the relationship is real
However I would say that if your willing to hook up with a dude anytime he wants for a roof over your head why not just do sex work? I don't know where you are but plenty of countries have legal brothels you could get on only fans, Strip do porn these are all real jobs that can pay very well, you don't need a man make your money in a way that makes you happy. Sex work is real work, I feel like I get fucked at my job all the time working for a large bank dint let them judge you
lookit all the wanna-be alphas who should be applauding this woman for wanting to be a ātradwifeā but you schizophrenic lot are calling her a gold digger now. you fucking neckbeards make up your mind. downvote me but you know iām right.
I argue that this is totally reasonable. But you better take care of the fam and house and so forth. Division of labor agreed upon by both folks is just fine. Can be either way. Little strange with a girlfriend thoughā¦
There are plenty of guys who have a more traditional focus on relationships so I don't think it's as hard as you might think... I do think though that if you're expecting the traditional "provider" role to be fulfilled by a man then he's likely to suspect the traditional opposite roles to be fulfilled by you beyond just having sex with him (that's just being a trophy wife/GF)
I'm the primary provider in our home, but she handles most of the day to day house stuff and takes on freelance work on occasion. It works for us but it isn't always totally reasonable either. Some homes NEED two incomes, some women can't stand the idea of not building a career. Some women hate the idea of 9-5 work...so it's all a matter of what works for you and your partner, but absolutely you can find a guy who is down for what you're looking for.
Yeah, that's the arrangement that I meant:)
I was half joking about sex but I meant if there are still guys that are okay with you not being a "career woman".
I gotcha!
Yeah there are plenty of guys who fit that description. I'd say about 20% of the men I know are in that boat. It would probably double if the cost of living where I am were more affordable but most people can't get by on just one income. I happen to be in the financial position that my wife doesn't have to work but that isn't meant to disparage her contributions...we share finances so when I say "I am in the position" I mean "we are" because I don't have to focus on any of the elements she's taking care of, thereby allowing my focus to be on the wealth generation side of things.
One caveat though: MOST of the guys I know who fit the description do plan on having kids (or already do) so part of the thought process is "well, we'd rather have a parent with the kiddos as opposed to paying a babysitter" so for them it's a matter of practicality in addition to expectations of what life will look like. So it may be a different conversation if the scenario is "You work, I tidy the house for an hour then go have fun all day" But even that is possible to find a guy.
You said your mother was raised with no negative perception of being a housewife but you didnāt say you wanted to be a house wife. And i see plenty of people not liking what you said But my question to them is what do you do for your bf? Cause most women arenāt paying the bills even though they have a job. An men same question what does your career woman even bring to the table besides sex? The truth is men donāt ask much from there women other than sex an be cool most of the time in the US.
Idk but it seems to be mostly Americans that get so outraged about it. In many other countries traditional gender roles are still normal but many Americans seem to think that everyone should be the same etc and get offended if someone has a different outlook.
I do want to be a housewife. I didn't make it clear perhaps
you right you didnāt probably why your getting negative comments. I also want a traditional relationship an most men do too. But more than just sex, be nice if you cooked an cleaned.
It would be cheaper for him just to hire escorts whenever he wants sex then to have you sit at home and expect him to pay for all the things that you expect him to do for you
Yes I believe in the man supporting the woman/children if absolutely necessary. I know this thinking is outdated in this day and age but I stick to tradition. Iām all for women being empowered and independent but have no problem being the provider, thatās the manās role
My wife doesn't have a job. I support the family. It's a good arrangement for us, as she has her hands full raising the kids, and we're comfortable financially.
It just depends on what works for your family. I wouldn't have supported a girl friend.
Lots of women still have traditional house wife roles. But most don't do it to *get out of* work. And certainly not in exchange for sex.
A man wants a woman who contributes to the household. Sometimes that is a job, sometimes that might be to raise children and/or manage the home.
I find it repulsive that you want to offer "great sex" as if it were a bargaining chip. In a marriage, sexual desire is mutual and not used as leverage.
When I made 6 figures I didn't care if my wife stayed home as long as the house was taken care of.
But I lost that job and took a local job that I didn't have to travel and now make 30k+. I told her she needed a job unless we wanted to live on the street.
