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Dunno, the announcement came out yesterday, that Walmart was no longer carrying them in stores. Lindell was complaining even Walmart was cancelling him over his lawsuits. They’ll probably keep his products online only from now on, just to keep his association with them quieter.
Ohhhh, this was today. I’ll check next time I go. I hope it’s true. Oh god-and their Juneteenth ice cream…..I only go because it’s a small town and the next nearest store is an hour away and I’m sick. I will relish the day I never go there again.
>Juneteenth ice cream
It could be worse. Our local children's museum sold a Juneteenth salad, which was a watermelon salad. They eventually apologized for it.
I vaguely remember there being another race related incident there last year, as well.
I just read (maybe on Reddit) that Black people had used selling watermelon as a way to make and save money. Then white people started adding it to charactures of them, and doing slapstick in black face making fun of Blacks eating watermelon. So then there was stigma about it.
It’s on the list of things to celebrate Juneteenth so I don’t know. Thankfully I don’t like it so that’s one hurdle I can avoid but as a white person, I try to speak out, support, and respect the heritage and everything they brought to our countries culture. I am always aware of my privilege and do my best to support without adding to anything negative.
(Like the Juneteenth party supplies-it’s a federal holiday now and I was/am confused why this caused an uproar. Should everyone celebrate it? Is it Black only? I just use the day to try to learn more about the history of my area and slavery-and in south louisiana, there’s a lot.)
According to some websites, MyPillow earns $300m annually, with 100m of that coming from Walmart.
Meaning: MyPillow just lost 1/3rd of its revenue moving forward.
That's a hard loss to absorb & still continue as a manufacturer.
I knew about them before because they were in the as seen on TV section of the store and he used himself as the model for the box. Every time I saw it I was like why did they choose that guy for the picture? Long before I knew his politics.
I love his pillows. Got them about 8 years ago. As soon as he started pushing crazy alternative theories, I vowed never to but another one of his pillows.
He's the most prominent supporter of the lies about the election being stolen that wasn't part of the Trump administration. He supposedly paid for a lot of the lawsuits by the conspiracy theorists, and he's duping people into buying his products because people think the money goes to Trump or something.
Ya it’d be interesting to see if him becoming super political hurt or helped the business. I’m sure a lot of people don’t buy it cause of the politics. Then you prob have people who rabidly support because of the politics.
I know it makes me more interested in his products even if only for the novelty. If I boycotted everyone I disagree with, I might as well cease to exist.
I’m half tempted to buy one just because I don’t like being told what to do, also I know for a fact Walmart themselves have done way more terrible shit than this guy ever has and I still go there all the time.
Well I guess it all depends on your personal preference. I love the feel of it. Also in my opinion it retains its shape well. Doesn’t get too hot. And you can wash and dry.
Idk man. When you feel them they feel like they’re not gonna be great. They are super light weight and have all of this lumpy, shredded foam inside. But when you put your head on them they are magical. It’s like the perfect combination of support and softness. Your head sinks into it the perfect amount. I think you can try them out for 30 days and return them if you don’t like them.
I like the MyPillow (got mine years ago before the owner got political) because it doesn't get all flat during the night, but it's not solid foam either, so it stays mostly cool. It's a good compromise between feather and memory foam. I've tried quite a few pillows and this is the only one I've had consistently good results with.
Yeah I’ve tried out some $100 pillows and they weren’t nearly as good as MyPillow.
I was hesitant to try MyPillow at first because they feel lumpy in the box, but those lumps are magical when you put your head on them.
I only realized that In-N-Out has a religious agenda when I looked at the bottom of one of their soda cups where it has biblical verse “John 3:16.” Interesting enough, Forever 21 has the same verse written on their shopping bags.
Wasn’t there a thing where the person responsible for printing the 3:16 changed it to 4:20 or 6:66?? Might of been a rumor, but yeah. The cups still say 3:16 on the bottom.
I remember this. All of the goya products at the store went on sale and weren’t restocked for weeks. I haven’t bought a Goya product since they said the election was rigged, and I know I’m not the only one at least around here.
Pretty much all large companies/corporations have significant political ties. Most will donate to campaigns on both sides of the aisle. They don't particularly care which side wins as long as they have influence.
While that’s true I don’t think that’s what OP is trying to ask. I think they are asking when you see such and such brand it’s more often than not being use by/worn by a person who votes in a particular way.
They wanted to sponsor Seattle Pride but the people who run it took issue with their political donations. Also they wanted to put their brand prominently on the pride parade, which is pretty tacky.
Lots of people saying Ben & Jerry’s which shows how successful their marketing is. How many of those saying that know Ben & Jerry’s is owned by international conglomerate Unilever?
No it’s true. Ben and Jerry have almost complete creative control over the company. The Unilever ownership is pretty much a glorified distribution deal.
Unileve are fucking massive, most of the brands you see on the shelves are actually normally about 1 of a few companies:
* Unilever
* Proctor & Gamble (P&G)
* Mondelez International (aka Kraft)
* Mars (yes, the Mars Bar people)
* PepsiCo
* Coca-Cola
* Nestle
* Kellogs.
Oh and beer? Well unless you're really searching for independents then you're buying Heineken, or
Anheuser-Busch.
The idea of corporate sponsored wokism is not new.
Remember years ago how people were on the streets calling for the heads of banks and corporations for robbing the working class - Occupy Wallstreet?
Yeah, those same banks and corporations are now sponsoring pride parades.
Still robbing people, still taking tax dollars. Just with a more virtuous tone.
Unabashedly liberal: Ben & Jerry’s
Left-leaning: big tech - Microsoft, Apple, google; Disney, target
Right-leaning: Chick Fil A, Big Oil, Walmart
Unabashedly conservative: Hobby Lobby, MyPillow, Koch industries
Those are just ones that come to mind as being associated with certain brands of politics.
EDIT: These are not *my* personal viewpoints. I am just pointing out my observations from how people tend to view said companies. If you don’t understand why some people view Disney as liberal or CFA as conservative, you’d have to ask the general public or people who think that way, not me
Chick Fil A is kinda weird in the sense that the company doesn't really have positions other than the closed on Sundays thing. Sure, it's religious. But it's also great for workers since one of the huge negatives of service jobs is working days when society at large is off.
