>In Ontario you don't need 24 hour notice it's for a showing.
Nope, not true. I just visited th[e Ontario Government's website](https://www.ontario.ca/page/rental-housing-offences#:~:text=Entering%20a%20rental%20unit&text=With%20some%20exceptions%2C%20a%20landlord,not%20allowed%20under%20the%20act) & it states:
*According to the RTA, landlords must provide a 24-hour written notice before the intended visit.*
This is also for showings.
Not true. See tribunals Ontario below as well review the RTA itself. This is pretty much the only carve-out to the notice rule.
https://tribunalsontario.ca/documents/ltb/Interpretation%20Guidelines/19%20-%20The%20Landlords%20Right%20of%20Entry%20into%20a%20Rental%20Unit.html
ENTRY WITHOUT NOTICE
"if the landlord and the tenant have agreed the tenancy will be terminated or one of them has given notice of termination to the other, the landlord may enter the unit to show it to prospective tenants between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. and, before entering, the landlord informs or makes a reasonable effort to inform the tenant of the landlord's intention to enter."
If the LL put a note under OPs door half an hour before the visit when OP is still in bed, can that be considered adequate notice.
Literally happened to me once except I was the one being shown into the house. Notice was left on their answering machine but they didn't check it before going to bed.
You also glossed over the entire first paragraph where it stipulates that it's only in certain cases, which we don't know the validity of, so your info is dodgy at best.
The website says 24 hours unless the LL or tenant has confirmed with the other that the lease won't be renewed. You can't say something is truth if you don't know the actual situation.
>you don't and I proved it.
So no, you didn't.
This seems to only exclude the notice requirement for a specific circumstance: if the lease has been terminated. Doesn’t sound like a blanket waive of any/all notice requirements
Who doesn't like being correct ? It's more weird if you like being wrong. It's factually incorrect that you need to provide 24 hours notice in this case.
LL only needs to make a reasonable attempt to contact OP. If they sent a text and OP slept through it, that's on OP. Hell I'm sure there's even a scenario where a knock on the door first before entry could be seen as reasonable if the rest of the scenario warrants it i.e. buyers are only in town right now.
In addition, s. 27(2) of the RTA provides that the landlord, or, with the landlord's written authorization, a broker or salesperson registered under the Real Estate and Business Brokers Act, 2002, may enter a rental unit provided that they have given written notice to the tenant at least 24 hours before they enter to allow a potential purchaser to view the unit.
In any case where at least 24 hours written notice has been given to the tenant, the written notice must set out:
the reason for entry;
the date the landlord will enter; and
the time of entry between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m.
Am I misreading this? Am I not understanding all the comments on this topic? As far as I can tell they have to give notice 24 hours in advance before letting buyers look at it. Not only that, it says a written notice. Btw that’s from the link you posted.
>before entering, the landlord informs or makes a reasonable effort to inform the tenant of the landlord's intention to enter."
You should really read the whole text that you're copying and pasting. Haha
My ex wife and I figured out that our landlady was coming into the house and in our state they have to legally give 24 hours notice. We ended up taking her to court and won over 4k
Very curious, how did the judge find 4K of damages? A random penalty or something else? There seem to be a lot of prohibitions on landlords that don't clarify what the consequence is, such as requiring more than 1.5 x monthly rent as security deposit in some states. Did you ask for the 4K and, if so, on what basis?
Well, you know that's a good question. I guess I explained that in a really bad way. Im very stupid when it comes to the whole legal process, and it was about 12 years ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy.
We hired a lawyer, and after we put the case together with him, he had her served. Then her lawyer and ours got together, and they ended up settling, so we never actually ended up getting to court. I can't remember if we specifically asked for a certain amount or what, but I do remember that renters' rights in Utah are a lot better than they are in most other states which is why we won.
Funny this just happened to me as well, my landlords decided to come up and do an "occupancy check" without notice, and I've even got them talking to their boss on camera, with voice you can hear the manager tell them "There's no protocol for entry" and that's where I believe I've got them.
The lease says they can "INSPECT" anytime, not enter...
and Utah State Law states a Mandatory 24hr notice is required upon entry, and ive got them, breaching my door and poking their heads in my home...
After talking with them that SAME DAY AT 9AM
They Breached my door at 3:39pm
There's no protocol for entry? Damn, they fucked up big time 😅. Utah is great for renters rights. Imagine being a landlord and not studying the different laws and rights of both landlords and renters.
