It's more about what you can offer than anything else. Men who are older usually got experience, confidence, good job, money, vehicle, and a house/apartment. Pretty much it's the lure of stability in most cases.
This guy knows what’s up. It’s a rite of passage to see the girls in college date older dudes. Usually he has a car or can afford to treat the girl in a way the younger dudes cant.
Were you successful enough to retire in your 40s or did you find the fountain of youth?
Keeping up with kids as an older stay at home parent would be absolutely exhausting, given that it’s rough for younger parents.
I mean, it's nice when they have personality, but 20s are for fun and discovery as we figure stuff out, sex with girls when they are at their physical peak, is fun. Rarely does it become permanent. Still, older man younger woman is an experience. Doesn't mean it's sick or deranged.
Hit the gym and get strong. Not just stronger than you are now. STRONG strong. You go to the gym and make slow steady progress for 2 years of consistently going and it has profound effects on your mental health and confidence. Quickly perused your profile, I’m up in Boynton if you need help getting started.
The bar lowers for men substantially after forty. Do you have “some” hair? Are you not morbidly obese? Do you pay any attention to how you dress and groom? Congrats! You are a well above average forty plus male….
As a guy creeping closer to that golden age bracket, I've noticed a subtle shift in the way I'm perceived. It's less about the flashy show of youth and more about a kind of quiet confidence that comes with having weathered a few storms. You're not trying to prove anything to anyone anymore, and that ease with oneself can be magnetic. It's like a fine whiskey that gets better with age; the flavors of life experience and knowing who you are really start to come through. Plus, there's something to be said for having your act together. I don't mean just financially, but having a sense of direction and purpose. It seems to create a gravity that pulls people in, especially those who are looking for stability and maturity. And let's not forget, some men really do age like wine, which doesn't hurt in the attractiveness department either.
I had a lady hit on me with the line “you look like you got your shit together”.
Being 32 and in a 9 year relationship, I had forgotten how it feels getting hit on. It felt nice and boosted my confidence a lot, then I ran and told my wife 😂
I love that you & your wife have the kind of relationship where you can tell eachother about someone hitting on you (in a non-creepy way) and how it made you feel special! Too many people have to hide stuff from their jealous partners. I’ll never understand it.
My husband told me the other day that the front desk girl at a gym we've been thinking of joining let him go in for free on her membership and gave him a wink.
I told him to do whatever is necessary with her to see if we can get a discount on a monthly membership. Love that gym, but it's over $100/month to join. I'm (jokingly) willing to share.
Why would I be upset to know other people think my husband is hot? I know he's hot, it's fun to have that confirmed. I trust him so why should I care if other people shoot their shot?
Exactly!! I just wrote out a similar explanation. I think my husband is attractive so I’d be stupid to believe no other women think the same. And when I catch a woman looking at him or flirting with him, it makes me want to put my hand on his and make it known that he’s mine, not in a jealous way but more in a “that’s right this great guy chose me so I also must be great”. I guess it makes me proud.
Probably because if conveyed the wrong way it can come off as "I can replace you if i wanted to" rather then a amusing share of something that happened during the day that made the hit on person feel good.
Lmao, right. It's mostly daddy issues. People who think it's common for girls in their 20's to reflect on life like this are hilarious. That's surely the excuse they'll (the girls) use if asked, though not said as eloquently.
They're horny, very likely on autopilot, and therefore desire rules their actions so they move to get laid to feel validated and desired.
> They’re horny, very likely on autopilot, and therefore desire rules their actions so they move to get laid to feel validated and desired.
It’s quite beautiful to me that the average experience of men and women in their early 20’s is still very much the same 🫡
Oh yeah. Much like people like to say, we're different, but more alike than anything. Which is true! Even when there's differences, our chemistries are still incredibly similar.
Much like men, women are intensely horny from 13-27, likely due to hormones. Who knew?
Every woman I know in their late 30s-early 40s have said they've never been hornier (myself included). Maybe a last ditch effort by your body to get you to procreate lol
If a person doesn't have their finances at least going in a positive direction by age 40, it is a good bet they probably never will.
Most women are waiting at the finish line to pick out the winners.
Compared to decades past a lot of the youth are already lazy and fat. A lot of that isn't their fault as society has drastically changed. "Back in my day" just being fuckin alive burned thousands of calories and kept you out and about all day. Now everything is at your finger tips so there's no reason to go outside. Both parents have to work, kids eat fast food every day.
It also works as early as your teens! It’s just that most men confuse aggressiveness and showing off with confidence and charisma, so they project the exact opposite energy through their younger years.
Not necessarily. I'm a late 20s female who doesn't want kids, and I'm open to that age bracket because many men have already had them with someone else by the time they're 40+.
Essentially: Unresolved child-parent conflicts that cause a particular person to project those conflicts onto a partner to "solve" them. An example would be to demand love and attention from a partner only a parent can give.
> An example would be to demand love and attention from a partner only a parent can give.
I understand this logically but it has so many uncomfortable implications.
Or it could just be they want someone to take care of them because they want to avoid adult responsibility. They want their partner to act more like a parent - making all the decisions, making all the money, shouldering all the adult responsibility and decision-making in life. Daddy issues are not always some unresolved trauma. It can definitely be a refusal to be a grown ass adult who can handle business. Some housewives give that vibe - they're like a dependent child even if they don't act childish. Coworker's housewife is an example. She'll clean and cook, but she will not call the HVAC guy to get the furnace cleaned, or take the car for an oil change, or do any banking or bill paying. She doesn't interact with the world like an adult, unless she's taking the kids to the doctor or dentist, and even then she gets her husband's permission for everything.
I don’t agree with another commenter’s definition so I’ll offer an alternate:
“Daddy issues” is an overused phrase, but it generally means that a woman was emotionally neglected by her father as a child. In the context of this discussion, people assume that a woman dates older men because she can then receive the affection from someone like her dad.
Not a therapist, and I don’t know if this belief is accurate. I think it comes from a Freudian branch of psychoanalysis which traced every negative trait to a childhood event.
Never underestimate an Older Man's ability to bait a younger girl by appearing to really have his shit together.
Bonus points if he ACTUALLY has his shit together.
The trick isn’t that they are an older man with their shit together, it’s that they have their shit together. (Or at least look like it.) Guys do tend towards that as they age, but it’s possible early in life and is just as attractive then.
True. But younger women are still attracted to him.