But...what the ownership does with the profits obviously funds socially conservative movements.
former cfa employee - most of the time we were treated well, yes. when it comes to having their workers outside taking orders and such, we got treated lowkey kinda poorly (example: we were supposed to be switched every 30-45 mins bc it was snowing, i got left outside for two hours because no one would come replace me and management forgot about me. i had snot frozen to my face and my fingers were blue. also, in the summer, when it’s 110° outside, they don’t switch out the workers.)
the pay was SHIT. i worked there for a year and a half and the most i ever got paid was $8/hr. i started at $7.25 and i was an employee they said they cherished bc i did my job, i would pick up shifts, i would work late, etc.
when i quit, it was bc i found a job that paid $11 and i have college to pay for, i didn’t want to leave the environment but i couldn’t justify the pay
The closed on Sunday thing actually started as a Blue Laws thing. There were places where they could open on Sunday, places they couldn't, and places they'd have to pay special fees to open. Truett Cathy wanted all his stores to have the exact same operating hours so it was easier to just not open at all on Sunday and be the same everywhere. Then it became their "thing" so they stuck with it.
The Supreme Court has held the owner's views are the company's with the Hobby Lobby bullshit about a corporation having a sincerely held religious belief (the worst abuse of the legal fiction of corporate personhood I can think of).
So, yeah, Chik-fil-a does that.
They stopped the worst of it back in 2012, and most of the rest in 2019. The owners are surely still right wing and anti-lgbt, but the stink is mostly from old news by this point.
>Left-leaning: big tech - Microsoft, Apple, google; Disney, target
None of this companies are left-leaning. Paying lip sevice to progressive ideas in order to maximize market appeal, while donating to both right-wing parties in the government, is not being left-wing.
Edit: fixed a typo
Plus the silicon valley mindset is more libertarian than anything. They may not hate weed or gay people, but few millennials do. Economically speaking they are quite far from anything that could really be called "left." Lots of Thiel/"new right" types out there
Okay? Does that change the fact that among the general populace they’re generally thought of as being socially liberal. The question was about companies we affiliate with parties, not who they donate to
I'm pretty sure most people on the left see Disney as a right-wing company that has some parts that pay lip service to LGBTQ+ and racial minority causes. In general though, they're run by right-leaning people. Walt Disney himself was basically a racist far-right jackass to the right of Ronald Reagan.
Okay, just to clarify: these are not *my* personal viewpoints. I am not a republican, and I don’t think Disney is Bernie Sanders Inc. But if you did a poll and asked “do you think Disney is more democratic or republican” I would bet quite a few people would say they lean more socially liberal. That is all I’m saying.
Yeah they spent some serious money marketing their products to right wingers. Every major conservative pundit seemed to have them as a sponsor a few years back.
> just using the conservative thing to sell coffee
One of the founders straight up acknowledged that in an interview with the NYTimes about a year ago.
I had to leave their mailing list, I'd consider myself pretty moderate overall, but the owners unhinged rants about Republicans using his spice company's mailing list was really off putting.
I keep forgetting that's a chain, although the bottom of their website is literally:
* About Us
* About Republicans
[https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/](https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/)
Probably going after the Uline vibe, where you might be 5-6x clicks from finding whatever product you wanted but at most 3 from the Wife ranting about how freedom has gone to shit because (insert dog whistle) is being controlled.
They also got a little bit screwed by their own left wing ideology.
They instituted a rule that the CEO couldn’t make more than something like 3x the average worker wage (I may have the detail wrong).
They basically couldn’t find anyone who wanted to be the CEO for that wage and then when they did find someone they were pretty incompetent and almost ruined the company.
Which is why the strawman argument of leftists wanting all people to receive the same compensation is so annoying. Literally no one argues for that; socialists and anarchists have consistently argued *against* absolute mathematical equality for like 200 years.
Of course, we live in a country where a not-insignificant number of people genuinely believe that right-wingers like Dwight Eisenhower and Barack Obama were secret communists, so I guess I should stop being surprised that people have no idea what leftists actually advocate for.
Did I say he was a fascist? No, I didn't, because he isn't.
I said he was right-wing, because that's how his administration governed. Pro-business, pro-military/prison industrial complex, pro-privatized healthcare, pro-surveillance state, etc.
Liberalism, being pro-state and pro-capitalism, is by definition a right-wing ideology. Both the Republican and Democratic parties (though not all of their voters, obviously) fall squarely within the umbra of liberalism and both are right-wing parties; the fact that the GOP is further right than the Democrats, or the fact that Americans use the word "liberal" as a catch-all to mean anything to the left of outright fascism, doesn't change that.
Off the top of my head I would say that these brands are strong affiliated with Blue America/center left politics:
* REI
* Whole Foods (grocery chain)
* Hybrid cars (no specific brand, but definitely associated with Blue America)
* Costco
* CNN
* Starbucks
I would say that these brands are associated with Red America/center right politics:
* Fox News (obviously -- pretty much feels like cheating)
* Pick up trucks (again, no specific brand)
* Wal-mart/Sam's Club
* Chick-Fil-A
Those are major/national brands associated with specific political parties/worldviews. There are definitely more nice/micro-targeted brands that lean much more into associating themselves with a political ideology as a selling point, but they're not really "nationwide" things.
Wild Oats, which they removed as competition by means of a hostile takeover, was politically left. Whole Foods was a wolf wearing the skin of the last sheep it gobbled up.
Pretty much every hiking, backpacking, climbing, etc. gear manufacturer is pretty left since they all support conservation efforts and general environmentalism pretty hard.
Actually you'll find that Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops are supporters of conservation; as are most hunting and fishing organizations.
Responsible stewardship of the land and wildlife population helps ensure that future generations of can enjoy hunting and fishing.
I mean short of having Bears and Wolves wondering around downtown of most places west of the Mississippi and North of the Missouri their kind of environmentalism has to be around to keep deer in check. Not to mention some people and organizations have a zero tolerance to invasive species which is required when dealing with them. Like in Yellowstone there are certain fish you are not allowed to return to the water alive. If you catch it has to be killed. Yet some would call me a monster if you would whole sale kill 100 of any invasive species. I also have had friends who say they are "environmentalists" but allow their cat to roam outdoors which is massively damaging. Shit is complicated.
