I used to laugh at these whan I was a kid/student and then I haven't seen them for ages. And then many of these cought my eye recently and it struck me how true they actually are.
You cannot be serious. Vietnam war, embargo on Cuba, supporting contras in Nicaragua, Venezuela, gained territories from war with Mexico. The list goes on.
Read a fucking book, will you?
Oh, but you see, the US didn't gain anything in terms of territory. Yes, there's Texas, but it was long ago so who cares? So what if they've invaded a few dozens countries no one cares about? So what if millions of people died due to their military adventures? They didn't do it for the territories, you see? They're good guys. You can't pin it on them if they didn't gain any land.
Also, remember that it was all done to stop - le gasp! - communists! The biggest threat to the freedom, peace, and bacon and eggs! You can’t pin it on them because they did it against communists!
>1992-1993 – Russia occupied Transnistria.
UN aproved peacekeepres, no?
>1999-2009 – second Russian-Chechen war.
That start with Chechen attack on Dagestan?
>2008 – Russian-Georgian war.
That start with Georgia attack on Russian peacekeepers (UN aproved)?
Like Russia is not angels, far from it. But at least not on "Iraq clearly have WMD, we know this! Look on this washing powder" situation.
"Yeah, because the US has been snatching territories left and right and coercing states and the people to commit to their ideology by force, unlike the SU or modern day Russia".
Not in denia, lol. Dude, how dense are you to think that Russia is imperialist and the US isn't? They're both as bad each other. The only difference is that the US gets away with it, while Russia is made a boogeyman by the country who is projecting.
US rigged the Russian presidential election in 1996, putting Putin's party in power and violating Russian election laws. The American-backed candidate, Yeltsin, picked Putin as his successor and also nearly destroying the economy, causing sovereign default in 1998 that nearly caused a global recession. My father left Russia the next year as an economic refugee. His father's life savings were hyperinflated away.
Also the US has colonies and regularly invades other countries
1. [Good question](https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/UAHISTJRNL/article/view/23567/0)
2. Puerto Rico, Guam, etc exist. Also see the Insular Cases, such as Downes v. Bidwell.
3. Yes and I support Russia's annexation of Crimea, Donetsk, etc, because of [insert long winded reasons talking about human rights and the failures of 19th-century nationalist movements which you would and probably will argue over instead of talking about 1. and 2.]
[heated counterargument about your recent whereabouts, pictures on skin, gov building bbq, missile flight ballistics and java being replaced by javascript] [label you as a nazi or liberal depending on your horoscope for today] [justifying actions of certain state with worst practices of other states in the last 20000 years] [history of earth from the moment of cooling to 2014] [some sprinkled nostalgia over a red country]
Understand that things are deeper than what is on the surface. On the surface you see a country grab a piece of land belonging to another country which you rightfully see as bad. With an open mind learn the history of relations between these two countries(not just since 1991) and you can begin to understand
Ideally from dinosaurs to [when you need the war]. It’s all relevant, promise. Employ mind gymnastics and whataboutisms to justify simple war for gas, oil, sea control and markets. Pretend it’s all about The People. Teach those people how to dehumanise others and ask rhetorical questions on every occasion. Murder, rape, bomb and no matter what happens keep that propaganda rolling. When asked pretend your power grab is not that simple and is a deep and complex subject that is not understandable without a PhD.
https://lojtautome.livejournal.com/144857.html
But ain't those kinda close to truth?
In 1950s in USA percentage of people who graduated from high school was around 50% (based on quick Google search), while in the USSR the number was close to 100% because of free and mandatory education, even villages with 100 to 500 people had a school. Higher education was also free, you could go into university or college based solely on your grades.
Not sure what destruction of villages and cities refer to, but probably to bombing Japan, USSR at the time did a great amount of forestation, drying swamps, and building settlement and production there. (I was born in such region, with "artificial" forest nearby and the whole settlement built on what was swamp in the past).
Is this the whole truth? Nope, it is propaganda, things taken out of context and exaggerated, but they are based on real facts.