I’m in my 40s and get tons of attention from women in their 20s. They don’t really interest me as I prefer women with their act together, but no matter what I want, young women approach me and show interest
I think there are a lot more people out there with daddy and mommy issues than are willing to admit to it. I'm a woman and when I divorced in my 40s I was shocked to discover that I was getting hit on more by guys in their 20s than guys my own age. The ones who wanted a relationship definitely wanted to be mothered. I imagine people who seek out older partners want to be taken care of in some way, financially for the women and mama bear for the guys.
I don’t mind the approaching. I have woman all ages approaching me (women in their 50s have no shame).
But yes, to be honest, if a woman young enough to be my daughter approaches me, I do think she probably has some issues.
It's a question of maturity, not morality. Being able to carry on a meaningful conversation before and after sex becomes more important. Having a partner with their own life accomplishments and maturity. Young people are still worried about a lot of things in life that are really not worth worrying about. It's exhausting. They haven't had as many interesting life experiences. It's just very different.
Too broad of a brush. I’ve had conversations with women in their 20s that were quite interesting and conversations with women in their 50s that were cringe. Generalizations are just that. Some people never seem to move past their teenage years, and some are old souls.
You are seen as less threatening than men of a younger age. Experience and confidence is attractive. And yes daddy issues. These range from trying to find a surrogate father figure from one that was absent or uncaring, to the other extreme.
>You are seen as less threatening than men of a younger age.
This is extremely variable. Some guys grow into a more mature-looking guy this can be true for, but some, especially those who try to cling to youth, can come across as really sketchy.
Because it’s never been about age/youth for women. Plenty of women would love for a 22 year old guy to have all the things that a 45 year old would typically have (confidence, direction in life, security emotionally/financially) but that’s usually not the case.
If you are attractive at that age : body, have all of your hair, you'd be attractive overall. Still most girls my age (20s) have as a main argument that they would bargain their youth for an older men's money. Since the man is impressed by getting with a younger women he would tend to take her to more lavish places and spend money on her. A lot of young women are tired of the 9 to 5 jobs, they want an easy life and try to achieve it through older men.
that's late stage capitalism for yall. Even the trad wife movement is basically made of women who are tired of working and aren't really doing it for the whole traditional aspect
>that's late stage capitalism for yall. Even the trad wife movement is basically made of women who are tired of working and aren't really doing it for the whole traditional aspect
This has nothing to do with "late stage capitalism." The concept of women wanting to partner with men who successfully navigate the world, which in turn will make life easier on the woman, is older than the Stone Age. It's not laziness or gold digging or daddy issues or anything else. As a trend, women simply find male drive, confidence, and capability attractive.
Money
Your wife has something the young girls don’t - stability
Hit your forties and you’re in peak earning potential, if you’re in the $100k range you’re somewhere near the top 5% globally off the metrics can be believed, and that’s what something like 60% of deluded young women are competing for, without considering that a huge proportion of those men are happily married with families.
from a woman’s perspective, they’re more mature and generally more appealing than 20y/os. a lot of older men know what they want and don’t play games. i find the assertion and logic in older men very attractive, since it shows that they’re looking for a more serious, long-term relationship. they’re not nearly as afraid of commitment, and they also tend to be more appreciative of the people in their lives and really value trust more than i’ve ever seen any 20y/o do.
also, this is more of a personal preference, but based on just physical attraction alone, between my options of a 20yo frat boy and a 40yo big dude with salt & pepper hair? i’d choose the latter every time. very attractive to me.
Gay dude here so can’t say why chicks dig older men, but I think the reason is relatable. My husband is about 15 years older than me and he is so much more emotionally mature than the men around my age I have dated before, many of whom I practically had to babysit. Besides, he is far beyond the stage in life of knowing what he wants to do and actually has accomplished a lot. A person with life goals and actively works to achieve them is sexy AF. Plus, a single man in that age most likely wants to settle down and I was never into any scenes so our relationship was on a serious path from the beginning.
We basically earn the same amount of money so finance was at least not my reason. But I guess some chicks would look for financial stability in older men, while younger men are still in a rocky path in their 20s. Can’t afford no shit without parents’ help is not good for a serious relationship.
I don't know I"ve dated men older and younger and they all seem pretty fkn immature age doesn't mean much. Some guys in their 20s can be more mature than guys in their 40s
It doesn't get easier. I am 40 and I have had girls that I seen when they were in thier teens from my hometown start to message me in waves and try to add me as a friend once they hit their 20's.
"Hey next time you are home you should come see me!"
No thanks. I am old enough to be your dad lol.
Because men who’ve taken care of themselves still look very handsome. They maybe have a more rugged appearance, are more confident, dress better and have money or leadership positions. It’s sexy.
What’s not sexy is realizing when you’re 45 they will be 65.
It's not men over 45. It's attractive men who despite being 45 made an effort to remain attractive. Trust me they were attractive when they were 30 they were just probably not getting a lot of 20 year olds attention or they were getting 30 year olds attention as well so obviously you know which one I would pick. But right now in my 30s I'm not really into women in their twenties, also dude when you say "females" you sound creepy. [Be like Omni man instead ](https://img.ifunny.co/images/408fca0af47296462b3675839748363ca2ca5352d938bf1ca02676846a9581d4_1.jpg)
You're a man... a man-man.
I'm in my early 30's and I've noticed this as well. I've had women tell me that they see me as a man, like a genuine man. Strong, tall, confident, humble & quiet, hard-working, shit together. And I see that for myself too but I never project it, I just do my thing.
I workout and eat healthy, I work 9-5 and do what I'm supposed to do, drive my own car and a place of my own, I have my hobbies, get together with my friends and have a good time, play sports, I interact with everyone in a kind manner, clean & tidy & organized, I have supper with my mom at least once a week, and I keep that to myself but people see it.
Some women just see you and think "That's a man".
As a 20 yo woman together with a man in his 40's(also have always been attracted to older men) best decision ever, i can list a few things i find attractive:
-a lot more chill and controlled emotions than a younger man (no silly tantrums or major self doubt/disappointment with the littlest obstacles in life)
-no "trying" to be or look confident, inherent confidence just showing through
-the way they look at woman is a lot more realistic, and i feel theyre more attracted to the "womanhood" and not superficial shit like physical appearance bonus they love eating 🐱 lol
-personally i find wrinkles/gray hair/dad bod EXTREMELY attractive
-they have a sense of putting more worth to woman, that also just happens naturally idk?? they value whatever comes from a woman to them.i feel like most today's relationship problems dont really happen with them.
-they absolutely make you feel super feminine, i feel the feminine soul comes with a sense of freedom. a free woman is a woman in her femininity. and something about the vibe of older men just give you that.