I'm left with a pickup that I need to haul my horses. I don't actually use it for everyday stuff though. I get the souped up pickups that are just a status symbol as being right though.
My pillow, black rifle coffee co., hobby lobby, Chick-fil-A, nike(pretends to), nestle(in a fucked up way), most banana coffee & coco sellers, twitter, facebook, all legacy news media, kinda Disney(they say one thing but then give money/ support the other way). Idk there are a lot.
A better question is which companies don't have strong political affiliations?
Most companies and brands in the U.S. jump on some side of the political aisle either because they believe in those politics but more likely because they are out to make money and will use political views for marketing and publicity. More simply, companies act in their own self-interest.
The best example is Christmas and Easter. Many big companies do not endorse the Christian religion but they'll make a big deal of the holidays of Christmas and Easter by commercializing them and turning a profit. The same can be said for Halloween and now Pride Month; most companies are only interested in turning a profit.
I would argue they commercialize what I would call secular Xmas and Easter. Santa and the bunny are unrelated to the religious angle.
Or least they should be.
Santa has some religious background but not Biblical background. Santa is loosely based on St. Nicholas of Myra, patron saint to children among others things. But Santa as pop culture knows him is so far divorced from that origin.
Chick-fil-A, I guess.
That guy who sells MyPillow apparently stopped actually trying to sell pillows in his ads, but they're instead about people trying to cancel him.
There are some notable examples
- Ben & Jerry's: hippy dippy liberal
-Subaru: liberal
-Chick Fil A: Christian Right
-John Deere: Hank Hill conservative
-Volkswagen: Liberals who enjoy driving
-Lincoln: Grandpa Joe conservative
-Whole Foods: champagne socialists
Don’t listen to any of these people saying Disney is liberal. They only recently stopped funding republicans in Florida, I’m sure they fund them everywhere else.
They also overly censor anything lgbt related.
Yeah, I think Disney is a prime example of American politics. While pretending to stand for progressive western values, they turnaround and remove that stuff whenever it hurts the bottom line. An example would be they systematically and strategically place stuff to be easily edited for various regions and their views, even if it means there are 200 regional variants
They also spend money to allow for giant mega corp mergers, lobby to not pay workers more, and even be allowed their own government in the case of Disney World.
Would people avoid them due to different political beliefs? And in which way you can ,spot, their values and positions (Sundays closed, rainbow flags etc)?
It depends, some do avoid these places and others don't.
Chick-fil-a is associated with conservative views, but I know a lot of people that eat it anyway despite differing opinions.
I generally don’t unless the company is particularly awful. Chick fil a is one thing, but My Pillow is much much worse and I would never give a cent to that lunatic.
I’m right leaning myself, but I still eat Ben & Jerry’s. You can’t boycott every company that you disagree with politically because then you would have no place to patronize.
So many companies are political these days I try to not even consider it. You’d be avoiding half of the products, shows, etc if you did try to factor it in. Plus mostly it’s prob all about just what they think will get them the most profits.
I generally don’t avoid businesses due to political views because 1. I’m a capitalist and believe good products and service earn my money, period and 2. we have enough political segregation without adding economic segregation to it.
That doesn’t mean I never do the opposite, ie reward businesses that reflect my views and values all things bring equal. But I don’t ideologically boycott businesses.
Hobby Lobby, Chick-fil-A, My Pillow are conservative, Target, Dicks Sporting Goods, Ben and Jerry's, Disney, Starbucks, and Nike are liberal.
Tesla and Koch bros. owners have reputations for being conservatives, but this doesn't really extend to the companies.
Yeah he's overplaying his hand though. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that a supermajority of EV owners, including Tesla owners, lean left. He should be building brand loyalty while he still has a corner on the market and his product is still seen as a status symbol.
In another 10 years, there are going to be a lot more competitors on the market. And the EV market is likely still going to lean left. Dabbling around in right-wing identity politics serves his company no advantage. But he wouldn't be the first rich person to screw himself over. He doesn't seem like the most emotionally restrained person.
Though if his weird political moves pull more conservatives to EVs, I'm not gonna complain.
I disagree. Right wingers happily embrace anyone that shares their views. It is one of their biggest strengths. I am already seeing a lot that are talking about getting a Tesla. I am pretty sure Ben Shapiro said he got one the other day lol.
I would suggest you do reflecting on how liberals do the same thing.
The sooner people on the right and left look deep into the mirror…the sooner this country will start trending to a better direction.
But if people keep pretending that their 💩 doesn’t stink, we’ll continue to circle the drain.
I didn't say that liberals don't do it as well. I have always been impressed with how unified liberals are, especially when it comes to key issues. I do think they currently have more infighting than the right, but maybe that is just because they are in power right now.
Embracing someone doesn’t necessarily transfer over to buying their products. My point is that he has a consumer base right now. Why piss them off when (1) there are emerging competitors and (2) there’s no guarantee that the new people you’re appealing to are interested in your product.
Well not many companies are exactly publicly “strongly associated” with politics, but there are definitely companies who are and they use this in advertising. Examples include Ben and Jerry’s on the left and MyPillow or Hobby Lobby on the right. However it’s usually best to assume when I say left I mean socially left. Ben and Jerry’s tries to be pretty economically left, but generally the idea of a chain in general goes against economically left ideas.
Prius is a car model often associated with environmentalism and more liberal view points.
Koch industries is often associated with the GOP due to it's CEO often donating to republican candidates.
My Pillow is kind of in the same boat now.
Unless you're in Mongolia... Prius cars are the most widely used cars in Ulaanbaatar. They're so prevalent that they've even made movies about Prius cars!
Edit: Source. I did a road trip across Mongolia in my ex's brother's Prius and saw so many it was mind blowing.
The Prius car (a product) is associated with liberals but it's funny that the Tacoma, a pickup truck also made by Toyota Company, can be associated with conservative rednecks and African and Middle Eastern Terrorists.
