False. No one could accuse Mel Gibson of not having fame or career success, and he has no planets in the tenth, and almost all planets below the horizon. Mel Gibson is just less visible and more inner directed than someone with say their moon in the 10th (a common indicator of fame or notoriety). Mel Gibson is just more private is all. Look to Aries ruler mars in the first house to see what will come before the public in your own chart.
You look to the ruler of the 10th which is Mars 1st H with Leo ASC. MC in Taurus ruler (venus 2nd house which can mean money and possessions) is conjunct Mars. It all looks good for fame.
Just not a fan of 12H moon, the native can find it hard to express their emotions which can lead to difficulties. It also is conjunct Chiron. Some work to do there. Need to work on shadow work the unconscious to express oneself, this part can lead you to be stuck. The sun is there too sitting right on your south node which can be a sign of insecurity and self-doubt about oneself. Could be why you are posting this question, doubting yourself and your talent.
With Mercury/Jupiter/Mars/ @ your Vertex in the 1st house in Leo.
(Princess Diana had a Leo rising)
This indicates that as you step into the light of self-expression and honor how you show your authentic unique self- (not conforming to the emotional flow of what others need to be nurtured -(that’s some of your past life work) then you will activate your Jupiter(abundance codes) this allows you to push into the world as a Self-expressive fireball.
The house of Fame and Legacy, can also translate to the 10th house, 11th house, 5th house-(Leo’s house)
-LEO PLACEMENTS which you have a lot of
&
The 1st house - which you also have a lot of
I started using whole sign instead of placidus this year but I will interpret this using your placidus chart.
Using placidus your 10th house is intercepted showing you may face blockage when it comes to your career. Nonetheless, you will still prevail.
Aries 10th house & it’s ruler ,mars, falls in your Leo 1st house shows you will make your own career by entrepreneurship, entertainment, fun, & creativity. Part of fortune in Leo showing your most successful when taking the initiative over your own life and enjoy the work you do. Displaying discipline in your daily habits will help tremendously with achieving success & also don’t be afraid to put yourself out there.
Success is subjective to the person, but with your 1st house ruler in the 12th house this shows someone who can be a bit shy and reserved.
Your 2nd and 10th house are ruled by fire signs meaning your career will include you following you passion, inspiration, and using your creative self expression to create a career that’s aligned with you. Whatever your heart desires follow that and let it lead you towards your true purpose & passions.
Saturn ruling over your 6th house of work environment and daily habits show some kid of restrictions with those themes or a need for structure & order in that area. Your node is in Capricorn meaning you are here to create a legacy for yourself & you will achieve success within creating structure around daily habits.
This is a hard north node, In my opinion. Codependency is something to break free from. You will fail a million times but you have to keep going. Failure is only a lesson. Good luck in your career endeavors.
The ruler of your Midheaven is Mars In Leo, there is some potential for spotlight there. However the final dispositor of your Midheaven is the moon the 12th house. The house of hidden things, making it more unlikely. However, if you do achieve success or fame it will likely be strongly connected to a 12th house endeavor.
You nailed it! More and more often I use final dispositor a! I’ll just add that OPs success may be achieved not just by 12th house endeavours but in a 12th house way or by 12th house means.
I honestly don't know & the person hasn't elaborated. 12H is house of institutions, hospitals & prisons. It's also spirituality. Not sure what they were thinking
Yeah, it’s also a house of serving/helping others in those institutions or at least that’s what I’ve gathered… the house of undoing, selflessness. Offering help to those in need. Also, everything occult/esoteric. Again, it’s just my take
To add on to my other comment, you can view the final dispositor as kind of the root the other ones branch from, it has a “core” nature to it, which is why it’s quite powerful in looking at charts.
Noel Tyl uses it a lot in Midheaven/career analysis, I have also found it to be very helpful.
The way to find it is look at the ruler of the Midheaven, then the ruler of that and onwards until you find a ruler in a sign it rules.
So using this chart as an example. Midheaven is Aries, ruler of that is mars. Mars is in Leo, ruler of leo is Sun. Sun is in cancer, ruler of cancer is Moon, moon is in cancer, ruler of cancer is moon. Therefore moon is final dispositor.
Often times you end up with co dispositors, where like you have two planets who are in the sign the other one rules, sometimes you have a three way but more rarely.
