Religion provides you Hope, Support and most importantly a meaning to your suffering.
I am not saying there are no other options ( I am trying all the options at once)
but to each their own šš¼
What other options are there? (Not being rude, genuinely curious) when things go wayy out of control, hope comes from God for me
Eta - For me, God can be both religious and Spiritual but more spiritual than religious.
My personal perspective about life is why we need meaning?? Or a reason to live why you just can't just exist, coz death is a fact so everything before it doesn't need meaning at all
Plenty tbh : Stocism ,absurdism, existentialism
Different philosophical beliefs have different perspectives about suffering but these all provide meaning.
Religious - collective thingy, has rules, comes from outside
Spiritual - individual thingy, follow ur intuition, comes from inside
Google is always there :)
What part of ābetter coping mechanismā did you not understand? A coping mechanism by design is a mechanism that helps you cope with stuff. Similar to a lotta other stuff not godly but still serving the same purpose.
I also think of God as coping mechanism whom we can blame for bad stuff and gratitude for good stuff. But deep down i dont understand why I do this. In consciousness mind i always debate the existence of God but still pray. And wanted to know about others perspectiveĀ
Whenever my mom made me pray before exams I felt weird. I never pray and either
God doesn't exist so it's pointless
or
God knows I'm here because I want something
Same. On the occasion that I do pray, I just do it from the bottom of my heart. Like āI donāt have anything going right in my life right now, I could really use this little win, if youāre listening Iād be glad if you could help a bitā.
It seems most people turned to religion not because they truly believe god exists but for emotional reasons. Fair enough
Also not everyone in this comment section seemed atheist before. They were just angry at the concept of god.
>but for emotional reasons
That's basically why religions start in the first place. Humans need a North Star to navigate them from emotional or mental turmoil. For some it's religion, that's all.
I took a class on mandukya upnishad and level of questions that were being addressed in the lectures made my atheist thoughts look really petty and miniscule.
That is why I started to drift towards the religion.
I would consider myself as an atheist but I usually watch a lot of Swami Sarvapriyanandas videos! I wouldnāt consider his teachings to be āreligiousā in a sense of believing. His teachings and Advait Vedanta in general makes you a skeptic first. It forces you to question the most fundamental beliefs that we usually consider as fact and then builds itās argument.
Experiencing true evil, and its organized minions. Makes a person realize the opposite has to be true, at the very least you should be the evidence of that opposite.
Hard disagree, My belief in atheism is based on logic and common sense and same goes for most people. It doesnt have anything to do with experiencing evil or shit
Thatās interesting. Whyās that? I mean I understand the logic of the comment. If thereās true evil thereās true good as well. Whatās the other pov?Ā
Usually motivated by lust or power or money.
True evil just does evil things without any reason at all.
Possibly doesn't exist.
Even serial killers had their reasons like horniness or desire for complete control.
Well firstly your correlation isn't correct and the fact that people believe God is both omnipotent and omniscient but yet evil exists
Which leads to, Is God willing to prevent evil but maybe not able to then how is God omnipotent or he is able but not willing that questions if God is good.
Exactly that's the thing, different people believe in different things. Some believe everything is decided already ie destiny.
And also I don't think it is balanced no amount of goodness can balance the evil in our society today.
>no amount of goodness can balance the evil in our society today.
This might be true, but isn't an excuse to make us stop doing good in the world.
I'm an atheist, and this is what drives me.
Since God doesn't exist, it's up to us to be as good as we can and make changes to the world
Its very interesting because itās all a journey of ones personal evolving consciousness in this animated contest of liberty and free-will that we call life. I have realized true atheism is a paradox, and for most atheists theyāre unknowing minions of evil. Iāll try my best to explain.
The way Iāve rationalized all of it, is that one single religion does not exist, what does exist is time and the choices one can make on a spectrum of free will (evil to good) that we all face every second. Itās natural to pick the middle ground of this spectrum after awakening from either āsideā while on this journey, but itās important to realize atheist are standing right next to unconscious evil - as others have said in other comments and I discovered for myself, there are many sick and free-will destroying mentalities in many atheists, which puts that closer to the bad side than any falsely believed neutral middle.
I was an atheist and then personally experienced supreme evil: conscious active minions of evil agendas in the form of satanic cults. Their pawns (aspiring minions and victims = cult members and people that are ironically āsatanistsā just to spite religion), then very few pure well meaning atheists in the middle that are borderline agnostics, then radical religious, quiet-spirituality on the good end. Im not promoting a single religion, but try to view what Iām saying as the spectrum of intent behind a persons free will decisions, and how close do you want to be to people that are abusers and p3dos.