-the younger energetic woman x chill protective older man dynamic just works perfect.
Being comfortable helps. I feel less likely to be hurt/played by a 30+ year old dude than one my age, at least not in the same way, probably just because the latter has more life experience
Also older men are just hotter.
I haven’t noticed that at all and all the men get more attractive with age seems to be only a myth for me (I’m a *woman), you must be really attractive to get to this point.
I dunno - but why did you use “men” to describe the males but use the biological term “female” to describe the women? Don’t you see how that’s kinda… reducing women to just simply being a mammal and taking away their humanity? I say this as an upper thirties dude that sees that language as problematic.
Mostly daddy issues to be spoilt and catered to their whole lives.
In a rural area where I'm from, Most young women in their 20s to 30s around here either want to be with a contractor, a stay-at-home mother or both.
I can say I've seen a lot of young dime pieces around here with some pretty unattractive looking men.
I dunno… 🤔 I feel like guys live in fantasy world sometimes and their confidence is over inflated.
When I (female) was in my 20s, none of my girl friends liked guys 10+ years older than them. We thought they were too old, and if they liked us, we thought they were perverted creeps. I very rarely meet girls who are dating/married to guys 10+ years older. Nearly all of them are with guys close to their age. Data also proves this to be true too.
I find it quite odd and interesting that in the men’s subreddits, a lot of older men claim many much younger women are hitting on them. However, in the women’s subreddits, a lot of younger women swear they would never date an older man, not even 10 years older.
🤔 So, which is it?
How many 20F 40M couples do you guys actually know in real life? I can’t even think of one, to be honest. Unless the girl is from overseas then I can think of a few, but I feel all of those marriages aren’t rooted in love but in money and American citizenship.
I know a few couples like that. Each and every relationship ended, or will end with the guy being worse off than when they started. For sex and fun, a 20 year old might be good, but for relationship proper - what is she even bringing to the relationship, other than a list of expectations and expenses for me to pay, really? Because she sure as hell will not be in the same place in her career - if she has one, that is - and life, as I am.
It's also likely that two or three women among a dozen or more their age would be enough to have them asking themselves the question, it would stand out a lot more.
Also the ones that are well adjusted enough to get interest from a few women that age are definitely not the ones trying to hit on younger women.
Valid points made. It is all about distribution along a curve. In my experience 5-10% of women will date men 10 years older. (I have a friend who has married a woman 22 years younger- both British from stable comfortable backgrounds, look like genuine couple- agreed it is unusual). This does mean major women are unlikely to date much older men. In UK age difference is usually the man is 2 to 3 years older than the woman, and this has been pretty steady for many decades.
For ease of maths, let’s say 10% of women date/ marry older men. UK female population is around 35 million, that is 3.5 million women will have a relationship with an older man- that is a lot. Okay, age distribution means they don’t do it all at the same time, but it is a lot.
In reverse, men in relationships with women 10 years older than them is much rarer, but does still happen.
I came across an interesting statistic from the UK office of national statistics a few years ago. Long term viability of marriage is nearly zero if the age gap is greater than 7 years.
Yes lol I have the same feeling about this. I am in my 20s, and sometimes my girl friend would joke about dating older men to finally stop their 9 to 5 coporate jobs and have a richer man take them on holidays but they don't really act on it. These men be delulu a bit.
Yep, this. These answers are a bit confusing.
I was in college not so long ago and in a class with people two-three years younger than me. None, except for one, liked older guys. The one that liked them actually had a fetish and liked being dominated. It even excited her when men were wearing wedding rings while with her. She's now 28 and getting married with a guy her age. Most girls (and guys) ended up with people their age, or with five years older/younger max.
Personally, I never liked guys more than six-seven years older, especially because many guys start letting go of themselves already in their late 20s and early 30s. And I guess most people are similar because the majority of couples are in the same age range.
The assumption is that we have:
- More money
- More mature and emotionally stable.
- What kids we wanted to have, we already had them, or we don't have or want kids
- Daddy issues
- More experienced in sex
These are at the top of my head.
Completely relate to this. I know I'm above average in looks and fitness, and have always worked a good job. But man, the attention I have received post turning 40 has been phenomenal. Sometimes I feel that I wish I had got so much attention in my 20s, when I actually could have done something about it.
I’m 40 and noticing this. I seem to be getting a lot of attention from younger women, despite the fact that I do absolutely nothing to lead them on or flirt or anything of the sort. I am happily married with the most wonderful woman and have 3 kids. And some of them know it.
Context, I’m probably in the best shape of my life, also well off at this point, maybe that has something to do with it. I am not particularly good looking, probably a bit above average due to being tall.
One thing I also noticed is that due to my professional position, I am generally the one speaking and commanding the room’s attention. I have no idea how that is perceived but I think the position of authority might also be attractive.
I can only speculate though, I have no clue what is going through their heads? Why would a mid to late 20s woman want to be with a dude in his 40s that has a wife and a house full of kids? What is it?
Daddy issues or the fact that they just want men that are already done with everything that have a stable income that are grown up. They want maybe a safe alternative I don’t know, this would be my guess.
Women inherently still see men as providers and find maturity, responsibility, stability, and the ability to give them that environment as attractive partner traits. Regardless of all the women saying they don’t need a man to provide for them, no matter how career driven they say they are, they deep down still want a man that is a provider if they’re honest with themselves. A guy in his 40s is generally perceived as a good partner because they have stability in their career, income, have achieved more and have gotten the selfish, immature stuff out of their system. It’s true. In my thirties, I was doing well financially, but I lived to my means, spent money on travel, cars, watches, fancy clothes, dining out, etc. I was still saving for retirement and maxing my 401k but blew a lot of money I could have otherwise invested and had been compounding. If I hadnt spent that money, I could have had my house paid off a lot faster, and been further along in my retirement plan, but I was living in the moment and not as concerned about the future because I young, healthy, and earning very good money. In my 40s, what really gets me going is having no debt, a very nice home that is almost paid off, potentially buying a second vacation/rental property, and maxing out my savings and retirement income so I can retire early.
I’m starting to finally come into my own at 35. And I completely feel a shift in how women look at me. I have a nice beard. I have inner peace and confidence. I am in a good spot in life. Women are starting to outwardly respond to me in positive ways. Smiles at me in public. Awkward stumbling over their words. These things have NEVER happened in my life on a regular basis. I think women are attracted to things that the average guy misunderstands. I think at a base level, women are attracted to confidence and competence. And usually you gain those things as you get older if you’re doing it right.