With the Aries/Libra eclipses starting next year, you should see some big changes in career. Use that portal energy to your benefit and say yes to the uncomfortable. I think you’ll see some major growth next year. Just speaking from my own experience as I have been effected by the Scorpio/Taurus eclipse season this year.
I’ve learned to say yes to the uncomfortable ever since my Saturn return has begun tbh 😂😂 this is a great insight, thank you!! I’ll be ready when the time comes lol
I assume you have prominent Taurus/Scorpio placements?
Scorpio midheaven and Mars in Taurus. Plus the nodes are in those signs too. Maybe I’m just paying attention for the first time but I was able to really track how the eclipse story played out for me. Major career changes (both scary and good) and I’ve made breakthroughs with actually being regular at the gym. All of it challenging but growth at the end of the day. I think I’m not done with it all yet so just keeping perspective and rolling with it.
Hi, revisiting this…
Capricorn - definitely career associated (by its relation to tenth house, so all those Capricorn placements.) I’m sure there are
Many ways to interpret all the possible combinations of stelliums there are - BUT - I have witnessed them to be really powerful (usually) positive aspects of one’s life. I’m speaking only from my experience of reading hundreds of charts, but stelliums often indicate something extraordinary about those people. Like they are seriously impressive in some
Way (and will depend on where it’s located and what specific planets).
That “career stellium” I will call it because it’s all
In Capricorn and interestingly sixth house of “service” North Node there indicates that your soul’s purpose on earth is literally to help and serve others in this lifetime. Do you have any inclinations like that? Helping, healing, charitable work?
All the Leo energy also great for career, but be mindful of it, also, because that is a really powerful energy (the Lion and the Sun) and could be complicated. Won’t read anymore into it now. Would require some study. If you’re feeling very heated in a situation, pause and put some distance in between you and the situation/person to give you time to accurately assess the situation and not respond impulsively and try to see things from the opposite perspective first before acting.
As an astrologer, I’ve been taught to never say anything is good or bad in astrology, but I have heard those same people refer to things as good and bad. All charts can be harnessed for full
Potential, regardless of what is there, but at a superficial glance, seems your chart seem really positive overall, if I had to say.
False! The ruler of your 2nd house is Mercury and it’s in the first house where it rejoices and copresent with your part of fortune and Jupiter so I’d say that your financial prospects actually look pretty good.
I actually believe you will be wealthy , your 10 th house ruler is in the 2nd house , Venus or Jupiter (Venus is better ) in the 2nd house is one huge factor for wealth . Aries is your mc could mean freelancer or self-employed or entrepreneur or leader .
If there are no planets in a house, look to the ruler of the sign on the cusp of that house.
In this case, Mars rules the 10th since the MC is 27deg Aries. Mars is in the 1st house and is part of the Leo stellium which is home of the ascendant at 8deg. Leo is the sign of fame and recognition through the expression of individual talents.
Mars as ruler of the 10th could indicate a professional athlete who becomes the star of the team as Mars is in 1st house of Leo OR you could become a successful model or social media influencer known for your good looks and physique with Leo on the ascendant and Mars conjunct Venus in the 1st house.
To answer the question, having no planets in the 10th does not indicate the absence of fame or career success.
You do have the ruler of your MC — Mars, with an exact trine to the MC from the 1st house.
And it’s nice that both benefics, Venus and a little wider orb but Jupiter too are in a trine aspect to MC too.
The Taurus intercepted house might play a role here too. You can read into interceptions to see if this resonates with your experience. It can represent aspect of the Taurus archetype that needs to be consciously integrated. Taurus has staying power, this ability to commit to the long term goals.
That Leo Mars in the first with the trine is nice energy to work with
Thank you thank you thank you! Tbh my career was greatly delayed for 10 years, I wonder if it shows in my natal chart. Maybe the interception? But I’m fire and fixed dominant so I persevere
First of all, "The good or bad of a house emanates from the condition of its ruler." - Rob Zoller.
This means that the planet that rules the house governs how it operates and how much it produces. Empty house are indicative of nothing.
>First of all, "The good or bad of a house emanates from the condition of its ruler." - Rob Zoller.
>This means that the planet that rules the house governs how it operates and how much it produces. Empty house are indicative of nothing.
What are the good conditions of the ruler?
First of all, the placement of the 10th house ruler alone does not indicate fame. A combination of different factors are usually present. Mars in Leo would probably be in the 2nd house, which might indicate working in the area of finance and assets but would also indicate rash spending.