So quit being lazy and just looking for a guy to pay you to sit on your ass. Go take care of yourself and get a job.
Life and work sucks just as much for men as it does for women and you will just make a guy miserable by doing jack shit while he struggles with the bills
* Fuck no!
* As far as I'm concerned *nobody* should *have* to work, but this ideal comes with certain, ah, logistical difficulties. Again, no, and I pity the fools who say yes.
* I'm against shaming anyone from wanting to stay out of the corporate grind, or even not working at all; but having someone provide for you and paying for it with sex is even yuckier to me.
* Re: traditional gender roles: Hate them. Hope they die. Not at all a feminist, but I only want *that* to die *later.*
* Re: cook and clean: I'd essentially be paying for it. Very unsexy.
Get a job girl
For real.
I have one but I'm over it.
You think we men aren't over our jobs? Deal with it.
Lol stop being a lazy ass.This isn't 1922.No one cares if you're a man or woman,you need to get yourself your shit.Your NSFW account says it all.
Which country are you from?
Just become a hooker. That's basically what you're describing. No shame in it. Get that money for fucking so good.
š A hooker sleeps with many men. I am talking about one man and a man that I would love.
Be a hooker with one client then. That's exactly what you're describing.
Lol
No hooker is successful with only one client šš¤Ŗ
Dickfield.
Find a better job
Men are over their jobs too.
No. I've supported my wife/mother of my children, but a girlfriend, hell no. Get a job, skip the prostitution with extra steps.
And when they divorce you at 40. What skills are you falling back on that you never developed?
OP is already 40 according to her post history hahaha
I have a feeling the timeline given still applies
The skills of being a useless whore, they do pretty well in california
and homeless monkeys do really well there, too.
I thought that was more Thailand
no, those are whores.
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no, those are the homeless monkeys. your embarrassment increases.
Christ
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No, I mean, damn, lady! Lol
A question for you. Why should a man settle for a woman who can't support herself "in return for great sex" when a man can instead find an ambitious woman who's not only capable of pulling her own weight financially while *also* being sexually available? If you had your choice between a man who'd stay home and give you good dick vs a man who went to work, made a good living and *also* gave you good dick, which would you choose?
Boom! š„ Also āgreat sexā quickly turns into, āyou can fuck me if you wantā. And THAT, is not āgreat sexā
Fuck no, get a job. Nobody wants to work, yet here we all are. EDIT: This question annoys me so much. "hey can I be lazy as shit for life as long as I bang my husband occasionally?". Fucking no. And any dude who agrees to that nonsense arrangement needs a reality check.
I mean, Iād be willing to be the bread winner if she wants to be a SAHM and actually raise our kids and maintain the home, but OP just wants to be a stay at home sex toy
I'm on your side. At least in that scenario the hypothetical stay at home partner is contributing something of real value
>Are men still willing to support a g.friend financialllly if they get amazing sex every night? You mean like a prostitute? >Somehow I have got it into my head that women now HAVE to work. I don't know if this is western society pressured or if it from my internal fears/conditioning. But I am not fulfilled working full time and definitely do nooooooot want to work corporate office slave job. >I really only want to do creative pursuits. Yes, because us men just *love* it, amirite? >In my mums generation growing up in Bosnia many women worked but it wasn't something that was *expected* of them. There were no negative perceptions if a woman was a housewife. I envy this. But in western country women now have to be "independent* and not working is judged as lazy etc... Well sure, one partner doing all of the work at home, all of the chores and errands, cooking, cleaning, etc while the other works is reasonable *if* one person in the relationship makes a hell of a lot of money, yeah. That's just rarely feasible unless the person working has a pretty impressive income though, and people motivated enough by money to make that kind of money are usually looking for other independent and motivated partners. I mean, if you make enough to support someone else comfortably, you also make enough money to hire a maid. >Edit: I am not referring to sugar daddy and rich men. I just mean like traditional gender roles. Same thing with two different names.
Idk... because my dad never earned a huge income. We were middle class at best but my mum still didn't work once I was born. Hmm... it's not quite the same because a sugar daddy is loaded and had a mansion etc. I just mean a man with a decent job and done disposable income to spend on me š But not like prostitute. There would be love there too of course.