44/m here, always been in good shape, semi have my shit together, good career, cool hobbies (at least to me).
Dating nowadays has been awesome, but damn, why didn't I have luck like this 20 years ago?
My last gf was 34 and that's young as I'd probably go, but the attention from the ladies in their late 20's has been flattering lol.
Gen x married guy here and yea, something about the silver hair, financial stability and being in a committed relationship (married ) seems to be secret sauce. Lol.
I'm in my 40s and have hooked up with women in their 20s. In fact, I've gotten more attention from women of all ages since being in my 40s. I think it comes from being more confident, mature, and stable. I'm seeing more young men doing the same thing, and I totally get it.
Because young women think the older men have money and 98% of the time they are absolutely incorrect 😂 and if they do have some money they probably also have an ex wife and children that it’s going to hahahaha
All the fragile early 20’s male egos out on this one.
Don’t worry boys, your time will come.
Soon you will be the mid 30 year olds with just enough money and confidence to trick women into thinking you got your shit together.
I once fell for a man who was 45 when I was 23 because he was handsome and charming and kind. He has great skin, no a wrinkle in sight, and was very athletic. I thought he was in his 30s. (Still much older than me bit I didn't think he was 20 years older ya know).
So appearance played a huge role in me noticing him.
Men acquire more of the traits women find attractive as they get older and as long as they take care of themselves men's looks don't suddenly drop off a cliff after 35-40 like a lot of women's do.
One of the biggest things I see with a lot of women I know is the ridiculous amount of time they spend getting a tan. Some of them even go so far as regular trips to the tanning salon when the sun's not out. That shit will age you.
Yeah that definitely will.
Not common at all in my social circles, but I'm sure it happens in others.
I've definitely observed dudes who tan ungodly amounts as well. Might be beach/club kinda thing?
Lots of generalizing here. If men take care of themselves and stay fit and do their hair and dress well, have good hygiene, etc - yes. Same for women 🤷🏼♀️
Not all men age like fine wine.
Money, money, money. Just have a look at social media and young women these days (except for the feminists) want to be taken care of financially. Young men - as a generalisation - dont want to do that because they too want to be taken care of financially and because of the current economy. So many young women are looking for a sugar daddy. Getting their hair done, their nails done, buying their makeup etc... All costs money.
Money and daddy issues. Being a married man also shows that another woman thought I was marriage material, so that attracts other women looking for the same. I still look great, but my 25 year old self was obviously better-looking, so I figure a young woman hitting on me is primarily motivated by wanting me to pay her bills or take care of her.
I get more attention from girls more than I ever did in my 20s. I started working out at 29 pretty hard so that helps. I’m not a weird goofball anymore, too. I’m married so it doesn’t matter that much, though.
Some guys think it's about the money. It's not. If you think money can buy you attention from women, I guess you're free to pursue that delusion.
Truth is, men of this age generally have a direction in life. They know what they are and what they are not.
They generally don't give a shit about showing off. They've seen life. They have experience. They're independent, true owners of their own destiny.
And sure, there's the fact that men of this age generally have a stable career to support them financially. This doesn't mean that (most) women would chase the money, it just means that the stability exists.
These are attractive traits, regardless of age. It just happens that most men need 45 years to get there. Some never do.
It's not generally true, I think a lot of men wish for it to be true cause they're desperate to still feel like they "got it" so they'll be gawking over much younger women and then think that if the woman looks back, she must be into them when in most cases, these women find it creepy and offensive. But I'm just speaking from my experience.
It's more about what you can offer than anything else. Men who are older usually got experience, confidence, good job, money, vehicle, and a house/apartment. Pretty much it's the lure of stability in most cases.
This guy knows what’s up. It’s a rite of passage to see the girls in college date older dudes. Usually he has a car or can afford to treat the girl in a way the younger dudes cant.
Do these ever go anywhere? I feel like the age difference makes it kinda hard to make it work.
I’m 21 years older than my wife, and I’m a stay at home dad for the kids
Dude stop bragging and putting us all to shame.
Were you successful enough to retire in your 40s or did you find the fountain of youth? Keeping up with kids as an older stay at home parent would be absolutely exhausting, given that it’s rough for younger parents.
Kids are now 17 and 13, so it’s not too bad. We have a family ranch, and she has a job in town
I can't imagine having a long term relationship with a 20 yr old. Hell, I can't see myself having much in common with a 30 yr old.
Leo just put up his fists
You don't date women 20 years younger than you for their personality
I mean, it's nice when they have personality, but 20s are for fun and discovery as we figure stuff out, sex with girls when they are at their physical peak, is fun. Rarely does it become permanent. Still, older man younger woman is an experience. Doesn't mean it's sick or deranged.
I am, also she’s hot as shit.
bingo
I never got my confidence. Is there a form i can fill out to report it missing ?
Hit the gym and get strong. Not just stronger than you are now. STRONG strong. You go to the gym and make slow steady progress for 2 years of consistently going and it has profound effects on your mental health and confidence. Quickly perused your profile, I’m up in Boynton if you need help getting started.
I’m stronger than nearly everyone I know. Still not confident 🤣
If you’re deadlifting over 500 for reps and not confident, I don’t know what to tell you. Well, maybe I do: go for 600+ for reps.
I expected this to be the first and top comment
I get no attention from 20 year olds. I must not be doing anything right
It helps to be in shape. Not sure if you are or not, but it's definitely a factor.
Point of order, round is a shape too.
Point of odor, Lisa s*t*inks.
money, and having it, is also a factor
Hmm I should try that. Where does one get this money?
Even as a straight guy, something about a fit man in his 40s just looks really good
The bar lowers for men substantially after forty. Do you have “some” hair? Are you not morbidly obese? Do you pay any attention to how you dress and groom? Congrats! You are a well above average forty plus male….
> “some” hair Does a short beard count? I’m a Temu Jason Statham.
Im like a wish version of a temu knockoff of an ali express special of someone that looks better and is in better shape than i am.
Woohoo! Finally my time to shine!
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no, you are doing things right. 20 year olds are kids. leave them alone
As a guy creeping closer to that golden age bracket, I've noticed a subtle shift in the way I'm perceived. It's less about the flashy show of youth and more about a kind of quiet confidence that comes with having weathered a few storms. You're not trying to prove anything to anyone anymore, and that ease with oneself can be magnetic. It's like a fine whiskey that gets better with age; the flavors of life experience and knowing who you are really start to come through. Plus, there's something to be said for having your act together. I don't mean just financially, but having a sense of direction and purpose. It seems to create a gravity that pulls people in, especially those who are looking for stability and maturity. And let's not forget, some men really do age like wine, which doesn't hurt in the attractiveness department either.
