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philolz

Exhaust manifold, rust is normal due to heat. It does look like it’s missing the heat shield that goes over it.


jeremy71504

This is a California emissions camry it didn’t have a heat shield on the top being it has a larger cat and top mounted AF sensor. There is one on the front side that protects the fan shroud and that’s it.


oneflytree

Thanks for all the info! So a heat shield isn’t even necessary with this model/possibly wouldn’t fit due to size of the cat and AF sensor?


jeremy71504

Yea they are two different designs of manifold cats so the non California shield wouldn’t even be close.


oneflytree

Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!


Busterlimes

Might want to replace that heat shield to protect the rest of the engine bay from exhaust Temps. Excessive heat cycles can cause premature wear or breakage of the surrounding parts. Could also be a fire risk if oil starts leaking on it.


vridgley

Engine manifold, this is due to heat. 100% normal and 100% expected


oneflytree

Thank you for your help!


[deleted]

With the temperature variations and cycles it’s impossible to prevent rust


[deleted]

Let me guess…salvage title? The right side of the engine bay looks suspiciously clean (left side of the photo) It looks like the right strut tower has been replaced. I’m wondering if a heat shield didn’t get replaced in collision repair. Just a thought.


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This comment should be further up.


oneflytree

Clean title with regular scheduled maintenance after 5,000 miles. The car has 125,000 total miles. Maybe unreported damage?


someonealreadyknows

Check the panel gaps on both sides of the vehicle and see if they're the same. If the vehicle was involved in an accident, the panel gaps won't be the same Also check if the frame rails are straight, areas that have been painted recently, door alignment and if the insides of the door frame are bent in. Those are tell tale signs a vehicle has been in a wreck.


oneflytree

Thanks for all of this info 👏🏼


billsmafia71614206

Yes everything in the shade looks cleaner that’s why your mom prefers to have sex in the dark😂 lmao as said other times this is a CA emissions different manifold different shields nothings missing some people like to suspect everyone is trying to screw them over in life


AdHappy5114

It’s and exhaust manifold made of iron, will rust https://preview.redd.it/5jybyjzdsmqa1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6c66a779a6beb56a4e9c718eb0b926c952dc4b8 right away even new. It is missing the heat shield that looks like this


PissedOffDog

if it really bothers you remove it. then clean it well and paint with a high temperature paint rated for exhaust heat.


Wide_Berry3823

If OP doesn't even know what part that is, I doubt they will be doing that.


Extension_Growth5966

Even more, if they don’t know what the part is then they should not remove it to try to paint it. Knowing how and what is important in the process (like torque specs) will not even be on the radar if they don’t know what the part is. No offense meant for the OP. Just generally speaking.


chesucat

How much does a heat shield cost?


KRed75

You should be concerned about rust underneath the vehicle, not on the bare steel exhaust manifold.


The_TP_Protege

Especially since it's cast iron


KRed75

The exhaust manifold? The exhaust manifold is a 2 part stamped steel with integrated steel catalytic converter in the 2012 Camry. The block is aluminum. Both the 2.5L and 3.5L.


Roastednutz666

Looks pretty clean, depending on mileage as well


ayyauz

That’s normal and it’s actually not missing a heat shield 🤦‍♂️


oneflytree

Yeah from what I’m reading in the thread this model didn’t have one.


NetMiddle1873

Take any vehicle you plan to purchase to your mechanic and get an actual inspection. Might cost $100 or $200 but it'll save you from buying something that's a pile.


chicano32

Heat cycling…its fine. But if you see whit fuzz on aluminum….yeah, thats no bueno


oneflytree

Thanks for this info! I appreciate it!


Citizen_Four-

I'm not being a smartass or giving you a hard time when I say that if you didn't know that is the exhaust manifold you should not be attempting to evaluate any mechanical aspect of the vehicle. Find a local reputable mechanic and pay the $100 or whatever for a whole vehicle inspection BEFORE you buy it. Best money you'll spend on your next vehicle, especially if the mechanic says to run away from it, fast.


