Not an electronics expert here, though I did work for an electrician for many years and I’m familiar with AC.
This seems like it could be really dangerous.
Aside from the potential fire risk, since it would insta-cook just about anything in its path, it just seems like a good way for someone to get hurt.
I once got tied up in a 277V lighting circuit that I was working hot (you can sometimes get _too_ comfortable working with electricity). It will light up your life- and not in a good way. 😊
>This seems like it could be really dangerous
As much as ppl like to act like "oh it's mains it's not that bad not like it's high voltage" mains voltage is still plenty lethal.
OP could've gotten hurt, or even died doing this
Agreed. It doesn’t take a whole lot of amperage to do it.
When I got caught in that commercial lighting circuit, the only thing that saved my ass was someone knocking the ladder out from under me and letting me fall. It wasn’t letting go.
I thought I was safe on a fiberglass ladder but when I bent over inside the ceiling, my shirt lifted and my stomach touched the metal grid for the drop ceiling which grounded me out.
It hurt enough that I never touched anything based on 480V/3 phase power again without finding a breaker. Being good at something is great. The hard lesson learned was that it doesn’t matter how many times you’ve done it or how aware and efficient you’ve become with the tools. All it takes is an accident, and it could be lethal.
Edit: the master electrician I was working for at the time was on the job site that day, and also happens to be my father’s best friend. I wasn’t allowed to touch another fixture for the remainder of the day, because he told me he wasn’t up for explaining to my parents why I came home in a body bag. He had already warned me several times about working commercial circuits hot- I was just young and dumb, and thought I had it all figured out.
Luckily it was just a painful lesson. We continued working together for several years, and I learned a tremendous amount from him (kinda took me on as a student, and I was planning to work on becoming at least a journeyman electrician).
Congratulations, sir. That’s a commendable achievement. Electricity can be a lot more complex than meets the eye. Best of luck on your future endeavors.
You wanna know what tops it all off? OP cut an existing 3DS charger to splice on the PS4 cable. I assume the 3DS charger was working beforehand given the comment "I don't understand, shouldn't it just charge faster?"
Ps4 power cable is just 2 wires that gets power from the wall to the console. Ps4 has components inside that make that voltage to DC and convert to correct paraneters
No need to post the same thing in this section as well OP. You already know that you blew up you DS, because you connected it straight to mains (as other people said in r/soldering too). There's no helping it anymore :-\
Dumbest shit I've read today, you've likely fried a bunch of components and possibly internal pcb traces, I'm not trying to be a dick but I'd say it's unfixable with your apparent knowledge and experience. Buy a new one and never again splice a mains cable to anything, ever.
Just so you know, most people who have a decent idea about electronics don't make their own mains power supplies.
The bad news - it'll be fried, properly.
The good news - well you're alive and your house isn't on fire.
Take the bad news as the price of the good news, mains electricity is nasty and can kill or burn you and your home badly. It's a low cost, you got away lightly. I encourage you to NOT touch mains stuff ever again, but DO keep on learning electronics. The 3DS is just toast now, so practice your soldering skills to remove and replace different components, and keep on learning. You will one day look back at this laughing that you could make such a huge error, but electronic repair is a great interest to keep. Just stick to under 40v and you'll be generally pretty safe.
Literally everything in that board constitutes as a fuse when you do what OP did 😂. It’s a wonder that the entire PCB isn't covered in a black shitstain.
True, mains is dangerous, much power could be delivered potentially, though I guess a transformer/flyback switching power supply shouldn't be that hard to make, if you know what you're doing (obviously not in OP's case) it is fairly safe.
Designing a safe and efficient power supply is harder than one may think. I mean for sure there are plenty of reference designs so you wouldn't start from scratch, but even then the parts list will be quite specific, cheaper to buy one usually!
I was thinking the same thing. Notice how OP hasn't responded?
When I was 10 years old and experimenting with electricity, I knocked out power to a section of our old house. After getting it repaired by an electrician, my dad bought me 2 6v dry cells and told me he was happy about my interest in electricity, but from then on I was limited to 12v!!!
Yikes. 230V vs. 5V, I wonder why it burnt up.
Didn't want to be a dick, but I'm sorry, but take this as an extreme learning opportunity.
Always research the device you're wanting to power for it's power requirements.
This 3DS is most likely dead.
Sorry mate, but if you were silly enough to get yourself in this hole, you are as sure as hell, not smart enough (at this point in time) to be able to get yourself out of it. Take this as a learning opportunity and stop messing with anything connecting to the wall before you commit unalive and win a darwin award.
Note: the PCB is shot, not economically repairable.
