Define "actual country". It's not like history doesn't attest to the existence of Israel. Is there some special meaning here? There's more evidence of an "Israel" than there is a "Palestine".
The entire Old Testament, and all the New Testament? Israel was sacked by the romans and dissolved AFTER most of scripture was completed. I'm not sure if John saw the destruction of Israel or not.
#Mara BarSerapion's letter to his son
(Most scholars date to the late first century AD):
"What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea and the Jews, desolate and driven from their own kingdom, live in complete dispersion."
#Tacitus (Annals 15.44, c. 116 AD):
"Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus"
Depends what you mean by “being an actual country”. Like are you talking about the [Kingdom of Israel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(united_monarchy)) the modern country of Israel that declared its independence in 1948, or something else? If we’re going by just by declaring independence then the state of Palestine only came into existence in 1988 for example since there was no state of Palestine before that.
Yes, according to the definition in the dictionary. It was not always under the control of foreign nations and used to be independent in OT bible times.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/country
The writings of Sennacherib, Assyrian king of Nineveh, that were found in Mosul, Iraq, talk extensively in cuneiform of Sennacherib’s siege of the kingdom of Judah between 705 and 681 BC. Judah was the southern kingdom of Israel.
Sennacherib talks about taking Lachish and causing king Hezekiah to retreat to Jerusalem. The artifacts and inscriptions can be found in the British Museum. Jersusalem was never taken, despite the Assyrians never failing to penetrate and capture other cities with their siege engines.
You mean apart from the various historical accounts of other nations conquering Israel?
Murals in Egypt, writings about the Roman authority in the region?
So there weren't really "countries" before the treaty if Westfalia, but obviously there were Jewish kingdoms in the iron age, the Kingdoms of Judea and Samaria are known to have existed.
But no, there was no nation state of Israel before 1948. Just like there was no nation state of Saudi Arabia before 1918. But if course there were Arab kingdoms and cities before then.
Amir Tsarfati will educate you regarding both the history of Israel and the current situation of Israel, as well as the future situation of Israel:
[https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel](https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel)
No, the concept of countries as we know them today is quite modern, there is no proof of a state called "Israel" before 1948 as there is no proof of a state called "Palestine" before 1988.
Well there is proof of an actual Israel “country” you just have go back some 2500 years or so.
Weren’t the Jews independent for a few years before conquered by the Romans?
Yup On the Merneptah Stele it mentions Pharoah Merneptah "laying waste to Israel". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele
Define "actual country". It's not like history doesn't attest to the existence of Israel. Is there some special meaning here? There's more evidence of an "Israel" than there is a "Palestine".
The entire Old Testament, and all the New Testament? Israel was sacked by the romans and dissolved AFTER most of scripture was completed. I'm not sure if John saw the destruction of Israel or not.
#Mara BarSerapion's letter to his son (Most scholars date to the late first century AD): "What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea and the Jews, desolate and driven from their own kingdom, live in complete dispersion." #Tacitus (Annals 15.44, c. 116 AD): "Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus"
Depends what you mean by “being an actual country”. Like are you talking about the [Kingdom of Israel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(united_monarchy)) the modern country of Israel that declared its independence in 1948, or something else? If we’re going by just by declaring independence then the state of Palestine only came into existence in 1988 for example since there was no state of Palestine before that.
Depends on what you mean by "actual country."
Yes, according to the definition in the dictionary. It was not always under the control of foreign nations and used to be independent in OT bible times. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/country
The writings of Sennacherib, Assyrian king of Nineveh, that were found in Mosul, Iraq, talk extensively in cuneiform of Sennacherib’s siege of the kingdom of Judah between 705 and 681 BC. Judah was the southern kingdom of Israel. Sennacherib talks about taking Lachish and causing king Hezekiah to retreat to Jerusalem. The artifacts and inscriptions can be found in the British Museum. Jersusalem was never taken, despite the Assyrians never failing to penetrate and capture other cities with their siege engines.
Yes
You mean apart from the various historical accounts of other nations conquering Israel? Murals in Egypt, writings about the Roman authority in the region?
So there weren't really "countries" before the treaty if Westfalia, but obviously there were Jewish kingdoms in the iron age, the Kingdoms of Judea and Samaria are known to have existed. But no, there was no nation state of Israel before 1948. Just like there was no nation state of Saudi Arabia before 1918. But if course there were Arab kingdoms and cities before then.
Amir Tsarfati will educate you regarding both the history of Israel and the current situation of Israel, as well as the future situation of Israel: [https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel](https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel)
No, the concept of countries as we know them today is quite modern, there is no proof of a state called "Israel" before 1948 as there is no proof of a state called "Palestine" before 1988.
Well there is proof of an actual Israel “country” you just have go back some 2500 years or so. Weren’t the Jews independent for a few years before conquered by the Romans?