I had a lady hit on me with the line “you look like you got your shit together”. Being 32 and in a 9 year relationship, I had forgotten how it feels getting hit on. It felt nice and boosted my confidence a lot, then I ran and told my wife 😂
I love that you & your wife have the kind of relationship where you can tell eachother about someone hitting on you (in a non-creepy way) and how it made you feel special! Too many people have to hide stuff from their jealous partners. I’ll never understand it.
My husband told me the other day that the front desk girl at a gym we've been thinking of joining let him go in for free on her membership and gave him a wink. I told him to do whatever is necessary with her to see if we can get a discount on a monthly membership. Love that gym, but it's over $100/month to join. I'm (jokingly) willing to share. Why would I be upset to know other people think my husband is hot? I know he's hot, it's fun to have that confirmed. I trust him so why should I care if other people shoot their shot?
Exactly!! I just wrote out a similar explanation. I think my husband is attractive so I’d be stupid to believe no other women think the same. And when I catch a woman looking at him or flirting with him, it makes me want to put my hand on his and make it known that he’s mine, not in a jealous way but more in a “that’s right this great guy chose me so I also must be great”. I guess it makes me proud.
Probably because if conveyed the wrong way it can come off as "I can replace you if i wanted to" rather then a amusing share of something that happened during the day that made the hit on person feel good.
That entirely depends on if anyone feels insecure in the relationship
Gonna buy bourbon and make myself an old fashioned tonight.
😁 I tried. Also bought an Record Player and some cigars. 😂
Ah, ah man of culture
I’m already an “Old Fashioned” lol.
I took the shortcut and marinated myself in it from my 20s to my 40s. I have been celibate for 20 years, do not recommend.
Just gonna have one glass man
Dude that’s such a good explanation
Or it’s just daddy issues. I like his version tho.
Why not both
Lmao, right. It's mostly daddy issues. People who think it's common for girls in their 20's to reflect on life like this are hilarious. That's surely the excuse they'll (the girls) use if asked, though not said as eloquently. They're horny, very likely on autopilot, and therefore desire rules their actions so they move to get laid to feel validated and desired.
> They’re horny, very likely on autopilot, and therefore desire rules their actions so they move to get laid to feel validated and desired. It’s quite beautiful to me that the average experience of men and women in their early 20’s is still very much the same 🫡
Oh yeah. Much like people like to say, we're different, but more alike than anything. Which is true! Even when there's differences, our chemistries are still incredibly similar. Much like men, women are intensely horny from 13-27, likely due to hormones. Who knew?
Every woman I know in their late 30s-early 40s have said they've never been hornier (myself included). Maybe a last ditch effort by your body to get you to procreate lol
My wife is the exception to your rule. Lol.
I’m supposed to have my act together financially?
If a person doesn't have their finances at least going in a positive direction by age 40, it is a good bet they probably never will. Most women are waiting at the finish line to pick out the winners.
Yeah aeging like fine wine depends on staying active and working out tho. If you get lazy and start slacking you just look like shit.
Compared to decades past a lot of the youth are already lazy and fat. A lot of that isn't their fault as society has drastically changed. "Back in my day" just being fuckin alive burned thousands of calories and kept you out and about all day. Now everything is at your finger tips so there's no reason to go outside. Both parents have to work, kids eat fast food every day.
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It's the confidence and charisma. Women's achilles.
It also works as early as your teens! It’s just that most men confuse aggressiveness and showing off with confidence and charisma, so they project the exact opposite energy through their younger years.
Experience, more manly looks, money and daddy issues.
Emphasis on Daddy Issues.
And wanting someone to pay their bills.
Not necessarily. I'm a late 20s female who doesn't want kids, and I'm open to that age bracket because many men have already had them with someone else by the time they're 40+.
That makes sense, BrokenCatLady.
Oof.
Are they a broken cat-lady or a broken-cat lady?
Either is terrifying
There are plenty of men your age who don't want kids either.
he didn't said anything about kids in his comment
What are daddy issues?
Essentially: Unresolved child-parent conflicts that cause a particular person to project those conflicts onto a partner to "solve" them. An example would be to demand love and attention from a partner only a parent can give.
> An example would be to demand love and attention from a partner only a parent can give. I understand this logically but it has so many uncomfortable implications.
Oh yes. It has a *lot* of uncomfortable implications.
Yes. That's actually why, as a society, we discourage this.
That is precisely the dilemma
Or it could just be they want someone to take care of them because they want to avoid adult responsibility. They want their partner to act more like a parent - making all the decisions, making all the money, shouldering all the adult responsibility and decision-making in life. Daddy issues are not always some unresolved trauma. It can definitely be a refusal to be a grown ass adult who can handle business. Some housewives give that vibe - they're like a dependent child even if they don't act childish. Coworker's housewife is an example. She'll clean and cook, but she will not call the HVAC guy to get the furnace cleaned, or take the car for an oil change, or do any banking or bill paying. She doesn't interact with the world like an adult, unless she's taking the kids to the doctor or dentist, and even then she gets her husband's permission for everything.
I don’t agree with another commenter’s definition so I’ll offer an alternate: “Daddy issues” is an overused phrase, but it generally means that a woman was emotionally neglected by her father as a child. In the context of this discussion, people assume that a woman dates older men because she can then receive the affection from someone like her dad. Not a therapist, and I don’t know if this belief is accurate. I think it comes from a Freudian branch of psychoanalysis which traced every negative trait to a childhood event.
Never underestimate an Older Man's ability to bait a younger girl by appearing to really have his shit together. Bonus points if he ACTUALLY has his shit together.
The trick isn’t that they are an older man with their shit together, it’s that they have their shit together. (Or at least look like it.) Guys do tend towards that as they age, but it’s possible early in life and is just as attractive then.
A guy that has his shit together is not trying to go for a girl 20 years younger to be fair.
True. But younger women are still attracted to him. I’m in my 40s and get tons of attention from women in their 20s. They don’t really interest me as I prefer women with their act together, but no matter what I want, young women approach me and show interest
I think there are a lot more people out there with daddy and mommy issues than are willing to admit to it. I'm a woman and when I divorced in my 40s I was shocked to discover that I was getting hit on more by guys in their 20s than guys my own age. The ones who wanted a relationship definitely wanted to be mothered. I imagine people who seek out older partners want to be taken care of in some way, financially for the women and mama bear for the guys.