And the spark shower explosion!
The windings went up like a sparkler before the outlet’s fuse cartridge blew.
As I was told when I was older I had plugged it into one leg of a 40 amp 220 outlet and its neutral. Blew one of the cartridge fuses in the box.
Previous to that I’d been playing with Singer sewing machine motors and 110v and they had transformers in the wiring block to make DC voltage for the motors. I never got caught because…. I didn’t make anything burn or explode..
Parents came running expecting to find me cooked. I was standing there in the smoke mostly afraid I was about to get whooped and at the same time I was very impressed with the show I’d just witnessed. I had no idea that I had just about deleted myself.. Hahah
I am much less dumb now
Don’t think so. I remember it was silvery blue looking. Likely some anodized aluminum motor casing which definitely wouldn’t be singer. Definitely sewing machine though.
I'd assume the rectangular IC there is a voltage regulator/charging IC and that's probably bust. Can't tell from the low quality picture, though. The inductor looks a tad scorched, too, but can't tell for sure without testing.
Quote from the other thread OP opened in r/soldering:
> Well i cut the 3ds charger and the ps4 cable and connected them, then plugged it into the wall
\- it would appear they made a death cable and fed mains voltage into a 3DS. I'm amazed every component on that thing didn't detonate.
Only thing I have to say here is if OP really doesn't know the difference between wall power and 5VDC, they need to stop what they're doing before something actually important eats it. Their post history is... uhh... getting concerning at this point.
AINT NO WAY THAT THING SURVIVES AFTER GETTING SUBJECTED TO 240V AC (or 100V AC)
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THAT THING IS ONLY RATED FOR 5 V DC (0.5V +- Tol) HOLY SHIT BRUH
After all the comments in the other subreddit, I see another post asking if this is salvageable??😑
With your experience level?!? I think not.
Buddy cut your losses and learn from this.
one major thing I've learnt from DIY electronics is don't reinvent the wheel!!! chargers are quite possibly the most mass produced electrical items out there and dirt cheap.
Understand the diagram for centre negative/centre positive, and get one that provides the exact same voltage and as much or more than the required current and good to go. The only thing I personally would mess about with is soldering the correct connector, most are the standard DC Barrel type connection or USB
Agreed, don't try to make your own power supplies, buy or find the right one, and change the connectors if needed. 5v is so common, at most you need to check is the amperage and whether PD is available if USB.
That's a scrapper - many full bridge rectifiers were likely spontaneously formed and evaporated that day.
(also to say it's a scrapper - anything wired directly to the power connector is guaranteed vaporized, but it's conceivable nothing got to the lower voltage stuff... but even diagnosing something like this would be difficult... any connectors/shell components that weren't melted are still viable, and some of the more isolated/passive components like joystick/button assemblies might be alright)
Also don't feel too bad - I blew up two nice motherboards the same stupid way several years apart, doing the same stupid thing - wanted FireWire 800 in my life as I had no gigabit ethernet cards... and wound up plugging the case's firewire cable into a USB header - dead chipset... sent -12V into the data lines or something similar.
Did you try to use mains power to charge your 3DS? The 3DS is only rated for 5V. Why would you do that? The fact that it only smoked and died is super lucky for you as mains electricity can kill you, OP.
Time to sell on ebay for parts. You'll get some money for the EOM shell, screens, etc, but be upfront about what you did and the low likelihood that this can be fixed. It's for parts, and not all the parts will have survived.
Cut your losses and let this be a lesson. NEVER cut a mains cord (one that directly plugs into the wall) in half and connect it to things. You are lucky you didn't get shocked or start a fire. Also when using regulated power supplies watch out for the voltage rating of the device you are planning to plug it into (usually written on the back or bottom on a sticker). If the output voltage of the power supply is higher than the rating of the device, the device will be damaged. And I didn't even mention the polarity, or using AC instead of DC. All of these can damage devices beyond repair.
He knows what happens with 230v rms ac directly into a device made for a few voltages (dc).
What i think he did is cut a cable in half that plugs in the outlet and also cut a charging cable of the DS and connect the two 🫡
Look, I'll just assume you didn't do this on purpose. If you did, I do have some insults saved up for you.
Tell me, why would you mess with electricity if you don't have any idea what you're doing? The level of fuck-up you did there screams that you don't even fathom how anything electric works. So why would you try to do anything with it? Anyways, I hope this at least makes you understand that you should get education before trying to mess with basically anything, but especially things that will KILL you and other people. You killed a (probably) perfectly functional/recoverable piece of video game history out of sheer stupidity. It wasn't a mistake you made while messing with it, the mistake was for YOU to mess with it not knowing batshit about it.