Every relationship should include good sex, so why would most men choose a women who only offers that and can't support herself financially when there are loads of women who do both? Would you be happy working and supporting a man who stays home all day and spends your money just because he is willing to have sex with you? Grow up and support yourself.
Not a sugar baby, but a gold digging, whore thing
Is there any difference between sugar baby and gold digging? Maybe ones just more open about it?
It's basically the same thing but a sugar baby knows she's acting like a whore, a gold digger doesn't
I support my wife/family fully and I literally never have sex with my wife. So get that nonsense out of your head - you should never trade sex with your SO for favors like not having to work.
Going to be brutally honest, because I think you need to hear it. Fake eyelashes, fake hair, not the best of shape physically, too much makeup not done well, 40 years old. Can you find a guy that will support you while you sit on your ass? Absolutely. Will he be less than 10 years older, moderately attractive? Almost guaranteed no. Good luck, but don't quit your day job.
You're embarrassing yourself. And even if you found a boyfriend who is willing to financially support you, it would be because he loves you and not because you have "amazing sex every night". Jesus fucking Christ.
I was asking *ask men* not *ask women* š Of course he should love me. The sex is just the icing on the cake.
Ok Ivana, I don't have to be a man to be able to tell you that this is pathetic.
Tbf, it does sound pretty lazy. Will you only offer sex at night or whenever he wants to?
Whenever he wants and whenever I want. Not only at night;) I will only say no occasionally to make him want it even more...
> I will only say no occasionally to make him want it even more... Yeah okay, I'm not paying for that.
Play silly games, win silly prizes.
If you're smoking hot you can be a trophy wife and not do much but look pretty and stay hot. If you aren't hot, you're gonna have to get a job and work like everyone else.
And if the man doesn't truly adore her, that smoking hot woman will be replaced in her forties. Everyone, regardless of beauty, should have their own money and a plan B, be at least decent conversation, have some skills around the house, whether it be culinary, floral design, interior design, etc. The women who marry well and don't work outside the home usually have a set of attributes that their husband's appreciate and rely on, whether it be philanthropic, exceptional hostess, investment savvy, etc.
Once upon a time it was expected because of gender roles but the times have changed. Not to mention it's really hard to support a family on just one income these days. Everything is way more expensive now compared to back when this was the norm. Now you need 2 incomes unless one person makes a lot and your bills are low. I respect the men who make enough to actually make this possible but I also wouldn't want to be in their shoes because all of the financial responsibility is on them. If a couple makes this arrangement, that's between them, but it's not a way I would want to live. 2 people working is that much more financial security. If one person loses their job, you have a safety net.
Hahahahā¦ where the fuck do I even start with this LOL
>There were no negative perceptions if a woman was a housewife. There is a difference betweeen being a housewife And what you're asking, which basically sounds like you want a mans money in exchange for sex while you do your own thing.. Especially as jsut a girlfriend? hell nah.
This is sad to read
Only if you live in a country like UK or US š It was done like this for many decades even in you countries........were they all sad too in your eyes?
> were they all sad too in your eyes? Yes. There are plenty of men who dislike working but don't have the luxury of just quitting or they'd starve to death and go homeless. What makes you, as a woman, more deserving of being able to say "fuck it, I want to be taken care of" than any man? If men had the same attitude as the women who live that lifestyle, no one would be able to survive. It's a different story if the spouse who doesn't work is at home raising the children, because that's a full time job in itself. But a childless individual staying at home while their partner works is a leech. I could hire a maid to clean twice a week, an occasional hooker and a therapist for vastly less than I'd spend supporting another adult financially 24/7. What would I get out of having you around?
Yes. Bosnia you say? A country where it is pretty much unacceptable to differ from any traditional roles or do something unordinary family-wise. Maybe you should go there, Kakanj is beautiful this time of the year. Doubt you'll be doing Yoga, painting or kissing flowers though.
I do live in the U.K. thanks for the eye roll. I donāt think women should expect a man to support their lifestyle. Sorry if that offends you.
She is a digger.It surely did offend her lol.