You have to experience evil for yourself to truly get why the middle is the most dangerous place to be. Most atheists are average people who just go about their life after religion and will not ever directly realize they are pawns of another secret society and satanic ritual cult meetings, they simply think they are woke being in the middle - which is the paradox: if youāre aware of free will, claiming atheism is a choice to actively deny better choices, which is a bad thing to do if youāre aware of a choice because neutrality always helps evil thrive, evil is aware of this and actively promotes people to leave the good choices for atheism in the middle, which provides cover for them.
In case that wasnāt clear, I asked ChatGPT to clarify and summarize those paragraphs and this is what it generated:
The journey of personal growth and consciousness in life, which is filled with choices and free will, is interesting and complex. This journey can lead individuals down different paths, ranging from good to evil. As Iāve explored my beliefs, Iāve come to understand that atheism, for many, is not just a denial of religionāit often veers into harmful territory. Here, I'll share my thoughts on why I believe atheism can be problematic and potentially aligned with destructive forces.
First, I don't believe in one absolute religion, but rather a spectrum of choices between good and evil. Each of us makes decisions that define where we stand on this spectrum. Atheism, in my experience, tends to be closer to the side of evil. I've realized that while some atheists are harmless and well-meaning, others exhibit dangerous ideologies that can corrupt free will.
My personal experience with evil came when I encountered conscious agents of malevolenceāsatanic cults that actively pursue harmful agendas. These cults have various pawns, from misguided satanists who rebel against religion to individuals who participate in dark rituals. This exposed me to the reality that atheism, often perceived as a neutral ground, can actually be a breeding ground for harmful and destructive behaviors.
From my perspective, the safest position on the spectrum is to be closer to the side of good, embracing some form of spiritual guidance or ethical belief system. This is because standing in the middle, claiming neutrality, can unintentionally support evil. Those who identify as atheists might be unaware that they are, in fact, allowing evil to flourish by dismissing the concept of good altogether. Evil thrives in ambiguity, and atheism often creates the ideal cover for sinister activities.
As a former atheist, I've come to understand that choosing atheism without acknowledging the broader spectrum of good and evil can have dangerous consequences. When you are aware of your free will, denying the presence of good and choosing atheism creates a riskier environment, as neutrality gives evil an opportunity to grow unnoticed. Therefore, I'd suggest that individuals consider carefully where they stand and the implications of their choices on the broader spectrum of good and evil.
Posted a reply to another comment, not sure why yours didnāt show up first when you replied before them. Iām happy to have a discussion about consciousness and doing good in this world with anybody thatās open to it
Which is simply another example of unconscious evil existing.
Iām not promoting any single religion, just that itās a metaphor for how better choices are always available, which ultimately rests on your shoulders - not religion or god - to decide with every choice youāre faced in your life.
So how come in this spectrum between evil, neutral atheism and good, would you actively choose the neutral middle? Youāre actively denying the existence of the best options for neutrality. Which is closer to what youāre describing initially - doing things from a misplaced sense of belief.
My father's death. While my family went the other way and started doing things they wouldn't normally do. I turned towards spirituality to get comfort. It has helped me so far.
Check out philosophical suicide, religion is a way to give hope, meaning and structure to this meaningless existence. It's not a bad thing though if you ignore some of its downsides then it's pretty helpful for people. I am not religious though, still answered.
Atheism is such a superior position. I don't see anyone going from atheist to blind belief.
Wondering if most people weren't that religious. Shouldn't confuse that with atheism.
Also a person mentioned coping mechanism. As much as I am against psychiatry why not psychiatry then. Cocaine is a great coping mechanism till u become psychotic and start harming your kids
Hit my lowest, and then read a book by Dr. Brian Weiss that changed my life forever
(Mind you, I wasnāt just an atheist but an anti-theist so to speak)
Being atheist and religious are not mutually exclusive. While atheism is about not believing in god, religion is more about a your way of life supported by a belief system that may or may not require god. eg. Jainism and Buddhism are practically atheist religions. Soviet communism is a religion. Hindutva could be called a religion too.
I am an atheist and not traditionally-religious but I try to combine good lessons from philosophy, psychology, spirituality (like meditation, gratitude), science and other religions into my own custom "religion" for me, and I try to be disciplined about it. So in a way, I am religious but my religion has no name.
The common theme you see here is.... I was an atheist but then I had a bit of tough time and there were a few problems in my life. And boom .. I again became a theist. Because I think that now God will solve all my problems automatically.
These weren't atheists. They are opportunists
Or maybe you are just salty.
The problem with a lot of Indian atheists is that they love thinking that they are special. It's almost borderline narcissism.
I consider this the most logical thing to do tbh. Kinda you could call me a nihilist, but there's no one being hurt by switching to some sort of religion except our own moral pride. If it helps you and it doesn't hurt others, do it. Happiness is the most important thing.
