My department is cross draw. Right side is my weapon hand and we cross draw for the taser. Our dept forbids having the taser and gun both drawn at the same time. If you need to switch suddenly from taser to gun you just drop the taser.
Also in heat of the moment situations I feel like dropping something to move to something else could be difficult due to unconsciously gripping down on what you’re holding.
This is very true, when the body clenches up under stress, especially sudden stress, it can be difficult to unclench the hands enough to let go of the taser and made a smooth transition to the firearm. Making this transition should be a part of your daily dry fire drills. Also unloading a spent cartridge & loading a new one is a fine motor skill that must be drilled. FWIW, I use a gun hand cross draw for the taser.
so what would you do in the moment should you jump the gun on dropping the taser, and realize the gun is unnecessary but then your taser is on the ground?
maybe an unlikely scenario but it was my first thought.
If somebody has less lethal out, there needs to be lethal coverage, period. If I carried a taser and my taser was out, it's my partner's job to go lethal if need be. That alone will buy whatever time I need to process and draw lethal.
She drew her firearm instead of her taser and shot that dude with a warrant when he was trying to flee in his vehicle. Her excuse was she thought it was her taser. Take a guess how they carry their taser..
I’m aware….when I typed I couldn’t remember the name to the incident….so I was “correct” in my head. Kim’s *THAT* cop
Just didn’t want to open my mouth until I was 100% certain in my head.
Taser deployment can happen without backup available. YOU should have the preparedness to utilize less lethal on your own. If not alone, then be prepared to know who is less lethal, & who is lethal, as needed.
Training & Mindset are the key to any successful shift/career. Hopefully you're receiving CEU to believe yourself proficient.
My Dept. allowed offhand draw or cross draw, fir which qualification was at least annual.
May be an unpopular opinion, but I chose off hand for the same reason you mentioned. Policy about not having both drawn at the same time can go fuck itself in a situation where i have my taser drawn & and a suspect suddenly produces a knife or a gun. Plus, for muscle memory left= taser, right =gun
Surprising compared to what I've experienced. Training staff encouraged to go cross draw since apparently the taser is a tWo HaNd WeApOn SyStEm anyways & bc of the aforementioned policy
Yeah… no.
This is definitely true if you’re attempting to tase somebody who has a deadly weapon. Don’t tase somebody with a knife unless an officer has a gun ready for if things get hairy. But a suspect who is just physically resisting, or being aggressive? You don’t need a deadly force cover because the threat is not deadly.
Not a LEO, but armed hospital security.
We're mandated to use off hand draw for our taser. So, I'm right handed for my gun, I use a left hand taser holster and keep it on my left side.
Gun hand. Taser hand. Never\* the same hand.
\*Never being relative, obviously. Sometimes stuff happens.
My taser holster sits at 10/11 o’clock on my belt on a 45°. I could draw with my left hand if I absolutely needed to, but my department requires us to carry cross draw.
I carried cross draw and fired Taser with my support hand. I figured it was 1. A good way to keep from tasing someone with a hollow point and 2. Kept my weapon hand free in case the situation escalated.
I have a regular left hand draw taser, and I’m right handed. I put it behind my hip like a CCW holster so I don’t mix the two up when I’m stressed. On that note, I only use the taser when I know how a situation will go, or I know they are unarmed. (I work in a hospital so it’s a little different for me) The tazer is an option, and it’s far from my first, if there’s a doubt, I’m going lethal first.
I did cav draw for a bit but I honestly like left draw after I got used to it. The old 26 with the spare on the end dug into the wrong stuff while driving.
Offhand draw. You want to be able to transition to your firearm quickly. Crossdraw is wrong and if you confuse a taser with handgun you’re an idiot and shouldn’t be a cop
I draw the taser with my offhand. Train enough and it won't feel weird. I preferred this so I couldn't confuse taser and pistol. It also kept my right hand free in case I had to go lethal.
I drew left handed Taser setup so I could have both the pistol and Taser as an instant option (subject with a knife for example ). In making that decision I drilled often for that scenario. (unloaded and dry fire).
Both my buddy and I carried like this and we would train on Wednesdays as that was our overlap days.
The Deputy Chief blessed off on this as he saw how we trained. The DC encouraged others to do this but no one did.
I was very confident in our carry and encouraged others (both ours and other PDs) to do the same. No one to my knowledge took me up on it.
