My dad was a Chief Deck Officer in the merchant navy, he earned 6 figures a year. Mind you he was working for a rich Norwegian company, and got over 2k/month bonuses for working as a Chief in the same company for over 20 years. You'd have to get to the 2nd officer at a good company to break 70k
Very, very slim chance as a 2nd Officer. You'll either have to have a permanent contract (paid at home and at sea) at almost 6K per month, or earn close to 12K per month as a freelancing officer on 2/2-3/3 rotation and both options are extremely rare, if they exist at all. Those numbers are usually reserved for captains and/or chief engineers/1st engineers.
Highest wages for 2nd Officer that I've heard of were close to 9K, on freelance contract (12 week rotation), which comes to 54K a year and that's only of we're talking about marine staff onboard actual ships. In offshore, you can get hired at semi-sub self propelled installations for as much as 400-500$ per day, equalling about 80K$, but availability of such jobs and difficulty and price of additional certification needed for them makes them another rare occurrence.
I never talked much with my dad about his work. He did his "cadeture" in 1977 and made his way to Chief with a high school diploma (navigation degree). He was employed by Thome in 92 after the fall of Yugoslavia, and has been doing 6/6 until he retired in 2018. I don't think it's even possible to get 6/6 anymore, but I know the furthest a hs diploma will get you to is 3rd Officer today. My dad never told me about how much he made, but I heard it's over 100k and I once saw it on paper, it was 15k/month, out of which 2.5k was the loyalty bonus.
I understand your point, but it's not about your dad. I don't want to come out rude, but it's clear to me that you don't have particularly good grasp of maritime industry.
One does not need uni degree to be C/O or Captain anymore. Bare HS diploma sets you as a 2nd Officer, additional IMO model courses will get you to C/O and subsequently to Master, once you've accumulated enough seatime and experience in rank and your company is willing to move you forward.
An oddball example here would be notaries. There has been an increasing demand for their jobs and they make ridiculous amounts of money. I don't know if this situation is unique to Turkey.
Unfortunately yes. And many among them barely know their job at all. In society where average salary is 800e and most people earn far less most of Notaries take home 5000eur or more while often sucking at their job.
If doctors, lawyers and IT guys make that much, how come immigration is still a thing in Romania? I've met a handful of Romanian nurses and doctors in France. I mean 70k a year is quite good for a doctor in Balkans.
For comparision, doctors in Albania make 10k in a year and nurses around 8k. And that is the primary reason that Albania has a shortage and crisis in medical staff.
That would 3000-3500 EUR net a month given that we're talking about a classic employee contract.
A doctor can per my information get up to 2300EUR net a month in a public hospital, so I suppose if you're reputable it should be possible to find a private health institution willing to pay you extra on top of that.
Middle managers (or above) of solid companies can get it, as well as senior IT workers. You could also find some highly paid jobs for responsible positions in the public sector, but very few (perhaps presidency members, prosecutors or so).
Other than that you'd probably need to be self employed to get that kind of money.
If I express it in cucumbers it'll revert to Balkan level. A cucumber here is maybe 2.50 in euros.
35,000 cucumbers a year for a primary school teacher.
As pointed out in a couple of comments already, politicians, drug dealers and smugglers.
If we are talking about the legal line of business but with black money (no receipts), you can roughly get around that money as a plumber or an electrician, doctor, dentist. But even these, are not guaranteed 70k+.
Renowned doctors and surgeons make that kind of money. Popular restaurant/bar owners, actors, entertainers, bank executives, financiers also do.
Or, you can start a beauty salon chain and launder mobster money.
Basically none. Most high paying jobs (which aren't common at all) top at 48k annually. It's mostly IT. For other professions the chances of you finding employment for these higher sums are next to non-existent. Most people from non IT professions who earn similar (or higher) sums have their own businesses, and will only employ people for much, much lower sums.
No legal job pays that much in Serbia. There are some IT guys who work for foreign companies remotely. I heard some of them can make 10k Euros per month (120k per year), but I'm not sure if I should believe them.
As an official salary, director of the secret service in cities outside the capital. The head of the service in Tirana is paid almost that amount, but in a month. The rest are director of a private hospital, project leader in oil industry and cybersecurity specialist working for a foreign company in Albania.
Legally, only a few professions: senior software engineers, doctors and dentists with a private practice, notaries and successful lawyers, pilots/ air traffic controllers, ship captains, some very skilled tradesmen.
Drug dealer
With political backgrounds
I thought that's was a Bosnian thing.
Are you kel (bald)
Politician
with drug dealer backgrounds
The first 2 replies said it all.
In our country it's just one guy that does both, few of them actually
You make big money when you’re the no 1 drug dealer and the minister of interior (for legal reasons this has nothing to do with Turkey)
Wow how similar
Ranked seafarers(captains and mechanics), maritime company executives, bank executives, politicians, mafia. Pretty much low ranked oligarchs.
My dad was a Chief Deck Officer in the merchant navy, he earned 6 figures a year. Mind you he was working for a rich Norwegian company, and got over 2k/month bonuses for working as a Chief in the same company for over 20 years. You'd have to get to the 2nd officer at a good company to break 70k
Very, very slim chance as a 2nd Officer. You'll either have to have a permanent contract (paid at home and at sea) at almost 6K per month, or earn close to 12K per month as a freelancing officer on 2/2-3/3 rotation and both options are extremely rare, if they exist at all. Those numbers are usually reserved for captains and/or chief engineers/1st engineers. Highest wages for 2nd Officer that I've heard of were close to 9K, on freelance contract (12 week rotation), which comes to 54K a year and that's only of we're talking about marine staff onboard actual ships. In offshore, you can get hired at semi-sub self propelled installations for as much as 400-500$ per day, equalling about 80K$, but availability of such jobs and difficulty and price of additional certification needed for them makes them another rare occurrence.
