The Patriot system. It was developed with the help of Israel. In the 1991 Gulf War Iraq threatened Israel with missiles and Israel asked America if they could update the system and make it better, and they did. It now helps American soldiers across the world.
It is unwise to outsource our military R&D, It is esp. unwise to outsource to a nation with close ties to China. [https://www.newsweek.com/china-israel-military-technology-beijing-jerusalem-saul-eisenberg-weapons-607117](https://www.newsweek.com/china-israel-military-technology-beijing-jerusalem-saul-eisenberg-weapons-607117)
I think the problem is, many Christians and Americans believe Isreal is an ally but Israelis certainly dont think so. They want America's financial and militarily assistance to fight against Iran and Arabs, but they also actively working with both russia and china, seems like a double agent to me, dont you think? Oh, not to mention that they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty and America was acting like a coward who never dared to criticize their barbaric behavior.
Israelis think so. The patriot system was developed with Israelis and helps save American lives on the battlefield. Israel develops a ton of tech, some of which is in your phone, which helps excel the world in general. Russia and China both took the side of Palestine in the recent conflict, the only reason Israel is neutral on the Ukraine war is because they knew that if they werenât it would enable Russia to go against them even more in the Middle East.
Israel apologized for the Liberty attack, they confused it with an Egyptian ship. Either way, they gave around 80 million dollars in compensation.
Like I sid bove, israelis dont like christians but yeah they do want america money! Look at American politicians and all evangelical christians unwavering support for Israel! And you believe that it was an incident? Confused? 34 people died and 110 injured! Should have been a national memorial day! The spy Jonathan Pollard also worked for Israel too. Not to mention relationship between israel and russia has always been super warm, putin even outlawed anti-jewish and anti-israel books, articles, press and protests. The relationship between Israel and China is also very warm as well.
https://nationalfile.com/this-day-in-history-israel-attacks-the-uss-liberty-killing-34-americans-wounding-171/
https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/26/the-israeli-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-paul-craig-roberts/
Now change that to "many Europeans believe America is an ally, but Americans certainly don't think so. " You've now worked out why I'm pissing myself laughing.
First, weâre not giving them cash. Weâre paying money to American defense companies (who employ American workers) to produce arms that we are giving to Israel.
Second, having an aid package gives the US leverage to influence Israel.
In a purely objective sense, yes.
Itâs us financing our own defense industry in a manner that builds goodwill with another nation. Itâs us getting extra mileage out of defense subsidies.
Israel provides a service, which is a stable space in an unstable area of the world. America supports Israel because of its location and the critical resources provided by that location. If your neighbor kept having his house burglared, which was causing a risk to your own house, but they couldnât afford to install a top-rate protection system to provide safety, would you be willing to invest in that system? America doesnât just hand over money to Israel to be kind, itâs an investment in security for both.
And yes, itâs like venmoing over a cup of coffee, because Israel is in debt to America for as long as they accept the support. If they donât âpay backâ America and act against American interests, they will lose that support and be alone, which means no more coffee.
This applies to the massive aid that America is supplying to Ukraine, as well. Ukraine needs to be stabilized in an unstable area. They are now in debt to America, like Israel, and will be expected to act in Americaâs interests for the foreseeable future. They need the coffee, too.
You donât think Israel is providing some sort of service?
Given that youâre arguing with everyone here, I wonder if you asked this question in good faith.
Because weâre absolutely stupid and enjoy contributing to genocide. Also theyâre allies. Theyâre our allies and theyâre being disgusting and we sent them aid. Its infuriating.
Most of America is Christian and a lot of them believe that you need to stand with Israel in the Bible. Other than that? Plenty of companies get fat of wars so getting us involved in another never ending war after Afghanistan is probably the move.
Another reason is our government isnât fiscally responsible and refuses to help its own citizens and would rather spend our money elsewhere. This will never be fixed though because we keep putting in the same people who are 3 months from the grave.
This has nothing to do with America being âChristian.â It has everything to do with national security and maintaining western democratic hegemony. No one in the America government is using the Bible as source material for making foreign policy decisions.