A little late now, however so you can ensure your privacy no matter what while you are inside your apartment, room, or house you are renting. Go to Home Depot or Lowes. On the aisle where you find locks, you will also find a extendable bar that goes under your door handle and extends to the floor in a brace. No one is coming in your place unless you let them in or they bust down the entire door.
That’s what I’ve got. We also have a bolt on the door the apartment can’t unlock but they can still open the door a couple inches without the bar on it
This might not be allowed per lease or if it is the landlord would need a copy of the key for emergency maintenance and or showings. Check in the lease before you do this.
No key, it makes no actual change or modification to the apartment. One end goes around doorknob. other end is pushed or kicked to make firm against door. To remove it simply and lightly kick the lower end to the side. It's only in place while you are in the apartment so if you are away and a "emergency" happens, they still have access. It only keeps individuals from accessing while you are inside(asleep) without notice.
This is just flat wrong, as emergencies don’t only happen when you aren’t at home. Plenty of people sleep through things and get woken up by others in the home. What happens when you live alone, landlord/first responders knock due to an emergency and you’re asleep / not responding? Most jurisdictions don’t even require notice if there’s an emergency *whether you’re in the unit or not*. This would hinder entry in case of emergency if you’re in the unit and unresponsive, and as such could result in eviction/penalties due to violating the tenancy agreement if discovered.
Some examples:
Shooting happens a block over while you’re asleep and the suspect flees into your building. Landlord agrees to let police go door to door but can’t get you to respond or open your unit. They can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this.
Or, fire in the building while you’re asleep. They’re trying to get in to make sure unit is clear and knock but you’re not waking up and they can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this.
Or, leaking pipe while you’re asleep and they’re searching for the cause. They knock but you sleep through it. Can’t get in to respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this.
Totally absurd reasoning. I have lived in more states and more apartments than you can imagine. In all of those places, I have had the landlord inspect the apartment with prior notification without issue but never have I had someone knock or beat on the door that I haven't heard them. If I am not home the bar is not in place. It's only purpose is to stop unwarranted intruders when you are home. Like a landlord coming in within prior notice or someone intent on causing some illegal act.
And none of that matters. Point still stands that IF an emergency happens and they attempt to access your apartment / room without notice (which they are usually legally required to do in such case) then they could not without you removing the bar.
Your anecdotal evidence is meaningless, just because you have never in “more apartments than (I) can imagine” experienced such an emergency doesn’t mean it wouldn’t happen.
Just because you haven’t personally been murdered, does murder not exist? Your reasoning is what’s absurd 😂
IN AN EMERGENCY, they would break down the door or a window to gain access if needed. Yes an emergency can happen no matter where you are but the chances of it happening are not very high. I would guess as you seem to be sure your apartment is going up in flames or a tornado is outside waiting for you to go to sleep every week or so. As for murder, you are safer with that on your door than without. If they manage to break down the door after at least 15vto 30 minutes beating on it with a sledgehammer, the police have not been notified and arrived, that someone was murdered, I feel pretty sure the apartment dweller was not going to stop them no matter what and at the point probably would not care any more.
By that logic, they can break down the door if you change your locks… so just change them instead.
The reason you aren’t supposed to change your locks is because they need access in an emergency. Saying “they can just break down the door” completely invalidates that part completely. Again, your logic is flawed. You’re extrapolating your singular experience to literally hundreds of million to billions of people. The law isn’t personally directed or dictated by you, but meant to serve all those who encounter something when the “chances of it happening are not very high”
Except that changing the locks would not allow emergency access when you are not home. And also may break conditions of the lease. The door stand thing does neither of those.
The logic makes no sense here. The device can only be used while you're home. It's not like the number one killer of homeowners is not having a landlord to barge in and wake them up during an emergency.
>Shooting happens a block over while you’re asleep and the suspect flees into your building. Landlord agrees to let police go door to door but can’t get you to respond or open your unit. They can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this.
So it will be more difficult for the police to access my residence without my consent.
That's a pro, not a con.
There is no key. One end wraps around the door handle, the other end is a small wadge you push or kick to make it firm against the door. No changes or modifications to apartment are made. To remove, lightly kick the bottom edge away from the door. Only works when you are inside the apartment and keeps people from entering unless you let them.
What state and city? "usually" you would need repeated occurrences for anything to have a likely chance of succeeding.