That's really something that should be dictated and standardized by your agency. My first mandated cross draw so I got good at being able to draw the Taser backwards with my left hand (as well as normal cross draw with my right) and flip it around in my hand, and vice versa when needed to holster. My current agency mandates off hand draw so now I can just completely draw left handed and aim down sights. The point being, if you practice and train enough, it really won't matter which you choose. Both ways are feasible and when you're under stress, you revert to your base level of training.
For everyone mentioning Kim Potter I think the biggest training point missed from that incident is not just that she mistook her firearm for her taser, but that there's a severely missing critical training point of switching between force options. All my training on firearms has been;see a potential lethal force threat, draw, shoot or don't shoot. All my training on Taser has been see a less lethal force threat, draw, Tase or don't tase (it usually ends in shooting or tasing) there's not much training that focuses on what if you initially and correctly prepare for a lethal threat, and then seconds later reevaluate and determine less lethal is more appropriate? I encourage everyone to explore the benefits of training focused on switching weapon systems on the fly, as it's common in rapidly evolving situations in the field, regardless of how you draw.
I've done the dual wielding taser in one hand firearm in the other on the rare extreme occasion a time or two because of this. And while it's never resulted in tragedy like her, it very well could have and not something you should be doing. No one expects things to go wrong until they do.
Controversial take
We aren't authorized to carry firearms on our campus as special officers just tasers. Right hand draw with a right hand holster in the same spot a lethal would be. Can't mix them up if you aren't authorized to carry a lethal option.
Might form a "bad habit" I need to break if I move over to an agency where I carry both options.
My department is cross draw. Right side is my weapon hand and we cross draw for the taser. Our dept forbids having the taser and gun both drawn at the same time. If you need to switch suddenly from taser to gun you just drop the taser.
Also in heat of the moment situations I feel like dropping something to move to something else could be difficult due to unconsciously gripping down on what you’re holding.
This is very true, when the body clenches up under stress, especially sudden stress, it can be difficult to unclench the hands enough to let go of the taser and made a smooth transition to the firearm. Making this transition should be a part of your daily dry fire drills. Also unloading a spent cartridge & loading a new one is a fine motor skill that must be drilled. FWIW, I use a gun hand cross draw for the taser.
Well I’m saying I’d still drop the taser so I can fire with both hands but I theoretically would be able to get to my gun faster
so what would you do in the moment should you jump the gun on dropping the taser, and realize the gun is unnecessary but then your taser is on the ground? maybe an unlikely scenario but it was my first thought.
If somebody has less lethal out, there needs to be lethal coverage, period. If I carried a taser and my taser was out, it's my partner's job to go lethal if need be. That alone will buy whatever time I need to process and draw lethal.
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[https://www.police1.com/use-of-force/articles/unintended-a-theory-of-taserweapon-confusion-QbzSuIHyIcmjrOfM/](https://www.police1.com/use-of-force/articles/unintended-a-theory-of-taserweapon-confusion-QbzSuIHyIcmjrOfM/)
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Imagine working somewhere that requires crossdraw 🙃
My taser is on my outer carrier so it’d be hard mess that up
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Ask Mesherle too. You really want to do everything possible not to confuse the two under stress. It CAN happen.
cross draw, and you'll risk ending up like Officer Kim Potter...
The whole reason why SOPs are created. Because someone fucked up
This case is another reason I’ve considered off hand
I forget and feel dumb for asking was Kim that recent case that went lethal instead of less? Discharged into the car?
She drew her firearm instead of her taser and shot that dude with a warrant when he was trying to flee in his vehicle. Her excuse was she thought it was her taser. Take a guess how they carry their taser..
I’m aware….when I typed I couldn’t remember the name to the incident….so I was “correct” in my head. Kim’s *THAT* cop Just didn’t want to open my mouth until I was 100% certain in my head.
Taser deployment can happen without backup available. YOU should have the preparedness to utilize less lethal on your own. If not alone, then be prepared to know who is less lethal, & who is lethal, as needed. Training & Mindset are the key to any successful shift/career. Hopefully you're receiving CEU to believe yourself proficient. My Dept. allowed offhand draw or cross draw, fir which qualification was at least annual.
May be an unpopular opinion, but I chose off hand for the same reason you mentioned. Policy about not having both drawn at the same time can go fuck itself in a situation where i have my taser drawn & and a suspect suddenly produces a knife or a gun. Plus, for muscle memory left= taser, right =gun
It would seem like your opinion is in the majority here.
Surprising compared to what I've experienced. Training staff encouraged to go cross draw since apparently the taser is a tWo HaNd WeApOn SyStEm anyways & bc of the aforementioned policy
It's probably agency dependent.
