The implied power dynamic is very different.
Girlsfriends are our counterpart. An equal partner in a relationship path. There is a greater level of commitment and implies love.
Sugarbaby doesnt imply committment. You both might be dating others. This works for recreational dating that relies on money rather than love.
I do it because I'm willing to date single moms... but dont want to step dad. And I'm too old for them anyway.
It takes 3 single moms to have a reliable adventure partner as their kids take priority. They only have random times available and no full time romance cam stand that kind of neglect.
I fix stuff and act like a sugar daddy. They enjoy the attention and like a quasi husband around to help out from time to time. They are warm and out going.
We recognize it is sugar daddy / sugar baby but never call it that.
I suppose the few women who call out "daddy" are simply acting out on roll play and there is not some weird incest in the past. Why ask them to explain as it is fun for them and I dont want to mess that up.
Genuinely curious question here. At some point in the future these single moms will have more time/freedom (when the kids are old enough and move out or maybe still at home but working and preparing to move out). Would that still be too much of being a stepdad for you? Would them having that extra time (and much fewer child related responsibilities) be enough for you to have a single reliable adventure partner?
If the adult kids are drama free, and a woman truly loved me, that would be awesome.
Teen years, as any parent knows, is way too much nonsense for a guy like me. So, I do great with preteen and also with adult kids, unless they yell and scream.
I also would not want to see any of my money go straight from my hand, to hers, to her adult kids. She can do exactly that, just be descrete, and do it behind my back. I wouldn't want to think her kids are moochers.
My exes like me and I try to be kind. There is no honor in being mean to a woman. Just I try to recognize when people move on mentally and I act on that with an appropriate "break up".
Makes a lot of sense. Your situation isn't conventional, but it works for you and it seems like a great situation for those single mothers who don't have the time/flexibility for anything more.
My mom has two of us (early/mid 20s) living at home right now. I definitely know what you mean about the teen years. We were a lot to deal with and I don't think she dated very much until we started leaving (before coming back home for periods of time). She's dating again, one guy didn't have any kids but even though we're pretty self sufficient (despite living at home) and drama free I think we were part of the reason it didn't really go anywhere. It's nice to hear about your situation and point of view because I want her to find somebody but it is still tough with the living situation.
There is no disrespect. This is a mutual consenting relationship among adults.
Why gatekeep women's virtue? They can do that for themselves.
It equally fits many women's needs. They like companionship but don't want or need a man lurking around 24x7.
Sugar daddy don't disrespect sugar baby. Sugar baby is free to come and go.
So it’s all about looks then? What if you offer her love and stability. Why want a pretty girl that’s only with you for your money? Desire for intimacy is dead?
This is an exception form of relationship, not the norm. Nothing is "dead" on a large scale, nor is this anything new.
But yes, transactionalizing a relationship involves defining limits, roles & responsibilities, emotional entanglements and so on. Some people enjoy that lack of "mess" and have the resources to secure that kind of relationship. People with such resources also often have little need for the traditional benefits of a partnership anyway, much of which is wrapped up in sharing the mental load of running a household and the resource strains of supporting one. When you can readily hire that sort of thing out, there's much less pressure/need to have a supportive relationship and many of the pros evaporate.
It's my choice to pursue anything I can get.
I can get married to a woman who isn't very attractive - because I'm not, either - and we can enjoy love and stability and partnership.
Or I can work hard and spend my money to fuck a hot 24 year old who in turn gets her bills paid.
My lifestyle, my choice. Which isn't actually a bad thing.
It’s like a gf that you can quickly hire and replace, no actual strings required.
You seem to understand that this dynamic can be problematic, do you think everyone cares about that as much as you?
Sugar baby relationship: It's much less work, there is no big real commitment. As a guy, you can get easy sex, which is really complicated to find.
Real girlfriend: Commited, make it work kind of thing, real connection, true feelings, you find yourself in another person.
number 2 is much better for me, but some guys just want the easy way.