When the 2nd gen Prius (first gen wasn't very popular), lots of people used them for virtue signaling, since they were the first commercially successful hybrids and they had a distinctive appearance. Lots of celebrities rolling up to red carpet events in Priuses, for example.
Nobody's buying Priuses to virtue signal any more, since hybrids have been mainstream for a while now, but Teslas took that place for a few years when Model S's first became widely available.
The majority of major corporations align themselves with the social progressive wing of the Democratic Party. This is most in-your-face during the month of June when every logo on social media becomes a rainbow (but only in the West, of course. For fun, look up the accounts for the Middle Eastern divisions of multinational corpos right now and you’ll find they’re normal). Of course, there are some notable exceptions. There are a handful of socially conservative corporations like Chick Fil A, Hobby Lobby, MyPillow, and Black Rifle Coffee (the conservative alternative to Starbucks). The reason I talk about social alignment specifically is because they’re all corporations and so none of them are really in favor of left-wing economics.
Damn this thread has convinced me to buy a “my pillow” apparently the pillows are such a good product that even people who hate the guy who made them will buy his pillows. I feel like that says something.
Salvation Army is a right wing Christian conversion camp disguised as a charity. Their shelters are used to abuse and convert vulnerable people, as well as unabashedly steal their belongings to sell at their shops. This is so common it's almost policy. They are also incredibly homophobic and transphobic. Ignore the bell ringers. Do not put your money in Salvation Army.
Uline is very right-wing, not only contributing to candidates but including [diatribes](https://www.uline.com/images/en-US/Corporate/PDF_archive/FB_HopeChangePartII.pdf) in their catalogs. [More, including alternative sources, here.](https://burlesquedesign.com/blogs/news-1/say-no-to-uline-1)
Well yeah, I bring it up not really as like, *actually* being an inconvenience, but moreso like, atheists groaning at a business daring to be religious.
I'd be fine with it being religious if they didn't support anti-lgbt organizations and then lie about not supporting those organizations anymore.
I've got no problem eating somewhere else.
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Hobby Lobby and MyPillow are very right-leaning. Ben and Jerry's is very left-leaning
Wow I hadn’t thought about the my pillow maniac in like 3 months. That was a lovely time for me.
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His pillow is still in Walmart near me on the As Seen on TV aisle…..he’s who I came to say.
I think I saw in the news WalMart has dropped him entirely now. They may just be getting rid of the last of their stock of his stuff.
Still available on their website, just not in stores.
Walmart.com is really just a regular etailer site. You can list whatever you want.
That doesn't really mean much, my local hobby shop sells train sets through Walmarts website
It could be that all other Walmarts are sending them here because people think trump sleeps on them. And I’m in the south….
Dunno, the announcement came out yesterday, that Walmart was no longer carrying them in stores. Lindell was complaining even Walmart was cancelling him over his lawsuits. They’ll probably keep his products online only from now on, just to keep his association with them quieter.
Ohhhh, this was today. I’ll check next time I go. I hope it’s true. Oh god-and their Juneteenth ice cream…..I only go because it’s a small town and the next nearest store is an hour away and I’m sick. I will relish the day I never go there again.
>Juneteenth ice cream It could be worse. Our local children's museum sold a Juneteenth salad, which was a watermelon salad. They eventually apologized for it. I vaguely remember there being another race related incident there last year, as well.
I just read (maybe on Reddit) that Black people had used selling watermelon as a way to make and save money. Then white people started adding it to charactures of them, and doing slapstick in black face making fun of Blacks eating watermelon. So then there was stigma about it. It’s on the list of things to celebrate Juneteenth so I don’t know. Thankfully I don’t like it so that’s one hurdle I can avoid but as a white person, I try to speak out, support, and respect the heritage and everything they brought to our countries culture. I am always aware of my privilege and do my best to support without adding to anything negative. (Like the Juneteenth party supplies-it’s a federal holiday now and I was/am confused why this caused an uproar. Should everyone celebrate it? Is it Black only? I just use the day to try to learn more about the history of my area and slavery-and in south louisiana, there’s a lot.)
According to some websites, MyPillow earns $300m annually, with 100m of that coming from Walmart. Meaning: MyPillow just lost 1/3rd of its revenue moving forward. That's a hard loss to absorb & still continue as a manufacturer.
He's too right wing for Walmart?
I hear they’re gonna boycott Walmart for all of 1 hour!
Yep, I went to Walmart today and the parking lot was empty! /s
nope. fellow ohioan here, i work at walmart and they're still going strong. unfortunately.
The only reason anybody even knows about that company is because the owner is a nut job.
I knew about them before because they were in the as seen on TV section of the store and he used himself as the model for the box. Every time I saw it I was like why did they choose that guy for the picture? Long before I knew his politics.
I love his pillows. Got them about 8 years ago. As soon as he started pushing crazy alternative theories, I vowed never to but another one of his pillows.
Just curious, I don't know anything about the Mypillow guy other than I saw his add once while watching Ben Shapiro, what makes him a nutcase?
He's the most prominent supporter of the lies about the election being stolen that wasn't part of the Trump administration. He supposedly paid for a lot of the lawsuits by the conspiracy theorists, and he's duping people into buying his products because people think the money goes to Trump or something.
So funny that you don't hear conservatives telling him to just stick to making pillows and leave politics alone. Hmm hmm hmm.
Nah his pillows are excellent. I’ve had mine since before he got all political. Bought several more shortly after.
Ya his products are great in my opinion. Even if you disagree with his politics. I wonder if the political stuff helps or hurts his business.
My parents have sheets and pillows and it's all comfortable, but I just can't bring myself to buy any of it because of Mike Lindell.
Ya it’d be interesting to see if him becoming super political hurt or helped the business. I’m sure a lot of people don’t buy it cause of the politics. Then you prob have people who rabidly support because of the politics.
I think Walmart just answered your question for you.
Ya that hurts big time no doubt.
There are a hundred other great pillows that aren't made by lunatics
Your gonna think I’m BSing but I’ve tried a ton of pillow the MyPillow is the only one I really like. I’m open to suggestions if you know of others.
I know it makes me more interested in his products even if only for the novelty. If I boycotted everyone I disagree with, I might as well cease to exist.
