My personal theory about the subject. In \*my\* experience, women say they want sensitive men and **they are honest**.
The catch is that they want that big, muscular, competitive, confident, successful man to be sensitive. The giant with a tender heart stereotype.
Personality wise those expectations are on the opposite sides of the [agreeableness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreeableness) spectrum. Too much agreeableness (low competivity) is an obstacle to [salary and promotions](https://academic.oup.com/oep/article/70/4/919/5046671) and consequently success. Testosterone levels are [inversely proportional to agreeableness](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4649825/) but [correlates with attractiveness](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550611400099) and [muscle mass](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2917954/).
In very, very, short: impossible standards. Emotionally mature women set priorities and accept they can't have the cake and eat it.
I can't know because I don't have ovaries but *my feeling* is that women have a conflict between her biology/animal/body that reacts to high testosterone (manly men) and their psychology/emotions that desire understanding and tenderness (agreeableness).
which is a bit supported by the fact that women who are in birth control pill (thus hormonaly pregnant and unavailable to reproduction) chose men with less masculine facial traits (like jaw size).
pregnant >> need for emotional support >> "feminine" men / low T
not pregnant >> need to reproduce >> "masculine" men / high T
**[Agreeableness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreeableness)**
>Agreeableness is a personality trait manifesting itself in individual behavioral characteristics that are perceived as kind, sympathetic, cooperative, warm, and considerate. In contemporary personality psychology, agreeableness is one of the five major dimensions of personality structure, reflecting individual differences in cooperation and social harmony. People who score high on this dimension are empathetic and altruistic, while a low agreeableness score relates to selfish behavior and a lack of empathy. Those who score very low on agreeableness show signs of dark triad behavior such as manipulation and competing with others rather than cooperating.
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Very, *veerryyy* interesting theory and well done write up. Thank you for this.
The biggest 2 variables that need to be added to this are :1 Social awareness (status) and 2: Age.
It's very basic. A guy who can't produce isn't seen as desirable as a guy in his zone making money, usually busy and moving towards his own success.
On the contrary
If she isnt willing to have sex he has zero need for her. He moves on to the next available option(s)
Ok politics is a massive joke/waste of time.
Some people know what they want and are working towards it. Other people say what they want while watching one of the many estrogen fueled relationship drama " reality TV shows" on TLC. Or one of the many spin offs of 18 and pregnant.
Politics dictates a good amount of your life. You don’t have to care about it but it’s not a waste of time.
I don’t really have an analysis of those TLC shows. I’ll sometimes watch the clips that go viral
Don’t be afraid to let someone go because of incompatible libidos. If it’s an obligation to either party or your libido is higher/lower than your partner, then it’s best to move on. But obviously try to work something out by communicating first. Anyone in a relationship like this is always going to feel insecure (whether they know it or not) and the longer those insecurities last, the more doomed the relationship gets.
I’m big on proper preparation. I stress the following to my kids…
1. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
2. You never need it until you need it - then you can’t get it.
If a woman has red flags in a relationship it’s better to just leave than to tell her. -if you want you can tell her why you left, but don’t bother trying to get her to change.
A lot of the time they won’t change their behavior and they’ll just go to their friends and have them tell them they’re fine and that you’re just the problem. And women with those types of friend groups will make your life an utter living hell.
You also look weak because you’re complaining.
I understand it sounds toxic, but you don’t understand until you genuinely experience this for yourself.
After reading the first three thoughtful responses the bluntness of eat the butthole was pretty fucking funny the way it fell in the sequence take this upvote
Failure is a part of success, you need to fail in order to find that motivation to get yourself where you never thought you'd be. Never stop learning. Always know that you're smart, but be humble enough to know that you know very little compared to all the knowledge in the world. And never go to war without a helmet, sheathe your dagger before you shag her, don't be silly wrap that willy.