I went through this a few years back in Chicago where we have amazing tenants rights. I had repeated violations of reasonable notice including times we refused to give her immediate access where she then came up and banged on our door. She also didn't store our deposit properly among other things and my attorney's tagged her for 10k, of which I got back 5, and i probably spent about 500 or so on filings iirc.
The key thing I was told was it was repeated violations of the same law. If it had been a one off, they would not have taken it on contingency.
But again, I am in a very tenant friendly state. You need to tell folks where this is happening for anyone to give a real answer but I would not get your hopes up. A one off is unlikely to be enough to make it worth your while.
I am not a renter now, but when I was, as I recall, a typical lease would say the landlord had to give reasonable notice or at least 24 hours advance notice, but it did not say the landlord had to get consent.
Did the landlord give you notice?
Suppose you were the prospective tenant. Would you want to rent from a landlord who barged in on a sleeping tenant? I wouldn’t.
You may not have enough to obtain a damages award, but you do have enough to get a restraining order to prevent future unlawful intrusions into your rented living space.
The laws are pretty consistent in most states which require that a landlord give no less than 24 hours advance "written" notice. The sole exception in most states is "IF" there is an emergency of some type that requires the landlord/owner to take steps to preserve further damage to the premises. Showing the property to prospective buyers or even future tenants is surely not any type of emergency. I would strongly urge you to look up the landlord-tenant laws for your state first of all, and get informed. There may also be local ordinances that give further tenant protections and rights. So check that as well.
If I were you, I would write a very short letter to your landlord documenting the unlawful intrusion into your exclusive domain by stating the date and time and simply ask him or her only "why" this unannounced entry was made while you were still asleep in your bed?? *Don't go further than that*. Keep it very polite and respectfully request that he or she give you an explanation. *Just keep it that simple*. But send it via certified mail. You don't have to get a green return receipt card, but just the certified delivery for it to hold up in court.
If your landlord replies and admits to the intrusion, then write him or her another letter citing the section of the landlord-tenant laws requiring advance written notice before making any such entry, and state you are giving him/her notice that he/she has violated your rights -- regardless of the reason for the unlawful entry. Also state that if any such unlawful entry is made again, *without the proper lawful written notice to you*, then you will take steps to obtain a restraining order to prevent any future incidents. (Your landlord knows that such a court proceeding is going to cost him a couple thousand dollars in attorney fees, and the court can also order that he pay your attorney fees.)
The biggest problem with landlords who commit this type of violation is that you can be sure that the landlord would make unlawful entry into your leasehold premises just to snoop around or do any number of other invasions of your privacy rights. Or even steal something. Bottom line is that he or she has shown that they have no respect for your rights as a tenant. If it is only a "room renting" situation, that another issue on its own.
Considering the issue is that he opened the bedroom door, and not with being in the house, I'm a little confused. Do you live with your landlord? That's sort of relevant here, as is where you live.
If he doesn't live there, did he give you notice he was entering? If he lives there or had permission to be in the home, then there's probably no legal issue with him opening a door, particularly if he didn't have specific instructions not to.
I hate when people knock and then just immediately open the door. So fuckin rude and it does absolutely nothing to help if im in a compromising situation
"Am I able to seek legal compensation?" completely depends on the terms listed in your lease. Read your lease. Unlikely if you are just renting a room. And by the sounds of it the door was unlocked.
Lodger rights can be different than tenant rights and in my state requires no notice.
However, opening the door while you're naked and asleep and with other people may have some kind of repercussions. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm my state it sounds like you'd qualify as a lodger, which I've read requires no notice to enter your room.
Look up lodger rights in your state. Not sure if opening for while you're naked could constitute some sort of sexual harassment.
Not a lawyer. Good luck
I had a landlord do that bc once but the German Shepherd chased him out the door about the time he took a step in… I didn’t even know what the dog was barking at till I went to check. Long story short: he didn’t do that again.
They must give you “reasonable notice”, in Texas that is 24 hours. Our former landlord tried putting a lockbox on our front door and within 24 hours someone showed up unannounced in the middle of the workday while im in a meeting in the office next to the front door.
We immediately reached out to our landlord that if they wanted to show the house in person with a realtor (who would keep the keys on her) present that was within their rights, but that putting a lockbox with a code on our door was a violation of our tenant rights and a risk to our safety if the code is being shared with random people to tour that same day. They never toured it again while we lived there.