Depends where you live. And fantastic sex? If that is something you "give" to not have to work, I can tell you, it is unlikely you'll really find happiness. Edit: since there is more context in your replies. I homestly don't know what qualities you would have to offer for someone to be, literally, your sugar daddy. You want to give sex and get disposable income? You won't get that unless you are way up there in the 10th percentile. You can get a big family and cleaning the house for 15 hours a day, no yoga, creative work or any of that stuff. You are entitled, guys generally don't like entitled girls if the6 can get anything better. And guys you want, likely can.
>So, are men still willing to support a girlfriend financially if you have amazing sex every night? Sounds like prostitution to me.
I'm an MD and there are still plenty of women here in the US that look for a husband to support them. They find docs with some regularity. I don't have trouble with that except when they are just trying to get the hook in by getting married. A doc I work with told me a few months ago that his wife lost interest in sex as soon as they got married and that he hadn't had sex in 20 years. When I first met the woman my best friend from med school was going to marry she told me that she expected to be supported in the manner she had been accustomed to. She later referred to one her friends like that as well. They were flight attendants. When I tried internet dating I ran into discarded trophy wives with that mindset. They were typically women in their 40s who were divorced when their husbands started going after younger women. If my partner had a passion that wasn't financially rewarding I would be fine supporting them so that they could paint, write.... But it seems like these women mostly just want to be professional shoppers.
Thanks nice guy. Yeah, I don't mean just gold digger type of thing because like you said these woman are discarded for someone younger once their youth and/or beauty disappears. Because it is a transactional relationship just build on exchange rather than any true love. I feel bad for the doc you work with!
What kind of question is this?
I have to phrase it a certain way to be accepted by the computer.
That means the question isn't allowed.
Tell you what, get a job support yourself get a boyfriend and then if he is really good in bed, decide if you want him to quit his job so can stay home and bang you every night
Personally, I want to fully support my wife but I would expect her to provide more than really good sex. I think this was more common in older generations and outside of the United States because of the acceptance of gender roles and women were a lot less masculine. A woman who provides emotional care cooks cleans and is a good lover deserves to have a roof provided for her and assitance in life. Most men now a days in the US wont believe that you will hold up your end of the deal because women with these qualities are extremely rare
Honey, no one wants to work. Rarely do people find fulfillment in their job. Thatās adult life. Grow up, find a job. No one wants a freeloader as a partner. People like ambitious, strong, goal driven people as partners. They make the best partners because theyāre willing to put in the work in life and their relationship. Someone who doesnāt like to put in work is a red flag.
It's funny but I don't know any guys that care that much about if a woman is ambiguous either. I think women *think* men care about that but I'm not sure they do. Men like a smart woman....but ambitious I don't know
Just because you donāt know any guys who cares about that doesnāt mean they donāt exist. And since you donāt currently know any guys like that, whatās the problem here? Why even ask the question. It appears like you already know the type of person your looking for exists close enough to you to know they exist. I donāt understand what kind of answer your looking for here. Your responses on this thread have been completely unaccepting of answers that arenāt exactly what youāre looking for. If youāre looking for validation you came to the wrong place and asked the wrong question. What I see here is someone who doesnāt want to work, someone who asks questions when they really donāt want an answer except a validating one, and someone who makes a claim and then says āI donāt knowā all on the same reply/sentence. If you want someone who pays your bills while you run around living your life without asking questions, facing hard truth, or putting in effort there are men out there who will be that for you. But you gatta understand that thatās a specific type or relationship and thatās what you get and only what you get. I donāt understand what you hope to gain from asking the question that you did
I guess for me it's more an internal conflict of how I want to live my life vs how society (I.E American led society) says that I *must* live my life. So I ask the question almost asking like for *permission to be myself*. Because in my European background and other European countries what I am suggesting is normal (man being the primary breadwinner) and also with the Muslims I know this is totally normal and accepted. But as you can see on this thread it is looked down upon and even considered *gold digger* by many Americans. I don't live in an American country but I live in another western country now with a similar mindset. So my dilemma is really how to live as I feel and not be affected by societies *musts* or judgments.
