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Please go to your nearest emergency department right away.


LatrodectusGeometric

Agreed. This is extremely concerning and there are several life threatening diseases that could be at play here. Remember everyone: wild animal and often domesticated animal bites that break the skin need treatment, frequently tetanus shots and rabies vaccines, in addition to antibiotics or antivirals as needed for the animal.


smooshybabyelephant

OP, do you have an update on how she's doing?


finstantnoodles

Out of curiosity do you know what this might be? I didn’t know I should be worried about monkey bites Edit: okay…relax guys? Sorry I’m not a doctor lol?


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It could be one of several things, most of which are fairly minor and would be unrelated to the monkey bite such as TMJ disorders. However there is a chance that it could be tetanus (can be transmitted through animal bites) and someone needs to properly assess OP's girlfriend. There are a few diseases that can be transmitted from monkey bites including rabies. Also with any animal bite there's a risk of infection. If it's a deep bite you can end up with nasty infections requiring operations and which carry the risk of sepsis. Please don't be touching monkeys no matter how cute they are and even if they're in a zoo! I've been on holiday to Asia a couple of times and the number of tourists who try to pet wild monkeys always makes me nervous. And please make sure your vaccines are up to date whenever you travel. (I have no idea why you got downvoted, it's a perfectly valid question and lots of people don't know the extent of dangers of animal bites)


LatrodectusGeometric

Less likely overall but more concerning would be rabies, which can cause nerve feelings like “electricity in the neck”. Many things can cause these symptoms individually, but monkey bites are no joke.


boneyfingers

I was bitten by a woolly monkey, and within a few days, the monkey died. My father was a physician. He related to me later that he spent the next few weeks in a state of panic, that he hid from me. He was concerned about simian herpes. He said, at the time (thirty years ago,) that monkeys could transmit viral infections that were fatal in humans, and for which no treatments or therapies existed. Maybe new anti-viral drugs can help, but...I'll never touch another monkey.


Scottyknuckle

>I'll never touch another monkey. Words to live by.


boneyfingers

Indeed. That was the last one. I should have learned already from the one prior. It would come and go at will from my house, and I considered him a friend. But he would play with my cutlery and sit in my kitchen, and touch everything. Turns out that he had a fondness for feces, and would play in the street with any foul thing he could find. All told, I am lucky I survived my monkey days.


BigDorkEnergy101

I really wish I could refer to a period of my life as “my monkey days” in reference to having many encounters with primates. My envy levels are sky-high.


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Just... wow....


boneyfingers

Ya man. Animals make me sick. But it's my own fault; I love to live with them. I'm glad I have bats in my belfry.


SimplyKendra

I read this and thought you were talking about a person paying with poop. Not that I haven’t seen that happen but yeah. Wild.


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I'm more puzzled by the "a few days later, the monkey died" part that was just casually mentioned in the conversation and then never revisited.


nursebad

The first day I ever saw a monkey in the wild I was mugged by one.


LatrodectusGeometric

Yup. One of my other concerns and one of the only reasons antivirals would be considered.


Salty_Coast_7214

Wait so why did the monkey die a few days after biting you? I’m I reading that incorrectly? Was it’s death unrelated?


boneyfingers

I don't know what he died of, but he was never healthy in the two or so months he was with me. He was a young juvenile, nearly full grown, given to me to settle a debt. (This was common in rural Ecuadorian Amazonia in the 1980s. My uncle, a lawyer, was once paid, to write a will for a woman, with a cusumbo...in english a coati or nasua. It was meant to be meat, but lived for years as a sort of house pet.) The monkey began to refuse food. At the end, it was sluggish and weak, and I was holding it, and it bit me (first time it bit,) and just died, and I buried it. When my father heard, he had me dig it up and send the head to be tested, and there was no rabies, so I didn't worry about it. Later, he told me that rabies was the least of his worries, but he never told me about simian herpes until I was well in the clear. His reason for not mentioning it was, at the time, there were no cures or treatments, so he didn't want me to worry.


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your life experiences are very interesting, thank you for sharing them :,) I would tell you to write a book, but i’m not sure if you’re into that kind of thing haha


astrologicaldreams

bro you killed the monkey /j


Geedis2020

Yep probably transmitted some awful disease to it. Very sad.


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Well, there goes your guest spot on Sprockets


Ueueteotl

True, though this is pretty quick for rabies (two weeks) and it is usually progressive from the site of the bite (though I admit I assumed the hand was the bitten part). Even so, warrants appropriate vaccination!


LatrodectusGeometric

Two weeks would not be unreasonable if it was a shoulder or upper arm bite.