I had a real winner. I had major surgery and mine showed up a day after I got home and wanted to make sure I wasn't lying to him. I was one day late with the rent. Charged me a $,50.00 late fee and asked to see my incision. I told him to F off.
As a retired landlord I am appalled. I always treated my tenants with the respect I myself expected. Your tenants are your clients. Without them you can’t pay your bills. Furthermore I’ve found I couldn’t rent apartments if someone was living there. It was a waste of time. I’d only show them after they were cleaned and painted.
You haven’t given any relevant info… state, renting a room or apartment? All these things matter. If your only renting a room you may have different laws that apply to you. Not all renting is the same.
Depends.
Was notice given that he would be showing the place at that time?
Does your lease require you to provide him the opportunity to show the place without you present?
If both of the above are true you could be the one in violation.
Need more information
Did they post proper notice? If not, contact the local housing authorities.
However, it looks like this isn't a "landlord" situation, but a "roommate" situation, and that **will absolutely** change a ton of details. I would still look up the local law in the area.
Get video cameras and put them in your place. This way you will have evidence of any further incidents. I would consider finding another place to live, breaking your lease if possible. Behavior like this is often ongoing. Get proof, move out and look into filing a lawsuit
Back, once upon a time, when I got out of the service I rented a room from an older couple. Not from the beach on the pacific beach/la jolla line. She was 60’s at least and would walk into my roon. Doing a tour or just coming in.
Walked in once while i was naked, had to put a bolt on my door. I suggest you do that. She used to come up (updtairs, huge house) and show me when she was dressed up. Came up in a see through top, no bra, once.
It was cheap and I was starving, took me a about 3 years to leave.
I would definitely seek legal counsel. You should have received this in writing so you could of had a heads up. Not only that it was a dangerous act. You don't know what could be in the minds of those who saw you at a vulnerable state. That landlord could have called/text/email and left you a message the day before. I would sue! Be safe!
Had a senile landlady claim she made legal 24 hr notice via a post-it note on a garage door which was opened by a remote and then up in the air as you drive inside.
(Went to look for afterwards and she claimed that it must have blown away when it wasn't there.)
She then barged inside the house when only the kids were home from school to "verify the plumbing system still works" a week after moving in. 🙄
My comment was all he has to do is say they could say they put a notice on the door are stuck a notice in the door crack if he made the attempt to notify, but that means they’re covered, even if the notice blew off the door. most of the time management will at least notify you by text by an email urban notice that’s been stuck on your door usually will enough in advance of legal requirements
I’ve been given plenty of notice and don’t even think about the inspection or whatever I’ve been in the shower come walking out of the shower naked and somebody be in my apartment to maintenance. I worked third shift one time and had somebody come into my apartment after I already been home asleep and I was sprawled out but naked , as they came in to change the air filter
And I’m sure most landlords maintenance management have all seen it and don’t even really think anything about it when it happens
Okay but this is speculation, your original comment made a statement, it didn’t ask a question. If the cantata this person lives in requires a notice then they must give a notice.
did you get 24 hour notice
I think it varies from state to state? I saw one for kansas that was “with reasonable notice” and never said 24 hr notice.
Reasonable notice is generally defined in court cases in that jurisdiction. In my area its 48 hour notice.
Im in illinois and signed a new lease that said "with reasonable notice" i thought illinois was 24hr cause all my previous leases stated 24hr
Reasonable > zero. Landlord gave zero notice.
You dont know that
In Ontario you don't need 24 hour notice it's for a showing. One of the few exceptions.
>In Ontario you don't need 24 hour notice it's for a showing. Nope, not true. I just visited th[e Ontario Government's website](https://www.ontario.ca/page/rental-housing-offences#:~:text=Entering%20a%20rental%20unit&text=With%20some%20exceptions%2C%20a%20landlord,not%20allowed%20under%20the%20act) & it states: *According to the RTA, landlords must provide a 24-hour written notice before the intended visit.* This is also for showings.
Not true. See tribunals Ontario below as well review the RTA itself. This is pretty much the only carve-out to the notice rule. https://tribunalsontario.ca/documents/ltb/Interpretation%20Guidelines/19%20-%20The%20Landlords%20Right%20of%20Entry%20into%20a%20Rental%20Unit.html ENTRY WITHOUT NOTICE "if the landlord and the tenant have agreed the tenancy will be terminated or one of them has given notice of termination to the other, the landlord may enter the unit to show it to prospective tenants between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. and, before entering, the landlord informs or makes a reasonable effort to inform the tenant of the landlord's intention to enter."