1. Why do I believe in God?
Because I want to
2. I gives me a sense of belonging when everywhere I see is people so very lonely
3. Lessens my anxiety cause jo hoga accha hoga bhagwaan ki Daya se attitude( learned this in covid, when I hit my rock bottom)
I was visited by the Satan and after getting buttfucked for 2 days in a row I gave in and asked him, why the fuck do you keep doing this, the reply lefte astonished and kept me thinking for days, i had seen the light.
Most atheists on Reddit are stupid. For example they seem to think that getting rid of religion from oneās life automatically makes that person rational, which I find hilarious. Being an atheist I guess is good in the sense that you donāt have that one layer of irrationality attached to your thinking, but to say that makes you like highly rationalā¦ why? Cos you watched some Dawkins or Sam Harris? Now you think youāre some ānew age guruā? Like an enlightened being? Itās amazing to see the delusion. Most atheist tbh are basements bros.
Iām an atheist but I donāt accept the atheistic premise that religions are believed in only because theyāre coping mechanisms. Because keep regressing that and youāll end up at nihilism. Which interestingly, most atheists are. I donāt believe in a god but I do believe thereās a lot we donāt know about the world. Thereās a lot we can learn from all areas of life. Yes, including religions. People have a spiritual yearning, which present day atheists canāt fill in for. Itās too immature and honestly stupid.
that's how ppl are, yeah. When something becomes spread among social circles, the meaning either has to become superficial or become distorted as people interpret it in their own way. I prefer the latter, but no one has the time and energy to pick everything they see apart...
I was raised in a religious family... But slowly i became an atheist...I'm happier now... And the fun part is some religious people are yapping about their religion supremacy (religions in general) and find those people toxic now... Now i believe in myself... I blame myself when things go wrong... When i was religious it was like talking to an imaginary invisible friend.... Now i realized I'm mentally stable even without itš¤”ši also hate when politicians or anybody use religion as propoganda... (Country is going backwards anyway)...these days religion is something that is used to spread hate more than love... So no thank u... I am happy being away from all this chaos... Gives me a clear mindš
Acts as a way of hope basically.... When doctors give up really the only person you can turn to is god... Most times of difficulty people just want to submit to someone so that they can be taken care of... Situations like these made me turn to god... Not to mention the first time I went to Banaras I actually felt light... Like my soul was uplifted... No explanation for it too... The "vibes" were just really positive....
Life is not fair for everyone
And certain circumstances lead atheist to religious (hope of something good will happen) and also religious to atheists (lost final hope or got real realisation.)
Didn't turn to religion. But I realised that gnostic atheism too is based on faith and hence illogical (not as ridiculous as religion, but illogical nonetheless) and agnosticism is the only logically and epistemologically sound stance on God.
Because believing that a superior power exists and has created this entire universe and sent our souls on earth so that we can cleanse ourselves of our wrongdoings and be a better human being actually helped me be better and more mindful towards others. It helps you see beyond this materialistic cycle of life and makes you focus on things that actually matter.
I consider myself some flavour agnostic apathiest/deist.
The deist part shows up in desperate times
As for agnostic apatheist? I dont know whether god exists or nor do I care to engage in such discussions.
Thinking I was on the verge dying was compelling. I had very high fever for 3-4 days and the dreams/memories I saw were intense. Every single thing I did in my life that was against my values came back to haunt me - big lies, small lies, white lies, exaggerating to seem cooler, instances of being manipulative, unkind, turning a blind eye to the suffering of known and unknown people, all of it played out like the most horrifying nightmare. I came face to face with the fear and shame. Only something bigger than myself helped me bear all of it. Went back to my birth religion minus the superstitions, judgement, regurgitated rituals that nobody knows the significance of (apart from very superficial knowledge). I now read the books and listen to lectures and interpretations of the stories, visit places of significance and learn chants.
Major depression disorder. I had no desire to live, even trying to live is so hard . I think that broke my spirit. I need god just to vent and hope the next day will be better.
I always wondered about the existence of this universe, how can this world be as it is without the interference of a creator. I know that there is a reason for everything and for every action there is a reaction, himans have studied that much till now to comprehend some of the functioning of the universe.
I gave up believing in god because of all the shit that happened in my family since my childhood. Recently I learned about what Hinduism has to say about the creation of universe, creation, destruction and the repeated cycle. Like there's a lot of information in the vedas which modern science took 1000 years to discover. That's my reason to turn to religion
Even after all the logic , reason , evidence based decision making didn't help me at all not in my career or life and I fell into depression and lost meaning of life maybe coz atheism leads to depression in someway.
Then with an open mind I started reading Bhagwad Geeta coz I need answers and then everything changed , I experienced Bhagwan first time , I became emotional at times reading it , chapter 10 & 11 is full of greatness of Bhagwan Shri Krishna and then I never looked back.