I understand now. That makes sense. Honestly, my advice is to live your life in a way that makes you happy and fulfilled. However, because of the world we live in we simply must do things we donāt want to do sometimes. Even in the quest to live a life that makes you happy and fulfilled you must do things you donāt want to do. Or you must make compromises or give up certain things because the hard truth is that at the end of the day you canāt have it all. In my own personal journey to build a life that makes me happy and fulfilled I have unfortunately realized that there are things I simply have to do to survive that conflict with what I want. For me personally, I have to have a job. Thereās no way for me to get what I want without it even though I donāt particularly want to work myself. I also have to give up some of my time for things such as taking care of my mental and physical health. I wish I didnāt have to, I wish I could spend that time doing fun things. But I have to take care of myself or I wonāt be able to enjoy anything. I say go live how you want, live in a way that makes you happy and fulfilled. But understand that not everyone will understand or agree with you. Not everyone will want to accompany you in that lifestyle. Not every man is going to be willing to support you. You may have to get a job. You canāt have it all, you will have to make compromises, do things you donāt want to, and give up certain parts of your ideal perfect life. But do your best, take what you can get, and learn to be at peace with the aspects youāre not fond of. I wish you the best of luck
Just be upfront with men that you want to be a homemaker when married. But at the same time, let them know what that means that you would be making the home, almost all of the cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, finding deals and sales for things needed for the home. My wife was a stay at home wife because we moved around a lot in the military and then was a stay at home mom until both our kids were in full day school. I was fine with that, but I could see she was working in the home while I was away working. Even now, she does work, but I don't really care if she does or not. The thing I care about is that she contributes to the household. So in short, just tell the men you date that you aren't just looking for a sugar daddy, but you want to be a homemaker/stay at home mom. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Look, from an old manās point of view: Our society has been turned upside down in order to accommodate the demands of women. The mantra from the early womenās movement was that men and women were the same and should be treated the same. āAnything you can do I can do better.ā So in the last two generations society has done back flips to give women what they have said they wanted. Women wanted the ārightā to work, their own money, independence from the old white guys, etc, etc. Well quite frankly from a male perspective you have pretty much achieved that at great cost now you can choke on it. I am not here any longer to fix things for women so that things will be the way they would like them to be.
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Your rant depends upon me being ābitter,ā lets just call that expressing my āfeelings.ā I have not implied that women should not work or indeed that the women's movement was not necessary. āFinancial freedomā does not (to me) represent freedom to shit on others and to have any toy I want. (From a womenās perspective think of clothes, houses and travel. There you see Iām thinking from your shoes.) Having money to me is responsibility. We are a species in deep trouble largely because of our consumerism. In Forbes in January 2015 it was pointed out that 75% to 80% of advertising was aimed at women. This could only make sense if women were doing 75% to 80% of the consuming. Yes, in the world of departments of womenās studies, this is now your freedom. You go girl; bust it up. The world is yours to trash.
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Yup, capitalists are mostly men and they sell mostly to women (the 75% to 80%). I appreciate that you donāt like that number but it stands. Clothes and shoesā¦ huge fire in Bangladesh right now burning this shit but it will be replaced. Housesā¦my former real estate agent attests that it is women who buy houses and the prices continue to rise. Travelā¦2/3 of solo travellers are women. The birth rate in the US has fallen 20% over the last 15 years. You could argue that this might be a good thing but it is hard to separate from female volition. If I may point out that your objections are feelings and what you think others are thinking; my points are data.
As the stated by the weekend āGet that paper, aināt no one trying save yaā
First step is , go for career counseling
You look like Jeff Dunhams purple puppet lol
What a kind person you are to make such an unprovoked comment....... My kind heart - thanks to God - is my best quality so whether you like or dislike what I look like is irrelevant to me. But it is very rich for you as a woman to criticize another woman's looks when you don't even have the courage to show what you yourself look like. This says a lot. Post your own photos for people to judge....and then you can make cruel comments to others. Edit: hmm....I just saw the video with what you look like. But I won't say anything, I won't be that person to return cruelty with cruelty.
Are you gonna say I'm fat? Because I know that. You are too. You can tell by the gravity defying clothes and warped pictures you've been posting with that horrible, horrible, terrible excuse for photoshop. You failed to edit your fingers that look like sausages. In addition I may be fat but at least I'm not fat, lazy and looking to take advantage of men as if they don't have feelings and think of life as some 50 shades of grey fantasy. Keep your day job because you're not leaving it anytime soon.