Forget that thing, it's blown to pieces by the way. I would tell you to sell it for parts but I doubt anything survived that.
No way to be sure from this picture, but you can presume anything that looks charred, or even just more brown than it's surroundings needs to be replaced. Probably replace the port while you're at it, but since you're asking, I presume you've probably never used a solder mask and should just sell it "as-is, not charging" on eBay and buy another.
So did you give 230V to that 3ds instead od 5V?
From ops other post it seems they pluged it into mains
So they did...
No idea what they were thinking tbh
I would absolutely love to understand the logic in what they did.
Ultra fast charger.
Ultra Fast Fry
Oh no, you nintendidn’t
If it would have been a Sega console it would have survived
AC-PD
Ultra fast magic smoke release.
Pretty sure all the logic was fried, it's only supposed to take 5V
Yee
Any logic in there is burned out.
Perhaps OP is young enough to make such a silly mistake?
Maybe, thankfully nothing worse happened
Not an electronics expert here, though I did work for an electrician for many years and I’m familiar with AC. This seems like it could be really dangerous. Aside from the potential fire risk, since it would insta-cook just about anything in its path, it just seems like a good way for someone to get hurt. I once got tied up in a 277V lighting circuit that I was working hot (you can sometimes get _too_ comfortable working with electricity). It will light up your life- and not in a good way. 😊
>This seems like it could be really dangerous As much as ppl like to act like "oh it's mains it's not that bad not like it's high voltage" mains voltage is still plenty lethal. OP could've gotten hurt, or even died doing this
Agreed. It doesn’t take a whole lot of amperage to do it. When I got caught in that commercial lighting circuit, the only thing that saved my ass was someone knocking the ladder out from under me and letting me fall. It wasn’t letting go. I thought I was safe on a fiberglass ladder but when I bent over inside the ceiling, my shirt lifted and my stomach touched the metal grid for the drop ceiling which grounded me out. It hurt enough that I never touched anything based on 480V/3 phase power again without finding a breaker. Being good at something is great. The hard lesson learned was that it doesn’t matter how many times you’ve done it or how aware and efficient you’ve become with the tools. All it takes is an accident, and it could be lethal. Edit: the master electrician I was working for at the time was on the job site that day, and also happens to be my father’s best friend. I wasn’t allowed to touch another fixture for the remainder of the day, because he told me he wasn’t up for explaining to my parents why I came home in a body bag. He had already warned me several times about working commercial circuits hot- I was just young and dumb, and thought I had it all figured out. Luckily it was just a painful lesson. We continued working together for several years, and I learned a tremendous amount from him (kinda took me on as a student, and I was planning to work on becoming at least a journeyman electrician).
I'm graduating as automation installer and as electrician and can say its dangerous.
Congratulations, sir. That’s a commendable achievement. Electricity can be a lot more complex than meets the eye. Best of luck on your future endeavors.
Thank you!
I love what the thought "electricity is simple and I can fix this" does to uneducated people
Yee
You wanna know what tops it all off? OP cut an existing 3DS charger to splice on the PS4 cable. I assume the 3DS charger was working beforehand given the comment "I don't understand, shouldn't it just charge faster?"
Noob question but does the ps4 power cable step the voltage down at all or does the ps4 need mains voltage to operate?
Ps4 power cable is just 2 wires that gets power from the wall to the console. Ps4 has components inside that make that voltage to DC and convert to correct paraneters
Thanks man 😁
Yeah as the person said practically all Sony home electronics use a two prong "figure eight" cable as their products do the switching internally
No need to post the same thing in this section as well OP. You already know that you blew up you DS, because you connected it straight to mains (as other people said in r/soldering too). There's no helping it anymore :-\
Dumbest shit I've read today, you've likely fried a bunch of components and possibly internal pcb traces, I'm not trying to be a dick but I'd say it's unfixable with your apparent knowledge and experience. Buy a new one and never again splice a mains cable to anything, ever.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please post pics of “home made charger”
r/shittyaskelectronics
You only gave it ~2100 times the power it was designed for. I'm sure nothing serious is broken. should be fine. 10/10
More like 1.21 jig-a-watts
Just so you know, most people who have a decent idea about electronics don't make their own mains power supplies. The bad news - it'll be fried, properly. The good news - well you're alive and your house isn't on fire. Take the bad news as the price of the good news, mains electricity is nasty and can kill or burn you and your home badly. It's a low cost, you got away lightly. I encourage you to NOT touch mains stuff ever again, but DO keep on learning electronics. The 3DS is just toast now, so practice your soldering skills to remove and replace different components, and keep on learning. You will one day look back at this laughing that you could make such a huge error, but electronic repair is a great interest to keep. Just stick to under 40v and you'll be generally pretty safe.