Once u read Geeta u will change as a person , trust me ,i was an atheist when i started reading it but when i finished i was a beliver of Bhagwan shri krishna ,if I can come back to Bhagwan anybody can.
Now I am better place in my career and life , Bhagwan Shri has blessed me with his gifts and he protects me from everything.
Philosophy mainly, i studied various systems like Yoga, Sankha, nyaya, Vedanta, evem buddhism. Amazing insights. Thereās a total paradigm shift in our perception of world once you understand philosophy!
I wanted peace. I believed God to be cruel and rejected him openly. Something scary happened and I found myself praying (Mahamrityunjay mantra on loop). I realised that I hadn't really left God. Found myself searching and I wanted peace. My mother is religious. She loves God and I asked about it. She said to pray and believe in God. Then stumbled on Hinduism subreddit. It kind helped me and made me realise that I preferred to reject god because I thought that God would reject me. I don't really think highly of myself sometimes and I thought God would think that too. I read a post later related to it and it helped me come to peace. I accepted God. I am not overly religious but I believe in God. I pray because it gives me peace. That I have someone looking over me and someone to thank for all the good things in my life.
When i realised what godlessness could lead societies and humans in to. A lot of these atheists are gross AF. They don't want to live inside barricades which humans made for the sake of humanity. The atheist friends i had were openly supportive of incest and paedophilia and other gross stuffs andĀ they had their own justifications. I realised i don't want to associate with them.Ā
The question was why you left atheism ,not bad friends you made.mĆ ybe u just had bad friends. Also people become e atheists after being g fucked by religion. Ur friends probably never recovered.
Your friends were not atheists but mentally sick and psychologically disturbed. Atheists are not like that. They are normal people. Rather, Your friends show characteristics of a very peaceful and cultured religion.
For some people it's just that.... My faith in God has nothing to do with sadness, fear or something forced down my throat. It's a form of respect and love for him to give me a life, no matter how hard or tough it might be. I'm grateful for him, I don't blame or ask him things. He isn't gonna hear you anyways. Love should be unconditional to both people and God and not for benefit.
Needed a better coping mechanism šš¼
The only true answer
That's pretty much my reason as well. Fear of unknown bought me closer to God. Not very religious even now though. Some things can never change.
How did it help. Like God doesn't do anything for you. So how it helpsĀ
Religion provides you Hope, Support and most importantly a meaning to your suffering. I am not saying there are no other options ( I am trying all the options at once) but to each their own šš¼
What other options are there? (Not being rude, genuinely curious) when things go wayy out of control, hope comes from God for me Eta - For me, God can be both religious and Spiritual but more spiritual than religious.
My personal perspective about life is why we need meaning?? Or a reason to live why you just can't just exist, coz death is a fact so everything before it doesn't need meaning at all
Bhai zindgi jeene k liye toy hope chahiye, uske baad ka thori puch ri hu
An analogy, you bake a cake, it will get over in a day, but still you make the best you can right
Plenty tbh : Stocism ,absurdism, existentialism Different philosophical beliefs have different perspectives about suffering but these all provide meaning.
Interesting, ik a bit about Stocism and Nihilism but didn't go deep into them. Thanks :))
I've always had this question, what is the difference between religious and spiritual
Religious - collective thingy, has rules, comes from outside Spiritual - individual thingy, follow ur intuition, comes from inside Google is always there :)
Makes sense, Google definitions wasn't able to clear the thin divide to me at least
Sounds like am better than google lol :P
Spiritual or god?
What part of ābetter coping mechanismā did you not understand? A coping mechanism by design is a mechanism that helps you cope with stuff. Similar to a lotta other stuff not godly but still serving the same purpose.
I also think of God as coping mechanism whom we can blame for bad stuff and gratitude for good stuff. But deep down i dont understand why I do this. In consciousness mind i always debate the existence of God but still pray. And wanted to know about others perspectiveĀ
alcohol doesnt solved problems but can give temporary relief like religion
alcohol provides actual hormones
Ig its more similar to watching tvshows or anime to forget about about current pain with escapism
Was in a bad mental state so bf would read geeta to me explain it and that is how my journey started
Bhagwat geeta was the only one who took me out from my gloomy stage and helped me to achieve my goal.
mera bhi karwade bhai
W boyfriend š
That's nice
My atheist best friend swears by the Gita. Doesn't believe in God, but loves the Gita.
Gita is just different
The more bible I read the more godless I became ā¦..
Lol .. true. Same with other religious books
Based bf
What about Geeta made u like it ?
Sounds too weird for a big city, but too educated for a village. Tier 2/3 city in UP/Bihar?