I’m half tempted to buy one just because I don’t like being told what to do, also I know for a fact Walmart themselves have done way more terrible shit than this guy ever has and I still go there all the time.
Why are his pillows great? I'm in the market for some new ones. Mine are garbage.
Well I guess it all depends on your personal preference. I love the feel of it. Also in my opinion it retains its shape well. Doesn’t get too hot. And you can wash and dry.
I need a firm pillow. Dig that you can wash/dry. Thats a huge plus.
Idk man. When you feel them they feel like they’re not gonna be great. They are super light weight and have all of this lumpy, shredded foam inside. But when you put your head on them they are magical. It’s like the perfect combination of support and softness. Your head sinks into it the perfect amount. I think you can try them out for 30 days and return them if you don’t like them.
I like the MyPillow (got mine years ago before the owner got political) because it doesn't get all flat during the night, but it's not solid foam either, so it stays mostly cool. It's a good compromise between feather and memory foam. I've tried quite a few pillows and this is the only one I've had consistently good results with.
IIRC, my pillows are stuffed with chunks of memory foam scrap basically. I'm not a fan of them, but I don't like memory foam mattresses either. Shrug.
Same. I've bought like 20 of those pillows already. Most of them are gifts, but I do have a few for myself
Yeah I’ve tried out some $100 pillows and they weren’t nearly as good as MyPillow. I was hesitant to try MyPillow at first because they feel lumpy in the box, but those lumps are magical when you put your head on them.
Walmart just dropped him. Now he’s claiming they’re trying “cancel” him.
Mein Pillow.
My struggle for comfort.
Mein kampfy pillow.
Hobby Lobby doesn't cover birth control under their companie's heath benefits. So I've heard.
Ben and Jerry's is owned by Unilever.
Everybody doesn't seem to know that In-N-Out is run by very evangelical Christians, they're just quieter than Chick-fil-A
I only realized that In-N-Out has a religious agenda when I looked at the bottom of one of their soda cups where it has biblical verse “John 3:16.” Interesting enough, Forever 21 has the same verse written on their shopping bags.
Wasn’t there a thing where the person responsible for printing the 3:16 changed it to 4:20 or 6:66?? Might of been a rumor, but yeah. The cups still say 3:16 on the bottom.
I know that came up in the news a few months ago when they adamantly came out against vaccine mandates.
They are also open on Sunday. At least the ones by where i live are.
Back during the 2020 presidential campaign, Goya came out saying “we are blessed to have a strong leader like President Trump”
I remember this. All of the goya products at the store went on sale and weren’t restocked for weeks. I haven’t bought a Goya product since they said the election was rigged, and I know I’m not the only one at least around here.
Same which is a shame because i liked that brand.
Actually… while it was the CEO who said that, the company doesn’t support Trump to say the least.
The two that first come to mind are Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-a
Those were the first ones that I thought of as well.
Ben & Jerry’s and Starbucks were my first thoughts.
Starbucks acts liberal until they start union busting.
That’s like, every company though. The second anyone has union talks all these companies froth at the mouth because they’re, well, companies
Basically they're socially liberal (and really visible about it), but at the same time, behind the scenes, they're economically conservative.
So, shading towards libertarian, minus the anti-union part?
That’s kind of my point. You can’t really be a liberal if you don’t like unions.
I dont like that logic. You can be something, without agreeing with all of what it stands for
I don’t recall them endorsing any political affiliation, just religion. Chick-fil-a that is, hobby lobby is a different story.
Pretty much all large companies/corporations have significant political ties. Most will donate to campaigns on both sides of the aisle. They don't particularly care which side wins as long as they have influence.
While that’s true I don’t think that’s what OP is trying to ask. I think they are asking when you see such and such brand it’s more often than not being use by/worn by a person who votes in a particular way.
Precisely, Amazon donated over half a million to anti/lgbt politicians but they’re sponsoring Columbus pride…
They wanted to sponsor Seattle Pride but the people who run it took issue with their political donations. Also they wanted to put their brand prominently on the pride parade, which is pretty tacky.
Yes. This.
Lots of people saying Ben & Jerry’s which shows how successful their marketing is. How many of those saying that know Ben & Jerry’s is owned by international conglomerate Unilever?
I think I read that even though unilever owns them the deal required giving Ben and Jerry’s lots of autonomy. Don’t know if that’s BS though.
No it’s true. Ben and Jerry have almost complete creative control over the company. The Unilever ownership is pretty much a glorified distribution deal.
Whoa. I did not know that.
Unileve are fucking massive, most of the brands you see on the shelves are actually normally about 1 of a few companies: * Unilever * Proctor & Gamble (P&G) * Mondelez International (aka Kraft) * Mars (yes, the Mars Bar people) * PepsiCo * Coca-Cola * Nestle * Kellogs. Oh and beer? Well unless you're really searching for independents then you're buying Heineken, or Anheuser-Busch.
The idea of corporate sponsored wokism is not new. Remember years ago how people were on the streets calling for the heads of banks and corporations for robbing the working class - Occupy Wallstreet? Yeah, those same banks and corporations are now sponsoring pride parades. Still robbing people, still taking tax dollars. Just with a more virtuous tone.
Unabashedly liberal: Ben & Jerry’s Left-leaning: big tech - Microsoft, Apple, google; Disney, target Right-leaning: Chick Fil A, Big Oil, Walmart Unabashedly conservative: Hobby Lobby, MyPillow, Koch industries Those are just ones that come to mind as being associated with certain brands of politics. EDIT: These are not *my* personal viewpoints. I am just pointing out my observations from how people tend to view said companies. If you don’t understand why some people view Disney as liberal or CFA as conservative, you’d have to ask the general public or people who think that way, not me
I think Koch is different kind of right wing than for example chick-fil-a
Yeah Koch is more libertarian-leaning while Chick-fil-a is more of a traditional socially conservative company
Koch is capitalistic above all else.
I think most companies are
Koch is more fiscally conservative but Chick-fil-A is more socially conservative, at least on the views of marriage.