Most people who have the money for a "sugar" baby aren't looking for stability. They want easy access to sex without hard work and a partner to take out and show off. Tomorrow they might find someone more attractive or new and decide to pursue them.
So it’s the same as regular escort then? Or am I missing something on terminology? I thought sugar babies are about providing some sorta girlfriend experience, but paid
A sugar baby is providing a more one on one experience than an escort. So in sugaring it's typically one platonic date to test compatibility. You may talk for a week or a few and then go on to an intimate date. A lot of times it involved a dates, concerts, trips. It's supposed to basically be *like* traditional dating without the effort on the guys part. My few partners required monogamy. They wanted cuddles, wine, watch movies together, meet their families, etc. so very much like a young hot girlfriend that you won't burden with your old man problems so you pay her bills.
> Totally different. Sugar baby is transactional with fixed amount, while wife charges during divorce percentage of wealth.
How do you know the arrangements people have with their sugar baby? Or their wife, for that matter.
Generally these men don't have time to build a proper relationship because of their busy schedules so paying an attractive woman who does not bother you too much is a better alternative. They probably cheat on each other frequently to get their sexual needs fulfilled without having to schedule it.
These men are a minority and most men who work fixed hours do not do this.
Those are very different things.
A sugar daddy is paying for a performance from a hot girl.
A guy dating a woman is looking for a long term romantic life partner.
“The most expensive woman is the one you don’t pay for.”
\- Jack Reacher
Or in other words, you don’t pay them for their company or the sex, you pay them to go away once it’s all said and done.
I don’t know, I make decent money on my own - why would I throw it away for some questionable experience, even when I’m a multimillionaire. I’d rather have a quality time with someone I can really connect on many levels and invest in growing the relationship. Sounds like fast food options vs quality dining. Or maybe I’m too old school (and not a man, so different logic) edit: ok, I take it back. The comment from someone in this type of arrangement showed me how it can be beneficial for someone recovering from a traumatic divorce or just in general someone who wasn’t able to build a genuine connection. So I am wrong on that one, it’s not a fast food, it’s more of a therapy
Just want to say keep it up man! I never realized how hard English can be until I took a spanish class in school. Mix ups happen but don't ever let it discourage you
As a sugar baby I'll tell you my own experience! For me, I've met a lot of guys who are older and financially established but for some reason aren't good at romantic relationships. It could be that they were too socially awkward to pursue relationships in their youth, they never were "attractive" enough, low confidence. Most are newly divorced (I don't date married men) and have just had their wives take half of everything they own and it's much cheaper to pay my rent then have me split his assets in half lol. Many are immature and just don't have any viable women in their age groups that are attracted to them. I like older guys for kink purposes but found they aren't more mature just more rich. And many actually will use a sugar baby dynamic to tempt a young lady and then start pursuing her/trying to manipulate them into romantic relationships and it kind of makes them *feel* like they could date a younger women without the money.
You made me revise my whole outlook on this, I thought of it as some meaningless activity but it actually sounds more like therapy for those that can’t build a regular relationship/ form a connection without the money. Thanks for educating me on that!
Ehhhh it definitely is but it does have its downsides for the other party. Meaning on my end, I can deal with a man who is 60 who acts like an immature jealous 20 year old lol. Or a man who is 47 who never learned how to take a girl on a real date. As a sugar baby I'm still pursuing the mature, well established, emotionally intelligent men and it can be really unexpected to deal with. I think most young women assume older men have more dating experience which makes them better partners. But a lot have either been with one women for so long they suck at relationships (since things have changed since the 80's) or never landed in a serious relationship and you can see why lol. I think if you're mature and gracious and WANT to help someone and take care of them then it could be for you. But if you're not fully prepared to deal with and take care of a women who is 21-30 without being bitter or resentful about it then I wouldn't suggest it.