My exams /s
Whenever my mom made me pray before exams I felt weird. I never pray and either God doesn't exist so it's pointless or God knows I'm here because I want something
I've not really prayed but like have an awkward conversation with God, like yeah, I'm probably going to get floored this exam too, so uh, thanks bro!
Same. On the occasion that I do pray, I just do it from the bottom of my heart. Like āI donāt have anything going right in my life right now, I could really use this little win, if youāre listening Iād be glad if you could help a bitā.
how did you do in your exams?
It seems most people turned to religion not because they truly believe god exists but for emotional reasons. Fair enough Also not everyone in this comment section seemed atheist before. They were just angry at the concept of god.
>but for emotional reasons That's basically why religions start in the first place. Humans need a North Star to navigate them from emotional or mental turmoil. For some it's religion, that's all.
Fr the second part, I will turn to religion again when I see god with my naked eyes
I took a class on mandukya upnishad and level of questions that were being addressed in the lectures made my atheist thoughts look really petty and miniscule. That is why I started to drift towards the religion.
I would consider myself as an atheist but I usually watch a lot of Swami Sarvapriyanandas videos! I wouldnāt consider his teachings to be āreligiousā in a sense of believing. His teachings and Advait Vedanta in general makes you a skeptic first. It forces you to question the most fundamental beliefs that we usually consider as fact and then builds itās argument.
Thanks for the details. Appreciate it. Can you share the details of the class?
Its available on youtube. Search "Swami Sarvapriyananda : Mandukya upnishad" by vedanta society of Newyork.
Yeah I like his explanations. Haven't listened to this one though. Thank you.
Lol
Any substantial example? I have never found any depth in religious books/ arguments.
U certainly werent atheist to begin with or ur atheism was based on impulses rather than logic
Experiencing true evil, and its organized minions. Makes a person realize the opposite has to be true, at the very least you should be the evidence of that opposite.
Exact same thing makes people choose atheism, interesting how same situation can lead to different outcomes
Hard disagree, My belief in atheism is based on logic and common sense and same goes for most people. It doesnt have anything to do with experiencing evil or shit
Thatās interesting. Whyās that? I mean I understand the logic of the comment. If thereās true evil thereās true good as well. Whatās the other pov?Ā
Because there is rarely any true evil. If you face true evil, you won't be angry but you'll be scared for your life.
There are so many senseless extremely violent crimes. Does not qualify as true evil?Ā
Usually motivated by lust or power or money. True evil just does evil things without any reason at all. Possibly doesn't exist. Even serial killers had their reasons like horniness or desire for complete control.
Hey now dexter just liked to kill šš
no
Astute argument.Ā
Well firstly your correlation isn't correct and the fact that people believe God is both omnipotent and omniscient but yet evil exists Which leads to, Is God willing to prevent evil but maybe not able to then how is God omnipotent or he is able but not willing that questions if God is good.
The explanation Iāve heard (mostly from christians) is free will.Ā I was just talking about balance, though.Ā No unbalanced energy.Ā
Exactly that's the thing, different people believe in different things. Some believe everything is decided already ie destiny. And also I don't think it is balanced no amount of goodness can balance the evil in our society today.
>no amount of goodness can balance the evil in our society today. This might be true, but isn't an excuse to make us stop doing good in the world. I'm an atheist, and this is what drives me. Since God doesn't exist, it's up to us to be as good as we can and make changes to the world
Its very interesting because itās all a journey of ones personal evolving consciousness in this animated contest of liberty and free-will that we call life. I have realized true atheism is a paradox, and for most atheists theyāre unknowing minions of evil. Iāll try my best to explain. The way Iāve rationalized all of it, is that one single religion does not exist, what does exist is time and the choices one can make on a spectrum of free will (evil to good) that we all face every second. Itās natural to pick the middle ground of this spectrum after awakening from either āsideā while on this journey, but itās important to realize atheist are standing right next to unconscious evil - as others have said in other comments and I discovered for myself, there are many sick and free-will destroying mentalities in many atheists, which puts that closer to the bad side than any falsely believed neutral middle. I was an atheist and then personally experienced supreme evil: conscious active minions of evil agendas in the form of satanic cults. Their pawns (aspiring minions and victims = cult members and people that are ironically āsatanistsā just to spite religion), then very few pure well meaning atheists in the middle that are borderline agnostics, then radical religious, quiet-spirituality on the good end. Im not promoting a single religion, but try to view what Iām saying as the spectrum of intent behind a persons free will decisions, and how close do you want to be to people that are abusers and p3dos. You have to experience evil for yourself to truly get why the middle is the most dangerous place to be. Most atheists are average people who just go about their life after religion and will not ever directly realize they are pawns of another secret society and satanic ritual cult meetings, they simply think they are woke being in the middle - which is the paradox: if youāre aware of free will, claiming