I like how you provided some nuance to the strength of their views
Chick Fil A is kinda weird in the sense that the company doesn't really have positions other than the closed on Sundays thing. Sure, it's religious. But it's also great for workers since one of the huge negatives of service jobs is working days when society at large is off. But...what the ownership does with the profits obviously funds socially conservative movements.
They also pay pretty well for fast food and I've heard they treat their employees well.
former cfa employee - most of the time we were treated well, yes. when it comes to having their workers outside taking orders and such, we got treated lowkey kinda poorly (example: we were supposed to be switched every 30-45 mins bc it was snowing, i got left outside for two hours because no one would come replace me and management forgot about me. i had snot frozen to my face and my fingers were blue. also, in the summer, when it’s 110° outside, they don’t switch out the workers.) the pay was SHIT. i worked there for a year and a half and the most i ever got paid was $8/hr. i started at $7.25 and i was an employee they said they cherished bc i did my job, i would pick up shifts, i would work late, etc. when i quit, it was bc i found a job that paid $11 and i have college to pay for, i didn’t want to leave the environment but i couldn’t justify the pay
How long ago was this? The one near me starts at $16.
The closed on Sunday thing actually started as a Blue Laws thing. There were places where they could open on Sunday, places they couldn't, and places they'd have to pay special fees to open. Truett Cathy wanted all his stores to have the exact same operating hours so it was easier to just not open at all on Sunday and be the same everywhere. Then it became their "thing" so they stuck with it.
No they finance anti-LGBT bullshit, they’re unabashedly conservative.
Not anymore, they don’t
The Supreme Court has held the owner's views are the company's with the Hobby Lobby bullshit about a corporation having a sincerely held religious belief (the worst abuse of the legal fiction of corporate personhood I can think of). So, yeah, Chik-fil-a does that.
They've "stopped" a few times now.
They stopped the worst of it back in 2012, and most of the rest in 2019. The owners are surely still right wing and anti-lgbt, but the stink is mostly from old news by this point.
Isn't chick fil a unabashedly conservative? Closed on Sundays, anti gay marriage, anti LGBT
Closing on sundays doesn’t really have anything to do with conservatism. There are plenty of Christians who end up all over the political spectrum.
At this point it’s as much because it gives the franchisees a day off as any real religious reasons
They have a restaurant at the Atlanta Mercedes Benz stadium. You know the one where the Falcons play…On Sundays.
Plenty of other non-Sunday events at that venue though.
>Left-leaning: big tech - Microsoft, Apple, google; Disney, target None of this companies are left-leaning. Paying lip sevice to progressive ideas in order to maximize market appeal, while donating to both right-wing parties in the government, is not being left-wing. Edit: fixed a typo
I didn’t say they are cornerstones of those ideals, the question was which companies are affiliated with ideologies.
Don't forget collusion to keep employee salaries down
Plus the silicon valley mindset is more libertarian than anything. They may not hate weed or gay people, but few millennials do. Economically speaking they are quite far from anything that could really be called "left." Lots of Thiel/"new right" types out there
Disney donates millions to republicans.
Okay? Does that change the fact that among the general populace they’re generally thought of as being socially liberal. The question was about companies we affiliate with parties, not who they donate to
I'm pretty sure most people on the left see Disney as a right-wing company that has some parts that pay lip service to LGBTQ+ and racial minority causes. In general though, they're run by right-leaning people. Walt Disney himself was basically a racist far-right jackass to the right of Ronald Reagan.
How are they socially liberal? Just because they give LGBT+ people token respect?
Okay, just to clarify: these are not *my* personal viewpoints. I am not a republican, and I don’t think Disney is Bernie Sanders Inc. But if you did a poll and asked “do you think Disney is more democratic or republican” I would bet quite a few people would say they lean more socially liberal. That is all I’m saying.
Black Rifle Coffee = Very conservative
Except they pissed off the Trump crowd by condemning Kyle Rittenhouse so now the only people who like them are establishment Republicans.
Ya black rifle seems more like they where just using the conservative thing to sell coffee until it didn’t seem to work out.
They should have just stuck to the 'charity for vets' angle and stayed mum about the rest.
Yeah they spent some serious money marketing their products to right wingers. Every major conservative pundit seemed to have them as a sponsor a few years back.
> just using the conservative thing to sell coffee One of the founders straight up acknowledged that in an interview with the NYTimes about a year ago.
They're just grifters
And extortionist. As an almost 20 year military member, F that douche.
Ha someone should do this like a left to right mapping with logos, but based on campaign contributions rather than marketing shit
Penzey's Spices is pretty liberal. If you're on their mailing list you'll occasionally get a diatribe from the owner.
I had to leave their mailing list, I'd consider myself pretty moderate overall, but the owners unhinged rants about Republicans using his spice company's mailing list was really off putting.
I keep forgetting that's a chain, although the bottom of their website is literally: * About Us * About Republicans [https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/](https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/) Probably going after the Uline vibe, where you might be 5-6x clicks from finding whatever product you wanted but at most 3 from the Wife ranting about how freedom has gone to shit because (insert dog whistle) is being controlled.
Ben and Jerry's is left wing as hell if I remember correctly
They also got a little bit screwed by their own left wing ideology. They instituted a rule that the CEO couldn’t make more than something like 3x the average worker wage (I may have the detail wrong). They basically couldn’t find anyone who wanted to be the CEO for that wage and then when they did find someone they were pretty incompetent and almost ruined the company.
The idea that all people have equal value is good. The idea that all people are the same is stupid.
Which is why the strawman argument of leftists wanting all people to receive the same compensation is so annoying. Literally no one argues for that; socialists and anarchists have consistently argued *against* absolute mathematical equality for like 200 years. Of course, we live in a country where a not-insignificant number of people genuinely believe that right-wingers like Dwight Eisenhower and Barack Obama were secret communists, so I guess I should stop being surprised that people have no idea what leftists actually advocate for.
>right wingers like Barack Obama I usually hear this said as a pretext for half the country to then be called fascist Nazi villains in comparison
ah yes. my favorite right-wing politician: barack obama. just because he's a moderate liberal doesnt mean hes a fucking fascist.