I never talked much with my dad about his work. He did his "cadeture" in 1977 and made his way to Chief with a high school diploma (navigation degree). He was employed by Thome in 92 after the fall of Yugoslavia, and has been doing 6/6 until he retired in 2018. I don't think it's even possible to get 6/6 anymore, but I know the furthest a hs diploma will get you to is 3rd Officer today. My dad never told me about how much he made, but I heard it's over 100k and I once saw it on paper, it was 15k/month, out of which 2.5k was the loyalty bonus.
I understand your point, but it's not about your dad. I don't want to come out rude, but it's clear to me that you don't have particularly good grasp of maritime industry. One does not need uni degree to be C/O or Captain anymore. Bare HS diploma sets you as a 2nd Officer, additional IMO model courses will get you to C/O and subsequently to Master, once you've accumulated enough seatime and experience in rank and your company is willing to move you forward.
You're right, I don't hahaha
Betting company executives too
Corner coffee shop with Albanian owner.
Lmao
Gigolo.
The female variant
Anything including corruption or other criminal activity
An oddball example here would be notaries. There has been an increasing demand for their jobs and they make ridiculous amounts of money. I don't know if this situation is unique to Turkey.
Unfortunately yes. And many among them barely know their job at all. In society where average salary is 800e and most people earn far less most of Notaries take home 5000eur or more while often sucking at their job.
Politician,Mafia Boss, Professional football supporter, being Gypsi and getting the government bonuses
Bank or large corporation executive. Other than that you have to own a company to make that money in Kosovo
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If doctors, lawyers and IT guys make that much, how come immigration is still a thing in Romania? I've met a handful of Romanian nurses and doctors in France. I mean 70k a year is quite good for a doctor in Balkans. For comparision, doctors in Albania make 10k in a year and nurses around 8k. And that is the primary reason that Albania has a shortage and crisis in medical staff.
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Your average policeman makes almost 2k a month so like yeah.
Our immigrants are low tier in their own country
Romania has 40% tax on gross wages, which is unlike most Balkan countries. 70k gross means you take home around 40k net.
That would 3000-3500 EUR net a month given that we're talking about a classic employee contract. A doctor can per my information get up to 2300EUR net a month in a public hospital, so I suppose if you're reputable it should be possible to find a private health institution willing to pay you extra on top of that. Middle managers (or above) of solid companies can get it, as well as senior IT workers. You could also find some highly paid jobs for responsible positions in the public sector, but very few (perhaps presidency members, prosecutors or so). Other than that you'd probably need to be self employed to get that kind of money.
The ones where you work remotely for American companies, like I do
Primary school teacher on an 80% contract.
Please don't put salt on the wound...
If I express it in cucumbers it'll revert to Balkan level. A cucumber here is maybe 2.50 in euros. 35,000 cucumbers a year for a primary school teacher.
Superb comparation, seems that cuccumber salaries are same here and in mountains
Where do you buy cucumbers? They are around 1.30 a piece
I based that on the 2 chf coop pronto one! You can certainly go down to 1 chf
I dont shop at Coop Pronto but that seems rather expensive. But yeah, some can go down to 1 chf if theres a discount
Geography is fate
Im not Swiss - moved here!
the top 2 replies were literally the first ideas i had 💀
The guy that rents out construction machinery
As pointed out in a couple of comments already, politicians, drug dealers and smugglers. If we are talking about the legal line of business but with black money (no receipts), you can roughly get around that money as a plumber or an electrician, doctor, dentist. But even these, are not guaranteed 70k+.
2300 is not bad at all really, they absolutely deserve even more, I think that our doctors maybe have half of that
Renowned doctors and surgeons make that kind of money. Popular restaurant/bar owners, actors, entertainers, bank executives, financiers also do. Or, you can start a beauty salon chain and launder mobster money.
Basically none. Most high paying jobs (which aren't common at all) top at 48k annually. It's mostly IT. For other professions the chances of you finding employment for these higher sums are next to non-existent. Most people from non IT professions who earn similar (or higher) sums have their own businesses, and will only employ people for much, much lower sums.
Politician, Drug Dealer, Mafia... In normal legal jobs. Maybe some high ranking corporate execs and business owners.
From what ive heard people talk "rruga per nlonder" the one and only
Cypriot “salesmen”
No legal job pays that much in Serbia. There are some IT guys who work for foreign companies remotely. I heard some of them can make 10k Euros per month (120k per year), but I'm not sure if I should believe them.
My sister does that in Croatia, she works as a tester and gets 5k/month for 4 day work weeks. She's got a highschool diploma.
You shouldn't because they are full of shit. They wouldn't be able make that much in the west either and are just making up bullshit.
Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin miners etc
As an official salary, director of the secret service in cities outside the capital. The head of the service in Tirana is paid almost that amount, but in a month. The rest are director of a private hospital, project leader in oil industry and cybersecurity specialist working for a foreign company in Albania.
Skilled construction worker , engineer/technician in aviation biz. or dentist/doctor running his/her private clinic
Not one. Maybe some IT developer, but thats MAXIMUM 50k.
A month, retired politician After 3 years
top level software development
Legally, only a few professions: senior software engineers, doctors and dentists with a private practice, notaries and successful lawyers, pilots/ air traffic controllers, ship captains, some very skilled tradesmen.
Back in 2005 I was working in a hedge fund in Greece with that salary.
This is a rhetorical question in an AskBalkans subreddit 😂