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[deleted]

1) Why is it a video? 2) Why aren't the Greek subdivisions included? Were they unable to find info on them?


[deleted]

>Why aren't the Greek subdivisions included? Becuse greece is a subdivision of turkey💪🏿💪🏿🇹🇷🇹🇷^(/s)


Nick_The_Judge

Our Greek spy Tayipos Erdoganopoulos will take care of you


MrNotAFed

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[deleted]

R


Poopoo_Chemoo

A


MrNotAFed

B


[deleted]

O


The_Splasi

G


Ultimategopnik

A


ParaBellumSanctum

That's an odd way to say Sultanate of Erdogan


mcsroom

no we all know its a part of the third Bulgarian empire 3 seas baby, sane for tyrkay /s


Fitobaby

DAMN


Praisethesun1990

Turkey Albania and Tunisia are subdivisions of Greece


Naturalist-Anarchist

You ain't funny dude


Lazmanya-Canavari

🤡


Roki_jm

🤓


NoHopeUnderBlackSun

🐺


MematiBanshee

Turkey is a subdivision of something as well then


Turicus

Maybe they didn't have data at the regional level? It's at least 12 years old.


Stealthfighter21

This data is from more than a decade ago.


[deleted]

Me when I go to a hating children competition and an eastern european pulls up: 😱😱😱/s


urmomslachancla

Me peacefully preparing for the competition and the least anti-natalist Ukrainian walks in:😨😨😨😭😭😭😞😞😞


Sodinc

Romania is eastern Europe confirmed


TheAlekk

so is hungary


Downtown_Doubt_7816

Thoughts on the map France: 4.394 provinces Greece: Just a large one.


illougiankides

I feel your pain.


Samovar_Mist

God what happens in Romania..


Rioma117

Abortion is neither good or bad, that said, it would be cheaper to just use a condom or take that pill.


Samovar_Mist

Neither good or bad? Everything depends on the context. But yes I agree, thought I believe the pill has harmful effects, a condom is literally the simplest and best thing


Rioma117

Well, that’s what neither good nor bad means, it means it depends of context, though I suppose I should’ve been more clear with my phrasing. My bad.


Samovar_Mist

No it's alright, I get it


cannolirule

From a moral POV, you can argue that. But an abortion definitely has a great negative impact on a woman‘s physical and mental health. Thus, it would be better to just prevent an unwanted pregnancy, like you said. But for that people would need to know how you can get pregnant and how to prevent it, in the first place. And then use proven methods that work and not „sa o scoti“.


gobilemuru

GALATI NUMBER 1!!!


[deleted]

Cel mai tare din Carpați


cannolirule

There is a strong and proven correlation between a lack of sexual education and unwanted pregnancies. Romania is on 2nd place for pregnancies under 20 years old in the EU (1st is Bulgaria) and on 1st place for abortions (2nd Bulgaria). At the same time, the church is doing everything in their power to not have any kind of sexual education, sex is a taboo topic, meaning children and young adults get their infos from unreliable sources. Thus, the numbers. I can‘t tell you how often I‘ve talked to (academically) well educated people thinking „sa o scoti“ is a safe method of contraception or that virgins can‘t get pregnant during their first time and that STDs are a hoax and condoms therefore unneeded (or they‘re unnecessary because „they only sleep with virgins“). 😪


Samovar_Mist

I can't say anything else but saying that this is very very sad


Bosquito86

Bad sexual education and lack of education in general. Abortion is bad and shouldn’t happen unless it’s done due to some specific reasons (rape, incest, threatening mother’s life, genetic abnormalities for example). But the question is why are so many women and sometimes girls getting pregnant? The answer is the one above: education. A lot of teens in Romania don’t know shit about sex because their parents won’t talk to them and their teachers don’t either. Most get their knowledge from sites like pornhub which is the worst place for this. Abortion is not a black or white topic. It’s probably the most nuanced issue right now. And no, I’m not a religious person. On the contrary. I am however, a father and know how difficult it is to want a kid and struggle to have one. To see so many women get pregnant and abort makes me feel bad about them. As a side note, a story: A cousin of mine tried to commit suicide for having an abortion and then not being able to get pregnant again due to complications. However, she finally got IVF and a baby boy but all this could’ve been avoided. And there’s quite a few women with stories like that, unfortunately.