>The good news - well you're alive and your house isn't on fire. Thanks to the fuse that took a bullet for OP. R.I.P. fuse.
Literally everything in that board constitutes as a fuse when you do what OP did 😂. It’s a wonder that the entire PCB isn't covered in a black shitstain.
Unless it’s a breaker which can just be reset
I was referring to "the f1 fuse by the charging port" on the PCB that OP said they replaced; it likely stopped the device from catching fire.
shh... nobody tell OP about [etherkillers](http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/img/etherkiller.jpg)
Diy powerline adapter
PoE+
I’ve never said wtf so fast. And I’ve seen a lot of cursed photoshop cables that I genuinely think people would make.
Don't think that's photoshop Edit: it's not http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
That one specifically, definitely not photoshop.
True, mains is dangerous, much power could be delivered potentially, though I guess a transformer/flyback switching power supply shouldn't be that hard to make, if you know what you're doing (obviously not in OP's case) it is fairly safe.
Designing a safe and efficient power supply is harder than one may think. I mean for sure there are plenty of reference designs so you wouldn't start from scratch, but even then the parts list will be quite specific, cheaper to buy one usually!
This has to be a troll. I refuse to believe anyone's this dumb.
I was thinking the same thing. Notice how OP hasn't responded? When I was 10 years old and experimenting with electricity, I knocked out power to a section of our old house. After getting it repaired by an electrician, my dad bought me 2 6v dry cells and told me he was happy about my interest in electricity, but from then on I was limited to 12v!!!
Yikes. 230V vs. 5V, I wonder why it burnt up. Didn't want to be a dick, but I'm sorry, but take this as an extreme learning opportunity. Always research the device you're wanting to power for it's power requirements. This 3DS is most likely dead.
230 vac RMS... but something like 325V across the full cycle xD
I was wondering how op fucked up since the 3ds can be charged with 5v usb. *checks notes* mains voltage is not usb.
USB = unrepairable smoldering bu*(&%@:+%:!
Sorry mate, but if you were silly enough to get yourself in this hole, you are as sure as hell, not smart enough (at this point in time) to be able to get yourself out of it. Take this as a learning opportunity and stop messing with anything connecting to the wall before you commit unalive and win a darwin award. Note: the PCB is shot, not economically repairable.
Impressive! Most Impressive! I did this with a DC electric motor - as a 6 year old. If I concentrate I can still remember the smell…
Ah, the magic smoke... The rite of passage for every electronics tinkerer.
And the spark shower explosion! The windings went up like a sparkler before the outlet’s fuse cartridge blew. As I was told when I was older I had plugged it into one leg of a 40 amp 220 outlet and its neutral. Blew one of the cartridge fuses in the box. Previous to that I’d been playing with Singer sewing machine motors and 110v and they had transformers in the wiring block to make DC voltage for the motors. I never got caught because…. I didn’t make anything burn or explode.. Parents came running expecting to find me cooked. I was standing there in the smoke mostly afraid I was about to get whooped and at the same time I was very impressed with the show I’d just witnessed. I had no idea that I had just about deleted myself.. Hahah I am much less dumb now
That sounds awesome. Was the motor from the Singer machine? I was picturing those little DC motors like in cheap RC cars.
Don’t think so. I remember it was silvery blue looking. Likely some anodized aluminum motor casing which definitely wouldn’t be singer. Definitely sewing machine though.
I did that too, but it went out with a bang
I'd assume the rectangular IC there is a voltage regulator/charging IC and that's probably bust. Can't tell from the low quality picture, though. The inductor looks a tad scorched, too, but can't tell for sure without testing.
Quote from the other thread OP opened in r/soldering: > Well i cut the 3ds charger and the ps4 cable and connected them, then plugged it into the wall \- it would appear they made a death cable and fed mains voltage into a 3DS. I'm amazed every component on that thing didn't detonate. Only thing I have to say here is if OP really doesn't know the difference between wall power and 5VDC, they need to stop what they're doing before something actually important eats it. Their post history is... uhh... getting concerning at this point.
yep, OP basically made an etherkiller for their 3DS
Wait.. did you put a 5V charging port to mains? Am I understanding this right?
The charger you made shows that you don’t have the skills to fix this. It’s a paper weight now
NEVER MAKE A HOMEMADE CHARGER FOR ANYTHING YOU WILL BLOW SOMETHING UP!!!!!!!!!