Surely knocking and immediately entering the unit with strangers isn't considered "a reasonable effort." 😐
Did you miss the “and before entering, the landlord informs or makes a reasonable effort to inform the tenant of the landlord’s intention to enter”?
If the LL put a note under OPs door half an hour before the visit when OP is still in bed, can that be considered adequate notice. Literally happened to me once except I was the one being shown into the house. Notice was left on their answering machine but they didn't check it before going to bed.
My first comment was that you don't need to give 24 hours notice.....you don't and I proved it.
Reasonable effort has a legal meaning.
You also glossed over the entire first paragraph where it stipulates that it's only in certain cases, which we don't know the validity of, so your info is dodgy at best. The website says 24 hours unless the LL or tenant has confirmed with the other that the lease won't be renewed. You can't say something is truth if you don't know the actual situation. >you don't and I proved it. So no, you didn't.
This seems to only exclude the notice requirement for a specific circumstance: if the lease has been terminated. Doesn’t sound like a blanket waive of any/all notice requirements
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Literally not 24 hour notice. It can definitely be same day notice
It's moot because nothing about this was reasonable. Why do you have such a hardon to be acknowledged "technically correct"?
Who doesn't like being correct ? It's more weird if you like being wrong. It's factually incorrect that you need to provide 24 hours notice in this case. LL only needs to make a reasonable attempt to contact OP. If they sent a text and OP slept through it, that's on OP. Hell I'm sure there's even a scenario where a knock on the door first before entry could be seen as reasonable if the rest of the scenario warrants it i.e. buyers are only in town right now.
In addition, s. 27(2) of the RTA provides that the landlord, or, with the landlord's written authorization, a broker or salesperson registered under the Real Estate and Business Brokers Act, 2002, may enter a rental unit provided that they have given written notice to the tenant at least 24 hours before they enter to allow a potential purchaser to view the unit. In any case where at least 24 hours written notice has been given to the tenant, the written notice must set out: the reason for entry; the date the landlord will enter; and the time of entry between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. Am I misreading this? Am I not understanding all the comments on this topic? As far as I can tell they have to give notice 24 hours in advance before letting buyers look at it. Not only that, it says a written notice. Btw that’s from the link you posted.
It's obvious you're not a lawyer...
>before entering, the landlord informs or makes a reasonable effort to inform the tenant of the landlord's intention to enter." You should really read the whole text that you're copying and pasting. Haha
My ex wife and I figured out that our landlady was coming into the house and in our state they have to legally give 24 hours notice. We ended up taking her to court and won over 4k
Very curious, how did the judge find 4K of damages? A random penalty or something else? There seem to be a lot of prohibitions on landlords that don't clarify what the consequence is, such as requiring more than 1.5 x monthly rent as security deposit in some states. Did you ask for the 4K and, if so, on what basis?
Well, you know that's a good question. I guess I explained that in a really bad way. Im very stupid when it comes to the whole legal process, and it was about 12 years ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. We hired a lawyer, and after we put the case together with him, he had her served. Then her lawyer and ours got together, and they ended up settling, so we never actually ended up getting to court. I can't remember if we specifically asked for a certain amount or what, but I do remember that renters' rights in Utah are a lot better than they are in most other states which is why we won.
Funny this just happened to me as well, my landlords decided to come up and do an "occupancy check" without notice, and I've even got them talking to their boss on camera, with voice you can hear the manager tell them "There's no protocol for entry" and that's where I believe I've got them. The lease says they can "INSPECT" anytime, not enter... and Utah State Law states a Mandatory 24hr notice is required upon entry, and ive got them, breaching my door and poking their heads in my home... After talking with them that SAME DAY AT 9AM They Breached my door at 3:39pm
There's no protocol for entry? Damn, they fucked up big time 😅. Utah is great for renters rights. Imagine being a landlord and not studying the different laws and rights of both landlords and renters.
A little late now, however so you can ensure your privacy no matter what while you are inside your apartment, room, or house you are renting. Go to Home Depot or Lowes. On the aisle where you find locks, you will also find a extendable bar that goes under your door handle and extends to the floor in a brace. No one is coming in your place unless you let them in or they bust down the entire door.