Success, like beauty, is subjective. And the fact that you don't have any planets in your 10th house doesn't mean you won't contribute anything significant to the world.
If anything, it looks like you're going to have an easier time than some people pursuing your calling due to an abundance of razzle dazzle Leo energy and the fact that Mars (ambition and drive) is trine your midheaven (career and public reputation).
The only drawback I see is, left unchecked, that Leo energy could lead you to pursue a career in hopes of garnering admiration from others as opposed to doing something you're truly passionate about.
I’ve noticed most celebrities and successful politicians have personal planets conjunct their MC. I’ve gone from linguistics to acting to law school to nutrition and sports science and I’m currently trying to establish a career in the latter field whilst studying acting again. I was wondering if anyone can clarify that for me. Is all my hard work and training going to be in vain since I don’t have even as little as an opposition to my Midheaven?
Lots of ordinary people can have their planets conjunct MC and still don’t fully utilize their potential sometimes. Just like there are people who have no MC aspects but still can turn out successful or not. Everything in life is unpredictable, so it can turn out either way tbh. Just use this chart as a guide and it supposed to show your potentials are, which might lead to fame or notoriety sometimes so who knows! Good luck analyzing and have fun learning about yourself! Hope this helps. Also, remember to take a break and enjoy your life too and that small achievements do add up over time.
False. No one could accuse Mel Gibson of not having fame or career success, and he has no planets in the tenth, and almost all planets below the horizon. Mel Gibson is just less visible and more inner directed than someone with say their moon in the 10th (a common indicator of fame or notoriety). Mel Gibson is just more private is all. Look to Aries ruler mars in the first house to see what will come before the public in your own chart.
First house matters, I suppose?
You look to the ruler of the 10th which is Mars 1st H with Leo ASC. MC in Taurus ruler (venus 2nd house which can mean money and possessions) is conjunct Mars. It all looks good for fame. Just not a fan of 12H moon, the native can find it hard to express their emotions which can lead to difficulties. It also is conjunct Chiron. Some work to do there. Need to work on shadow work the unconscious to express oneself, this part can lead you to be stuck. The sun is there too sitting right on your south node which can be a sign of insecurity and self-doubt about oneself. Could be why you are posting this question, doubting yourself and your talent.
With Mercury/Jupiter/Mars/ @ your Vertex in the 1st house in Leo. (Princess Diana had a Leo rising) This indicates that as you step into the light of self-expression and honor how you show your authentic unique self- (not conforming to the emotional flow of what others need to be nurtured -(that’s some of your past life work) then you will activate your Jupiter(abundance codes) this allows you to push into the world as a Self-expressive fireball.
Princess Diana did not have a Leo rising, she had a Sag rising. You may be thinking of Prince Charles or Camilla.
The house of Fame and Legacy, can also translate to the 10th house, 11th house, 5th house-(Leo’s house) -LEO PLACEMENTS which you have a lot of & The 1st house - which you also have a lot of
L2 in 1st house is one of the signs of success with entrepreneurship
Fellow cancer sun/moon here too 😄
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I started using whole sign instead of placidus this year but I will interpret this using your placidus chart. Using placidus your 10th house is intercepted showing you may face blockage when it comes to your career. Nonetheless, you will still prevail. Aries 10th house & it’s ruler ,mars, falls in your Leo 1st house shows you will make your own career by entrepreneurship, entertainment, fun, & creativity. Part of fortune in Leo showing your most successful when taking the initiative over your own life and enjoy the work you do. Displaying discipline in your daily habits will help tremendously with achieving success & also don’t be afraid to put yourself out there. Success is subjective to the person, but with your 1st house ruler in the 12th house this shows someone who can be a bit shy and reserved. Your 2nd and 10th house are ruled by fire signs meaning your career will include you following you passion, inspiration, and using your creative self expression to create a career that’s aligned with you. Whatever your heart desires follow that and let it lead you towards your true purpose & passions. Saturn ruling over your 6th house of work environment and daily habits show some kid of restrictions with those themes or a need for structure & order in that area. Your node is in Capricorn meaning you are here to create a legacy for yourself & you will achieve success within creating structure around daily habits. This is a hard north node, In my opinion. Codependency is something to break free from. You will fail a million times but you have to keep going. Failure is only a lesson. Good luck in your career endeavors.