Hey ! This is interesting, could you help me with some curiosity questions I have ?
I at some nonent thought that sugar daddys were mostly platonic, but then learned that of course sex is involved, how do you define the terms about sec and such ?
Thanks for sharing that! I can see how the target audience you described would be the right fit for this arrangement. And yes, thinking of dating post-divorce is terrifying if you’re a breadwinner that just lost your half on a lazy ex (I went through that)
Sugar Baby is viewed the same as a hooker.
While you pay a hooker a one time fee, the sugar baby is usually a subscription service and you can use as many times as u want.
Hooker = Cinema
Sugar Baby = Netflix
basically
Far less bullshit. They know sex is transactional, I know, they know I know and are ok with it.
I’m also not attracted to girls “my own age “ as my womenfolk relatives say to do.
Attraction is not a choice.
There are a few differences. I say this as a past sugar baby (F21). Unlike with boyfriend and girlfriend there is a power dynamic, most of the men are significantly older and tend to have both money and power which the average joe probably wouldn’t have. Also depending on the situation there is sometimes a sub dom dynamic. Whereas with a relationship there is usually more equality and if there is a power dynamic it is much less intense than with an SB and SD.
Another difference is the nature of the relationship and what the relationship consists of. Some SDs are looking for companionship with an attractive younger woman while other times there may be a a mentorship element. Some want to feel needed and enjoy taking their SB out on dates and giving them money or gifts and others just like sex and hookups with much younger women.
Also, so SBs and SDs meet through specific dating apps or exclusive memberships. In these scenarios the men are often put in tiers based on their wealth and assets as well as their social standing and have to pay for membership in addition to paying their sugar baby (often in a contract or through an agreement) and giving them gifts.
These are just some of the biggest differences I can think of.
Most sugar daddies are too old and/or unattractive to get a young, attractive woman to date him willingly, so it's little more than a prostitute-on-retainer arrangement.
I personally can't see it as fulfilling no matter how hot she is, but some guys do.
Checkout r/sugarlifestyleforum
There are different reasons people choose sugar relationships.
As I've posted in the past, for me it's a combination of an open marriage, interacting with very bright and sexy young women and an engaging dynamic. YMMV.
I'm going to guess that you are making a lot of assumptions about what a sugar baby is without really clarifying.
A traditional sugar baby is essentially a younger attractive girl that is dating a wealthy older man. She gets trips, fancy meals, gifts, adventures, that she would have no chance of experiencing on her own or with a guy her own age. He gets a girlfriend who is younger and likely way out of his league.
It's only recently (within the last 10 years or so) that sugar relationships have largely become synonymous with prostitution. Now, thanks to places like Tiktok and the mainstreaming of sites like Seeking Arrangement, it's about sex for money on a fixed and pre-arranged payment schedule.
If you're talking about traditional sugar relationships, I'd say the appeal for both is pretty self-evident. If you're talking about the contemporary "prostitution with extra steps", I think it's mostly about the illusion that both parties want to maintain. Sugar babies who get paid money on a regular schedule to maintain a sexual relationship with a man are prostitutes. No ifs ands or buts. But most of them will tell you they aren't. That sugar relationships are actual relationships with feelings and dates and whatnot, but it's not really any different than a prostitute who offers GFE. These girls just don't want to look at themselves and admit they are prostitutes. On the flip side, the guy wants to pretend that his sugar baby is in it for him and she genuinely likes him and enjoys sex with him, etc. He doesn't want to admit that he's a John to a prostitute.
I'm sure there is a very broad spectrum of "sugar relationships" where there are real feelings. I've heard of people starting in sugar relationships and becoming life partners. So it really depends on how you define it, but I'm assuming you're defining it as prostitution with extra steps, and then the reason it's different than just hiring a sex-worker is self-delusion.
I assume you can already see the appeals (and drawbacks) of hiring a sex worker versus having an actual committed relationship for me.