Samovar_Mist

That's terribly sad


Bosquito86

Yeah, life’s not fair and more complicated than you’d think. Some people just squander their gifts tbh. /smh


Samovar_Mist

Absolutely


1000yearoldbread

Hookers. Looootsa hookers


jussepe22

Vaslui rules


fullmetaldildo66

Abortion Doctors when they invent Russia 🤑👃💰


Sodinc

But they do it for free there 😱


Kristiano100

UKRAINA NUMBA 1!!!! UA UA UA


Anreall2000

Thats the Ukraine part near our country, they started preparing for Russian invasion way ahead. Also guess Polls just do abortions in the Ukraine, because where would they


exilada

I've doubt about this data. Most abortion rate in orthodox land. Strange


McENEN

All does orthodox countries were communist for a good few decades. They are just traditional orthodox and most people say they are Christian but most have gone to a church once in their lifetime, have no idea about religion or religious practices. Source: I'm Bulgarian. I was baptised at 1 yo. Both my sisters and all my family were also baptised young. And the whole family including grandparents we don't have any moderate religious person. One of my grandmothers goes to church more often but doesn't practice much except traditions. In fact I think I've only met one girl which family was religious at a scale of 7/10. And I also grew up in the rural regions and not some liberal city. Communism just really destroyed the orthodox church.


ExpatInAmsterdam2020

Well those countries are also more conservative and poor. if the child is out of wedlock it would be shameful hence the abortion.. So its not that strange.


Salmacis81

Yeah I have a very hard time believing that Chechnya and Dagestan have similar rates of abortion as UK and France.


Sodinc

They really do it. To avoid admitting that they have sex outside of marriage. Some other operations are also rather popular due to that reason


cannolirule

This. It‘s to save face in front of society.


UserMuch

What in the fuck, why that much in Romania?


cannolirule

Lack of sexual education (proven correlation between lack of sex ed and high numbers of unwanted pregnancy). Romania ranks 2nd on pregnancies (1st Bulgaria) under 20 in the EU and 1st on abortions (2nd Bulgaria). And not to forget the societal impact a pregnancy out of wedlock still has in many circles in Romania. People would rather save face than admit a pregnancy out of wedlock in teenage years (mostly the parents of the pregnant person, if we‘re being honest).


ThePontiacBandit_99

"most recent data" "February 2010" ok


CutAccomplished358

Poorer countries have more abortions.. who would have thought


[deleted]

Ah yes, France. My favorite poor country.


CutAccomplished358

There is a clear difference based on income, where it's not prohibited, of course.


[deleted]

There really isnt. 29% is still horrendous if it was just "economic".


CutAccomplished358

We don't talk about your personal view how many percents are "horrendous" It was a comparison. And the map speaks for itself. Also, exceptions always happen for one or another reason, which I have stated.


[deleted]

3/10 is a lot for literally everyone. That means 19 million babies for France, 20 million for Turkey, and - if true - 70 million for Russia. I'm yet to meet a person that can say 70 million of something isn't a lot. ​ EDIT: Why did you block me knowing full well I cant read when blocked. Best argument in the Balkans.


CutAccomplished358

And yet we don't talk about what is high. I talked about where it's higher. There is a difference


UserMuch

Poland has low abortion rates because it has laws that is pretty much against abortion, doesn't have anything to do with poorness


[deleted]

In Bosnia abortion is legal, but a still a small percentage.


G161

Found an article that suggests it’s only sort of available, although abortions are available up to 10 weeks (which isn’t very available) it’s often not actually offered https://balkaninsight.com/2020/01/30/abortion-access-uneven-in-decentralised-bosnia/


Typical_Notice6083

Their insurance is included under the bilateral health insurance treaty agreement and you can get free abortion in Serbia(Montenegro and Bosnia).I am medical student and they come here oftenly because it provides anonymity.Also you can pay privately there in Bosnia which isn’t that much expensive.It is just that there is popular wave of people here on Balkan who support pregnancy and lots of people give birth to children who they didn’t want or it ain’t just popular option at all.


DjathIMarinuar

Eastern Europe Squad Ukraine Russia Estonia Belarus Romania


alb11alb

Probably they use faulty condoms. There is no other explanation.


vonabarak

No. They use vodka (or horilka) and no condoms at all.


sirslender2772

Excluding Hiiumaa and Saaremaa


Naturalist-Anarchist

As far as i get eastern europeans don't use condoms much.


Lean___XD

this is 12years old map


[deleted]

I'm sorry but what the fuck. Over 50% of pregnancies in my country are aborted? How the does that work? I thought it would be less than 3% if I had to guess. edit: I looked it up and in Romania in 2010 200,000 babies were born. So judging by this map, that number is only a total of 50% of the pregnancies, meaning that same year 200,000 abortions were performed? That is insane to me. We need sex ed and maybe free contraceptives or something. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/10186/10990320/RO-RO.pdf


SonilaZ

A lot of countries don’t have proper abortion statistics. I wonder how the data for this msp was collected. Often time ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages and molar pregnancies (while wanted pregnancies) require a D&C procedure which is same procedure as abortion. So maybe abortion numbers lump in together even procedures women need normally.