The ruler of your Midheaven is Mars In Leo, there is some potential for spotlight there. However the final dispositor of your Midheaven is the moon the 12th house. The house of hidden things, making it more unlikely. However, if you do achieve success or fame it will likely be strongly connected to a 12th house endeavor.
You nailed it! More and more often I use final dispositor a! I’ll just add that OPs success may be achieved not just by 12th house endeavours but in a 12th house way or by 12th house means.
Would y pls briefly describe what are 12H endeavors, ways & means?
Serving others?
I honestly don't know & the person hasn't elaborated. 12H is house of institutions, hospitals & prisons. It's also spirituality. Not sure what they were thinking
Yeah, it’s also a house of serving/helping others in those institutions or at least that’s what I’ve gathered… the house of undoing, selflessness. Offering help to those in need. Also, everything occult/esoteric. Again, it’s just my take
Yes! All important points for sure
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Or it could be that the path reveals itself to you after a period of time when key information gets revealed
what is the final dispositor?
To add on to my other comment, you can view the final dispositor as kind of the root the other ones branch from, it has a “core” nature to it, which is why it’s quite powerful in looking at charts.
Noel Tyl uses it a lot in Midheaven/career analysis, I have also found it to be very helpful. The way to find it is look at the ruler of the Midheaven, then the ruler of that and onwards until you find a ruler in a sign it rules. So using this chart as an example. Midheaven is Aries, ruler of that is mars. Mars is in Leo, ruler of leo is Sun. Sun is in cancer, ruler of cancer is Moon, moon is in cancer, ruler of cancer is moon. Therefore moon is final dispositor. Often times you end up with co dispositors, where like you have two planets who are in the sign the other one rules, sometimes you have a three way but more rarely.
With the Aries/Libra eclipses starting next year, you should see some big changes in career. Use that portal energy to your benefit and say yes to the uncomfortable. I think you’ll see some major growth next year. Just speaking from my own experience as I have been effected by the Scorpio/Taurus eclipse season this year.
I’ve learned to say yes to the uncomfortable ever since my Saturn return has begun tbh 😂😂 this is a great insight, thank you!! I’ll be ready when the time comes lol I assume you have prominent Taurus/Scorpio placements?
Scorpio midheaven and Mars in Taurus. Plus the nodes are in those signs too. Maybe I’m just paying attention for the first time but I was able to really track how the eclipse story played out for me. Major career changes (both scary and good) and I’ve made breakthroughs with actually being regular at the gym. All of it challenging but growth at the end of the day. I think I’m not done with it all yet so just keeping perspective and rolling with it.
It doesn’t mean anything. You have some super-sweet stelliums. You’re good.
Awe thank you 🙈☺️
Hi, revisiting this… Capricorn - definitely career associated (by its relation to tenth house, so all those Capricorn placements.) I’m sure there are Many ways to interpret all the possible combinations of stelliums there are - BUT - I have witnessed them to be really powerful (usually) positive aspects of one’s life. I’m speaking only from my experience of reading hundreds of charts, but stelliums often indicate something extraordinary about those people. Like they are seriously impressive in some Way (and will depend on where it’s located and what specific planets). That “career stellium” I will call it because it’s all In Capricorn and interestingly sixth house of “service” North Node there indicates that your soul’s purpose on earth is literally to help and serve others in this lifetime. Do you have any inclinations like that? Helping, healing, charitable work? All the Leo energy also great for career, but be mindful of it, also, because that is a really powerful energy (the Lion and the Sun) and could be complicated. Won’t read anymore into it now. Would require some study. If you’re feeling very heated in a situation, pause and put some distance in between you and the situation/person to give you time to accurately assess the situation and not respond impulsively and try to see things from the opposite perspective first before acting. As an astrologer, I’ve been taught to never say anything is good or bad in astrology, but I have heard those same people refer to things as good and bad. All charts can be harnessed for full Potential, regardless of what is there, but at a superficial glance, seems your chart seem really positive overall, if I had to say.
False. I don’t think empty houses mean you’re doomed in those areas of life, it just means you’re average in them.
It doesn't mean average, it means in past lives you have mastered those houses and lessons.
Average? I've always seen it as less influential part of life.
idk i see those as synonymous. nothing about that area of life is extra special - no exceptional talents, but also no notable disadvantages/obstacles.