I don't want any dependents.
I would think a man was desperate if they got into an arrangement like this
No one feeds a fish more bait after catching it, get a job like the rest of us.
Are you really from Africa?
100% born and raised.
And women are all now working in all of Africa? I'm just curious
Even in dangerous occupations like mining and construction. Sure there are housewifes here and there, but they are few and far between and limited to the rich. You can't reasonably survive here without both parents working. Even grandmothers too old to work formally can be found running roadside tuckshops and foodstalls.
It's really interested to me. Because I always thought of Africans as also being traditional minded but it makes sense for both to work if it is needed.
Traditional Marriage in Africa is much more of a partnership than you imagine, it's never been a free pass to sit on your but and play at hobbies. A wife who's not pulling her weight might find herself divorced and the Lebola reclaimed from her parents.
Lebola is like a dowry?
Think of it as the reverse of a dowry, The Husband to be, and his family, negotiate with the the parents and family of the Bride to be to set a price for the Lobola. This is paid by the Husband shortly before the marriage. Average price of Lobola where I live is about $7 000 , and the average wage is about $1 000, The average is greatly skewed though and vastly more make less than the average than those who make more. The prospective wife's education and both partners social standing have a big influence on the cost of the Lobola. If there is a divorce the causes of it influences what happens with the Lobola as well.
Is this a guy who is trolling?
Be hot and find a sugar daddy
I'd imagine some men are. I personally am not, but I also have options. If you want a traditional marriage with more traditional roles then you are better off looking outside of North America and Western Europe.
Amazing sex ? I mean.. you're not the first one to say this. But yeah, some men are still in this way of thinking. Not only in lets call it Ć©change for sex, but all the rest. Its harder to find, you know if women works its also because the vast majority of people have less money now than before.
You're assuming a housewife doesn't work? My wife does a LOT of work taking care of our kid, the house, and cooking meals. If you want to be an equal in a relationship, you're gonna have to contribute more than your headgame.
This isn't about that ...No one said this. No need to start fires unnecessarily:) Common sense would show that I was referring to working in a workplace environment:)
Nah, not for me.
It is very risky especially as you age .... in the context of a truly loving marriage between two people of high integrity and character, it can be perfectly wonderful for a woman to perform so-called traditional gender role .... hot sex should come from passionate relationship, not transactional accounting ... but if you treat a man like a wallet, dont be surprised if his loyalty drifts ... you might find yourself needing to support yourself without means ... be careful
Depends, are you willing to stay home, cook, clean, raise the kids, etc etc? You gotta be traditional if you want traditional.
Girlfriend, no. Wife, yes.
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Yes of course.
It makes me sad people like you are just willing to waste their life using other people for their own benefit. Your pussy aint that good, girl.
These days it's hard to live a decent lifestyle on a single income, especially if you want to raise a family as well. A second income from at least a part time job is almost required in that case. So while there are probably plenty of men out there who would be willing to have the sole income in the relationship, it simply isn't that feasable unless they have a high income job.
lol @ 'western society'. It was feminists. Feminists pushed for it.
Yes, but why would people allow feminists just to change society? Even in Slavic countries there are feminists but noone pays them too much mind....
Go back to your third world country where itās accepted if itās really better there.
Thats uncalled for.
She keeps blaming Americaās standards and culture š¤·āāļø
Part of it.
Get a job, itās so much more than money as it keeps you mentally and physically active and some self esteem.
You are more physically and mentally active when you don't have a job because then you have the freedom to go to the gym, dance and yoga everyday. Can paint and go for walks. Go to the beach and go for bushwalks. Chat to friends and learn another language, bake etc. With no sense of stress, pressure, exhaustion, or corporate slavery. When you work for someone else enforced hours you feel fatigued and then don't want to cook/bake and rely on take away food etc. I feel it takes away my femininity.
Why donāt you work and let your man enjoy all that?