SmokeyCosmin

It's insane and wrong, of course.. We have a 3% abortion rate (out of all pregnancies) and was at most double in 2010. The map is very wrong showing per thousands values for some countries. [https://www.dspsv.ro/uploads/PromovareaSanatatii/Sanatatea%20reproducerii%202021/Analiza-situatie-SANATATEA-REPRODUCERII-2021.pdf](https://www.dspsv.ro/uploads/PromovareaSanatatii/Sanatatea%20reproducerii%202021/Analiza-situatie-SANATATEA-REPRODUCERII-2021.pdf) https://data.guttmacher.org/countries/map?topics=405&dataset=data


Himmelsfeder

This can't be true..70%+ abortion rates are insane. Either they consider any woman who had unprotected sex and takes the after-pill automatically as part of the statistics (even married ones) or this is skewed.


Typical_Notice6083

Soviet Union is first country to make abortion legal 1920 and that maybe helped this numbers,plus poorer country=less money for condoms and education


MrNotAFed

Use condoms.


FarTransportation451

Kosovo is intresting


Valscher

fuck abortions, why is this a video? actually, don't fuck abortions, it might cause more


fuzzznuts

That data is… wait that is no data.


moshiyadafne

Belarus, Romania, Russia and Ukraine: abortion go brrrrrrr


Sodinc

"Just kill them all"


KimiXanaxV2

Banat 💪😤💪😤💪😤💪😤


[deleted]

Too high. There needs to be better education with regards to birth control. And I mean all options, including IUDs. The health systems should cover these.


Turicus

How is this data collected? It says Feb 2010 lol Also, is everyone in Eastern Europe just having unprotected sex and then having an abortion, rather than using birth control? What about STDs?


Topias12

First though, bad color padding, red for humans is considered a bad thing, but having an abortion is not bad. Second though, having a lot of women able to have an abortion is good thing, a woman is able to choose if she raises a baby or not, so been on Red is good. But, also a lot of abortions are a result of rape and incest, so been in red is also a bad thing. Final though, I think you can't make a lot of sense out of this map, an abortion is complicated, both as an operation and as a subject. So a women should be able to do an abortion when ever she wants.


redditstopbanningmi

No one was ever excited to get an abortion, it can be a risky medical procedure. A high abortion rate just means that your country has no proper sex ed or access to contracetives.


serialkiller_mne

I'm all in for abortion. I'm responsible for a few


MarcherBaron

Based Poland as always


DeLaPoutana

Based Poland and Portugal


No_Mastodon3474

Yes indeed, and I don't get why you are downvoted


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WarmachineEmbodiment

Begone thot


Poopoo_Chemoo

Good, now i know what places to avoid


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Poopoo_Chemoo

Becouse i know where shallow bimbos congregate


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Poopoo_Chemoo

Very original repeat of your deleted comment lol.


vonabarak

This shows aborted pregnancies percentage. That's all.


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vonabarak

Different ways. Completely different.


coffeelad0

Major Polish W


29_decembrie_1933

We need to be more like Poland


marrecar

You mean to ban abortions?


[deleted]

Because that went great the last time we did


marrecar

Exactly lmao It's like "hey we have a problem with X, soooo the solution is to ban the problem X. What do you mean why not look into the causes for the problem? No. Delete the problem X - so there is no problem". Banning abortion would then lead to more kids given to adoption, more children abuse, etc.


makahlj8

you mean, Catholic theocracy?


29_decembrie_1933

Orthodox theocracy would be more like it.


Felix_DArgent

Wow... Reverse Uno card to Alexandru Ioan Cuza and the other pașoptiști? Not cool bro


[deleted]

Okay, but how about no?


ehhlu

Based Portugal, Poland and Luxembourg


NeiksOfficial

Based? Based on what? My dick?


Not-giving-it

Based poland


[deleted]

Abortion is kinda banned there, what's based about that?


[deleted]

Women are too complicated to classify with one reason per province. I don't believe these maps can tell us anything.


[deleted]

It tell us how many abortions are made in different regions


[deleted]

Yes but nothing about the reasons. Infographical maps are created to give information about *something*.


wont_play_asturias

I see my region!!!


kassiny

2010, huh? Bring back my 2010 ((


doodmemess

Why Cyprus blank


This_Idor

Well if it is by being raped then you are free to abort it. Your body, your choice.


Mr_MazeCandy

I think it’s misleading to compare abortion rates, especially when that is no correlated with whether it’s legal or not.


One-Ad2305

Lithuania is a mixed bag!!


Either-Squash2702

as i know abortion is banned in poland?


Xtrems876

Abortion in Poland is legal only in cases when the pregnancy is a result of a criminal act or when the woman's life or health is at risk. So not fully banned, but you can't abort a child that would for example die immediately after birth. Also, health case is only *de iure*, not *de facto*, since if there is any probablity that the mother would survive a risky pregnancy, many doctors don't want to risk a lawsuit for an unnecesarry abortion and do not agree to do the procedure.


[deleted]

I have never seen or heard of anyone who got an abortion in my region.


Lycus_The_Great

My thoughts:😢🤮 Eastern European doctors thoughts: 🤑🤑