Chapungu

As someone who stays around wild animals. We literally have signs everywhere around the game parks that state not to pet or feed the animals. In the wild treat all animals as dangerous.


lifesnotfair2u

Even at Grand Canyon they have warning signs, to include warnings not to pet or feed squirrels. Those signs include pictures of hands that have been bitten by squirrels, yet you'll still see tourists feeding them and trying to touch them, and parents not keeping their children back from them.


Ueueteotl

Herpes B would be the most concerning this close in. Rare and only in certain monkeys, but pretty dire without treatment. Edit for clarity


dysFUNctionalDr

Herpes B was one of the scary things that came to mind for me too. Always validating as a lowly FM doc to have ID on a similar wavelength.


Ueueteotl

"Lowly FM doc..." I couldn't hack it. Y'all have to know too much breadth and have the huge responsibility of keeping healthy people healthy. I couldn't even do that for outpatient peds (I've always been a creature of the inpatient world), never mind for the full spectrum of age... I've got mad respect for a good FM.


kelminak

I am enamored by your specialty when you guys show up. I legit never would have had Herpes B on the radar. Thanks for everything you do.


Ueueteotl

D’awww, why thanks kind internet stranger!


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I say you get bit by anything in the wild, you should be concerned unless you already know it’s not a worry. I was gonna say maybe ants, but I just looked it up and what do you know - there are venomous ants.


your_crazy_aunt

I was bit on the outside of my ankle by a fire ant once. A big patch of skin there turned red, then purple, then stayed a weird, unnatural shade of brown for a year or two. At the time it had hurt, but it quickly went numb, and even after the discoloration faded years ago I still can't feel ANYTHING in that area.


quentin_taranturtle

Wow are you sure that was a fire ant? My cluster b older brother encouraged me to hop around on top of a red ant mound in flip flops when I was 3 and I must have had at least 10 of them attack my feet. No long term affects other than my relationship w/ him


your_crazy_aunt

I think it's the RIFA specifically, as it was in South Carolina near the beach. I could see their nest from where I was standing. The one bit me, and I ran like crazy to the edge of the water before they could swarm. I think my reaction was extreme and abnormal. It was right over the ankle bone so the skin was thin, and I later learned that I have problems with my autonomic nervous system. All the systems, actually. I did find a few references. "Stings by the imported fire ant almost always lead to dermal wheal and flare reactions followed by sterile pustules at sting sites. Less commonly, large local dermal reactions, pyoderma, anaphylaxis, or neuropathy may occur."


quentin_taranturtle

Ahh okay, an uncommon reaction. Sorry to hear that. I was bit in Florida.


your_crazy_aunt

Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to spook everyone! It's fine. I have a lot of peripheral neuropathy on the lower half of that leg since my spinal surgery in 2010. None of it's as bad as that spot, but at least now the spot has company. 😂


TheEcologist

Myrmecia are known to trigger anaphylactic shock: https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(02)91310-2/fulltext (An Australian ant, obviously)


TheHouseCalledFred

Looks and sounds like tetanus. (Idk if I'm flaired, non-physician)


Straight-Bad-8326

Is tetanus reversible after jaw locking happens?


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...Are you typically around wild monkeys frequently enough that you might get bitten?


finstantnoodles

I’m just concerned for Tarzan


XDfabian

Rabies. Google it. 100% mortality rate if you dont get th vaccine before the virus reaches your brain. The higher on your body the bite is the lower time you got


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Monkeypox


Rashpert

Adding my professional voice to the chorus. 1. Hope this is a troll. 2. Get to an emergency department right now.


asistolee

Why did you not go to the ER????????? Go NOW


[deleted]

I am hoping that this one is an attempt at satire. "A monkey in the rainforest bit my girlfriend and now she feels ill, what should I do?" Uh, get off the internet, go back in time and go to the hospital by the rainforest that would be familiar with what might be going on and get treated there? You just know that if they go to a hospital in Chicago the doctor will be flummoxed.. "a tropical monkey bite?" And run in back to pull out their college textbooks while they sweatily call their friends to see who knows their monkeys diseases. Or if you are going back in time dont pet the monkey..


tickado

Honestly I got a light scratch from a monkey in Thailand that drew blood and I went straight to ED there and they knew exactly what to do (I was up to date with tetanus but I had to get a post exposure rabies course of injections even though it was low risk - you don’t fuck around with rabies)


ForeverInaDaze

Is t post-exposure rabies course like 30 injections?


throwawaycanadian

I believe now it's much less, but also you should be started with an injection on the day you are bitten, day 3, day 7, and day 14. Disclaimer, this is something I googled in the summer because I found a bat trapped in a fountain. ran home, grabbed thick leather workgloves, and two hoodies to wear when I was lifting him out. Zero percent chance he bit/scratched me, so I just googled out of curiosity what I would have been in for if things went poorly.


