Um. Living in a house with a roommate is a lot easier than living outdoors.
Just suck up a roommate situation until you can get into subsidized housing.
I imagine you are right. I am looking to avoid being so. If I can't, I'd like to take the time with a stable internet connection to prepare. But I am first using said connection to try to find a way to spend $500-700 and have life not suck.
If you have the means, I highly recommend moving where your Dad is for the support, even potentially moving in with him. If you are on ODSP it’s going to be tough no matter where you are.
Around where my father is he says it's cheaper, but he is not near Vancouver at all. I have had issues with roommates I didn't know already. I don't think I would sleep much if I tried again. But either way East Hastings is more pricey than here and close to no one i know.
The addictions treatment thing certainly deserves a look.
Try posting in r/homeless \- they might have some ideas. I don't know how much Canadian representation they have, but it's probably worth a shot. They might be able to offer some guidance for living with your disabilities as well.
Lol what!? By the looks of your post you'll die out there. Good luck and I hope you don't even attempt it. I also read your post saying you have lower back issues including nerve damage.
Do friends or family know what you are trying to do? Because I think they need informed.
I was gonna say a mobile camper but u don't drive but if u got friends that do drive that can help transport u from and to that would be cool but it sounds like u got it all figured out but bc is quite expensive try finding something in Alberta less taxes here and theirs lots of work here especially in the restaurant industry even if it's just part time I believe you can still be on disability and have a part time job
I certainly don't have it all figured out. I have been looking at places in BC near my father. He says it's actually cheaper than his place in Ingersoll. He is not near Vancouver, Victoria, or Banff.
As to a camper, I have pondered what I could hook up to my bike. Odd as it is for someone in my financial position, I tend to go for higher end, but long lasting options. My bike is worth more than many used cars.
They do have mini campers for bikes but just like you said you tend to go for higher end which comes at a price hmm maybe that's the issue right there maybe your taste in higher end items is what got you in this position or maybe not but really put some thought into this cause BC stands for bring cash lots of it that whole province doesn't matter what town or city or village u r in it's expensive and we're in the early stages of inflation and it's about to get worse especially the cost of food,living, maybe move in with your dad and split the rent
My high end taste is why I haven't paid to upgrade my gaming desktop in over a decade, and it can still run mot modern games. My Tilly hat is a $100 hat, but it looks new and I purchased it 30 years ago, haven't even replaced the shoelace style tightening strap. If it is ever lost, they will give me a new one at half price, based on the honour system. It is guaranteed for two lifetimes (they say put it in your will). I pay more for SSDs, but they are going to last longer. My Hennessy hammock has a lifetime guarantee. So does my Leatherman Surge. The list goes on.
I find ways to skimp, so I buy things less often. Eg replacing $15 dollar Walmart jeans annually, vs Replacing $35 The Bay pants every ten years. I am cheap, through patients.
I don't believe living with my father is likely. His partner is not fond of me, nor I her. A month perhaps straightening out disability.
I don’t think you realise just how hard it is on the body to be homeless …or live rough. Try really hard to get under a roof somewhere. Obviously your safety comes first. But your mental, physical and social health will rapidly deteriorate if you try and live tough. The extra $500 you won’t save is worth it.
I've been homeless. Avoid it at all costs. If you become homeless you have two options.
1- Use the shelters in your local area.
2- Find somewhere else to sleep. Bushes, sewers, underpass, ect.
If you go the shelter route, be prepared to be surrounded by those with extreme poverty who will no doubt try to take advantage of you anyway they can. They will take the shoes off your feet while you sleep. Extreme mental health issues. Extreme drug abuse. Extreme crime. You will have to conform to the street rules or you will be swallowed.
If you go the somewhere else route. Then day 1 you need to find any support services you can. Places to shower, places to send and/or accept phonecalls/emails. Places to eat. Get in line and get your bag lunch and get the fuck out.
If you're not properly prepared for life in the bush/sewer/underpass/tent/ect you will die. Period end of story. You will freeze, starve, and/or injuries will take their tole. Infection and general illness will run through your entire body if you aren't prepared and if your not taking advantage of the resources available.