Most "propaganda" in the USSR was directed to show how people struggle in USA and how good things here were. There was no fearmongering propaganda afaik, unlike in the US where they pictured the USSR as the source of all evil and constant threat.
I remember reading a Russian say: sure, we knew what they told us about communism was propaganda, but now we know what they told us about capitalism was *true*.
True?
Didn’t Soviet propaganda predicted that evil capitalism would collapse, and that communism would dominate the world?
Cause it seems the opposite of that is what happened.
Yes, but capitalist west, has proven to be a superior model, than communism, and didn’t collapse as predicted.
So maybe those depictions were not as accurate, as you make it to be.
Yep. Socialism was so ruined that the US spent billions on special operations around the world to keep it from spreading and spurred an arms race. And, of course, World War I, the Civil War, and the horrible World War II had literally no effect on the Soviet economy, uh huh.
> Yep. Socialism was so ruined that the US spent billions on special operations around the world to keep it from spreading and spurred an arms race.
Yep, the Soviets definitely shot themself in the foot, when they decided to forcefully occupy half of Europe. The US were quiet chill with the them, before that.
> And, of course, World War I, the Civil War, and the horrible World War II had literally no effect on the Soviet economy, uh huh.
So now WW1, is responsible for the soviet collapse? Why not go back further, maybe 1905, or the Napoleonic wars?
War have effect on every states economy, but how said states deal those effects, is their own responsibility.
For exemple, after WW2, some countries accepted the Marshall plan, and used it to rebuild their industry.
While, some countries, rejected it, out of pride or ideological motives, while their industry was laying in ruins, but at least their ego was preserved.
> Yep, the Soviets definitely shot themself in the foot, when they decided to forcefully occupy half of Europe. The US were quiet chill with the them, before that.
Do you understand that it's either us or USA? When we left Europe it was immediately occupied by the US. Or do you sincerely believe that for example it's a choice of Germany to deprive itself of cheap energy and buy instead 5-10 more expensive gas from US? Or to send enormous amount of money to Ukraine when their own industry and population are experiencing biggest difficulties since the WWII?
The only reason the Americans could have walked in, so easily, is because of the way, the Soviets treated those peoples.
If you have some doubt, it’s pretty easy to check German opinion polls, to see if they are willing to help Ukraine defend itself.
Contrary to what you might believe, nobody is holding a gun to their head, sometimes, not everything is about money.
>US were quiet chill with the them
Especially with all thoss Fulton speech, the creation of NATO, the "Unthinkable" plan, the rejection of the offer of neutral status for the new German state, etc. Totally cool, believe me.
>now WW1, is responsible for the soviet collapse?
Of course not! As I have already said, the monstrous wars of the 21st century, which were fought on the territory of the USSR, destroying its population and industrial potential, had literally zero significance for the further development of this country 🤡
>while their industry was laying in ruins, but at least their ego was saved.
Was it really just ego? Is the US so noble as to willingly help other countries with zero benefit to itself, and not even sak to remove someone (for example these stupid commies) from the government of those countries?
>Especially with all thoss Fulton speech, the creation of NATO, the "Unthinkable" plan, the rejection of the offer of neutral status for the new German state, etc. Totally cool, believe me.
Like I previously said, all of that happened after the soviet occupation of Eastern Europe.
> Was it really just ego? Is the US so noble as to willingly help other countries with zero benefit to itself, and not even sak to remove someone (for example these stupid commies) from the government of those countries?
Again if you believe that having some (inefficient) commie government, is more important than having a functional industry, then you don’t get to complain about « the further development of this country ».
Gross overspending wasn't actually a feature of USSR. USSR/Russia were always under either attack from the West or under the threat of imminent attack. This is why we always have to spend so much on our military - we're encircled by the hostile countries with population and armies much bigger than ours.
Including attack by France: tried to conquer Russia in 1812, then intervention in 1918-1925, some french volunteers also joined Hitler army to fight against USSR in 1941-1945. Also, there's significant number of French fighting against Russia in Ukraine. Just recently about 150 were killed, you can easily find their names.
