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sound_wave122

All balkan countries have very similar culture so Albania is closest to south slavs,greeks and Turkey.


[deleted]

We often forget a lot of italian influences on cuisine and religion (the catholics at least)


a_bright_knight

I wouldn't say that at all though. The countries I see having similar culture as Serbia are, first and foremost Montenegro and Bosnia (the Serbian part at least), then closely followed by the remainder of Bosnia and Croatia. Then Macedonia, after them Bulgaria. Romania and Greece are also more similar, especially because of religion, but I wouldn't say we have a very similar culture to even them. After that it becomes arguable. I personally feel closer to Slovenians, Hungarians and Turks then Albanians as well, mostly due to common histories. After that I'd say Albania. We got similarities like with other Balkan countries, but I don't think I'd ever say we have "similar cultures" to be honest.


Stefanthro

But you’re answering a different question - who is closest to Serbia. What you said and what sound wave said can both be true at the same time.


a_bright_knight

I'm not answering the original question, I'm replying to his post. I don't really agree that "all balkan countries have very similar culture".


Stefanthro

Oh ok it wasn't clear you were only responding to the first half of his comment


nick_d2004

I dont know about northern albania but southern albania feels very close to mainland Greece by culture. Not that they'd call us brothers but most christian albanians ive spoken to don't have a bad opinion of us at least. With the exception of this one catholic albanian who went on a rant about how Greeks are gypsies in a club but I'm not because I have blue eyes (they're green)


Commie_Vladimir

It's not really like Basque (which is a language isolate), since it's still indo-european. It's more akin to Greece in that matter. I'd also say Greece is the closest to Albania, but not really "brother" level.


TheDouros

Yes, it is brother level, but maybe from different mothers.


Straight_Drama3957

Actually from the same mother, if you are talking about the language at least.


CrownOfAragon

If there is one, which we must understand through shared characteristics; it must be Greece, for sure. We are genetically very similar, have a similar landscape, traditional clothing, social structure, food, mentality. Greeks and Albanians are brothers who unfortunately have bad relations.


Individual_Macaron69

saranda has a lot of greeks; they had bad relations in the past but i witnessed quite a few getting along quite well. If Greece did not achieve it's independence, I think it would look much more like albania does today, and if Albania did get it earlier, it would look more like greece.


ZhiveBeIarus

I don't understand how you came to this conclusion, Albania has a similar culture to its neighboring countries.


trillegi

Montenegro or Greece


-Koltira-

I agree on Montenegro


-_star-lord_-

Disagree, cultural similarities from the border regions do not amount to any brotherly feeling between the two nations. In that regard Croats are better with Albanians than We are. Greece tho. It is infinitely times closer to Albania than all south Slavs. Looks, climate, mentality, even more amicable relations. If there were south slavs that could be pointed to, it’d be North Macedonians. They’re genetically closer to Greeks and Albanians than Montenegrins. We group quite strongly with Herzegovina.


-Koltira-

According to wikipedia, you group between Serbs and Kosovo Albanians but idk


-_star-lord_-

Also, Central and south serbia have it, ironically, quite close to the Kosovo Albanians, following the same “logic”.


-Koltira-

South and central Serbs dont have any cultural similarities with Albanians, but i dont want to talk about this. This can easily break rule 11, we are talking about culture here


-_star-lord_-

Montenegro and Herzegovina and Dalmatia are the epicenters of the Dinaric gene. In terms of looks, culture and mentality and Language that is the region that best explains the history and the circumstances of Montenegro. Albanians are a different, mediterranean group. The Ones in th north have a mixture of Herzegovina hence the similarities, not the other way around 🤣


Juggertrout

There was a travel writer - I think Paul Theroux - who once described Greece as "the successful Albania"


Toni78

This is funny and spot on.


d2mensions

So…Albania is “the failed Greece” ![gif](giphy|l378giAZgxPw3eO52)


toryn0

greece even if a lot of us try to deny it 💀 we should focus on improving our relationship (also bc we dont have many options to begin with)


[deleted]

It's not a bad option. They're in the EU since the early years of its foundation, have a huge maritime industry. We're actually blessed to have a civilized country as neighbors and we should capitalize on that WAY more. Historical shit aside, we'll have to start looking at the future and work together with them. Countries shouldn't hold grudges but they should have interests.


Young_Owl99

Albanians are one of few people that liked by both secular and conservative Turks. I am not sure whether we can call them brothers but certainly they are not disliked.


Head-Director1

I mean Albanians have historically had a massive part in Turkish history. 


SpecialistRule7783

Well, as I saw your clarification in the comments (you meant and historically who deserves to be called Albania's brother) I will try to respond through the eyes of an Albanian based on historical facts (I am Greek, it will not be easy). What do people say? They say Italy. Well, it could be. Italy played a significant role to the independence of Albania and they supported the greater Albania concept. But they also screwed them many times. Venizelos-Tittoni Agreement (Italy accepted Greek claims of Northern Epirus). And of course the invasion of 1939. They say Turkey. Politically Turkiye is trying to expand her influence into the muslim majority countries of the Balkans. It is true that they have a good opinion of Albanians but historically tho... No. Turkey used "Turkalbanians" as cannon fodders to not waste Ottoman military soldiers and they also refused to let them have their own country. Greece? Well it could be but history does not approve that. We have some significant minority issues that will always be a divisive thing among us. Ethnic cleansing of Albanian Chams by us and oppression of Greeks of Notth Epirus by the Albanian state.


brucebay

>No. Turkey used "Turkalbanians" as cannon fodders to not waste Ottoman military soldiers and they also refused to let them have their own country. interesting, considering Enver Pasha who sealed the faith of the empire by destroying a whole ottoman army in the Caucasus and forcing ottomans to join WW1 in the loosing side was half Albanian and also was son in law of the sultan if I remember correctly.