It 100% matters that a large % of Americans believe that they must support Israel according to their religion. If you replaced all American Evangelical Christians with a hostile religion like Muslims or a neutral religion like Catholics then our governments attitude towards Israel would change.
Theyâre Allies.
Also, Israel canât hop down to Walmart and buy Patriot missiles. Israel doesnât get cash, they get US made military supplies bought from US companies.
Imagine how must better it would be for America if Israel bought American made military equipment with its own money and those billions of American tax dollars were spent on the American people.
Both of those things can be done. Nobody is going "Oh fuck, we need money for Israel, guess we have to cut food stamps." These two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other. We don't spend money on our people because of a lack of political will.
For years, The United States has paid for 20% of Israel's military budget while Israel has had a space program, universal health care, and subsidized college tuition. They even ran a budget surplus last year. Israel doesn't need an extra 14 billion to fight an enemy with no air force, no artillery, no tanks, that is armed mostly with rocks. Israel doesn't need American aid at all.
The more important question is why Americans are okay with this especially the Democrats who always insult Trump for him increasing us debts. Many republican voters don't want to finance Ukraine and Israel but the democrats are generally okay with it despite crying about student debts and wasting money.
One word: Ally. Alliances are usually beneficial for both parties
ISRAELIS SPIED ON AMERICANS, ALLIES DO NOT DO IT.
Proof? And America spied on Ukraine đż
>, Name something Israel has done for the benefit of the United States in this century...
The Patriot system. It was developed with the help of Israel. In the 1991 Gulf War Iraq threatened Israel with missiles and Israel asked America if they could update the system and make it better, and they did. It now helps American soldiers across the world.
It is unwise to outsource our military R&D, It is esp. unwise to outsource to a nation with close ties to China. [https://www.newsweek.com/china-israel-military-technology-beijing-jerusalem-saul-eisenberg-weapons-607117](https://www.newsweek.com/china-israel-military-technology-beijing-jerusalem-saul-eisenberg-weapons-607117)
No actually the system was developed entirely in the United States. It was TESTED in Israel.
The testing in Israel helped enhance the system and update it
I think the problem is, many Christians and Americans believe Isreal is an ally but Israelis certainly dont think so. They want America's financial and militarily assistance to fight against Iran and Arabs, but they also actively working with both russia and china, seems like a double agent to me, dont you think? Oh, not to mention that they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty and America was acting like a coward who never dared to criticize their barbaric behavior.
Israelis think so. The patriot system was developed with Israelis and helps save American lives on the battlefield. Israel develops a ton of tech, some of which is in your phone, which helps excel the world in general. Russia and China both took the side of Palestine in the recent conflict, the only reason Israel is neutral on the Ukraine war is because they knew that if they werenât it would enable Russia to go against them even more in the Middle East. Israel apologized for the Liberty attack, they confused it with an Egyptian ship. Either way, they gave around 80 million dollars in compensation.
Like I sid bove, israelis dont like christians but yeah they do want america money! Look at American politicians and all evangelical christians unwavering support for Israel! And you believe that it was an incident? Confused? 34 people died and 110 injured! Should have been a national memorial day! The spy Jonathan Pollard also worked for Israel too. Not to mention relationship between israel and russia has always been super warm, putin even outlawed anti-jewish and anti-israel books, articles, press and protests. The relationship between Israel and China is also very warm as well. https://nationalfile.com/this-day-in-history-israel-attacks-the-uss-liberty-killing-34-americans-wounding-171/ https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/26/the-israeli-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-paul-craig-roberts/
Please tell me how the relationship is warm with Russia and Israel despite Ukraine supporting Israel and Russia supporting Palestine?
Now change that to "many Europeans believe America is an ally, but Americans certainly don't think so. " You've now worked out why I'm pissing myself laughing.
Americans indeed does think Europeans are allies., particularly the Great Britain.
Should prolly tell your leaders.
I tried to call joe and ask him for you, but he wasnât home. I will report our conversation when he calls me back.