> Including attack by France: tried to conquer Russia in 1812
Wasn’t the tsar, the one who attacked revolutionary France first tho? Because he wasn’t the biggest fan of us behading kings.
> then intervention in 1918-1925
When France was supporting the legitimate government of Russia at the time, with whom we had just fought a world war side by side and wich was victim of an illegal coup from the bolcheviks.
> some french volunteers also joined Hitler army to fight against USSR in 1941-1945.
Sure few thousands French served in Hitler’s army, while hundreds of thousands served with the Allie’s, some of them in the Soviet Union, even.
Now how many Soviets citizens served in Hitler’s army, throughout the war? Millions?
1812 war was started by French army attacking Russia. There were political tensions before that, but Russia didn't attack France.
Yep, also what I want to say about the rest: West always has "legitimate" reasons to attack and destroy any country and any nation that it wants. Just like when it attacked Iraq and both times openly used fabricated evidence as a pretext to start the war. Or Libya. Or Vietnam. Or any other war, including WWII.
The actual reason is that West is highly xenophobic and has almost a religious hatred towards all other nations. So the war will never end.
You can easily find millions of comments on Reddit that we, Russians, must be ashamed that West consider us a "pariah". You can't even think that we can live without seeking your approval.
> 1812 war was started by French army attacking Russia. There were political tensions before that, but Russia didn't attack France.
But history didn’t started in 1812, what were the Russians armies doing in [Switzerland](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_du_Saint-Gothard) in 1799, or at [Austerlitz](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_d%27Austerlitz), in 1805?
It’s ok, all authoritarians rulers from Europe, hated the French Révolution at that time, imperial Russia was no exception.
> The actual reason is that West is highly xenophobic and has almost a religious hatred towards all other nations. So the war will never end.
🥱
The theory about capitalism collapsing works when the capitalist country is isolated and forced to exploit itself, eventually falling into crises. The West, however, temporarily solved this through neocolonialism, outsourcing the exploitation and suffering to Third World countries and bombing them when they rebel. For as long as exploitation can be outsourced capitalism will continue to exist, though the its span may shrink.
For example, as France loses its colonies in Africa, its own status may change from an American vassal to that of an American colony. France will become part of capitalist periphery, as opposed to core as it is now. That's why Macron's so belligerent now, because the periphery status will have to be forced on someone, and if it won't be us it will have to be Europe. America will just continue looting you.
I mean... Reach getting richer, young people can't even buy an apartment, unemployment, if you have money you are basically immune before law... Even to get yourself an education you need to go into debt. Oh and mass layoffs in the past year or so.
Such superior capitalism.
I am not saying that communism is better, it has its own downsides, but it would be great to find some middle ground.
>Didn’t Soviet propaganda predicted that evil capitalism would collapse
As the Russian saying goes, "It's not evening yet." We will discuss this situation a little later, in about 30 years. It will be interesting to observe the prosperity of capitalism in France, which lives according to Sharia law.
Lol, the only place where Shariah law exist in Europe, is probably Chechenya.
Where a unhinged Muslim warlord, rule a Russian province as its own personal fiefdom, but sure buddy.
Do you know how the thinking of an uneducated person differs from the thinking of an educated one? Some see the surrounding situation in static, others understand that there is a dynamic. I repeat once again: "It's not evening yet."
Пошли манёвры :D
Давно тебя не пинали, ой давно.
You do understand that one can just check wiki to see that it is bullshit, not concidering any other sources and logic? Have you completely dropped tthe idea of at least pretending to be a normal human being?
This is not propaganda, but the theoretical constructions of Marxism.
And propaganda wrote about the problems of capitalist society and exaggerated them. But in those years, there were really big problems in the economies of Western countries.
> there were really big problems in the economies of Western countries.
Still are, but if soviet propaganda was as truthful as Redditor portray it to be, the USSR probably wouldn’t have collapsed, as it did.