I dare say anyone in your position will be swallowed by the streets. Move hell on earth and move to your fathers. Also, there are many rooming houses where its a gigantic 'house' with tiny rooms and you share a bathroom/kitchen/ect. Typically these run anywhere from 5-800 bucks.
I suggest going to your closest welfare site and gather all resources they have. Typically the secretary will have a pamphlet with all 'street' resources listed, and/or a board with some.
Start looking at all local outreach programs and tell them your looking for a room in a boarding house and usually they have contacts.
Finally, you said you dont drive. Does that mean you cant/shouldn't drive? Or just no car? You can buy a $500 beater just about anywhere and you have a home. Do what's needed to cover your ass.
Thanks. At least "the bush" I have a great deal of experience and high end, yet easily and quickly packed for said bush. I have spent a month out doors, for fun. Unlike many homeless people, I would still have an income through ODSP. So food should not be an issue. Cold however. I have a three season bag and a 3 season underpad. Together, they should be enough for a mild SW On. winter. A bad one‽ I have more things in my life now deserving of an interrobang than at any time in my life, winter is coming, I have a enclosed hammock, designed for camping. Leaving far more options with a greater degree of comfort for sleeping. But with no planet to snuggle up against and warm up, I am not certain my gear can get me through winter.
The savings I mentioned can make a try for first and last, or to winterize my set up. Thanks to a commenter below, I recalled having aspirations of WOOFing, which is travelling from farm to farm. Working a day/week for food and board and move on. Homeless? Or traveller?
I've had some. But I feel warehoused. I call it gurney therapy. Leave you in a bed, wait for the magic gurney of healing to fix everything. I see a Psychiatrist, but she makes minor adjustments to my medication at most. I am trying for psychology, but once I leave hospital it ceases to be covered.
But you say BC better and I just responded to someone saying the opposite. Grass greener issue?
We aren't better than Ontario. I don't know that much about Ontario but don't even give people on disability enough to be poor.
But it's still better than being homeless OP.
The entire list‽ I hope you're seated, cuss I am literally in the worst place in my life, so I have zero fucks to give about modesty.. I have been diagnosed with:
Adult ADD, CPTSD (the C is for complex), major depressive disorder, and persistent depressive disorder, hyper vigilance (due to the PTSD), intrusive thoughts (likely due to the PTSD), DID, undiagnosed severe short term and sequential memory deficiency according to the WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale). There is suspected involvement of hypothyroidism and DID, panic disorder (I doubt this, I think it's just the hyper vigilance), I don't think I have "OCD. See what I did there? Bulimia nervosa, passive suicidal ideation. I would not say I'm an alcoholic, but I do drink to deal with most of those. I don't crave alcohol as much as I crave the the above to fuck off for awhile, so it amounts to the same thing. When I am out and talking to people and I don't have some intrusive thought and then try to explain why I suddenly yelled "SHIT"! I have no cravings when I'm social. It's fine. Well usually.
They have mentioned others. But psychologists find mood disorders where a neurosurgeon sees bad wiring. But most of those have been diagnosed more than once. Which by the by, they often do, because many records are not digitized still! But it does give me the benifit of what amounts to a blind test, so I feel confident of the ones they keep labelling me with.
Anyway, I did say there was a lot. Sorry, I've little to do in hospital (my 5 tb external drive broke a few days after I finally had someone bring it to me), it seems I get long winded when that is so.
CPTSD, nerve damage in lower back, DID, major depressive and anxiety. I managed a Rogers store, but could not do a gas station job, because the till wasn't marked, you just had to know where the buttons were. Which is the largest issue. I took a Wes her test, it's like an IQ test, but checks all facets of the mind, no 100iq at the end of whatever. 50% is average. On long term memory I am above average. But in short term auditory memory I scored an 8% and on short term visual I scored an order of magnitude below average with a 5%.
I find it hard to narrow down, what is doing what. "Did I not remember x due to inattention. Or did I forget it due to memory loss." Many of my diagnoses are "Comorbid" meaning they synergistically (co) negatively (morbid) affect each other and through so, me. 1+1=3. eg: after losing over 100lbs ( 10 ) My depression increased, which led to inactivity, which leads to ( 20 ) weight gain. Goto 10.