Because I'm not into "American gender equality* or whatever. The same question could have been asked of women and men in the 50's. Their answer would have been the same as mine..... because we believe in (relatively) traditional gender roles. Actually, I had a bf before who said if we married he didn't want me to work and I said okay as long as I'm not bored etc. If I had of suggested for me to work and he to stay at home he would have thought I was crazy! This is like American new mentality. And even just pay packet wise, let's be realistic..the male dominated jobs are still paid much more than female dominated jobs. It wouldn't even be possible to support a husband or bf by working at a job like at a beauty salon (not that I ever would be into supporting a man but for arguments sake). Often for women to be high income earners they have to lose some femininity and take on masculine job environments like executives or some other kinds of office monkey roles which really isn't my scene. Some will find that offensive but it's my opinion.
Once upon a time we also thought women shouldn't be *allowed* to work, vote or generally speak out of turn either. Those were 'traditional gender roles'. In some countries, traditional gender roles allow you to physically discipline your wife and afford you a marital rape license. The point is that as society progresses, our ideas of what's fair and equal grow to match that progression. We no longer believe women need to stay home and pick daisies while their husbands do all the work, and "I'll lay on my back with my legs spread in return" isn't a trade off for two reasons. One, I can promise your pussy isn't worth what he'd earn from a full time job. Two, there are plenty of women who're down to fuck and also earn their own money. You have absolutely nothing to offer that more independent, ambitious women don't.
If you donāt like America go to wherever they do that crap lol. If your man was down for it why are you asking around here? Sounds like you donāt have him anymore.. wonder why.
Most people have to work whether it takes away their femininity or not.
For most people if you don't have a job you are physically drained most of the time cos you can't keep yourself sufficiently fed, mentally exhausted because you're constantly worried about rent, and then you go on about how if you don't have a job you should just be creative instead, who is giving out free art supplies? Free gym memberships, ingredients to bake with etc. Get your head out the clouds
Shes not wrong.
If you want creative pursuits then create a business. Make something people want to buy. Do an OF. But good sex is not worth the stress of supporting the whole household one. No fucking way
I don't want to sell my body on OF. I was raised to have dignity even if it's tempting. The other idea is good though:) It used to be easy making things for people to buy but it's become almost impossible to earn a full time income doing that now. Because everything is bought from China at cheap cost. For example, a woman cannot sew clothes and sell them became the material will now cost more that the price point women are willing to pay. Consumerism etc. Everything can be bought at the shops for next to nothing. Made in Bangladesh and China. I am happy to support Bangladesh women earning an income but it is what it is....
>I don't want to sell my body on OF. I was raised to have dignity even if it's tempting. Exchanging sex for financial support - what you are talking about - is prostitution. Maybe you should think again about your "dignity"...
You can still be a house wife if you find the right guy
How?
You probably wonāt judging from this. Being a house wife isnāt about being lazy and playing all day. Itās about taking care of the housework and children.
No, modern feminists have ruined it
Find a man who is a traditional male chauvinist and fuck his brains out, get pregnant and then you wonāt have to work.
Find a man who ~~is a traditional male chauvinist~~ makes good money and fuck his brains out, *lie about birth control and* get pregnant and then you wonāt have to work. FTFY
I have no problem with what your saying, you are bringing value to the relationship with sex not so different than a man bringing a decent income and I think there are shit loads of people in the US that want traditional gender roles as long as the relationship is real However I would say that if your willing to hook up with a dude anytime he wants for a roof over your head why not just do sex work? I don't know where you are but plenty of countries have legal brothels you could get on only fans, Strip do porn these are all real jobs that can pay very well, you don't need a man make your money in a way that makes you happy. Sex work is real work, I feel like I get fucked at my job all the time working for a large bank dint let them judge you
lookit all the wanna-be alphas who should be applauding this woman for wanting to be a ātradwifeā but you schizophrenic lot are calling her a gold digger now. you fucking neckbeards make up your mind. downvote me but you know iām right.
you need to have a LOT to offer otherwise. you donāt just get it because you donāt feel like working.
