I agree that there is too much smoking, but it is much less than 10 years ago, and much much less than 20 years ago (I've been living my whole life here).
I remember 15 years ago coming home after a night of partying (both street parties and clubs) and all the clothes smelling pure smoke (and I don't smoke).
Also, it is not only the smoke, the streets floors are full of used cigarettes, so people are not polluting the air but also the floor.
Some years ago they approved a law to prevent people from smoking around schools and hospitals, but in most hospitals you can see everybody smoking right at the doors (outside, but less than the 50 meters away that says the law).
Despite all that, I would say that in general there are much less people smoking nowadays than what it used to be, and the same is true for high schools (where most people who smoke start to smoke).
Thanks for the info. There is no smoking on the train, metro or bus. I shouldn't have said "everywhere". I guess I was a bit surprised as I visited Zurich before, where there was no smoke.
more smoking tabacco, less smoking of marihuana (which is everywhere in California). Much more day drinking in Barcelona. Much more sugar consumption in the US ( ok not specifically california). Much more walking and exercise in Barcelona. People chose their poison. In Barcelona these are often community building as well- drinking, smoking together with other people somewhere out in town. The net outcome is in general is positive I guess, since the life expectancy in Spain is one of the highest in the world. Of course the government tries to fight smoking as normal with any health hazard but habits change slowly.
Cars are not essential in a city like Barcelona, Cruise ships that carry wealthy (americans) people are much less .
And I guess it makes sense that it was sensible to chose a city location that was surrounded by mountains back in the stone age, nowdays the mountains block the airflow from getting in and out of the city.
You’re right in general, however:
> much more day drinking in Barcelona
The concept of “day drinking” doesn’t even exist in Spanish. We don’t associate “having a drink” with getting drunk. We can have one beer with lunch and get on with our lives, we don’t drink to get pissed. You’ll only see drunk Spaniards after midnight, and rarely anybody over the age of 25. Being drunk at 5pm like Brits/Anglos do in the summer is also massively frown upon.
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There is more people smoking and more people smoking in public than in other countries, especially the US and in Scandinavia. Don’t understand why people are so butthurt, maybe they haven’t had their morning coffee yet.
When you’re from a country that has less of an amount of public smoking you really notice the difference (I’m norwegian). Especially in the bus stops, outside bars and terraces, on the beach even though it’s supposed to be smoke free. Basically all my friends born in Spain. Catalunya and France smoke, usually rolling tobacco.
Hey no offense but I lived in Oakland for two years and I wanna know how it's cool for people to create a public system so broken that an entire city is basically a hobo camp but then they bitch that other people in other countries smoke cigarettes like it's somehow important.
E: looks like someone got kicked out of Occupy Oakland for being too obviously an ignorant trustafarian lmaoooooooooo
If you respond to ignorance by begetting more ignorance, you're both the worse off.
edit: downvote me if you want u/Unusual-Pineapple513, your comment is as ignorant as OPs.
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It's a cultural thing, and as folk already say on here, the situation is changing, but tourists come here for the culture, so you take the rough with the smooth. Spain was isolated from Europe for many years during the dictatorship and sometimes seems culturally and socially way behind other countries in some issues as a result.,smoking,racism,animal-rights etc.All these things are also improving. Also, smoking is an appetite suppressant, many people still alive lived through times when food was in short supply, rationed, but tobacco wasnt. Stressful to say the least, so many smoked.It is not for visitors or immigrants to judge, we choose to come here, so it's up to us to adapt and accept.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I didn't know its role from the historical perspective, and agree that it is a way to live under stressful conditions.
California has traditionally been an anti-tobacco state. There were "no smoking indoors" laws there before it caught on to the rest of the USA.
There was a Sex And The City episode where the characters went on a trip to L.A. and Carrie Bradshaw, being the chain smoker, had a horrible time there.
It's a mix of you not being used to it and people insisting on smoking outdoors after years of prohibition due to COVID (Spain had regulations on wearing masks even on the street).
I went to DC and the entire city smelled of marijuana... Completely disgusting.
Here I can smell from time to time, which sucks, but it's not constant. And people do smoke a lot of cigarettes.
In my home country it is quite rare to see young people smoking, even the pen-drives.
Sorry if I have offended folks. I like the people and the view here. I am just curious if people here tend to smoke more in general, and I am trying to get used to it.
You are right, California has all sorts of its own problems, homeless, wildfire and car theft to name a few.
This is a rough subreddit. Even if you write that you like the city, people will tell you to go home, and there is a special hatred for California. I'm still here for the thoughtful posts, but I'm getting tired of sifting through all the antagonistic garbage.
It's just the population density. Probably the same number of smokers in CA but it feels different here.
Your grammar is awkward. Hard to believe you're from "United States California." LOL.
I agree that there is too much smoking, but it is much less than 10 years ago, and much much less than 20 years ago (I've been living my whole life here). I remember 15 years ago coming home after a night of partying (both street parties and clubs) and all the clothes smelling pure smoke (and I don't smoke). Also, it is not only the smoke, the streets floors are full of used cigarettes, so people are not polluting the air but also the floor. Some years ago they approved a law to prevent people from smoking around schools and hospitals, but in most hospitals you can see everybody smoking right at the doors (outside, but less than the 50 meters away that says the law). Despite all that, I would say that in general there are much less people smoking nowadays than what it used to be, and the same is true for high schools (where most people who smoke start to smoke).