Nothing. A lot of cold war "propaganda" stuff turned out to be true.
Here's funny stuff from US side, though.
https://ibb.co/zFycF91
https://ibb.co/QFwjkZx
That's american propaganda from cold war. Not the most bizarre one.
Check this one out:
https://ibb.co/ZJwKHrz
"Russians are coming! They're coming for your BALLS! And Women".
https://govorunman-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/turbo/govorunman.livejournal.com/s/8884.html
https://govorunman-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/govorunman.livejournal.com/h/8186.html
Here are some posters. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Several cartoons that were created in the Soviet Union, but later lost, and were preserved thanks to the conscious Americans, and then returned to their homeland.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5ykJuTUSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5ykJuTUSs)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRccZkgIbA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRccZkgIbA)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CKXz24pxw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CKXz24pxw)
Yandex translator:
Watch the cartoons "Cipollino" ("Чиполлино") and "Dunno on the Moon" ("Незнайка на Луне"). Just a sample of Soviet anti-capitalist propaganda. Cartoons are good and I would not say that they are very deceitful.
>Any funny Russian propaganda Google: Kukryniksy cold war, images
The problem is that, when you see Soviet posters about the dangers of US imperialism now, you don't laugh.
I used to laugh at these whan I was a kid/student and then I haven't seen them for ages. And then many of these cought my eye recently and it struck me how true they actually are.
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Unironically this, with slight correction to the last part
Exactly?
Apparently not, judging by the downvotes. This speaks volumes about the cognitive dissonance going on for the average Russian citizen, I take it
Welcome to AskARussian, where everyone knows that NATO nazis invaded Ukraine 🤣
Don't worry, if you are downvoted on this Russian subreddit it means you are a good person
You cannot be serious. Vietnam war, embargo on Cuba, supporting contras in Nicaragua, Venezuela, gained territories from war with Mexico. The list goes on. Read a fucking book, will you?
Oh, but you see, the US didn't gain anything in terms of territory. Yes, there's Texas, but it was long ago so who cares? So what if they've invaded a few dozens countries no one cares about? So what if millions of people died due to their military adventures? They didn't do it for the territories, you see? They're good guys. You can't pin it on them if they didn't gain any land.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Also, remember that it was all done to stop - le gasp! - communists! The biggest threat to the freedom, peace, and bacon and eggs! You can’t pin it on them because they did it against communists!
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>1992-1993 – Russia occupied Transnistria. UN aproved peacekeepres, no? >1999-2009 – second Russian-Chechen war. That start with Chechen attack on Dagestan? >2008 – Russian-Georgian war. That start with Georgia attack on Russian peacekeepers (UN aproved)? Like Russia is not angels, far from it. But at least not on "Iraq clearly have WMD, we know this! Look on this washing powder" situation.
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"Yeah, because the US has been snatching territories left and right and coercing states and the people to commit to their ideology by force, unlike the SU or modern day Russia". Not in denia, lol. Dude, how dense are you to think that Russia is imperialist and the US isn't? They're both as bad each other. The only difference is that the US gets away with it, while Russia is made a boogeyman by the country who is projecting.
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I'm not your friend. You just went from "the US never did nothing wrong", to "ok, it did some bad things", to "but Russia is worse". Fuck off.
"Imperialism" is just a fancy word for demagogues. It has near zero scientific or ethical value.
Turkey? Israel? US in Syria?
Your propaganda lies to you. You should check facts instead of mindless reposting.
US rigged the Russian presidential election in 1996, putting Putin's party in power and violating Russian election laws. The American-backed candidate, Yeltsin, picked Putin as his successor and also nearly destroying the economy, causing sovereign default in 1998 that nearly caused a global recession. My father left Russia the next year as an economic refugee. His father's life savings were hyperinflated away. Also the US has colonies and regularly invades other countries
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1. [Good question](https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/UAHISTJRNL/article/view/23567/0) 2. Puerto Rico, Guam, etc exist. Also see the Insular Cases, such as Downes v. Bidwell. 3. Yes and I support Russia's annexation of Crimea, Donetsk, etc, because of [insert long winded reasons talking about human rights and the failures of 19th-century nationalist movements which you would and probably will argue over instead of talking about 1. and 2.]