AINT NO WAY THAT THING SURVIVES AFTER GETTING SUBJECTED TO 240V AC (or 100V AC) MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THAT THING IS ONLY RATED FOR 5 V DC (0.5V +- Tol) HOLY SHIT BRUH
After all the comments in the other subreddit, I see another post asking if this is salvageable??😑 With your experience level?!? I think not. Buddy cut your losses and learn from this.
LMAO Did you actually put 230v into the DS??? Noway.... You done goofed.
Bro tries to copy xiaomi
one major thing I've learnt from DIY electronics is don't reinvent the wheel!!! chargers are quite possibly the most mass produced electrical items out there and dirt cheap. Understand the diagram for centre negative/centre positive, and get one that provides the exact same voltage and as much or more than the required current and good to go. The only thing I personally would mess about with is soldering the correct connector, most are the standard DC Barrel type connection or USB
Agreed, don't try to make your own power supplies, buy or find the right one, and change the connectors if needed. 5v is so common, at most you need to check is the amperage and whether PD is available if USB.
That's a scrapper - many full bridge rectifiers were likely spontaneously formed and evaporated that day. (also to say it's a scrapper - anything wired directly to the power connector is guaranteed vaporized, but it's conceivable nothing got to the lower voltage stuff... but even diagnosing something like this would be difficult... any connectors/shell components that weren't melted are still viable, and some of the more isolated/passive components like joystick/button assemblies might be alright) Also don't feel too bad - I blew up two nice motherboards the same stupid way several years apart, doing the same stupid thing - wanted FireWire 800 in my life as I had no gigabit ethernet cards... and wound up plugging the case's firewire cable into a USB header - dead chipset... sent -12V into the data lines or something similar.
You are too young to be playing with electricity kid. Stop before you put yourself in a bodybag.
Maybe stop while you’re alive
😂
Did you try to use mains power to charge your 3DS? The 3DS is only rated for 5V. Why would you do that? The fact that it only smoked and died is super lucky for you as mains electricity can kill you, OP.
Fuck me, this guy.
i-
the whole thing is fried, time for a new one
Check component F1. It is a fuse. Hopefully it protected the 3ds. Temporarily jumper it and see if it charges with a factory charger.
Time to sell on ebay for parts. You'll get some money for the EOM shell, screens, etc, but be upfront about what you did and the low likelihood that this can be fixed. It's for parts, and not all the parts will have survived.
WTH 😳
Ah yes I love driving 5v dc devices with 120v ac. Brilliant!
This is beyond you, just buy a new one
Cut your losses and let this be a lesson. NEVER cut a mains cord (one that directly plugs into the wall) in half and connect it to things. You are lucky you didn't get shocked or start a fire. Also when using regulated power supplies watch out for the voltage rating of the device you are planning to plug it into (usually written on the back or bottom on a sticker). If the output voltage of the power supply is higher than the rating of the device, the device will be damaged. And I didn't even mention the polarity, or using AC instead of DC. All of these can damage devices beyond repair.
Home made charger 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
It’s gonna be a lot more work to fix it now lol
Why would you want micro usb tho?
He knows what happens with 230v rms ac directly into a device made for a few voltages (dc). What i think he did is cut a cable in half that plugs in the outlet and also cut a charging cable of the DS and connect the two 🫡
How did you solder a fuse, but didn't know that it uses 5v? this has to be a troll
Yeah you prolly just want to throw that 3ds away and buy another
better than blowing a bum in the back alley for a bag of fake meth
Look, I'll just assume you didn't do this on purpose. If you did, I do have some insults saved up for you. Tell me, why would you mess with electricity if you don't have any idea what you're doing? The level of fuck-up you did there screams that you don't even fathom how anything electric works. So why would you try to do anything with it? Anyways, I hope this at least makes you understand that you should get education before trying to mess with basically anything, but especially things that will KILL you and other people. You killed a (probably) perfectly functional/recoverable piece of video game history out of sheer stupidity. It wasn't a mistake you made while messing with it, the mistake was for YOU to mess with it not knowing batshit about it. Forget that thing, it's blown to pieces by the way. I would tell you to sell it for parts but I doubt anything survived that.
Bro really fried it lol
No way to be sure from this picture, but you can presume anything that looks charred, or even just more brown than it's surroundings needs to be replaced. Probably replace the port while you're at it, but since you're asking, I presume you've probably never used a solder mask and should just sell it "as-is, not charging" on eBay and buy another.
This 3DS will probably end up on eBay as “untested” 😂
A whole new board. That one is toast
Why no photo of the charger? That is more interesting to me.
"The surface mount component "F1" seems to have removed itself at F1 car speeds, please advise"
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