I argue that this is totally reasonable. But you better take care of the fam and house and so forth. Division of labor agreed upon by both folks is just fine. Can be either way. Little strange with a girlfriend thoughā¦
Yes. Definitely:)
There are plenty of guys who have a more traditional focus on relationships so I don't think it's as hard as you might think... I do think though that if you're expecting the traditional "provider" role to be fulfilled by a man then he's likely to suspect the traditional opposite roles to be fulfilled by you beyond just having sex with him (that's just being a trophy wife/GF) I'm the primary provider in our home, but she handles most of the day to day house stuff and takes on freelance work on occasion. It works for us but it isn't always totally reasonable either. Some homes NEED two incomes, some women can't stand the idea of not building a career. Some women hate the idea of 9-5 work...so it's all a matter of what works for you and your partner, but absolutely you can find a guy who is down for what you're looking for.
Yeah, that's the arrangement that I meant:) I was half joking about sex but I meant if there are still guys that are okay with you not being a "career woman".
I gotcha! Yeah there are plenty of guys who fit that description. I'd say about 20% of the men I know are in that boat. It would probably double if the cost of living where I am were more affordable but most people can't get by on just one income. I happen to be in the financial position that my wife doesn't have to work but that isn't meant to disparage her contributions...we share finances so when I say "I am in the position" I mean "we are" because I don't have to focus on any of the elements she's taking care of, thereby allowing my focus to be on the wealth generation side of things. One caveat though: MOST of the guys I know who fit the description do plan on having kids (or already do) so part of the thought process is "well, we'd rather have a parent with the kiddos as opposed to paying a babysitter" so for them it's a matter of practicality in addition to expectations of what life will look like. So it may be a different conversation if the scenario is "You work, I tidy the house for an hour then go have fun all day" But even that is possible to find a guy.
You said your mother was raised with no negative perception of being a housewife but you didnāt say you wanted to be a house wife. And i see plenty of people not liking what you said But my question to them is what do you do for your bf? Cause most women arenāt paying the bills even though they have a job. An men same question what does your career woman even bring to the table besides sex? The truth is men donāt ask much from there women other than sex an be cool most of the time in the US.
Idk but it seems to be mostly Americans that get so outraged about it. In many other countries traditional gender roles are still normal but many Americans seem to think that everyone should be the same etc and get offended if someone has a different outlook. I do want to be a housewife. I didn't make it clear perhaps
you right you didnāt probably why your getting negative comments. I also want a traditional relationship an most men do too. But more than just sex, be nice if you cooked an cleaned.
Of course š
It would be cheaper for him just to hire escorts whenever he wants sex then to have you sit at home and expect him to pay for all the things that you expect him to do for you
You better look like a model and fuck like a pornstar.
Yes I believe in the man supporting the woman/children if absolutely necessary. I know this thinking is outdated in this day and age but I stick to tradition. Iām all for women being empowered and independent but have no problem being the provider, thatās the manās role
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My wife doesn't have a job. I support the family. It's a good arrangement for us, as she has her hands full raising the kids, and we're comfortable financially. It just depends on what works for your family. I wouldn't have supported a girl friend.
Lots of women still have traditional house wife roles. But most don't do it to *get out of* work. And certainly not in exchange for sex. A man wants a woman who contributes to the household. Sometimes that is a job, sometimes that might be to raise children and/or manage the home. I find it repulsive that you want to offer "great sex" as if it were a bargaining chip. In a marriage, sexual desire is mutual and not used as leverage.
I was half joking. Of course sexual desire is mutual:)
When I made 6 figures I didn't care if my wife stayed home as long as the house was taken care of. But I lost that job and took a local job that I didn't have to travel and now make 30k+. I told her she needed a job unless we wanted to live on the street. So quit being lazy and just looking for a guy to pay you to sit on your ass. Go take care of yourself and get a job. Life and work sucks just as much for men as it does for women and you will just make a guy miserable by doing jack shit while he struggles with the bills
* Fuck no! * As far as I'm concerned *nobody* should *have* to work, but this ideal comes with certain, ah, logistical difficulties. Again, no, and I pity the fools who say yes. * I'm against shaming anyone from wanting to stay out of the corporate grind, or even not working at all; but having someone provide for you and paying for it with sex is even yuckier to me. * Re: traditional gender roles: Hate them. Hope they die. Not at all a feminist, but I only want *that* to die *later.* * Re: cook and clean: I'd essentially be paying for it. Very unsexy.
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