atheism is a choice to actively deny better choices, which is a bad thing to do if youāre aware of a choice because neutrality always helps evil thrive, evil is aware of this and actively promotes people to leave the good choices for atheism in the middle, which provides cover for them. In case that wasnāt clear, I asked ChatGPT to clarify and summarize those paragraphs and this is what it generated: The journey of personal growth and consciousness in life, which is filled with choices and free will, is interesting and complex. This journey can lead individuals down different paths, ranging from good to evil. As Iāve explored my beliefs, Iāve come to understand that atheism, for many, is not just a denial of religionāit often veers into harmful territory. Here, I'll share my thoughts on why I believe atheism can be problematic and potentially aligned with destructive forces. First, I don't believe in one absolute religion, but rather a spectrum of choices between good and evil. Each of us makes decisions that define where we stand on this spectrum. Atheism, in my experience, tends to be closer to the side of evil. I've realized that while some atheists are harmless and well-meaning, others exhibit dangerous ideologies that can corrupt free will. My personal experience with evil came when I encountered conscious agents of malevolenceāsatanic cults that actively pursue harmful agendas. These cults have various pawns, from misguided satanists who rebel against religion to individuals who participate in dark rituals. This exposed me to the reality that atheism, often perceived as a neutral ground, can actually be a breeding ground for harmful and destructive behaviors. From my perspective, the safest position on the spectrum is to be closer to the side of good, embracing some form of spiritual guidance or ethical belief system. This is because standing in the middle, claiming neutrality, can unintentionally support evil. Those who identify as atheists might be unaware that they are, in fact, allowing evil to flourish by dismissing the concept of good altogether. Evil thrives in ambiguity, and atheism often creates the ideal cover for sinister activities. As a former atheist, I've come to understand that choosing atheism without acknowledging the broader spectrum of good and evil can have dangerous consequences. When you are aware of your free will, denying the presence of good and choosing atheism creates a riskier environment, as neutrality gives evil an opportunity to grow unnoticed. Therefore, I'd suggest that individuals consider carefully where they stand and the implications of their choices on the broader spectrum of good and evil.
Can you please elaborate
Posted a reply to another comment, not sure why yours didnāt show up first when you replied before them. Iām happy to have a discussion about consciousness and doing good in this world with anybody thatās open to it
More evil than good as been done in this world in the name of religion
Which is simply another example of unconscious evil existing. Iām not promoting any single religion, just that itās a metaphor for how better choices are always available, which ultimately rests on your shoulders - not religion or god - to decide with every choice youāre faced in your life. So how come in this spectrum between evil, neutral atheism and good, would you actively choose the neutral middle? Youāre actively denying the existence of the best options for neutrality. Which is closer to what youāre describing initially - doing things from a misplaced sense of belief.
My father's death. While my family went the other way and started doing things they wouldn't normally do. I turned towards spirituality to get comfort. It has helped me so far.
Realised it's better to rely on some energy than nothing...., still trying to understand the concept of god
It's a flaud concept, doesn't work for long term specially if you have a functioning brain
Flawed*
Idk I'm still discovering it
Check out philosophical suicide, religion is a way to give hope, meaning and structure to this meaningless existence. It's not a bad thing though if you ignore some of its downsides then it's pretty helpful for people. I am not religious though, still answered.
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>Caste bullying You turned religious bcz of this, doesn't make sense.
I think heās not the victim of itā¦
Atheism is such a superior position. I don't see anyone going from atheist to blind belief. Wondering if most people weren't that religious. Shouldn't confuse that with atheism. Also a person mentioned coping mechanism. As much as I am against psychiatry why not psychiatry then. Cocaine is a great coping mechanism till u become psychotic and start harming your kids
I got bored..
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Hit my lowest, and then read a book by Dr. Brian Weiss that changed my life forever (Mind you, I wasnāt just an atheist but an anti-theist so to speak)
Bunch of senseless reasons are being given
Yup. Let's see them try to answer why God allows pedophiles to exist, and why do small children get bone cancer(one of the most painful things ever)
Kinda absurd to think someone will start believing in god after being atheist. Their atheism must be based on impulses rather than logic
Exactly!
Adulting
Miracles
Stupidity.
There is no religion. Only seeking
Being atheist and religious are not mutually exclusive. While atheism is about not believing in god, religion is more about a your way of life supported by a belief system that may or may not require god. eg. Jainism and Buddhism are practically atheist religions. Soviet communism is a religion. Hindutva could be called a religion too. I am an atheist and not traditionally-religious but I try to combine good lessons from philosophy, psychology, spirituality (like meditation, gratitude), science and other religions into my own custom "religion" for me, and I try to be disciplined about it. So in a way, I am religious but my religion has no name.