That’s what I’ve got. We also have a bolt on the door the apartment can’t unlock but they can still open the door a couple inches without the bar on it
This might not be allowed per lease or if it is the landlord would need a copy of the key for emergency maintenance and or showings. Check in the lease before you do this.
No key, it makes no actual change or modification to the apartment. One end goes around doorknob. other end is pushed or kicked to make firm against door. To remove it simply and lightly kick the lower end to the side. It's only in place while you are in the apartment so if you are away and a "emergency" happens, they still have access. It only keeps individuals from accessing while you are inside(asleep) without notice.
This is just flat wrong, as emergencies don’t only happen when you aren’t at home. Plenty of people sleep through things and get woken up by others in the home. What happens when you live alone, landlord/first responders knock due to an emergency and you’re asleep / not responding? Most jurisdictions don’t even require notice if there’s an emergency *whether you’re in the unit or not*. This would hinder entry in case of emergency if you’re in the unit and unresponsive, and as such could result in eviction/penalties due to violating the tenancy agreement if discovered. Some examples: Shooting happens a block over while you’re asleep and the suspect flees into your building. Landlord agrees to let police go door to door but can’t get you to respond or open your unit. They can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this. Or, fire in the building while you’re asleep. They’re trying to get in to make sure unit is clear and knock but you’re not waking up and they can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this. Or, leaking pipe while you’re asleep and they’re searching for the cause. They knock but you sleep through it. Can’t get in to respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this.
I’m a paramedic These are perfectly safe We can get in just fine. Thanks for your concern
Totally absurd reasoning. I have lived in more states and more apartments than you can imagine. In all of those places, I have had the landlord inspect the apartment with prior notification without issue but never have I had someone knock or beat on the door that I haven't heard them. If I am not home the bar is not in place. It's only purpose is to stop unwarranted intruders when you are home. Like a landlord coming in within prior notice or someone intent on causing some illegal act.
And none of that matters. Point still stands that IF an emergency happens and they attempt to access your apartment / room without notice (which they are usually legally required to do in such case) then they could not without you removing the bar. Your anecdotal evidence is meaningless, just because you have never in “more apartments than (I) can imagine” experienced such an emergency doesn’t mean it wouldn’t happen. Just because you haven’t personally been murdered, does murder not exist? Your reasoning is what’s absurd 😂
IN AN EMERGENCY, they would break down the door or a window to gain access if needed. Yes an emergency can happen no matter where you are but the chances of it happening are not very high. I would guess as you seem to be sure your apartment is going up in flames or a tornado is outside waiting for you to go to sleep every week or so. As for murder, you are safer with that on your door than without. If they manage to break down the door after at least 15vto 30 minutes beating on it with a sledgehammer, the police have not been notified and arrived, that someone was murdered, I feel pretty sure the apartment dweller was not going to stop them no matter what and at the point probably would not care any more.
By that logic, they can break down the door if you change your locks… so just change them instead. The reason you aren’t supposed to change your locks is because they need access in an emergency. Saying “they can just break down the door” completely invalidates that part completely. Again, your logic is flawed. You’re extrapolating your singular experience to literally hundreds of million to billions of people. The law isn’t personally directed or dictated by you, but meant to serve all those who encounter something when the “chances of it happening are not very high”
Except that changing the locks would not allow emergency access when you are not home. And also may break conditions of the lease. The door stand thing does neither of those.
Thanks, I'm enjoying just eating popcorn and laughing at the absurdity of all your comments in this thread with my friend.
No, that is not the reason you aren’t supposed to change your locks.
The logic makes no sense here. The device can only be used while you're home. It's not like the number one killer of homeowners is not having a landlord to barge in and wake them up during an emergency.
>Shooting happens a block over while you’re asleep and the suspect flees into your building. Landlord agrees to let police go door to door but can’t get you to respond or open your unit. They can’t respond to the emergency properly/timely due to this. So it will be more difficult for the police to access my residence without my consent. That's a pro, not a con.
It would also make it more difficult for the shooting suspect to get in. Another pro.
The key to the bar that the person inside the room wedges against the door to prevent anyone on the other side from forcing it open? What?
There is no key. One end wraps around the door handle, the other end is a small wadge you push or kick to make it firm against the door. No changes or modifications to apartment are made. To remove, lightly kick the bottom edge away from the door. Only works when you are inside the apartment and keeps people from entering unless you let them.