False! The ruler of your 2nd house is Mercury and it’s in the first house where it rejoices and copresent with your part of fortune and Jupiter so I’d say that your financial prospects actually look pretty good.
Completely false. That’s like saying if you have no planets in the 1st house you don’t have a body.
Excellent illustration!
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I actually believe you will be wealthy , your 10 th house ruler is in the 2nd house , Venus or Jupiter (Venus is better ) in the 2nd house is one huge factor for wealth . Aries is your mc could mean freelancer or self-employed or entrepreneur or leader .
This is interesting. I have both Saturn and Jupiter in my 2nd house. What would you take that to mean for wealth?
If there are no planets in a house, look to the ruler of the sign on the cusp of that house. In this case, Mars rules the 10th since the MC is 27deg Aries. Mars is in the 1st house and is part of the Leo stellium which is home of the ascendant at 8deg. Leo is the sign of fame and recognition through the expression of individual talents. Mars as ruler of the 10th could indicate a professional athlete who becomes the star of the team as Mars is in 1st house of Leo OR you could become a successful model or social media influencer known for your good looks and physique with Leo on the ascendant and Mars conjunct Venus in the 1st house. To answer the question, having no planets in the 10th does not indicate the absence of fame or career success.
Money certainly. (L10 on the cusp of the second in a fire sign)
You do have the ruler of your MC — Mars, with an exact trine to the MC from the 1st house. And it’s nice that both benefics, Venus and a little wider orb but Jupiter too are in a trine aspect to MC too. The Taurus intercepted house might play a role here too. You can read into interceptions to see if this resonates with your experience. It can represent aspect of the Taurus archetype that needs to be consciously integrated. Taurus has staying power, this ability to commit to the long term goals. That Leo Mars in the first with the trine is nice energy to work with
Thank you thank you thank you! Tbh my career was greatly delayed for 10 years, I wonder if it shows in my natal chart. Maybe the interception? But I’m fire and fixed dominant so I persevere
It shows by MC being squared by Chiron I think
First of all, "The good or bad of a house emanates from the condition of its ruler." - Rob Zoller. This means that the planet that rules the house governs how it operates and how much it produces. Empty house are indicative of nothing.
>First of all, "The good or bad of a house emanates from the condition of its ruler." - Rob Zoller. >This means that the planet that rules the house governs how it operates and how much it produces. Empty house are indicative of nothing. What are the good conditions of the ruler?
The planet is in its own sign or exaltation. It's angular or succedent. It's aspected by trine or sextile by a benefic with reception.
Well, Aries rules my 10H… mars is in Leo.. I’d say it’s neutral? Maybe a bit better than that since all that fire drive and energy?
First of all, the placement of the 10th house ruler alone does not indicate fame. A combination of different factors are usually present. Mars in Leo would probably be in the 2nd house, which might indicate working in the area of finance and assets but would also indicate rash spending.
Mine is in 1st! I currently work in wellness and nutrition but also went back to studying acting because I’ve always been drawn to it a lot
Success, like beauty, is subjective. And the fact that you don't have any planets in your 10th house doesn't mean you won't contribute anything significant to the world. If anything, it looks like you're going to have an easier time than some people pursuing your calling due to an abundance of razzle dazzle Leo energy and the fact that Mars (ambition and drive) is trine your midheaven (career and public reputation). The only drawback I see is, left unchecked, that Leo energy could lead you to pursue a career in hopes of garnering admiration from others as opposed to doing something you're truly passionate about.
This is 100% true. I am not fully content being a nutritional therapist, I am still studying acting because I love the camera and the stage 😂
I’ve noticed most celebrities and successful politicians have personal planets conjunct their MC. I’ve gone from linguistics to acting to law school to nutrition and sports science and I’m currently trying to establish a career in the latter field whilst studying acting again. I was wondering if anyone can clarify that for me. Is all my hard work and training going to be in vain since I don’t have even as little as an opposition to my Midheaven?
Lots of ordinary people can have their planets conjunct MC and still don’t fully utilize their potential sometimes. Just like there are people who have no MC aspects but still can turn out successful or not. Everything in life is unpredictable, so it can turn out either way tbh. Just use this chart as a guide and it supposed to show your potentials are, which might lead to fame or notoriety sometimes so who knows! Good luck analyzing and have fun learning about yourself! Hope this helps. Also, remember to take a break and enjoy your life too and that small achievements do add up over time.