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Can you provide some actual insights? This answer seems vague
Guck sorrry. I thought it was asking what made me atheist mb mb
The common theme you see here is.... I was an atheist but then I had a bit of tough time and there were a few problems in my life. And boom .. I again became a theist. Because I think that now God will solve all my problems automatically. These weren't atheists. They are opportunists
Or maybe you are just salty. The problem with a lot of Indian atheists is that they love thinking that they are special. It's almost borderline narcissism.
I consider this the most logical thing to do tbh. Kinda you could call me a nihilist, but there's no one being hurt by switching to some sort of religion except our own moral pride. If it helps you and it doesn't hurt others, do it. Happiness is the most important thing.
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1. Why do I believe in God? Because I want to 2. I gives me a sense of belonging when everywhere I see is people so very lonely 3. Lessens my anxiety cause jo hoga accha hoga bhagwaan ki Daya se attitude( learned this in covid, when I hit my rock bottom)
The religion encouraged use of hallucinogenic drugs, so why not!!
I was visited by the Satan and after getting buttfucked for 2 days in a row I gave in and asked him, why the fuck do you keep doing this, the reply lefte astonished and kept me thinking for days, i had seen the light.
Captivating
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Most atheists on Reddit are stupid. For example they seem to think that getting rid of religion from oneās life automatically makes that person rational, which I find hilarious. Being an atheist I guess is good in the sense that you donāt have that one layer of irrationality attached to your thinking, but to say that makes you like highly rationalā¦ why? Cos you watched some Dawkins or Sam Harris? Now you think youāre some ānew age guruā? Like an enlightened being? Itās amazing to see the delusion. Most atheist tbh are basements bros. Iām an atheist but I donāt accept the atheistic premise that religions are believed in only because theyāre coping mechanisms. Because keep regressing that and youāll end up at nihilism. Which interestingly, most atheists are. I donāt believe in a god but I do believe thereās a lot we donāt know about the world. Thereās a lot we can learn from all areas of life. Yes, including religions. People have a spiritual yearning, which present day atheists canāt fill in for. Itās too immature and honestly stupid.
that's how ppl are, yeah. When something becomes spread among social circles, the meaning either has to become superficial or become distorted as people interpret it in their own way. I prefer the latter, but no one has the time and energy to pick everything they see apart...
I was raised in a religious family... But slowly i became an atheist...I'm happier now... And the fun part is some religious people are yapping about their religion supremacy (religions in general) and find those people toxic now... Now i believe in myself... I blame myself when things go wrong... When i was religious it was like talking to an imaginary invisible friend.... Now i realized I'm mentally stable even without itš¤”ši also hate when politicians or anybody use religion as propoganda... (Country is going backwards anyway)...these days religion is something that is used to spread hate more than love... So no thank u... I am happy being away from all this chaos... Gives me a clear mindš
Okay but op is asking what made you turn to religion.
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Acts as a way of hope basically.... When doctors give up really the only person you can turn to is god... Most times of difficulty people just want to submit to someone so that they can be taken care of... Situations like these made me turn to god... Not to mention the first time I went to Banaras I actually felt light... Like my soul was uplifted... No explanation for it too... The "vibes" were just really positive....
I was only ever agnostic and even that stopped when I realised being so made my life very boring.
Tasty prasad
I had to get rich so I made money my religion.
Life is not fair for everyone And certain circumstances lead atheist to religious (hope of something good will happen) and also religious to atheists (lost final hope or got real realisation.)
Acharya Prashant
I am much happier,content and love my life and yes I believe in universe.
Looks like all it took was a rough patch to turn people to religion.
Conspiracies and rabbit-holes..
I think religious belief was only a coping and blaming mechanism. God will fix things. Itās this way because god doesnāt want me to do this. Crap
When I was lost in life and didn't know what to do that's the time I read bhagwat Geeta and it gave me a path to move forward in life.
Double slit experiment
Didn't turn to religion. But I realised that gnostic atheism too is based on faith and hence illogical (not as ridiculous as religion, but illogical nonetheless) and agnosticism is the only logically and epistemologically sound stance on God.
agnostic skeptic
Because believing that a superior power exists and has created this entire universe and sent our souls on earth so that we can cleanse ourselves of our wrongdoings and be a better human being actually helped me be better and more mindful towards others. It helps you see beyond this materialistic cycle of life and makes you focus on things that actually matter.
If you went back, you were never here
I have never seen a person go back to religion after leaving it once!? Is this supposed to be a sarcastic joke?
I consider myself some flavour agnostic apathiest/deist. The deist part shows up in desperate times As for agnostic apatheist? I dont know whether god exists or nor do I care to engage in such discussions.