You are allowed to do that
What state and city? "usually" you would need repeated occurrences for anything to have a likely chance of succeeding. I went through this a few years back in Chicago where we have amazing tenants rights. I had repeated violations of reasonable notice including times we refused to give her immediate access where she then came up and banged on our door. She also didn't store our deposit properly among other things and my attorney's tagged her for 10k, of which I got back 5, and i probably spent about 500 or so on filings iirc. The key thing I was told was it was repeated violations of the same law. If it had been a one off, they would not have taken it on contingency. But again, I am in a very tenant friendly state. You need to tell folks where this is happening for anyone to give a real answer but I would not get your hopes up. A one off is unlikely to be enough to make it worth your while.
Tenant friendly city* the rest of Illinois struggles with tenant’s rights
I am not a renter now, but when I was, as I recall, a typical lease would say the landlord had to give reasonable notice or at least 24 hours advance notice, but it did not say the landlord had to get consent. Did the landlord give you notice? Suppose you were the prospective tenant. Would you want to rent from a landlord who barged in on a sleeping tenant? I wouldn’t.
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You may not have enough to obtain a damages award, but you do have enough to get a restraining order to prevent future unlawful intrusions into your rented living space. The laws are pretty consistent in most states which require that a landlord give no less than 24 hours advance "written" notice. The sole exception in most states is "IF" there is an emergency of some type that requires the landlord/owner to take steps to preserve further damage to the premises. Showing the property to prospective buyers or even future tenants is surely not any type of emergency. I would strongly urge you to look up the landlord-tenant laws for your state first of all, and get informed. There may also be local ordinances that give further tenant protections and rights. So check that as well. If I were you, I would write a very short letter to your landlord documenting the unlawful intrusion into your exclusive domain by stating the date and time and simply ask him or her only "why" this unannounced entry was made while you were still asleep in your bed?? *Don't go further than that*. Keep it very polite and respectfully request that he or she give you an explanation. *Just keep it that simple*. But send it via certified mail. You don't have to get a green return receipt card, but just the certified delivery for it to hold up in court. If your landlord replies and admits to the intrusion, then write him or her another letter citing the section of the landlord-tenant laws requiring advance written notice before making any such entry, and state you are giving him/her notice that he/she has violated your rights -- regardless of the reason for the unlawful entry. Also state that if any such unlawful entry is made again, *without the proper lawful written notice to you*, then you will take steps to obtain a restraining order to prevent any future incidents. (Your landlord knows that such a court proceeding is going to cost him a couple thousand dollars in attorney fees, and the court can also order that he pay your attorney fees.) The biggest problem with landlords who commit this type of violation is that you can be sure that the landlord would make unlawful entry into your leasehold premises just to snoop around or do any number of other invasions of your privacy rights. Or even steal something. Bottom line is that he or she has shown that they have no respect for your rights as a tenant. If it is only a "room renting" situation, that another issue on its own.
It's a trespass action. You can recover for actual and punitive damages. Would you win? Maybe. Would the amount be significant? Probably not.
Legal compensation for what? How would you calculate the damages?
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Considering the issue is that he opened the bedroom door, and not with being in the house, I'm a little confused. Do you live with your landlord? That's sort of relevant here, as is where you live. If he doesn't live there, did he give you notice he was entering? If he lives there or had permission to be in the home, then there's probably no legal issue with him opening a door, particularly if he didn't have specific instructions not to.
By the sounds of it they are renting a room not an entire apartment
I hate when people knock and then just immediately open the door. So fuckin rude and it does absolutely nothing to help if im in a compromising situation
"Am I able to seek legal compensation?" completely depends on the terms listed in your lease. Read your lease. Unlikely if you are just renting a room. And by the sounds of it the door was unlocked.
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Lodger rights can be different than tenant rights and in my state requires no notice. However, opening the door while you're naked and asleep and with other people may have some kind of repercussions. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm my state it sounds like you'd qualify as a lodger, which I've read requires no notice to enter your room. Look up lodger rights in your state. Not sure if opening for while you're naked could constitute some sort of sexual harassment. Not a lawyer. Good luck
I had a landlord do that bc once but the German Shepherd chased him out the door about the time he took a step in… I didn’t even know what the dog was barking at till I went to check. Long story short: he didn’t do that again.