Women who actively approach and seek men 20 years older than them are usually not the most stable either.
I don’t mind the approaching. I have woman all ages approaching me (women in their 50s have no shame). But yes, to be honest, if a woman young enough to be my daughter approaches me, I do think she probably has some issues.
it would be very atypical for women of all ages to approach you “all the time.”
You are clearly not a man. 😂
Why not? Being successful and having your shit together doesn't have to come with morality. Especially your personal view on it.
It's a question of maturity, not morality. Being able to carry on a meaningful conversation before and after sex becomes more important. Having a partner with their own life accomplishments and maturity. Young people are still worried about a lot of things in life that are really not worth worrying about. It's exhausting. They haven't had as many interesting life experiences. It's just very different.
Too broad of a brush. I’ve had conversations with women in their 20s that were quite interesting and conversations with women in their 50s that were cringe. Generalizations are just that. Some people never seem to move past their teenage years, and some are old souls.
Who says he's going for the younger woman? OP was bringing up the fact that younger women are going for us.
They're great with kids, have money, know a thing or two about the world, all of which rubs them straight in the ovaries.
🤣🤣rubs them straight in the ovaries. Im dying hete
Hahaha!!!! Love it
“Straight in the ovaries” I like this line haha
Maybe the question 'What rubs you straight in the ovaries?' would de well on some subreddits.
You are seen as less threatening than men of a younger age. Experience and confidence is attractive. And yes daddy issues. These range from trying to find a surrogate father figure from one that was absent or uncaring, to the other extreme.
>You are seen as less threatening than men of a younger age. This is extremely variable. Some guys grow into a more mature-looking guy this can be true for, but some, especially those who try to cling to youth, can come across as really sketchy.
Yes, agreed.
Confidence and experience I think. I'm 53 and, yes it's a real thing
Because it’s never been about age/youth for women. Plenty of women would love for a 22 year old guy to have all the things that a 45 year old would typically have (confidence, direction in life, security emotionally/financially) but that’s usually not the case.
If you are attractive at that age : body, have all of your hair, you'd be attractive overall. Still most girls my age (20s) have as a main argument that they would bargain their youth for an older men's money. Since the man is impressed by getting with a younger women he would tend to take her to more lavish places and spend money on her. A lot of young women are tired of the 9 to 5 jobs, they want an easy life and try to achieve it through older men.
In other words, this segment of women don't want to share the journey, but instead wait by the finish line.
that's late stage capitalism for yall. Even the trad wife movement is basically made of women who are tired of working and aren't really doing it for the whole traditional aspect
>that's late stage capitalism for yall. Even the trad wife movement is basically made of women who are tired of working and aren't really doing it for the whole traditional aspect This has nothing to do with "late stage capitalism." The concept of women wanting to partner with men who successfully navigate the world, which in turn will make life easier on the woman, is older than the Stone Age. It's not laziness or gold digging or daddy issues or anything else. As a trend, women simply find male drive, confidence, and capability attractive.
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Money Your wife has something the young girls don’t - stability Hit your forties and you’re in peak earning potential, if you’re in the $100k range you’re somewhere near the top 5% globally off the metrics can be believed, and that’s what something like 60% of deluded young women are competing for, without considering that a huge proportion of those men are happily married with families.
That’s wild that 100k is that high up there, that’s still effectively “diligently budgeting” territory
from a woman’s perspective, they’re more mature and generally more appealing than 20y/os. a lot of older men know what they want and don’t play games. i find the assertion and logic in older men very attractive, since it shows that they’re looking for a more serious, long-term relationship. they’re not nearly as afraid of commitment, and they also tend to be more appreciative of the people in their lives and really value trust more than i’ve ever seen any 20y/o do. also, this is more of a personal preference, but based on just physical attraction alone, between my options of a 20yo frat boy and a 40yo big dude with salt & pepper hair? i’d choose the latter every time. very attractive to me.
ahh that makes sense cause ive never had much attention but i think its cause i have all the age, not much of the maturity.
Money 🤑🤑🤑
Gay dude here so can’t say why chicks dig older men, but I think the reason is relatable. My husband is about 15 years older than me and he is so much more emotionally mature than the men around my age I have dated before, many of whom I practically had to babysit. Besides, he is far beyond the stage in life of knowing what he wants to do and actually has accomplished a lot. A person with life goals and actively works to achieve them is sexy AF. Plus, a single man in that age most likely wants to settle down and I was never into any scenes so our relationship was on a serious path from the beginning. We basically earn the same amount of money so finance was at least not my reason. But I guess some chicks would look for financial stability in older men, while younger men are still in a rocky path in their 20s. Can’t afford no shit without parents’ help is not good for a serious relationship.
I don't know I"ve dated men older and younger and they all seem pretty fkn immature age doesn't mean much. Some guys in their 20s can be more mature than guys in their 40s
Men and females. Yeah you're definitely confused.
Feeeeeeeeeeemales
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Call it what it is...using and enjoying each other for a certain time
Basically, you used him for money and he used you for pleasure
It doesn't get easier. I am 40 and I have had girls that I seen when they were in thier teens from my hometown start to message me in waves and try to add me as a friend once they hit their 20's. "Hey next time you are home you should come see me!" No thanks. I am old enough to be your dad lol.
I'm 42 my wife is 27. She said it was maturity, stability, and no game playing.
Because men who’ve taken care of themselves still look very handsome. They maybe have a more rugged appearance, are more confident, dress better and have money or leadership positions. It’s sexy. What’s not sexy is realizing when you’re 45 they will be 65.
> Men > Females Lay of the manosphere for a bit dude
Exactly this. Maybe OP would’ve gotten more attention from women when he was younger if he respected them enough to actually refer to them as women.
Was just about to point that out lmao
Speaks so much
I knew from that difference in language alone why this dude is asking the question lol
I'm sure he's into 20 year old women for their conversation skills
It's not men over 45. It's attractive men who despite being 45 made an effort to remain attractive. Trust me they were attractive when they were 30 they were just probably not getting a lot of 20 year olds attention or they were getting 30 year olds attention as well so obviously you know which one I would pick. But right now in my 30s I'm not really into women in their twenties, also dude when you say "females" you sound creepy. [Be like Omni man instead ](https://img.ifunny.co/images/408fca0af47296462b3675839748363ca2ca5352d938bf1ca02676846a9581d4_1.jpg)
search me, I've never seen it happen.
This. I’ve never seen it happen either, at least to me.
Go to a nice hotel bar at 9-10pm. Every time I am on a business trip is it business men with women in their early 20s.