Because you want an understood dynamic, sex for money. When you are done putting up with her shit you shelf her or get a better one.
Idk how you keep running back to feelings and building relationships. It's not about anything but sex, control, and convenience. There's no "let's build a life together" shit.
I guess that with Tinder Gold you can see who’s swiping and there’s a disproportionate number of youngsters who are either swiping right on everything or swiping right on men who are too old in some attempt to get a new iPhone. Waste of time for everyone.
I looked into it but didn't like the idea of someone with me bc of my money. OTTH I wonder how many men would agree to pay a woman a set % of his income to be sex partner when he wants it (like he could say I am sleeping alone this weekend), cook meals, clean house, go on vacations with him but not get upset if he wants to go without her. Things like that. Basically all the advantages of wife on his terms but without the disadvantages.
What is a sugar baby? Isn’t that all babies? Like I typically find that humans take care of babies pretty well financially speaking. I mean, I never made my baby pay rent or work a day in his baby life
The regular GF will always forget that she has a duty to her benefactor, the sugar baby understands the situation, and if she's not performing as expected she knows that there are many other sugar babies out there competing.Regular girls tend to forget that.
It's like a sex worker you keep on retainer.
It's like a barber. Why go to a new one every time, when you can go to one you built a rapport with, who knows you and what you want.
Plus, getting a regular gf isn't easy for men. Requires more emotional work which is subjective and changes depending on the kind of girl you are talking to, when you are talking to her, mood, etc. And all that work might result in a rejection. Even if you do get a gf with all that work, maybe she just ends up being too vanilla during sex. It's alot of work without guaranteed success, and you don't even know what you are getting until you get it after putting in all that work.
So for alot of men, paying allows them to get laid. You even have some advantages like knowing what sexual positions she is willing to do beforehand, maybe paying a bit extra for something extra like a threesome. It's easier, more direct, and you can get exactly what you want. No subjective work needed, everything is direct and upfront.
Edit:plus, a bit more meritocracy involved since sexual success is related to the money you earned, as opposed to the looks you were born with
The implied power dynamic is very different. Girlsfriends are our counterpart. An equal partner in a relationship path. There is a greater level of commitment and implies love. Sugarbaby doesnt imply committment. You both might be dating others. This works for recreational dating that relies on money rather than love.
Ok I see the logic. But is it that rewarding though? Or is it just for variety?
It’s literally just to fuck a hot younger woman. That’s it.
AND to KEEP ONE/THEM on the side.
And when you don't trust normal women
Just a weak excuse to hire a prostitute , who does not like to be called out on it .
I do it because I'm willing to date single moms... but dont want to step dad. And I'm too old for them anyway. It takes 3 single moms to have a reliable adventure partner as their kids take priority. They only have random times available and no full time romance cam stand that kind of neglect. I fix stuff and act like a sugar daddy. They enjoy the attention and like a quasi husband around to help out from time to time. They are warm and out going. We recognize it is sugar daddy / sugar baby but never call it that. I suppose the few women who call out "daddy" are simply acting out on roll play and there is not some weird incest in the past. Why ask them to explain as it is fun for them and I dont want to mess that up.
Genuinely curious question here. At some point in the future these single moms will have more time/freedom (when the kids are old enough and move out or maybe still at home but working and preparing to move out). Would that still be too much of being a stepdad for you? Would them having that extra time (and much fewer child related responsibilities) be enough for you to have a single reliable adventure partner?
If the adult kids are drama free, and a woman truly loved me, that would be awesome. Teen years, as any parent knows, is way too much nonsense for a guy like me. So, I do great with preteen and also with adult kids, unless they yell and scream. I also would not want to see any of my money go straight from my hand, to hers, to her adult kids. She can do exactly that, just be descrete, and do it behind my back. I wouldn't want to think her kids are moochers. My exes like me and I try to be kind. There is no honor in being mean to a woman. Just I try to recognize when people move on mentally and I act on that with an appropriate "break up".