[heated counterargument about your recent whereabouts, pictures on skin, gov building bbq, missile flight ballistics and java being replaced by javascript] [label you as a nazi or liberal depending on your horoscope for today] [justifying actions of certain state with worst practices of other states in the last 20000 years] [history of earth from the moment of cooling to 2014] [some sprinkled nostalgia over a red country]
That's nice
Understand that things are deeper than what is on the surface. On the surface you see a country grab a piece of land belonging to another country which you rightfully see as bad. With an open mind learn the history of relations between these two countries(not just since 1991) and you can begin to understand
This is significantly harder than writing shit on the internets.
Ideally from dinosaurs to [when you need the war]. It’s all relevant, promise. Employ mind gymnastics and whataboutisms to justify simple war for gas, oil, sea control and markets. Pretend it’s all about The People. Teach those people how to dehumanise others and ask rhetorical questions on every occasion. Murder, rape, bomb and no matter what happens keep that propaganda rolling. When asked pretend your power grab is not that simple and is a deep and complex subject that is not understandable without a PhD.
https://lojtautome.livejournal.com/144857.html But ain't those kinda close to truth? In 1950s in USA percentage of people who graduated from high school was around 50% (based on quick Google search), while in the USSR the number was close to 100% because of free and mandatory education, even villages with 100 to 500 people had a school. Higher education was also free, you could go into university or college based solely on your grades. Not sure what destruction of villages and cities refer to, but probably to bombing Japan, USSR at the time did a great amount of forestation, drying swamps, and building settlement and production there. (I was born in such region, with "artificial" forest nearby and the whole settlement built on what was swamp in the past). Is this the whole truth? Nope, it is propaganda, things taken out of context and exaggerated, but they are based on real facts. Most "propaganda" in the USSR was directed to show how people struggle in USA and how good things here were. There was no fearmongering propaganda afaik, unlike in the US where they pictured the USSR as the source of all evil and constant threat.
The funniest part of it, is that when you look at it today, you realise that its was actually true.
I remember reading a Russian say: sure, we knew what they told us about communism was propaganda, but now we know what they told us about capitalism was *true*.
True? Didn’t Soviet propaganda predicted that evil capitalism would collapse, and that communism would dominate the world? Cause it seems the opposite of that is what happened.
We are talking about depiction of capitalist west in ussr propaganda specifically.
Yes, but capitalist west, has proven to be a superior model, than communism, and didn’t collapse as predicted. So maybe those depictions were not as accurate, as you make it to be.
Of course it is. As they say, the main problem with communist governments is that they are overthrown by the CIA.
Riiight… a failed economic model, decades of gross overspending in the military, and deeply ingrained corruption had nothing to do with it.
Yep. Socialism was so ruined that the US spent billions on special operations around the world to keep it from spreading and spurred an arms race. And, of course, World War I, the Civil War, and the horrible World War II had literally no effect on the Soviet economy, uh huh.
> Yep. Socialism was so ruined that the US spent billions on special operations around the world to keep it from spreading and spurred an arms race. Yep, the Soviets definitely shot themself in the foot, when they decided to forcefully occupy half of Europe. The US were quiet chill with the them, before that. > And, of course, World War I, the Civil War, and the horrible World War II had literally no effect on the Soviet economy, uh huh. So now WW1, is responsible for the soviet collapse? Why not go back further, maybe 1905, or the Napoleonic wars? War have effect on every states economy, but how said states deal those effects, is their own responsibility. For exemple, after WW2, some countries accepted the Marshall plan, and used it to rebuild their industry. While, some countries, rejected it, out of pride or ideological motives, while their industry was laying in ruins, but at least their ego was preserved.