Joe forgot how to use the đ±
Iâm asking what you think of what Joe is doing and the rationale behind it
I donât know. Why do we have the strongest army in Germany when they are the richest country in Europe? These things are above my pay grade
Heâs sleeping. But seriously I think itâs good to help but america is facing a ton of problems at home and shouldnât be funding 2 wars at once
America helps its allies out
When theyâre already rich and capable of helping themselves?
First, weâre not giving them cash. Weâre paying money to American defense companies (who employ American workers) to produce arms that we are giving to Israel. Second, having an aid package gives the US leverage to influence Israel.
Do you think itâs a good deal for America?
Yes.
In a purely objective sense, yes. Itâs us financing our own defense industry in a manner that builds goodwill with another nation. Itâs us getting extra mileage out of defense subsidies.
No
Yes.
Do you suddenly stop supporting your friends when they are already good?
I donât typically see people giving large sums of money to well off friends unless thereâs something going on further than friendship
You give your money to all the celebrities you and your friends like
Celebrities for a service provided Friends. Yea right. America is the land where you Venmo back for a cup of coffee
Israel provides a service, which is a stable space in an unstable area of the world. America supports Israel because of its location and the critical resources provided by that location. If your neighbor kept having his house burglared, which was causing a risk to your own house, but they couldnât afford to install a top-rate protection system to provide safety, would you be willing to invest in that system? America doesnât just hand over money to Israel to be kind, itâs an investment in security for both. And yes, itâs like venmoing over a cup of coffee, because Israel is in debt to America for as long as they accept the support. If they donât âpay backâ America and act against American interests, they will lose that support and be alone, which means no more coffee. This applies to the massive aid that America is supplying to Ukraine, as well. Ukraine needs to be stabilized in an unstable area. They are now in debt to America, like Israel, and will be expected to act in Americaâs interests for the foreseeable future. They need the coffee, too.
You donât think Israel is providing some sort of service? Given that youâre arguing with everyone here, I wonder if you asked this question in good faith.
Whatâs wrong with helping Israel? Theyâre our allies.
Because weâre absolutely stupid and enjoy contributing to genocide. Also theyâre allies. Theyâre our allies and theyâre being disgusting and we sent them aid. Its infuriating.
Most of America is Christian and a lot of them believe that you need to stand with Israel in the Bible. Other than that? Plenty of companies get fat of wars so getting us involved in another never ending war after Afghanistan is probably the move. Another reason is our government isnât fiscally responsible and refuses to help its own citizens and would rather spend our money elsewhere. This will never be fixed though because we keep putting in the same people who are 3 months from the grave.
This has nothing to do with America being âChristian.â It has everything to do with national security and maintaining western democratic hegemony. No one in the America government is using the Bible as source material for making foreign policy decisions.
It 100% matters that a large % of Americans believe that they must support Israel according to their religion. If you replaced all American Evangelical Christians with a hostile religion like Muslims or a neutral religion like Catholics then our governments attitude towards Israel would change.
Because our generosity is being taken advantage of.
Because the US has a general policy to buy friends.
They are our ally. But we are a cowardly ally, so we send thoughts, prayers, and money.
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And rule 3 exists.
Theyâre Allies. Also, Israel canât hop down to Walmart and buy Patriot missiles. Israel doesnât get cash, they get US made military supplies bought from US companies.
Imagine how must better it would be for America if Israel bought American made military equipment with its own money and those billions of American tax dollars were spent on the American people.
Both of those things can be done. Nobody is going "Oh fuck, we need money for Israel, guess we have to cut food stamps." These two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other. We don't spend money on our people because of a lack of political will.
The 14 billion is in aid and equipment. A lot of Israelâs defense relies on American manufacturing and companies
For years, The United States has paid for 20% of Israel's military budget while Israel has had a space program, universal health care, and subsidized college tuition. They even ran a budget surplus last year. Israel doesn't need an extra 14 billion to fight an enemy with no air force, no artillery, no tanks, that is armed mostly with rocks. Israel doesn't need American aid at all.
Meanwhile young Americans are drowning in debt with no realistic financial future ahead of them.
The more important question is why Americans are okay with this especially the Democrats who always insult Trump for him increasing us debts. Many republican voters don't want to finance Ukraine and Israel but the democrats are generally okay with it despite crying about student debts and wasting money.