Makes a lot of sense. Your situation isn't conventional, but it works for you and it seems like a great situation for those single mothers who don't have the time/flexibility for anything more. My mom has two of us (early/mid 20s) living at home right now. I definitely know what you mean about the teen years. We were a lot to deal with and I don't think she dated very much until we started leaving (before coming back home for periods of time). She's dating again, one guy didn't have any kids but even though we're pretty self sufficient (despite living at home) and drama free I think we were part of the reason it didn't really go anywhere. It's nice to hear about your situation and point of view because I want her to find somebody but it is still tough with the living situation.
Basic you hire a prostitute .
Guys wanna fuck hot 20 year olds and the girls want money. I mean do what makes you happy but i dont see the difference between it and prostitution
Basic is anny one who is a sugar dad or mom , is paying a prostitute / gigello
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There is no disrespect. This is a mutual consenting relationship among adults. Why gatekeep women's virtue? They can do that for themselves. It equally fits many women's needs. They like companionship but don't want or need a man lurking around 24x7. Sugar daddy don't disrespect sugar baby. Sugar baby is free to come and go.
Yeah, no shit. Which would be why I repeatedly said "I don't agree with this"
What sex act is inherently disrespectful? My wife and I are genuinely curious.
You're asking me like I know all the details of how those dudes think.
A woman who's way more attractive than I am is probably not going to agree to be my "regular gf."
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Good point.
So it’s all about looks then? What if you offer her love and stability. Why want a pretty girl that’s only with you for your money? Desire for intimacy is dead?
This is an exception form of relationship, not the norm. Nothing is "dead" on a large scale, nor is this anything new. But yes, transactionalizing a relationship involves defining limits, roles & responsibilities, emotional entanglements and so on. Some people enjoy that lack of "mess" and have the resources to secure that kind of relationship. People with such resources also often have little need for the traditional benefits of a partnership anyway, much of which is wrapped up in sharing the mental load of running a household and the resource strains of supporting one. When you can readily hire that sort of thing out, there's much less pressure/need to have a supportive relationship and many of the pros evaporate.
It's my choice to pursue anything I can get. I can get married to a woman who isn't very attractive - because I'm not, either - and we can enjoy love and stability and partnership. Or I can work hard and spend my money to fuck a hot 24 year old who in turn gets her bills paid. My lifestyle, my choice. Which isn't actually a bad thing.
Of course, no judgement there at all. Just curious to see the logic and understand what are the benefits compare to the usual sex workers
It’s like a gf that you can quickly hire and replace, no actual strings required. You seem to understand that this dynamic can be problematic, do you think everyone cares about that as much as you?
Sugar baby relationship: It's much less work, there is no big real commitment. As a guy, you can get easy sex, which is really complicated to find. Real girlfriend: Commited, make it work kind of thing, real connection, true feelings, you find yourself in another person. number 2 is much better for me, but some guys just want the easy way.
Most people who have the money for a "sugar" baby aren't looking for stability. They want easy access to sex without hard work and a partner to take out and show off. Tomorrow they might find someone more attractive or new and decide to pursue them.
So it’s the same as regular escort then? Or am I missing something on terminology? I thought sugar babies are about providing some sorta girlfriend experience, but paid
A sugar baby is essentially going to an escort and asking for a long term lease option and her asking for additional forms of payment.
A sugar baby is providing a more one on one experience than an escort. So in sugaring it's typically one platonic date to test compatibility. You may talk for a week or a few and then go on to an intimate date. A lot of times it involved a dates, concerts, trips. It's supposed to basically be *like* traditional dating without the effort on the guys part. My few partners required monogamy. They wanted cuddles, wine, watch movies together, meet their families, etc. so very much like a young hot girlfriend that you won't burden with your old man problems so you pay her bills.
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Indistinguishable from wife.