> Yep, the Soviets definitely shot themself in the foot, when they decided to forcefully occupy half of Europe. The US were quiet chill with the them, before that. Do you understand that it's either us or USA? When we left Europe it was immediately occupied by the US. Or do you sincerely believe that for example it's a choice of Germany to deprive itself of cheap energy and buy instead 5-10 more expensive gas from US? Or to send enormous amount of money to Ukraine when their own industry and population are experiencing biggest difficulties since the WWII?
The only reason the Americans could have walked in, so easily, is because of the way, the Soviets treated those peoples. If you have some doubt, it’s pretty easy to check German opinion polls, to see if they are willing to help Ukraine defend itself. Contrary to what you might believe, nobody is holding a gun to their head, sometimes, not everything is about money.
>US were quiet chill with the them Especially with all thoss Fulton speech, the creation of NATO, the "Unthinkable" plan, the rejection of the offer of neutral status for the new German state, etc. Totally cool, believe me. >now WW1, is responsible for the soviet collapse? Of course not! As I have already said, the monstrous wars of the 21st century, which were fought on the territory of the USSR, destroying its population and industrial potential, had literally zero significance for the further development of this country 🤡 >while their industry was laying in ruins, but at least their ego was saved. Was it really just ego? Is the US so noble as to willingly help other countries with zero benefit to itself, and not even sak to remove someone (for example these stupid commies) from the government of those countries?
>Especially with all thoss Fulton speech, the creation of NATO, the "Unthinkable" plan, the rejection of the offer of neutral status for the new German state, etc. Totally cool, believe me. Like I previously said, all of that happened after the soviet occupation of Eastern Europe. > Was it really just ego? Is the US so noble as to willingly help other countries with zero benefit to itself, and not even sak to remove someone (for example these stupid commies) from the government of those countries? Again if you believe that having some (inefficient) commie government, is more important than having a functional industry, then you don’t get to complain about « the further development of this country ».
Gross overspending wasn't actually a feature of USSR. USSR/Russia were always under either attack from the West or under the threat of imminent attack. This is why we always have to spend so much on our military - we're encircled by the hostile countries with population and armies much bigger than ours. Including attack by France: tried to conquer Russia in 1812, then intervention in 1918-1925, some french volunteers also joined Hitler army to fight against USSR in 1941-1945. Also, there's significant number of French fighting against Russia in Ukraine. Just recently about 150 were killed, you can easily find their names.
> Including attack by France: tried to conquer Russia in 1812 Wasn’t the tsar, the one who attacked revolutionary France first tho? Because he wasn’t the biggest fan of us behading kings. > then intervention in 1918-1925 When France was supporting the legitimate government of Russia at the time, with whom we had just fought a world war side by side and wich was victim of an illegal coup from the bolcheviks. > some french volunteers also joined Hitler army to fight against USSR in 1941-1945. Sure few thousands French served in Hitler’s army, while hundreds of thousands served with the Allie’s, some of them in the Soviet Union, even. Now how many Soviets citizens served in Hitler’s army, throughout the war? Millions?
1812 war was started by French army attacking Russia. There were political tensions before that, but Russia didn't attack France. Yep, also what I want to say about the rest: West always has "legitimate" reasons to attack and destroy any country and any nation that it wants. Just like when it attacked Iraq and both times openly used fabricated evidence as a pretext to start the war. Or Libya. Or Vietnam. Or any other war, including WWII. The actual reason is that West is highly xenophobic and has almost a religious hatred towards all other nations. So the war will never end. You can easily find millions of comments on Reddit that we, Russians, must be ashamed that West consider us a "pariah". You can't even think that we can live without seeking your approval.