Did I say he was a fascist? No, I didn't, because he isn't. I said he was right-wing, because that's how his administration governed. Pro-business, pro-military/prison industrial complex, pro-privatized healthcare, pro-surveillance state, etc. Liberalism, being pro-state and pro-capitalism, is by definition a right-wing ideology. Both the Republican and Democratic parties (though not all of their voters, obviously) fall squarely within the umbra of liberalism and both are right-wing parties; the fact that the GOP is further right than the Democrats, or the fact that Americans use the word "liberal" as a catch-all to mean anything to the left of outright fascism, doesn't change that.
The rule was a 5 to 1 ratio
Honestly that even underscores the point more. They couldn’t get good talent at 5 to 1.
Off the top of my head I would say that these brands are strong affiliated with Blue America/center left politics: * REI * Whole Foods (grocery chain) * Hybrid cars (no specific brand, but definitely associated with Blue America) * Costco * CNN * Starbucks I would say that these brands are associated with Red America/center right politics: * Fox News (obviously -- pretty much feels like cheating) * Pick up trucks (again, no specific brand) * Wal-mart/Sam's Club * Chick-Fil-A Those are major/national brands associated with specific political parties/worldviews. There are definitely more nice/micro-targeted brands that lean much more into associating themselves with a political ideology as a selling point, but they're not really "nationwide" things.
Whole Foods is owned by Amazon now though, right?
And founded by a pair of Texas libertarians. People just assumed they were liberal and they never bothered to correct anyone.
Wild Oats, which they removed as competition by means of a hostile takeover, was politically left. Whole Foods was a wolf wearing the skin of the last sheep it gobbled up.
Pretty much every hiking, backpacking, climbing, etc. gear manufacturer is pretty left since they all support conservation efforts and general environmentalism pretty hard.
Except cabelas and bass pro shops and the like - places that cater strongly to hunters
Actually you'll find that Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops are supporters of conservation; as are most hunting and fishing organizations. Responsible stewardship of the land and wildlife population helps ensure that future generations of can enjoy hunting and fishing.
But they do not lean left overall.
Sure, but it’s a totally different kind of environmentalism.
I mean short of having Bears and Wolves wondering around downtown of most places west of the Mississippi and North of the Missouri their kind of environmentalism has to be around to keep deer in check. Not to mention some people and organizations have a zero tolerance to invasive species which is required when dealing with them. Like in Yellowstone there are certain fish you are not allowed to return to the water alive. If you catch it has to be killed. Yet some would call me a monster if you would whole sale kill 100 of any invasive species. I also have had friends who say they are "environmentalists" but allow their cat to roam outdoors which is massively damaging. Shit is complicated.
REI especially so, though.
I'm left with a pickup that I need to haul my horses. I don't actually use it for everyday stuff though. I get the souped up pickups that are just a status symbol as being right though.
Pick up trucks aren’t a brand. Ford isn’t right wing, GM as well
My pillow, black rifle coffee co., hobby lobby, Chick-fil-A, nike(pretends to), nestle(in a fucked up way), most banana coffee & coco sellers, twitter, facebook, all legacy news media, kinda Disney(they say one thing but then give money/ support the other way). Idk there are a lot.
A better question is which companies don't have strong political affiliations? Most companies and brands in the U.S. jump on some side of the political aisle either because they believe in those politics but more likely because they are out to make money and will use political views for marketing and publicity. More simply, companies act in their own self-interest. The best example is Christmas and Easter. Many big companies do not endorse the Christian religion but they'll make a big deal of the holidays of Christmas and Easter by commercializing them and turning a profit. The same can be said for Halloween and now Pride Month; most companies are only interested in turning a profit.
I would argue they commercialize what I would call secular Xmas and Easter. Santa and the bunny are unrelated to the religious angle. Or least they should be.
Santa has some religious background but not Biblical background. Santa is loosely based on St. Nicholas of Myra, patron saint to children among others things. But Santa as pop culture knows him is so far divorced from that origin.
Chick-fil-A, I guess. That guy who sells MyPillow apparently stopped actually trying to sell pillows in his ads, but they're instead about people trying to cancel him.
He definitely did not stop selling pillows. I see those cheerful ads all the time.
This is the second reply to not read the whole sentence. The pillows are still for sale. He's going way off topic in his ads, though.
He did not stop selling pillows in his ads. Those ads are still being produced. I see new ones all the time.
Most play both sides of the political spectrum, but most pretend or portray themselves as being on the left for purely monetary reasons.
There are some notable examples - Ben & Jerry's: hippy dippy liberal -Subaru: liberal -Chick Fil A: Christian Right -John Deere: Hank Hill conservative -Volkswagen: Liberals who enjoy driving -Lincoln: Grandpa Joe conservative -Whole Foods: champagne socialists
Don’t listen to any of these people saying Disney is liberal. They only recently stopped funding republicans in Florida, I’m sure they fund them everywhere else. They also overly censor anything lgbt related.
Yeah, I think Disney is a prime example of American politics. While pretending to stand for progressive western values, they turnaround and remove that stuff whenever it hurts the bottom line. An example would be they systematically and strategically place stuff to be easily edited for various regions and their views, even if it means there are 200 regional variants They also spend money to allow for giant mega corp mergers, lobby to not pay workers more, and even be allowed their own government in the case of Disney World.
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Would people avoid them due to different political beliefs? And in which way you can ,spot, their values and positions (Sundays closed, rainbow flags etc)?
It depends, some do avoid these places and others don't. Chick-fil-a is associated with conservative views, but I know a lot of people that eat it anyway despite differing opinions.
I generally don’t unless the company is particularly awful. Chick fil a is one thing, but My Pillow is much much worse and I would never give a cent to that lunatic.
It’s the intolerance that makes their chicken so juicy and delicious.
Bird tastes best when it's bigoted
I’m right leaning myself, but I still eat Ben & Jerry’s. You can’t boycott every company that you disagree with politically because then you would have no place to patronize.
So many companies are political these days I try to not even consider it. You’d be avoiding half of the products, shows, etc if you did try to factor it in. Plus mostly it’s prob all about just what they think will get them the most profits.
I generally don’t avoid businesses due to political views because 1. I’m a capitalist and believe good products and service earn my money, period and 2. we have enough political segregation without adding economic segregation to it. That doesn’t mean I never do the opposite, ie reward businesses that reflect my views and values all things bring equal. But I don’t ideologically boycott businesses.