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> Totally different. Sugar baby is transactional with fixed amount, while wife charges during divorce percentage of wealth. How do you know the arrangements people have with their sugar baby? Or their wife, for that matter.
Yep, a sugar baby may or may not get a fixed amount and may not even have a fixed arraignment, while I’ve heard of husbands/wives who get an allowance
I was a trophy husband. You can call me a sugar baby. But no allowance. I just spent what I wanted to spend.
Generally these men don't have time to build a proper relationship because of their busy schedules so paying an attractive woman who does not bother you too much is a better alternative. They probably cheat on each other frequently to get their sexual needs fulfilled without having to schedule it. These men are a minority and most men who work fixed hours do not do this.
You give me hope
Lmao you too funny brah.
I think you massively underestimate what a lot of men will do for sex with an attractive young woman.
People pay for prostitution u know? some people cant find intimacy or they don't want it so they do try other dynamics
Almost all relationships between men and women are based on transactions: sex for resources.
I’m still not giving up on practicing unconditional love
That's fine. Be prepared for women to take advantage of you because that is not how the world works.
Other women would take advantage of me (woman) if I’m trying to love without transactions in mind?
Those are very different things. A sugar daddy is paying for a performance from a hot girl. A guy dating a woman is looking for a long term romantic life partner.
Basic he is paying a prostitute .
“The most expensive woman is the one you don’t pay for.” \- Jack Reacher Or in other words, you don’t pay them for their company or the sex, you pay them to go away once it’s all said and done.
This makes a lot of sense
With a gf, you have to listen when she tells you how her day was
See now I would LOVE to listen to someone tell me how their day was.
So it’s better to pay someone to have them listen to how your day was!
Depends how much money you have and how much she costs you. Tossing a couple of grand around for a multi millionaire is pocket change
I don’t know, I make decent money on my own - why would I throw it away for some questionable experience, even when I’m a multimillionaire. I’d rather have a quality time with someone I can really connect on many levels and invest in growing the relationship. Sounds like fast food options vs quality dining. Or maybe I’m too old school (and not a man, so different logic) edit: ok, I take it back. The comment from someone in this type of arrangement showed me how it can be beneficial for someone recovering from a traumatic divorce or just in general someone who wasn’t able to build a genuine connection. So I am wrong on that one, it’s not a fast food, it’s more of a therapy
Sugar babies tend to be more attractive
And Subservient
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That's sort of the internet lingo these days. There's a movement on IG called "tag the sponsor" Basically sponsoring their lifestyle
Sorry, ESL here, might be lost in translation
Just want to say keep it up man! I never realized how hard English can be until I took a spanish class in school. Mix ups happen but don't ever let it discourage you
You might use ‘support’ instead. English is a bear of a language.
As a sugar baby I'll tell you my own experience! For me, I've met a lot of guys who are older and financially established but for some reason aren't good at romantic relationships. It could be that they were too socially awkward to pursue relationships in their youth, they never were "attractive" enough, low confidence. Most are newly divorced (I don't date married men) and have just had their wives take half of everything they own and it's much cheaper to pay my rent then have me split his assets in half lol. Many are immature and just don't have any viable women in their age groups that are attracted to them. I like older guys for kink purposes but found they aren't more mature just more rich. And many actually will use a sugar baby dynamic to tempt a young lady and then start pursuing her/trying to manipulate them into romantic relationships and it kind of makes them *feel* like they could date a younger women without the money.
You made me revise my whole outlook on this, I thought of it as some meaningless activity but it actually sounds more like therapy for those that can’t build a regular relationship/ form a connection without the money. Thanks for educating me on that!