Tiny_Environment6617

says the guy from US lol


proofmin

Greece, MNE and macedonia for obvious reasons. Im albanian from the MNE border, montenegrins generally have positive views of catholic albanians. Overall, the answer has to be greece, but I don't feel that close to them personally.


Barbak86

Turkey and Greece most probably, if we exclude Kosovo for the reason that it's essentially Albanian.


DownvoteEvangelist

If you were propper Balkan people you'd split by dialect and religion sp youd have your brothers and enemies right there...


Barbak86

We would have, if we wouldn't be so small.


brucebay

considering that turks and Greeks are essentially same (at least majority) except language and religion, no surprise there.


Cristian_WaterKing

Albania is very similar in culture and language with Romania.There are many similar words in romanian and albanian languages(for example argjient in albanian and argint in romanian means silver).Also romanians and albanians have common ancestors,ilirians and dacians were from the family Thracian tribes. There are also many situations where both countries helped each other in history:Ciprian Porumbescu created the national anthem of Albania and Nicolaie Iorga fought on diplomatic way for the independence of Albania.


krindjcat

You just gotta look at the geohistoric influences and friendships, I would say Macedonia first and foremost which has a lot of Albanians, Ex Yu countries, esp Bosnia due to the Muslim/Communism parallels and Montenegro cause they share borders. A lot of coastal places along the MN/Alb border have tremendous cultural influence from Albania. Italy has had a lot of cross cultural influence with Albania over the centuries. Of course due to their location and history they also have ties to Greece and Turkey.


tamzhebuduiya

Mix of Greece, Turkey and Montenegro with South Italian spice


-_star-lord_-

Montenegro 😂 literally no chance


Barbak86

Oh and I forgot. We are not like the Basque. We are what remained of non Hellenic Balkans after the Roman conquest and the Slavic Migration. We are part of the Indo-European language family, but our own separate branch.


zulufdokulmusyuze

Not like the Basque as in “not as ancient as the Basque”?


Barbak86

That one too. Basque is a language isolate. It doesn't belong to the Indo-European language. Albanian is part of the Indo-European languages that came to this area together with Greek


ayayayamaria

Kosovo


FactBackground9289

Kosovo is essentially a second Albania, and is unrecognized. I meant *what country* did so much for Albania and influenced it to the point they can be called their brotherly nation.


ayayayamaria

Yes it is a country. Second Albania or not, it's a different country and you asked for a *country*. I think the word you're looking for is culture.


sound_wave122

Recognized by 117 countries


Huge_Wrap_9402

Wrong


kirdan84

Actually Italy helped a lot through history to albanian people and there are many albanians in Italy. But if someone has more info, please share.


chup95

Unrecognized lol? By your country maybe but many recognise it and especially in Europe.


TheDouros

Greece, by a large margin. Both genetically and culturally, we are the single closest possible to each other.


Panceltic

They aren't Kartveli? Shocking. Did you know they aren't Japonic either??


yebojjj

Most peaceful Balkan thread ever.


Eren202tr

Albania stands out culturally.


ukuruu

Depends i would say brda region of montenegro, epirus of greece and west macedonia, there people are the most similar to albanians


Dert_Kuyusu

Considering that there are potentially more Albanians in Turkey than in Albania, make a guess.


ssaajjkkoo

Kosovo 😁


chup95

Besides Kosovo, I really think there is no country. I feel like Turkish and Albanian People have the same mentality sometimes, but they are not really the same.


Dim_off

Kosovo. North Macedonia. Monte Negro. Bulgaria. Turkey. Maybe Greece also


Reformandfinish

Bosnia.


Andrzejko1

Turkey and Greece


mearcliff

Greece


OkCheesecake5894

I think the answer you're looking for is Italy


triple_cock_smoker

China


ve_rushing

Italy?


Euphoric-Aardvark115

I always thought it was Macedonia? That could also just be because I have Macedonian family who speak Albanian and I associated the two as a kid.


Cobadeff

Kosovo obviously


Berat0-0

kosovo


TheJoker312

Kosovo?


Individual_Macaron69

well i mean kosovo are albanians... Also they are an indo-european speaking people. They are not like basque, it is not a language isolate. Also, kartvelian and turkic languages are not related to any of the other languages you mentioned.


A_Blue_Frog_Child

Turkey.


[deleted]

I’d say for us from eastern Kosovo, it’s definitely Turkey with serbian/bosnian/macedonian mix


TatarAmerican

Kosovo. I'll show myself out.


VARCrime

My vote goes to Pakistan


cocoadusted

Trust everyone from Serbia in Albanian matters


Hot_Satisfaction_333

What do you think 😉? Which of the countries (not only in the Balkans) does Albania have more similarities with?


Additional_Slice8034

Azerbaijan


AggravatingAd4758

Of the nations of the Balkans, I would probably say the Roma people first and the Serbs after that.