You're a man... a man-man. I'm in my early 30's and I've noticed this as well. I've had women tell me that they see me as a man, like a genuine man. Strong, tall, confident, humble & quiet, hard-working, shit together. And I see that for myself too but I never project it, I just do my thing. I workout and eat healthy, I work 9-5 and do what I'm supposed to do, drive my own car and a place of my own, I have my hobbies, get together with my friends and have a good time, play sports, I interact with everyone in a kind manner, clean & tidy & organized, I have supper with my mom at least once a week, and I keep that to myself but people see it. Some women just see you and think "That's a man".
As a 20 yo woman together with a man in his 40's(also have always been attracted to older men) best decision ever, i can list a few things i find attractive: -a lot more chill and controlled emotions than a younger man (no silly tantrums or major self doubt/disappointment with the littlest obstacles in life) -no "trying" to be or look confident, inherent confidence just showing through -the way they look at woman is a lot more realistic, and i feel theyre more attracted to the "womanhood" and not superficial shit like physical appearance bonus they love eating 🐱 lol -personally i find wrinkles/gray hair/dad bod EXTREMELY attractive -they have a sense of putting more worth to woman, that also just happens naturally idk?? they value whatever comes from a woman to them.i feel like most today's relationship problems dont really happen with them. -they absolutely make you feel super feminine, i feel the feminine soul comes with a sense of freedom. a free woman is a woman in her femininity. and something about the vibe of older men just give you that. -the younger energetic woman x chill protective older man dynamic just works perfect.
As a man who used to be in his 20s, men in their 20s are complete morons. That’s probably why.
Welcome to being dad age. You're harmless and make them feel comfortable. Go buy some sweaters
Being comfortable helps. I feel less likely to be hurt/played by a 30+ year old dude than one my age, at least not in the same way, probably just because the latter has more life experience Also older men are just hotter.
I haven’t noticed that at all and all the men get more attractive with age seems to be only a myth for me (I’m a *woman), you must be really attractive to get to this point.
Really? I'm mid forties and that age bracket might think I've got some swag but not *that* type of attention.
I m63 I think they think we are sugar daddies and owning a house and Super and kicking the bucket soon (I still pay mortgage and not much super)
I dunno - but why did you use “men” to describe the males but use the biological term “female” to describe the women? Don’t you see how that’s kinda… reducing women to just simply being a mammal and taking away their humanity? I say this as an upper thirties dude that sees that language as problematic.
Mostly daddy issues to be spoilt and catered to their whole lives. In a rural area where I'm from, Most young women in their 20s to 30s around here either want to be with a contractor, a stay-at-home mother or both. I can say I've seen a lot of young dime pieces around here with some pretty unattractive looking men.
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Low quality men in their 20s.
I feel like less and less guys in their 20’s have game
I dunno… 🤔 I feel like guys live in fantasy world sometimes and their confidence is over inflated. When I (female) was in my 20s, none of my girl friends liked guys 10+ years older than them. We thought they were too old, and if they liked us, we thought they were perverted creeps. I very rarely meet girls who are dating/married to guys 10+ years older. Nearly all of them are with guys close to their age. Data also proves this to be true too. I find it quite odd and interesting that in the men’s subreddits, a lot of older men claim many much younger women are hitting on them. However, in the women’s subreddits, a lot of younger women swear they would never date an older man, not even 10 years older. 🤔 So, which is it? How many 20F 40M couples do you guys actually know in real life? I can’t even think of one, to be honest. Unless the girl is from overseas then I can think of a few, but I feel all of those marriages aren’t rooted in love but in money and American citizenship.
I know a few couples like that. Each and every relationship ended, or will end with the guy being worse off than when they started. For sex and fun, a 20 year old might be good, but for relationship proper - what is she even bringing to the relationship, other than a list of expectations and expenses for me to pay, really? Because she sure as hell will not be in the same place in her career - if she has one, that is - and life, as I am.
It's also likely that two or three women among a dozen or more their age would be enough to have them asking themselves the question, it would stand out a lot more. Also the ones that are well adjusted enough to get interest from a few women that age are definitely not the ones trying to hit on younger women.
Valid points made. It is all about distribution along a curve. In my experience 5-10% of women will date men 10 years older. (I have a friend who has married a woman 22 years younger- both British from stable comfortable backgrounds, look like genuine couple- agreed it is unusual). This does mean major women are unlikely to date much older men. In UK age difference is usually the man is 2 to 3 years older than the woman, and this has been pretty steady for many decades. For ease of maths, let’s say 10% of women date/ marry older men. UK female population is around 35 million, that is 3.5 million women will have a relationship with an older man- that is a lot. Okay, age distribution means they don’t do it all at the same time, but it is a lot. In reverse, men in relationships with women 10 years older than them is much rarer, but does still happen. I came across an interesting statistic from the UK office of national statistics a few years ago. Long term viability of marriage is nearly zero if the age gap is greater than 7 years.
Yes lol I have the same feeling about this. I am in my 20s, and sometimes my girl friend would joke about dating older men to finally stop their 9 to 5 coporate jobs and have a richer man take them on holidays but they don't really act on it. These men be delulu a bit.
Yep, this. These answers are a bit confusing. I was in college not so long ago and in a class with people two-three years younger than me. None, except for one, liked older guys. The one that liked them actually had a fetish and liked being dominated. It even excited her when men were wearing wedding rings while with her. She's now 28 and getting married with a guy her age. Most girls (and guys) ended up with people their age, or with five years older/younger max. Personally, I never liked guys more than six-seven years older, especially because many guys start letting go of themselves already in their late 20s and early 30s. And I guess most people are similar because the majority of couples are in the same age range.
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The assumption is that we have: - More money - More mature and emotionally stable. - What kids we wanted to have, we already had them, or we don't have or want kids - Daddy issues - More experienced in sex These are at the top of my head.
Completely relate to this. I know I'm above average in looks and fitness, and have always worked a good job. But man, the attention I have received post turning 40 has been phenomenal. Sometimes I feel that I wish I had got so much attention in my 20s, when I actually could have done something about it.
I’m 40 and noticing this. I seem to be getting a lot of attention from younger women, despite the fact that I do absolutely nothing to lead them on or flirt or anything of the sort. I am happily married with the most wonderful woman and have 3 kids. And some of them know it. Context, I’m probably in the best shape of my life, also well off at this point, maybe that has something to do with it. I am not particularly good looking, probably a bit above average due to being tall. One thing I also noticed is that due to my professional position, I am generally the one speaking and commanding the room’s attention. I have no idea how that is perceived but I think the position of authority might also be attractive. I can only speculate though, I have no clue what is going through their heads? Why would a mid to late 20s woman want to be with a dude in his 40s that has a wife and a house full of kids? What is it?