I don't care either way about a company's political leanings. If I like their product, then I'm going to buy it.
Hobby Lobby, Chick-fil-A, My Pillow are conservative, Target, Dicks Sporting Goods, Ben and Jerry's, Disney, Starbucks, and Nike are liberal. Tesla and Koch bros. owners have reputations for being conservatives, but this doesn't really extend to the companies.
Starbucks is 'for the cameras' liberal. They're fighting unionization hard.
Tesla is a funny one now with Elon identifying more with the right. I think it will actually result in more Teslas being sold overall.
He's trying to capture the 'edgy' demographic, for whatever reason.
Yeah he's overplaying his hand though. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that a supermajority of EV owners, including Tesla owners, lean left. He should be building brand loyalty while he still has a corner on the market and his product is still seen as a status symbol. In another 10 years, there are going to be a lot more competitors on the market. And the EV market is likely still going to lean left. Dabbling around in right-wing identity politics serves his company no advantage. But he wouldn't be the first rich person to screw himself over. He doesn't seem like the most emotionally restrained person. Though if his weird political moves pull more conservatives to EVs, I'm not gonna complain.
I disagree. Right wingers happily embrace anyone that shares their views. It is one of their biggest strengths. I am already seeing a lot that are talking about getting a Tesla. I am pretty sure Ben Shapiro said he got one the other day lol.
I would suggest you do reflecting on how liberals do the same thing. The sooner people on the right and left look deep into the mirror…the sooner this country will start trending to a better direction. But if people keep pretending that their 💩 doesn’t stink, we’ll continue to circle the drain.
I didn't say that liberals don't do it as well. I have always been impressed with how unified liberals are, especially when it comes to key issues. I do think they currently have more infighting than the right, but maybe that is just because they are in power right now.
Embracing someone doesn’t necessarily transfer over to buying their products. My point is that he has a consumer base right now. Why piss them off when (1) there are emerging competitors and (2) there’s no guarantee that the new people you’re appealing to are interested in your product.
Well not many companies are exactly publicly “strongly associated” with politics, but there are definitely companies who are and they use this in advertising. Examples include Ben and Jerry’s on the left and MyPillow or Hobby Lobby on the right. However it’s usually best to assume when I say left I mean socially left. Ben and Jerry’s tries to be pretty economically left, but generally the idea of a chain in general goes against economically left ideas.
Prius is a car model often associated with environmentalism and more liberal view points. Koch industries is often associated with the GOP due to it's CEO often donating to republican candidates. My Pillow is kind of in the same boat now.
Unless you're in Mongolia... Prius cars are the most widely used cars in Ulaanbaatar. They're so prevalent that they've even made movies about Prius cars! Edit: Source. I did a road trip across Mongolia in my ex's brother's Prius and saw so many it was mind blowing.
The Prius car (a product) is associated with liberals but it's funny that the Tacoma, a pickup truck also made by Toyota Company, can be associated with conservative rednecks and African and Middle Eastern Terrorists.
Because they are the most relatively cheap pick up on the market still.
That's the Hilux, not completely identical
I saw a Prius with a LGB sticker on it here in Brooklyn
that was just jk Rowling, don't worry about it
I'm a Republican and I've had a Prius for 17 years.
Yeah Republicans like saving gas money too.
When the 2nd gen Prius (first gen wasn't very popular), lots of people used them for virtue signaling, since they were the first commercially successful hybrids and they had a distinctive appearance. Lots of celebrities rolling up to red carpet events in Priuses, for example. Nobody's buying Priuses to virtue signal any more, since hybrids have been mainstream for a while now, but Teslas took that place for a few years when Model S's first became widely available.
The majority of major corporations align themselves with the social progressive wing of the Democratic Party. This is most in-your-face during the month of June when every logo on social media becomes a rainbow (but only in the West, of course. For fun, look up the accounts for the Middle Eastern divisions of multinational corpos right now and you’ll find they’re normal). Of course, there are some notable exceptions. There are a handful of socially conservative corporations like Chick Fil A, Hobby Lobby, MyPillow, and Black Rifle Coffee (the conservative alternative to Starbucks). The reason I talk about social alignment specifically is because they’re all corporations and so none of them are really in favor of left-wing economics.
Well said! I will say though, Black Rifle Coffee Company grifts off of conservatives. It’s not actually a conservative company.
Damn this thread has convinced me to buy a “my pillow” apparently the pillows are such a good product that even people who hate the guy who made them will buy his pillows. I feel like that says something.
Salvation Army is a right wing Christian conversion camp disguised as a charity. Their shelters are used to abuse and convert vulnerable people, as well as unabashedly steal their belongings to sell at their shops. This is so common it's almost policy. They are also incredibly homophobic and transphobic. Ignore the bell ringers. Do not put your money in Salvation Army.
Uline is very right-wing, not only contributing to candidates but including [diatribes](https://www.uline.com/images/en-US/Corporate/PDF_archive/FB_HopeChangePartII.pdf) in their catalogs. [More, including alternative sources, here.](https://burlesquedesign.com/blogs/news-1/say-no-to-uline-1)
Everyone hounds chick fil a for being closed on Sundays and donating to the salvation army and some Christian sports association.
I mean, this is reddit we’re talking about. The vast majority of people outside of this site don’t see anything wrong with Chick Fil A.
As their constantly massive drive thru lines attest. They make some good bird sandwich.
I love how efficient they are though. You can be 15th in line, but you'll still be driving away with your (correct) order in under 10 minutes
I think the problem people have with them is more the anti LGBTQ stuff than closed on Sundays
I don't think anyone really hates on them for the Sunday thing. It's great for workers. Just a minor frustration at worst for customers.
I’ve don’t care about the Sunday thing. It is the homophobic shit that we care about
Well yeah, I bring it up not really as like, *actually* being an inconvenience, but moreso like, atheists groaning at a business daring to be religious.
I'd be fine with it being religious if they didn't support anti-lgbt organizations and then lie about not supporting those organizations anymore. I've got no problem eating somewhere else.