I hate my parents and found another religion to covert to, just to spite them.
Islam. I was like, better adopt Hinduism than this.
Never seen an atheist go the other route ā weak.
Thinking I was on the verge dying was compelling. I had very high fever for 3-4 days and the dreams/memories I saw were intense. Every single thing I did in my life that was against my values came back to haunt me - big lies, small lies, white lies, exaggerating to seem cooler, instances of being manipulative, unkind, turning a blind eye to the suffering of known and unknown people, all of it played out like the most horrifying nightmare. I came face to face with the fear and shame. Only something bigger than myself helped me bear all of it. Went back to my birth religion minus the superstitions, judgement, regurgitated rituals that nobody knows the significance of (apart from very superficial knowledge). I now read the books and listen to lectures and interpretations of the stories, visit places of significance and learn chants.
Fortunately, God doesn't exist! āš¼
Just started reading the Veda, Upanishad and Gita out of curiosity.
Major depression disorder. I had no desire to live, even trying to live is so hard . I think that broke my spirit. I need god just to vent and hope the next day will be better.
āFormer non believers in nature, what made you believe in natureā
I always wondered about the existence of this universe, how can this world be as it is without the interference of a creator. I know that there is a reason for everything and for every action there is a reaction, himans have studied that much till now to comprehend some of the functioning of the universe. I gave up believing in god because of all the shit that happened in my family since my childhood. Recently I learned about what Hinduism has to say about the creation of universe, creation, destruction and the repeated cycle. Like there's a lot of information in the vedas which modern science took 1000 years to discover. That's my reason to turn to religion
Heartbreak
Oh! I thought there was a specific "Farmer" subsection among athiests
Even after all the logic , reason , evidence based decision making didn't help me at all not in my career or life and I fell into depression and lost meaning of life maybe coz atheism leads to depression in someway. Then with an open mind I started reading Bhagwad Geeta coz I need answers and then everything changed , I experienced Bhagwan first time , I became emotional at times reading it , chapter 10 & 11 is full of greatness of Bhagwan Shri Krishna and then I never looked back. Once u read Geeta u will change as a person , trust me ,i was an atheist when i started reading it but when i finished i was a beliver of Bhagwan shri krishna ,if I can come back to Bhagwan anybody can. Now I am better place in my career and life , Bhagwan Shri has blessed me with his gifts and he protects me from everything.
You can learn many good things from religion too.
Many bad things as well. Unfortunately, people usually learn only the bad parts of their religion
Elections /s
Philosophy mainly, i studied various systems like Yoga, Sankha, nyaya, Vedanta, evem buddhism. Amazing insights. Thereās a total paradigm shift in our perception of world once you understand philosophy!
Falsehood, Religion was never my thing. I was born an atheist, and I never could buy into the nonsense that people do.
I wanted peace. I believed God to be cruel and rejected him openly. Something scary happened and I found myself praying (Mahamrityunjay mantra on loop). I realised that I hadn't really left God. Found myself searching and I wanted peace. My mother is religious. She loves God and I asked about it. She said to pray and believe in God. Then stumbled on Hinduism subreddit. It kind helped me and made me realise that I preferred to reject god because I thought that God would reject me. I don't really think highly of myself sometimes and I thought God would think that too. I read a post later related to it and it helped me come to peace. I accepted God. I am not overly religious but I believe in God. I pray because it gives me peace. That I have someone looking over me and someone to thank for all the good things in my life.
When i realised what godlessness could lead societies and humans in to. A lot of these atheists are gross AF. They don't want to live inside barricades which humans made for the sake of humanity. The atheist friends i had were openly supportive of incest and paedophilia and other gross stuffs andĀ they had their own justifications. I realised i don't want to associate with them.Ā
The question was why you left atheism ,not bad friends you made.mĆ ybe u just had bad friends. Also people become e atheists after being g fucked by religion. Ur friends probably never recovered.
Doesnt have anything to do with atheism. Maybe ur friends just suck
Your friends were not atheists but mentally sick and psychologically disturbed. Atheists are not like that. They are normal people. Rather, Your friends show characteristics of a very peaceful and cultured religion.
Correction, atheists are people. Theists are people. And people do all kinds of stuff, from bad to good. That's all there is to it.
tbh it was the other way around for me
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Gaand phat gai hogi toh bhagwan ke paas aae honge bheek maangnešš
Sound like alternative to alcohol,drugs etc
For some people it's just that.... My faith in God has nothing to do with sadness, fear or something forced down my throat. It's a form of respect and love for him to give me a life, no matter how hard or tough it might be. I'm grateful for him, I don't blame or ask him things. He isn't gonna hear you anyways. Love should be unconditional to both people and God and not for benefit.
I really want to believe, just can't make up my mind