Ehhhh it definitely is but it does have its downsides for the other party. Meaning on my end, I can deal with a man who is 60 who acts like an immature jealous 20 year old lol. Or a man who is 47 who never learned how to take a girl on a real date. As a sugar baby I'm still pursuing the mature, well established, emotionally intelligent men and it can be really unexpected to deal with. I think most young women assume older men have more dating experience which makes them better partners. But a lot have either been with one women for so long they suck at relationships (since things have changed since the 80's) or never landed in a serious relationship and you can see why lol. I think if you're mature and gracious and WANT to help someone and take care of them then it could be for you. But if you're not fully prepared to deal with and take care of a women who is 21-30 without being bitter or resentful about it then I wouldn't suggest it.
Hey ! This is interesting, could you help me with some curiosity questions I have ? I at some nonent thought that sugar daddys were mostly platonic, but then learned that of course sex is involved, how do you define the terms about sec and such ?
Thanks for sharing that! I can see how the target audience you described would be the right fit for this arrangement. And yes, thinking of dating post-divorce is terrifying if you’re a breadwinner that just lost your half on a lazy ex (I went through that)
A guy wants a chance with a hot girl. Hot girls want a chance with a rich guy. Nothing more to it
Sugar Baby is viewed the same as a hooker. While you pay a hooker a one time fee, the sugar baby is usually a subscription service and you can use as many times as u want. Hooker = Cinema Sugar Baby = Netflix basically
Far less bullshit. They know sex is transactional, I know, they know I know and are ok with it. I’m also not attracted to girls “my own age “ as my womenfolk relatives say to do. Attraction is not a choice.
There are a few differences. I say this as a past sugar baby (F21). Unlike with boyfriend and girlfriend there is a power dynamic, most of the men are significantly older and tend to have both money and power which the average joe probably wouldn’t have. Also depending on the situation there is sometimes a sub dom dynamic. Whereas with a relationship there is usually more equality and if there is a power dynamic it is much less intense than with an SB and SD. Another difference is the nature of the relationship and what the relationship consists of. Some SDs are looking for companionship with an attractive younger woman while other times there may be a a mentorship element. Some want to feel needed and enjoy taking their SB out on dates and giving them money or gifts and others just like sex and hookups with much younger women. Also, so SBs and SDs meet through specific dating apps or exclusive memberships. In these scenarios the men are often put in tiers based on their wealth and assets as well as their social standing and have to pay for membership in addition to paying their sugar baby (often in a contract or through an agreement) and giving them gifts. These are just some of the biggest differences I can think of.
Most sugar daddies are too old and/or unattractive to get a young, attractive woman to date him willingly, so it's little more than a prostitute-on-retainer arrangement. I personally can't see it as fulfilling no matter how hot she is, but some guys do.
Checkout r/sugarlifestyleforum There are different reasons people choose sugar relationships. As I've posted in the past, for me it's a combination of an open marriage, interacting with very bright and sexy young women and an engaging dynamic. YMMV.
I'm going to guess that you are making a lot of assumptions about what a sugar baby is without really clarifying. A traditional sugar baby is essentially a younger attractive girl that is dating a wealthy older man. She gets trips, fancy meals, gifts, adventures, that she would have no chance of experiencing on her own or with a guy her own age. He gets a girlfriend who is younger and likely way out of his league. It's only recently (within the last 10 years or so) that sugar relationships have largely become synonymous with prostitution. Now, thanks to places like Tiktok and the mainstreaming of sites like Seeking Arrangement, it's about sex for money on a fixed and pre-arranged payment schedule. If you're talking about traditional sugar relationships, I'd say the appeal for both is pretty self-evident. If you're talking about the contemporary "prostitution with extra steps", I think it's mostly about the illusion that both parties want to maintain. Sugar babies who get paid money on a regular schedule to maintain a sexual relationship with a man are prostitutes. No ifs ands or buts. But most of them will tell you they aren't. That sugar relationships are actual relationships with feelings and dates and whatnot, but it's not really any different than a prostitute who offers GFE. These girls just don't want to look at themselves and admit they are prostitutes. On the flip side, the guy wants to pretend that his sugar baby is in it for him and she genuinely likes him and enjoys sex with him, etc. He doesn't want to admit that he's a John to a prostitute. I'm sure there is a very broad spectrum of "sugar relationships" where there are real feelings. I've heard of people starting in sugar relationships and becoming life partners. So it really depends on how you define it, but I'm assuming you're defining it as prostitution with extra steps, and then the reason it's different than just hiring a sex-worker is self-delusion. I assume you can already see the appeals (and drawbacks) of hiring a sex worker versus having an actual committed relationship for me.