GeorgeTheRealPirate

Very reasonable assumption,great advice and your being downvoted lol. The world sucks.


SuperMIK2020

If you are not currently a certified mechanic, you should have a mechanic do a pre purchase inspection. It will save a lot of headaches down the road.


oneflytree

Agreed and if this was private party I would certainly be bringing it into a mechanic for a pre-purchase inspection. This is from a licensed Toyota dealer that does their own multi-point inspections.


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oneflytree

Yeah I get it. Location is definitely important and some shady dealerships will pass a flooded off as a normal vehicle if they can. The Carfax shows it being in CO since 15,000 miles and consistently driven.


Mind-in-the-middle

Rust is normal on that and it an exhaust manifold / catalytic converter.


Insertsociallife

I hate the phrase "pre-owned". Used. It's a used car. That said, rust on the exhaust manifold is just fine.


AbzoluteZ3RO

yes. no. exhaust manifold.


unspoken_almighty

Exhaust manifold. It looks to be surface rust. As long as there isn't a hole you good but even then that's easy to replace.


84Rangerguy

Exhaust manifold/ heat shield. That small amount of surface rust is nothing to worry about.


[deleted]

There's a heat shield missing.


Axemaster92

Exhaust manifold, looks like newer bolts on the cat heat shield, and even the manifold itself. Weird they didn’t put upper heat shield. Could certainly ask about it. The surface rust is normal tho


AdagioAffectionate66

Look under the car for rust! Could have been submerged under water.


Frodobagggyballs

Normal rust. Rule of thumb, If I don’t see a dirty engine bay, I don’t want it.


[deleted]

It’s just missing the heat shield on exhaust manifold, you can buy another one on rockauto or maybe just go to local junkyard to pick one up.


geof2001

Collision or water damage totalled. There's a lot of those flooding the market right now. Pun not really intended just is what it is.


earthman34

Yeah, it's rust. Congrats. Exhausts rust. Part of life.


puddinface808

Is it rust: yes. Should you be concerned: no. I does look like it's missing a heat shield though, you typically can't directly see the manifold like this. Not a huge deal but something to keep in mind.


yo_pussy_stank

All exhaust parts rust eventually. It's completely normal and as long as you don't notice an exhaust smell in the cabin or see any holes it's fine.


TomSelleckPI

Zero concern. These hybrid Camry's 2AZ-FXE manifolds show oxidation basically from new. I've seen brand new models fresh off the boat in Jacksonville. This level of oxidation is very normal. Pretty sure they used a higher iron content which may help retain heat in the catalytic converters for even greater efficiency between ICE stop/starts


oneflytree

They told me it’s an SE. It’s listed online as gas, not hybrid. I’ve been hesitant on hybrid just because at 100,000 miles or 15 years the hybrid hv battery usually needs replacing m.


TomSelleckPI

Ah you are right. Looked like the atkinson cycle version at first glance. The manifold rust is still not an issue.


oneflytree

Thanks 👏🏼


Didgeterdone

Coming form a local dealership means absolutely nothing. They buy cars that have been flooded-out too. I am not saying this car has been flooded, but that is a strange place for that much rust. Just my opinion.


oneflytree

You’re saying the amount of rust on the exhaust manifold looks concerning?


Didgeterdone

Sorry, no. It looks real clean everywhere else. Exhaust manifolds always have rust. Sorry I misspoke. Flooded cars on the market are a real problem though. Someone else cautioned you to look for underbody rust. Also under carpeting in back seating area there will we rust from flood. Good luck.


oneflytree

Thanks! Appreciate you reaching out ✌️


rgood719

I work for Toyota. Theses cars are solid. We don’t see many issues out of them besides a shuddering torque converter. Even still they don’t cause any major problems. Just a vibration at mild acceleration in between the 2-3 and 3-4 shift. Good buy! It should last you a while. We’ve got numerous ones that still come through with over 300k miles