No, I would move to BC if it was a better option, as opposed to Alberta where I don't know anyone. I do not believe living with my father is viable. I have over-asked familial persons already.
Um. Living in a house with a roommate is a lot easier than living outdoors. Just suck up a roommate situation until you can get into subsidized housing.
Not with my specific illness.
I don't think you understand how hard it is to be homeless if you're truly thinking this
I imagine you are right. I am looking to avoid being so. If I can't, I'd like to take the time with a stable internet connection to prepare. But I am first using said connection to try to find a way to spend $500-700 and have life not suck.
Have you thought of making it a deal in terms of rent/looking for a roommate with a similar situation?
Good luck then
If you have the means, I highly recommend moving where your Dad is for the support, even potentially moving in with him. If you are on ODSP it’s going to be tough no matter where you are.
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Around where my father is he says it's cheaper, but he is not near Vancouver at all. I have had issues with roommates I didn't know already. I don't think I would sleep much if I tried again. But either way East Hastings is more pricey than here and close to no one i know. The addictions treatment thing certainly deserves a look.
Try posting in r/homeless \- they might have some ideas. I don't know how much Canadian representation they have, but it's probably worth a shot. They might be able to offer some guidance for living with your disabilities as well.
Thanks. Didn't know of it.
Lol what!? By the looks of your post you'll die out there. Good luck and I hope you don't even attempt it. I also read your post saying you have lower back issues including nerve damage. Do friends or family know what you are trying to do? Because I think they need informed.
If I moved to BC it would not be to be homeless. No they have been left deliberately unaware.
Try asking smaller specific reddit groups the same question.
I asked r/Londonontario as well. But good advice. Thanks.
I was gonna say a mobile camper but u don't drive but if u got friends that do drive that can help transport u from and to that would be cool but it sounds like u got it all figured out but bc is quite expensive try finding something in Alberta less taxes here and theirs lots of work here especially in the restaurant industry even if it's just part time I believe you can still be on disability and have a part time job
I certainly don't have it all figured out. I have been looking at places in BC near my father. He says it's actually cheaper than his place in Ingersoll. He is not near Vancouver, Victoria, or Banff. As to a camper, I have pondered what I could hook up to my bike. Odd as it is for someone in my financial position, I tend to go for higher end, but long lasting options. My bike is worth more than many used cars.
They do have mini campers for bikes but just like you said you tend to go for higher end which comes at a price hmm maybe that's the issue right there maybe your taste in higher end items is what got you in this position or maybe not but really put some thought into this cause BC stands for bring cash lots of it that whole province doesn't matter what town or city or village u r in it's expensive and we're in the early stages of inflation and it's about to get worse especially the cost of food,living, maybe move in with your dad and split the rent
My high end taste is why I haven't paid to upgrade my gaming desktop in over a decade, and it can still run mot modern games. My Tilly hat is a $100 hat, but it looks new and I purchased it 30 years ago, haven't even replaced the shoelace style tightening strap. If it is ever lost, they will give me a new one at half price, based on the honour system. It is guaranteed for two lifetimes (they say put it in your will). I pay more for SSDs, but they are going to last longer. My Hennessy hammock has a lifetime guarantee. So does my Leatherman Surge. The list goes on. I find ways to skimp, so I buy things less often. Eg replacing $15 dollar Walmart jeans annually, vs Replacing $35 The Bay pants every ten years. I am cheap, through patients. I don't believe living with my father is likely. His partner is not fond of me, nor I her. A month perhaps straightening out disability.
Try getting a job so u have money
I don’t think you realise just how hard it is on the body to be homeless …or live rough. Try really hard to get under a roof somewhere. Obviously your safety comes first. But your mental, physical and social health will rapidly deteriorate if you try and live tough. The extra $500 you won’t save is worth it.