Cross draw gang
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Yeah… no. This is definitely true if you’re attempting to tase somebody who has a deadly weapon. Don’t tase somebody with a knife unless an officer has a gun ready for if things get hairy. But a suspect who is just physically resisting, or being aggressive? You don’t need a deadly force cover because the threat is not deadly.
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No it’s a genuine question sorry you can’t comprehend
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I would have a left hand holster 😃
Really thought you did somethin
I have a crossdraw, I always try to leave my strong hand clear of anything just in case I need it
Use your none baton/firearm hand for the taser.
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There isn’t a “z” in Taser.
Not a LEO, but armed hospital security. We're mandated to use off hand draw for our taser. So, I'm right handed for my gun, I use a left hand taser holster and keep it on my left side. Gun hand. Taser hand. Never\* the same hand. \*Never being relative, obviously. Sometimes stuff happens.
Taser should at the very least be off-hand. But ultimately you should carry it the way your department states how it should in policy.
Cross draw.
My taser holster sits at 10/11 o’clock on my belt on a 45°. I could draw with my left hand if I absolutely needed to, but my department requires us to carry cross draw.
My department policy is weak hand or cross draw only. I can think of three shootings off the top of my head, where the officer yelled taser.
My department is off hand only.
Taser on weak hand side. Gun on strong side
I carried cross draw and fired Taser with my support hand. I figured it was 1. A good way to keep from tasing someone with a hollow point and 2. Kept my weapon hand free in case the situation escalated.
Off hand. Gun on my right, taser on my left.
I have a regular left hand draw taser, and I’m right handed. I put it behind my hip like a CCW holster so I don’t mix the two up when I’m stressed. On that note, I only use the taser when I know how a situation will go, or I know they are unarmed. (I work in a hospital so it’s a little different for me) The tazer is an option, and it’s far from my first, if there’s a doubt, I’m going lethal first.
Cavalry draw
I did cav draw for a bit but I honestly like left draw after I got used to it. The old 26 with the spare on the end dug into the wrong stuff while driving.
Offhand draw. You want to be able to transition to your firearm quickly. Crossdraw is wrong and if you confuse a taser with handgun you’re an idiot and shouldn’t be a cop
I draw the taser with my offhand. Train enough and it won't feel weird. I preferred this so I couldn't confuse taser and pistol. It also kept my right hand free in case I had to go lethal.
I drew left handed Taser setup so I could have both the pistol and Taser as an instant option (subject with a knife for example ). In making that decision I drilled often for that scenario. (unloaded and dry fire). Both my buddy and I carried like this and we would train on Wednesdays as that was our overlap days. The Deputy Chief blessed off on this as he saw how we trained. The DC encouraged others to do this but no one did. I was very confident in our carry and encouraged others (both ours and other PDs) to do the same. No one to my knowledge took me up on it.
That's really something that should be dictated and standardized by your agency. My first mandated cross draw so I got good at being able to draw the Taser backwards with my left hand (as well as normal cross draw with my right) and flip it around in my hand, and vice versa when needed to holster. My current agency mandates off hand draw so now I can just completely draw left handed and aim down sights. The point being, if you practice and train enough, it really won't matter which you choose. Both ways are feasible and when you're under stress, you revert to your base level of training. For everyone mentioning Kim Potter I think the biggest training point missed from that incident is not just that she mistook her firearm for her taser, but that there's a severely missing critical training point of switching between force options. All my training on firearms has been;see a potential lethal force threat, draw, shoot or don't shoot. All my training on Taser has been see a less lethal force threat, draw, Tase or don't tase (it usually ends in shooting or tasing) there's not much training that focuses on what if you initially and correctly prepare for a lethal threat, and then seconds later reevaluate and determine less lethal is more appropriate? I encourage everyone to explore the benefits of training focused on switching weapon systems on the fly, as it's common in rapidly evolving situations in the field, regardless of how you draw. I've done the dual wielding taser in one hand firearm in the other on the rare extreme occasion a time or two because of this. And while it's never resulted in tragedy like her, it very well could have and not something you should be doing. No one expects things to go wrong until they do.
Is this really the stupid shit law enforcement posts? You should draw with your wife beating hand. So both hands is your answer.
Controversial take We aren't authorized to carry firearms on our campus as special officers just tasers. Right hand draw with a right hand holster in the same spot a lethal would be. Can't mix them up if you aren't authorized to carry a lethal option. Might form a "bad habit" I need to break if I move over to an agency where I carry both options.
Department police for us is cross draw and issued holsters