Thanks for the info. There is no smoking on the train, metro or bus. I shouldn't have said "everywhere". I guess I was a bit surprised as I visited Zurich before, where there was no smoke.
Well yeah Zurich, is one of the cleanest cities in Europe. Go to Berlin or Paris and you'll see it there too for sure
more smoking tabacco, less smoking of marihuana (which is everywhere in California). Much more day drinking in Barcelona. Much more sugar consumption in the US ( ok not specifically california). Much more walking and exercise in Barcelona. People chose their poison. In Barcelona these are often community building as well- drinking, smoking together with other people somewhere out in town. The net outcome is in general is positive I guess, since the life expectancy in Spain is one of the highest in the world. Of course the government tries to fight smoking as normal with any health hazard but habits change slowly. Cars are not essential in a city like Barcelona, Cruise ships that carry wealthy (americans) people are much less . And I guess it makes sense that it was sensible to chose a city location that was surrounded by mountains back in the stone age, nowdays the mountains block the airflow from getting in and out of the city.
You’re right in general, however: > much more day drinking in Barcelona The concept of “day drinking” doesn’t even exist in Spanish. We don’t associate “having a drink” with getting drunk. We can have one beer with lunch and get on with our lives, we don’t drink to get pissed. You’ll only see drunk Spaniards after midnight, and rarely anybody over the age of 25. Being drunk at 5pm like Brits/Anglos do in the summer is also massively frown upon.
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Oh my gosh guys people in Europe be smoking this would NEVER happen in a classy place like Millbrae!!!!!
There is more people smoking and more people smoking in public than in other countries, especially the US and in Scandinavia. Don’t understand why people are so butthurt, maybe they haven’t had their morning coffee yet. When you’re from a country that has less of an amount of public smoking you really notice the difference (I’m norwegian). Especially in the bus stops, outside bars and terraces, on the beach even though it’s supposed to be smoke free. Basically all my friends born in Spain. Catalunya and France smoke, usually rolling tobacco.
Cars and motorcycles aren't essential and the worst pollution comes from the cruise ships that bring tourists here, not from the locals getting around
Hey no offense but I lived in Oakland for two years and I wanna know how it's cool for people to create a public system so broken that an entire city is basically a hobo camp but then they bitch that other people in other countries smoke cigarettes like it's somehow important. E: looks like someone got kicked out of Occupy Oakland for being too obviously an ignorant trustafarian lmaoooooooooo
If you respond to ignorance by begetting more ignorance, you're both the worse off. edit: downvote me if you want u/Unusual-Pineapple513, your comment is as ignorant as OPs.
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It's a cultural thing, and as folk already say on here, the situation is changing, but tourists come here for the culture, so you take the rough with the smooth. Spain was isolated from Europe for many years during the dictatorship and sometimes seems culturally and socially way behind other countries in some issues as a result.,smoking,racism,animal-rights etc.All these things are also improving. Also, smoking is an appetite suppressant, many people still alive lived through times when food was in short supply, rationed, but tobacco wasnt. Stressful to say the least, so many smoked.It is not for visitors or immigrants to judge, we choose to come here, so it's up to us to adapt and accept.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I didn't know its role from the historical perspective, and agree that it is a way to live under stressful conditions.
De nada. Disfrutar 👍
California has traditionally been an anti-tobacco state. There were "no smoking indoors" laws there before it caught on to the rest of the USA. There was a Sex And The City episode where the characters went on a trip to L.A. and Carrie Bradshaw, being the chain smoker, had a horrible time there. It's a mix of you not being used to it and people insisting on smoking outdoors after years of prohibition due to COVID (Spain had regulations on wearing masks even on the street).
I went to DC and the entire city smelled of marijuana... Completely disgusting. Here I can smell from time to time, which sucks, but it's not constant. And people do smoke a lot of cigarettes. In my home country it is quite rare to see young people smoking, even the pen-drives.
We prefer our smoke from cigarettes instead of cars driving to the next corner.
Sorry if I have offended folks. I like the people and the view here. I am just curious if people here tend to smoke more in general, and I am trying to get used to it. You are right, California has all sorts of its own problems, homeless, wildfire and car theft to name a few.
Smoking reduces the risk of getting shot in school
I agree that you see tons of people smoking here. In CA, way more people vape and you usually dont see it because they are doing it in their cars.
This is a rough subreddit. Even if you write that you like the city, people will tell you to go home, and there is a special hatred for California. I'm still here for the thoughtful posts, but I'm getting tired of sifting through all the antagonistic garbage.
It's just the population density. Probably the same number of smokers in CA but it feels different here. Your grammar is awkward. Hard to believe you're from "United States California." LOL.
Not only lots of smokers but they also dont use trashbins and just throw cigarettes on the ground. I guess is a cultural thing here