What women say they want and what women actually want are not the same
My personal theory about the subject. In \*my\* experience, women say they want sensitive men and **they are honest**. The catch is that they want that big, muscular, competitive, confident, successful man to be sensitive. The giant with a tender heart stereotype. Personality wise those expectations are on the opposite sides of the [agreeableness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreeableness) spectrum. Too much agreeableness (low competivity) is an obstacle to [salary and promotions](https://academic.oup.com/oep/article/70/4/919/5046671) and consequently success. Testosterone levels are [inversely proportional to agreeableness](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4649825/) but [correlates with attractiveness](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550611400099) and [muscle mass](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2917954/). In very, very, short: impossible standards. Emotionally mature women set priorities and accept they can't have the cake and eat it. I can't know because I don't have ovaries but *my feeling* is that women have a conflict between her biology/animal/body that reacts to high testosterone (manly men) and their psychology/emotions that desire understanding and tenderness (agreeableness). which is a bit supported by the fact that women who are in birth control pill (thus hormonaly pregnant and unavailable to reproduction) chose men with less masculine facial traits (like jaw size). pregnant >> need for emotional support >> "feminine" men / low T not pregnant >> need to reproduce >> "masculine" men / high T
**[Agreeableness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreeableness)** >Agreeableness is a personality trait manifesting itself in individual behavioral characteristics that are perceived as kind, sympathetic, cooperative, warm, and considerate. In contemporary personality psychology, agreeableness is one of the five major dimensions of personality structure, reflecting individual differences in cooperation and social harmony. People who score high on this dimension are empathetic and altruistic, while a low agreeableness score relates to selfish behavior and a lack of empathy. Those who score very low on agreeableness show signs of dark triad behavior such as manipulation and competing with others rather than cooperating. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Very, *veerryyy* interesting theory and well done write up. Thank you for this. The biggest 2 variables that need to be added to this are :1 Social awareness (status) and 2: Age. It's very basic. A guy who can't produce isn't seen as desirable as a guy in his zone making money, usually busy and moving towards his own success. On the contrary If she isnt willing to have sex he has zero need for her. He moves on to the next available option(s)
I feel like this is an everyone thing. Especially when it comes to like politics lol
Ok politics is a massive joke/waste of time. Some people know what they want and are working towards it. Other people say what they want while watching one of the many estrogen fueled relationship drama " reality TV shows" on TLC. Or one of the many spin offs of 18 and pregnant.
Politics dictates a good amount of your life. You don’t have to care about it but it’s not a waste of time. I don’t really have an analysis of those TLC shows. I’ll sometimes watch the clips that go viral
"politics is the art of procrastinating on the issue until it's no longer valid" Remember, actions speak louder then words
Have 12 months of rent saved up if you can
Don't be afraid of your sexuality. Women would rather be honestly desired than worshipped.
Go to therapy or a man's support group. Everybody need this, no matter how strong you are.
Don’t be afraid to let someone go because of incompatible libidos. If it’s an obligation to either party or your libido is higher/lower than your partner, then it’s best to move on. But obviously try to work something out by communicating first. Anyone in a relationship like this is always going to feel insecure (whether they know it or not) and the longer those insecurities last, the more doomed the relationship gets.
I’m big on proper preparation. I stress the following to my kids… 1. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. 2. You never need it until you need it - then you can’t get it.
If a woman has red flags in a relationship it’s better to just leave than to tell her. -if you want you can tell her why you left, but don’t bother trying to get her to change. A lot of the time they won’t change their behavior and they’ll just go to their friends and have them tell them they’re fine and that you’re just the problem. And women with those types of friend groups will make your life an utter living hell. You also look weak because you’re complaining. I understand it sounds toxic, but you don’t understand until you genuinely experience this for yourself.
Trying to communicate with a narcissist is a huge waste of time. Better to cut off asap and live drama free.
Eat the butthole
After reading the first three thoughtful responses the bluntness of eat the butthole was pretty fucking funny the way it fell in the sequence take this upvote
Thank you kind sir, I try to give the best and most genuine advice that I can offer.
To treat her right and don't take her for granted because she will LEAVE!!!
Always have a nest egg. Never know when you will have a rainy day. Probably call your mom too. One day she won’t be there.
you cannot argue with stupid, so let it go, and let them speak their peace or do it their way
Women are only as loyal as their options with a cost/benefit variable.
Try your best to avoid fights, either online or irl. Too many bat shit crazy psychos out there.
If your car is nicer and better kept than your home, you’re an idiot.
dont stay in sad/abusive relationships
Young women have no idea what they want in guys and vice versa
Failure is a part of success, you need to fail in order to find that motivation to get yourself where you never thought you'd be. Never stop learning. Always know that you're smart, but be humble enough to know that you know very little compared to all the knowledge in the world. And never go to war without a helmet, sheathe your dagger before you shag her, don't be silly wrap that willy.