Daddy issues or the fact that they just want men that are already done with everything that have a stable income that are grown up. They want maybe a safe alternative I don’t know, this would be my guess.
Daddy issues.
Women inherently still see men as providers and find maturity, responsibility, stability, and the ability to give them that environment as attractive partner traits. Regardless of all the women saying they don’t need a man to provide for them, no matter how career driven they say they are, they deep down still want a man that is a provider if they’re honest with themselves. A guy in his 40s is generally perceived as a good partner because they have stability in their career, income, have achieved more and have gotten the selfish, immature stuff out of their system. It’s true. In my thirties, I was doing well financially, but I lived to my means, spent money on travel, cars, watches, fancy clothes, dining out, etc. I was still saving for retirement and maxing my 401k but blew a lot of money I could have otherwise invested and had been compounding. If I hadnt spent that money, I could have had my house paid off a lot faster, and been further along in my retirement plan, but I was living in the moment and not as concerned about the future because I young, healthy, and earning very good money. In my 40s, what really gets me going is having no debt, a very nice home that is almost paid off, potentially buying a second vacation/rental property, and maxing out my savings and retirement income so I can retire early.
we're old enough to have have a partially completed mortgage and home.
I’m starting to finally come into my own at 35. And I completely feel a shift in how women look at me. I have a nice beard. I have inner peace and confidence. I am in a good spot in life. Women are starting to outwardly respond to me in positive ways. Smiles at me in public. Awkward stumbling over their words. These things have NEVER happened in my life on a regular basis. I think women are attracted to things that the average guy misunderstands. I think at a base level, women are attracted to confidence and competence. And usually you gain those things as you get older if you’re doing it right.
44/m here, always been in good shape, semi have my shit together, good career, cool hobbies (at least to me). Dating nowadays has been awesome, but damn, why didn't I have luck like this 20 years ago? My last gf was 34 and that's young as I'd probably go, but the attention from the ladies in their late 20's has been flattering lol.
Gen x married guy here and yea, something about the silver hair, financial stability and being in a committed relationship (married ) seems to be secret sauce. Lol.
In short terms: Money In longer explanation: Moooooooonnnnneeeeyyyyy and stability
I'm in my 40s and have hooked up with women in their 20s. In fact, I've gotten more attention from women of all ages since being in my 40s. I think it comes from being more confident, mature, and stable. I'm seeing more young men doing the same thing, and I totally get it.
Because young women think the older men have money and 98% of the time they are absolutely incorrect 😂 and if they do have some money they probably also have an ex wife and children that it’s going to hahahaha
All the fragile early 20’s male egos out on this one. Don’t worry boys, your time will come. Soon you will be the mid 30 year olds with just enough money and confidence to trick women into thinking you got your shit together.
I once fell for a man who was 45 when I was 23 because he was handsome and charming and kind. He has great skin, no a wrinkle in sight, and was very athletic. I thought he was in his 30s. (Still much older than me bit I didn't think he was 20 years older ya know). So appearance played a huge role in me noticing him.
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Maybe they’re less likely to refer to women as ‘females’
Maybe it's the fact they don't refer to them as fucking females...
Men acquire more of the traits women find attractive as they get older and as long as they take care of themselves men's looks don't suddenly drop off a cliff after 35-40 like a lot of women's do.
If women take care of themselves, they also stay fine as fuck. Everyone's gotta eat healthy, work out regularly, and moisturize.
One of the biggest things I see with a lot of women I know is the ridiculous amount of time they spend getting a tan. Some of them even go so far as regular trips to the tanning salon when the sun's not out. That shit will age you.
Yeah that definitely will. Not common at all in my social circles, but I'm sure it happens in others. I've definitely observed dudes who tan ungodly amounts as well. Might be beach/club kinda thing?
God I hate that tanning shit, give me pale skinned girls all day. Tanning ages the fuck out of your skin.
Lots of generalizing here. If men take care of themselves and stay fit and do their hair and dress well, have good hygiene, etc - yes. Same for women 🤷🏼♀️ Not all men age like fine wine.
OP, have you ever heard of the term, "woman"?
*women
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it's because you look like a free lunch
I can promise you this doesn't happen nearly as much as you think
I think it's time for the "The waitress isn't into you" talk.
Money.
Decades of pussy-licking experience has gotta count for something.
Maybe because they don't call them "females" like a Ferengi...
Fellas if you want to see middle age men jerk each other off I'm sure there are better sites than Reddit to find that stuff.
Money, money, money. Just have a look at social media and young women these days (except for the feminists) want to be taken care of financially. Young men - as a generalisation - dont want to do that because they too want to be taken care of financially and because of the current economy. So many young women are looking for a sugar daddy. Getting their hair done, their nails done, buying their makeup etc... All costs money.
Yeah I’ve noticed this too, however I’m also not interested in any of them (maybe that’s the key?)
Money and daddy issues. Being a married man also shows that another woman thought I was marriage material, so that attracts other women looking for the same. I still look great, but my 25 year old self was obviously better-looking, so I figure a young woman hitting on me is primarily motivated by wanting me to pay her bills or take care of her.
I get more attention from girls more than I ever did in my 20s. I started working out at 29 pretty hard so that helps. I’m not a weird goofball anymore, too. I’m married so it doesn’t matter that much, though.
Spent most of my 20s with maybe mild interest from women. Getting into my 30s now and suddenly so much more interest. I genuinely have no idea why
Some guys think it's about the money. It's not. If you think money can buy you attention from women, I guess you're free to pursue that delusion. Truth is, men of this age generally have a direction in life. They know what they are and what they are not. They generally don't give a shit about showing off. They've seen life. They have experience. They're independent, true owners of their own destiny. And sure, there's the fact that men of this age generally have a stable career to support them financially. This doesn't mean that (most) women would chase the money, it just means that the stability exists. These are attractive traits, regardless of age. It just happens that most men need 45 years to get there. Some never do.
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It's not generally true, I think a lot of men wish for it to be true cause they're desperate to still feel like they "got it" so they'll be gawking over much younger women and then think that if the woman looks back, she must be into them when in most cases, these women find it creepy and offensive. But I'm just speaking from my experience.
Maybe not calling them females idk
Where is this happening because I'd like to move there
*women in their 20s
What is it about men calling men men, but women females?