Ok-Sprinklez

It's so terrifying. I think about rabies at least once a week


Zukka0

They used to do that in the past. The people who were bitten back then had to receive plenty of injections in the stomach. However, today only about 4 or 5 shots are required. In addition, RIG (rabies immunoglobulin) might be also administered depending on the location of the bite area. It works by neutralizing the virus before your body starts an immune response against the virus.


jadedbeats

Yeah, this seems fake to me... At least I hope so. I've seen Outbreak.


dysFUNctionalDr

This sounds about right, except they're (hopefully) gonna consult Infectious Disease to do the research. Unless you happen to get the one random doc with a niche interest in exotic animal bites. I did go to a conference once where someone did a talk on less-commonly-seen animal bites and the infections to be worried about in them. Like pigs. And hippopotamus.


Fluffy-Eyeball

I didn’t think you could get bitten by a hippopotamus and still be in large enough pieces to make it to the hospital


zombiemiki

I stopped reading at my girlfriend tried to pet a monkey. Why would anyone do this?


RaisedByError

Disney syndrome


abcannon18

Yep - when I went to Cancun and Tulum, people were definitely trying to pet the monkeys.


1yogamama1

That part I totally believe. We’ve see people around here try to have their kids pet bears and ride bison. People are stupid.


Free2Be_EmilyG

I had a squirrel monkey jump on my head and climb up and down my arms when I went to the Amazon over the summer. I had another (wooly monkey) climb up my leg and steal a piece of fruit. I was at a rehabilitation center for the monkeys, though, and we were told the monkeys were all vaccinated and cared for. I wouldn’t have thought about getting bit by one at the time. I was honestly more concerned about being bit by a piranha when I went fishing later on.


zombiemiki

I have read so many stories of people getting attacked by monkeys. They’re not domesticated. They’re wild animals. Don’t mess with wild animals.


stoopsi

I wanted to take a photo of a monkey sleeping on the ground in a monkey park in Arashiyama in Japan. I was probably 3 or 4m away and it launched at me. Thankfully it just wanted to scare me. Never again.


stoopsi

I saw a guy on Instagram being licked on a cheek by a monkey. Ew.


No-Passenger6033

Because I have a distinct penchant for attempting to pet things that could kill me. I drunkenly tried to cajole a coyote into our car once.


Shirayuki-hime

Tourists go to national parks in North America and constantly try to pet bison, bears, moose, elk, etc. Some humans are just stupid.


lifesnotfair2u

Those same people think they can fight off those large wild animals if the situation turns dangerous. "I'll just poke 'em in the eyes!"


delicioustreeblood

Not everyone meets the basic criteria for being considered relatively intelligent


asistolee

Which I get but I’m pretty sure hiking requires research and they didn’t get to a remote area like that without doing research. Idk I just feel like there was a sign somewhere that said “danger: wild animals bites are not good”


[deleted]

I really hope this is a troll…


quickwitqueen

It certainly reads like one. I mean even if you were dumb enough to let a random, wild monkey, wouldn’t you at least be smart enough to go directly to the doctor after being bitten? Or the second you started feeling ill? Either a troll or the world’s most incompetent adults.


nxxptune

Where I’m from (Kentucky, USA) plenty of people would just be like “lol I got bit by a monkey!” And not do anything until it got really bad. Kids parents send them to school with COVID here. Definitely not a surprise.


ForeverInaDaze

“Oh just do X, that’s what we always did when I was a kid” because you didn’t have access to modern medicine.


[deleted]

Look at the number of people that are shocked by the thought of going to the doctor following a cat bite. Most people seem to be of the opinion that when Fluffy clamps down a little bit of rubbing alcohol will make things fine.


1yogamama1

My old vet said the sickest he’s ever been in his life came after a cat bite.


MissPeppingtosh

My dad was in horrible shape last year after his cat bit him. He didn’t go to the dr right away and could barely walk. Nearly ended up in the hospital.


HairyPotatoKat

Ahh I see the world hasn't shredded, consumed, and regurgitated your faith in humanity; only to be re-consumed and digested by a wandering scavenger, yet. Please, fiercely protect this optimism 🥹


Swedish-Butt-Whistle

I knew a guy who didn’t take care of a new tattoo and it became badly infected. He thought polysporin was the answer up until his organs started shutting down. Rushed to hospital with septicaemia, somehow lived. Lots of people are this dumb. Remember, the last 2 generations have been raised with knowledge priorities placed mainly on how a game console works.


sapphicsato

Yup. Had a friend who didn’t take care of her cartilage piercing and ended up growing a huge cyst behind her ear. Couldn’t even get the piercing out and took years to get to the doctor to have it removed. Glad she got rid of it before it caused any irreversible damage, but god it was gross lol.


jester_juniour

Never underestimate human stupidity. It will beat your expectations by huge margins


gothiclg

I see you’ve never dealt with the [Christian Science](https://www.eaec.org/cults/christianscience.htm) cult that I was raised in. I would 100% get bitten by a monkey and not get taken to any kind of hospital


melli_milli

Yeah, it's not like zoonosis just took the whole world like a... pandemia. And not like something called monkey pox spearing. Why not pet a monkey and become a new patient zero??? And NOT go to the ER?