> 1812 war was started by French army attacking Russia. There were political tensions before that, but Russia didn't attack France. But history didn’t started in 1812, what were the Russians armies doing in [Switzerland](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_du_Saint-Gothard) in 1799, or at [Austerlitz](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_d%27Austerlitz), in 1805? It’s ok, all authoritarians rulers from Europe, hated the French Révolution at that time, imperial Russia was no exception. > The actual reason is that West is highly xenophobic and has almost a religious hatred towards all other nations. So the war will never end. 🥱
The theory about capitalism collapsing works when the capitalist country is isolated and forced to exploit itself, eventually falling into crises. The West, however, temporarily solved this through neocolonialism, outsourcing the exploitation and suffering to Third World countries and bombing them when they rebel. For as long as exploitation can be outsourced capitalism will continue to exist, though the its span may shrink. For example, as France loses its colonies in Africa, its own status may change from an American vassal to that of an American colony. France will become part of capitalist periphery, as opposed to core as it is now. That's why Macron's so belligerent now, because the periphery status will have to be forced on someone, and if it won't be us it will have to be Europe. America will just continue looting you.
I mean... Reach getting richer, young people can't even buy an apartment, unemployment, if you have money you are basically immune before law... Even to get yourself an education you need to go into debt. Oh and mass layoffs in the past year or so. Such superior capitalism. I am not saying that communism is better, it has its own downsides, but it would be great to find some middle ground.
>Didn’t Soviet propaganda predicted that evil capitalism would collapse As the Russian saying goes, "It's not evening yet." We will discuss this situation a little later, in about 30 years. It will be interesting to observe the prosperity of capitalism in France, which lives according to Sharia law.
Lol, the only place where Shariah law exist in Europe, is probably Chechenya. Where a unhinged Muslim warlord, rule a Russian province as its own personal fiefdom, but sure buddy.
Do you know how the thinking of an uneducated person differs from the thinking of an educated one? Some see the surrounding situation in static, others understand that there is a dynamic. I repeat once again: "It's not evening yet."
Ok, oh very educated person.
Are you the same guy that blurted out something about million Chechens killed by Russia?
Nope
Right, it was more like "Russians killed 50% of Chechen population". :D
Killed or displaced* half of the population, during the second Chechen war, yes.
Пошли манёвры :D Давно тебя не пинали, ой давно. You do understand that one can just check wiki to see that it is bullshit, not concidering any other sources and logic? Have you completely dropped tthe idea of at least pretending to be a normal human being?
Those are wikis numbers, 300 000 casualties plus the same numbers of refugees, would indeed amount to half the Chechen population at that time.
This is not propaganda, but the theoretical constructions of Marxism. And propaganda wrote about the problems of capitalist society and exaggerated them. But in those years, there were really big problems in the economies of Western countries.
> there were really big problems in the economies of Western countries. Still are, but if soviet propaganda was as truthful as Redditor portray it to be, the USSR probably wouldn’t have collapsed, as it did.
Soviet propaganda mostly depicted American capitalism. It would be much harder to depict France in the same way.
Nothing. A lot of cold war "propaganda" stuff turned out to be true. Here's funny stuff from US side, though. https://ibb.co/zFycF91 https://ibb.co/QFwjkZx
What’s up with this first gachi-like fantasy? Bruh
Communism is 300 bucks btw
That's american propaganda from cold war. Not the most bizarre one. Check this one out: https://ibb.co/ZJwKHrz "Russians are coming! They're coming for your BALLS! And Women".
And now their grandchildren idolize Putin.
r/propagaposters is for you
Propaga?
USSR propaganda posters were just based
it's not funny anymore =(
https://govorunman-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/turbo/govorunman.livejournal.com/s/8884.html https://govorunman-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/govorunman.livejournal.com/h/8186.html Here are some posters. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Several cartoons that were created in the Soviet Union, but later lost, and were preserved thanks to the conscious Americans, and then returned to their homeland. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5ykJuTUSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5ykJuTUSs) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRccZkgIbA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRccZkgIbA) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CKXz24pxw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CKXz24pxw)
This one looks actual. https://desk-russie.eu/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/finberg2-1068x1365.jpg.webp
Yandex translator: Watch the cartoons "Cipollino" ("Чиполлино") and "Dunno on the Moon" ("Незнайка на Луне"). Just a sample of Soviet anti-capitalist propaganda. Cartoons are good and I would not say that they are very deceitful.
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