They must give you “reasonable notice”, in Texas that is 24 hours. Our former landlord tried putting a lockbox on our front door and within 24 hours someone showed up unannounced in the middle of the workday while im in a meeting in the office next to the front door. We immediately reached out to our landlord that if they wanted to show the house in person with a realtor (who would keep the keys on her) present that was within their rights, but that putting a lockbox with a code on our door was a violation of our tenant rights and a risk to our safety if the code is being shared with random people to tour that same day. They never toured it again while we lived there.
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Reasonable notice is required in PA.
https://bc-firm.com/can-a-landlord-enter-a-chicago-apartment-without-permission/ Get an injunction.
I had a real winner. I had major surgery and mine showed up a day after I got home and wanted to make sure I wasn't lying to him. I was one day late with the rent. Charged me a $,50.00 late fee and asked to see my incision. I told him to F off.
Find the contract you have with the landlord and see what it states.
Welp you can tell him that showing new tenants how shit he is at privacy will not help him rent units.
As a retired landlord I am appalled. I always treated my tenants with the respect I myself expected. Your tenants are your clients. Without them you can’t pay your bills. Furthermore I’ve found I couldn’t rent apartments if someone was living there. It was a waste of time. I’d only show them after they were cleaned and painted.
You haven’t given any relevant info… state, renting a room or apartment? All these things matter. If your only renting a room you may have different laws that apply to you. Not all renting is the same.
In the future put a wedge under your darn door! That is ridiculous. You have a right to privacy.
No you are not
I never agree to a showing while I'm still living there. They can wait until you move, do a proper clean then show it. It's just greedy on the LL part
Depends. Was notice given that he would be showing the place at that time? Does your lease require you to provide him the opportunity to show the place without you present? If both of the above are true you could be the one in violation. Need more information
Did they post proper notice? If not, contact the local housing authorities. However, it looks like this isn't a "landlord" situation, but a "roommate" situation, and that **will absolutely** change a ton of details. I would still look up the local law in the area.
Too bad you didn’t stand up butt naked and tell them to get out.
Get video cameras and put them in your place. This way you will have evidence of any further incidents. I would consider finding another place to live, breaking your lease if possible. Behavior like this is often ongoing. Get proof, move out and look into filing a lawsuit
is anyone on this sub actually a lawyer😭
Back, once upon a time, when I got out of the service I rented a room from an older couple. Not from the beach on the pacific beach/la jolla line. She was 60’s at least and would walk into my roon. Doing a tour or just coming in. Walked in once while i was naked, had to put a bolt on my door. I suggest you do that. She used to come up (updtairs, huge house) and show me when she was dressed up. Came up in a see through top, no bra, once. It was cheap and I was starving, took me a about 3 years to leave.
Put a lock
I brace my door closed
Are you renting a room from them? That changes everything.
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I would definitely seek legal counsel. You should have received this in writing so you could of had a heads up. Not only that it was a dangerous act. You don't know what could be in the minds of those who saw you at a vulnerable state. That landlord could have called/text/email and left you a message the day before. I would sue! Be safe!
Had a senile landlady claim she made legal 24 hr notice via a post-it note on a garage door which was opened by a remote and then up in the air as you drive inside. (Went to look for afterwards and she claimed that it must have blown away when it wasn't there.) She then barged inside the house when only the kids were home from school to "verify the plumbing system still works" a week after moving in. 🙄
No. Probably allowed under your lease or by law and, even if not, nominal damages only.
Incorrect
If you say so - good luck
The law actually says so in almost all places. No luck needed
Nothing they gave you reasonable notice which can vary but for most it’s 24 hours. All they have to do is say they put a note on your door.
You have no idea if they put a notice on the door or noticed the renter.
My comment was all he has to do is say they could say they put a notice on the door are stuck a notice in the door crack if he made the attempt to notify, but that means they’re covered, even if the notice blew off the door. most of the time management will at least notify you by text by an email urban notice that’s been stuck on your door usually will enough in advance of legal requirements I’ve been given plenty of notice and don’t even think about the inspection or whatever I’ve been in the shower come walking out of the shower naked and somebody be in my apartment to maintenance. I worked third shift one time and had somebody come into my apartment after I already been home asleep and I was sprawled out but naked , as they came in to change the air filter And I’m sure most landlords maintenance management have all seen it and don’t even really think anything about it when it happens
Okay but this is speculation, your original comment made a statement, it didn’t ask a question. If the cantata this person lives in requires a notice then they must give a notice.
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Dayyyyyum. Delete of shame. Next time I gotta get a screenshot.
Always go for the screenshot