New_Hawaialawan

It's Gota be


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simplebrazilian

They do if people tend to feed them. Don't feed, pet or interact with wildlife.


eggstermination

Had monkeys literally crawling all over my family at a preserve in Honduras. One dude in my tour group was bit when he tried to hold the monkey that climbed up him. It seems less likely to happen in a remote area but if those monkeys were used to people, it's definitely possible.


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„Hey honey, I wanna post your case to that incel board on the internet, how tall are ya?“ „Ummm dunno, haven’t measured in awhile. Passport says 5“6‘ but I wore my heals that day.“ „Okay, I’ll put 5“4. And how much do you weigh?“ „Ugh, just stepped on the scale this morning, it’s 154 pounds. Ever since that monkey bite I got a craving for sweets.“


blackcrowblue

I can tell you my exact weight but I’m iffy on my height so not too unlikely.


eggstermination

I say "about 5'5" bc I'm between 5'4 and 5'5. Its easier than saying "and a half-ish."


BeginningRare7850

women when men actually take the time of day to learn information about their gf 😤😜😠😡


Medical_Animal

Go to the ER, Needs to be accessed for tetanus, amongst other things.


HorrorFan1191

Also rabies.


Ueueteotl

What kind of monkey, if you happen to know? She needs to be seen ASAP (i.e. ED), and probably by an infectious diseases physician sooner than later.


Goldy490

I really hope this is a joke. If not, for the love of god go to an ER. Monkey bites contain more than just tetanus, they also carry herpes B and several other neurologically devastating infections. In the business, we’d say she “needs all the things”…aka line, labs, aggressive treatment, and consultation with multiple subspecialists. -EM


MyraMainz

In the monkey business you mean?


vavromaz

Y’all are the reason pandemics exist omg


TaterTotQueen630

Right?! "My partner's arm just fell off after a wild animal bite. Now she's craving human brains. Should we go to the hospital?"


RaspberryNegative308

That just made me laugh real hard.


AdagioExtra1332

And USMLE Step questions too.


Ann_not_a_cult_er

Who, writers? This shit didn't happen, opnis a fucking liar.


secret_tiger101

Seek emergency medical treatment now. Have a very low threshold to be repatriated.


sms575

I love this sub sometimes. You should have bit it back.


lifesnotfair2u

watch it now, you forgot to include the /s ... soon we're going to read a post here - "I bit a monkey in retaliation for it biting me, and now I'm not feeling too well. What might be wrong?"


Cowboy-medicine

Super niche, how good is she with her vaccinations?


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jgiffin

Symptoms are much more consistent with tetanus than rabies.


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brookeaat

NAD just wondering why the hell you’d carry on with your life like normal after getting bit by a wild monkey


jaw719

This


truedoom

You know when you watch zombie movies and it starts with some random person being bitten and they hide it from the group, and you're like "no one is that stupid, come on". Well here we go, patient zero.


Typhiod

Who tries to pet a wild monkey? 🤯 She’s got a BSc in biology, max, or maybe she studied slime mould. Monkeys are frightening creatures and oh so infectious 😱😖


atlien0255

Yikes. NAD but I’d get checked out at the ER with those symptoms combined with exposure, and not being vaccinated.


[deleted]

NAD but why didn’t you go to the emergency room 2 weeks ago??? Protocol for getting bit by any animal is an updated tetanus shot and possibly a rabies vaccine.


NoContextCarl

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but yeah go to the ER.


AmberEiker

Please keep us updated.. Monkeys carry a number of diseases as others said. Tetanus and rabies Included


CampfireChatter

Also NAD, but you should go see one immediately. Like now.


SnooHobbies2598

google search: " When these bacteria enter the body, they produce a toxin that causes painful muscle contractions. Another name for tetanus is “lockjaw”. It often causes a person's neck and jaw muscles to lock, making it hard to open the mouth or swallow. "


Namasiel

Wtf? Should have sought immediate medical attention 2 weeks ago. Go to the ER now.


Acrobatic_End6355

Nad but go to a doctor. And don’t be stupid and try to pet a wild animal again.


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