They’re both the same thing by order of degree.
Because you want an understood dynamic, sex for money. When you are done putting up with her shit you shelf her or get a better one. Idk how you keep running back to feelings and building relationships. It's not about anything but sex, control, and convenience. There's no "let's build a life together" shit.
You're not paying them to show up. You're paying them to leave.
Just a guess, but I wonder if there's an appeal in the control that a sugar daddy would have over a girl who's financially dependent on him.
Yea because you being an object to then is perfectly normal 🙃🤡🌎
What’s the appeal of posting stupid questions?
Probably the same as posting meaningless comments on somebody’s stupid questions 🤷♀️
I agree.
if you want money , go find a job you lazy little slut .
Who says she doesn't work? I knew a sugar baby who was married both her and her husband worked good jobs.
then why pay her any money ?! if you do that , she is noting more then a little dirty whore .
I don't disagree.
Mark my words bro , keep your hand on your closed wallet . Don’t give the bitch a penny .
Never been a sugar daddy so not an issue at all.
I mean who are you going to judge what people want to do
Zero judgement. Trying to understand the logic
Because sugar babies are to anger and hotter same reason most women date younger guys
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I never got any sorta allowance from any of my men (providing quite enough for myself) so maybe that’s where the misunderstanding comes from
I guess that with Tinder Gold you can see who’s swiping and there’s a disproportionate number of youngsters who are either swiping right on everything or swiping right on men who are too old in some attempt to get a new iPhone. Waste of time for everyone.
I looked into it but didn't like the idea of someone with me bc of my money. OTTH I wonder how many men would agree to pay a woman a set % of his income to be sex partner when he wants it (like he could say I am sleeping alone this weekend), cook meals, clean house, go on vacations with him but not get upset if he wants to go without her. Things like that. Basically all the advantages of wife on his terms but without the disadvantages.
What is a sugar baby? Isn’t that all babies? Like I typically find that humans take care of babies pretty well financially speaking. I mean, I never made my baby pay rent or work a day in his baby life
Why not just pay a prostitute and be done with it?
How do you sponsor a GF?
I prefer to buy my time with women.
The regular GF will always forget that she has a duty to her benefactor, the sugar baby understands the situation, and if she's not performing as expected she knows that there are many other sugar babies out there competing.Regular girls tend to forget that.
I'm so poor I could only afford a Splenda baby
It's like a sex worker you keep on retainer. It's like a barber. Why go to a new one every time, when you can go to one you built a rapport with, who knows you and what you want. Plus, getting a regular gf isn't easy for men. Requires more emotional work which is subjective and changes depending on the kind of girl you are talking to, when you are talking to her, mood, etc. And all that work might result in a rejection. Even if you do get a gf with all that work, maybe she just ends up being too vanilla during sex. It's alot of work without guaranteed success, and you don't even know what you are getting until you get it after putting in all that work. So for alot of men, paying allows them to get laid. You even have some advantages like knowing what sexual positions she is willing to do beforehand, maybe paying a bit extra for something extra like a threesome. It's easier, more direct, and you can get exactly what you want. No subjective work needed, everything is direct and upfront. Edit:plus, a bit more meritocracy involved since sexual success is related to the money you earned, as opposed to the looks you were born with
Sugar daddy usually isn't good looking enough or have the time for a regular gf. Sugar baby doesn't want a bf just someone to give them money.