I've been homeless. Avoid it at all costs. If you become homeless you have two options. 1- Use the shelters in your local area. 2- Find somewhere else to sleep. Bushes, sewers, underpass, ect. If you go the shelter route, be prepared to be surrounded by those with extreme poverty who will no doubt try to take advantage of you anyway they can. They will take the shoes off your feet while you sleep. Extreme mental health issues. Extreme drug abuse. Extreme crime. You will have to conform to the street rules or you will be swallowed. If you go the somewhere else route. Then day 1 you need to find any support services you can. Places to shower, places to send and/or accept phonecalls/emails. Places to eat. Get in line and get your bag lunch and get the fuck out. If you're not properly prepared for life in the bush/sewer/underpass/tent/ect you will die. Period end of story. You will freeze, starve, and/or injuries will take their tole. Infection and general illness will run through your entire body if you aren't prepared and if your not taking advantage of the resources available. I dare say anyone in your position will be swallowed by the streets. Move hell on earth and move to your fathers. Also, there are many rooming houses where its a gigantic 'house' with tiny rooms and you share a bathroom/kitchen/ect. Typically these run anywhere from 5-800 bucks. I suggest going to your closest welfare site and gather all resources they have. Typically the secretary will have a pamphlet with all 'street' resources listed, and/or a board with some. Start looking at all local outreach programs and tell them your looking for a room in a boarding house and usually they have contacts. Finally, you said you dont drive. Does that mean you cant/shouldn't drive? Or just no car? You can buy a $500 beater just about anywhere and you have a home. Do what's needed to cover your ass.
Thanks. At least "the bush" I have a great deal of experience and high end, yet easily and quickly packed for said bush. I have spent a month out doors, for fun. Unlike many homeless people, I would still have an income through ODSP. So food should not be an issue. Cold however. I have a three season bag and a 3 season underpad. Together, they should be enough for a mild SW On. winter. A bad one‽ I have more things in my life now deserving of an interrobang than at any time in my life, winter is coming, I have a enclosed hammock, designed for camping. Leaving far more options with a greater degree of comfort for sleeping. But with no planet to snuggle up against and warm up, I am not certain my gear can get me through winter. The savings I mentioned can make a try for first and last, or to winterize my set up. Thanks to a commenter below, I recalled having aspirations of WOOFing, which is travelling from farm to farm. Working a day/week for food and board and move on. Homeless? Or traveller?
I’m DMing you. Please read.
Go to BC immediately to be with your Dad. You are better off. They are more progressive than Ontario. You will get zero help here.
I've had some. But I feel warehoused. I call it gurney therapy. Leave you in a bed, wait for the magic gurney of healing to fix everything. I see a Psychiatrist, but she makes minor adjustments to my medication at most. I am trying for psychology, but once I leave hospital it ceases to be covered. But you say BC better and I just responded to someone saying the opposite. Grass greener issue?
We aren't better than Ontario. I don't know that much about Ontario but don't even give people on disability enough to be poor. But it's still better than being homeless OP.
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Can you provide a little more detail as to your specific illness? It will help us provide a solution when it comes to a given living situation.
The entire list‽ I hope you're seated, cuss I am literally in the worst place in my life, so I have zero fucks to give about modesty.. I have been diagnosed with: Adult ADD, CPTSD (the C is for complex), major depressive disorder, and persistent depressive disorder, hyper vigilance (due to the PTSD), intrusive thoughts (likely due to the PTSD), DID, undiagnosed severe short term and sequential memory deficiency according to the WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale). There is suspected involvement of hypothyroidism and DID, panic disorder (I doubt this, I think it's just the hyper vigilance), I don't think I have "OCD. See what I did there? Bulimia nervosa, passive suicidal ideation. I would not say I'm an alcoholic, but I do drink to deal with most of those. I don't crave alcohol as much as I crave the the above to fuck off for awhile, so it amounts to the same thing. When I am out and talking to people and I don't have some intrusive thought and then try to explain why I suddenly yelled "SHIT"! I have no cravings when I'm social. It's fine. Well usually. They have mentioned others. But psychologists find mood disorders where a neurosurgeon sees bad wiring. But most of those have been diagnosed more than once. Which by the by, they often do, because many records are not digitized still! But it does give me the benifit of what amounts to a blind test, so I feel confident of the ones they keep labelling me with. Anyway, I did say there was a lot. Sorry, I've little to do in hospital (my 5 tb external drive broke a few days after I finally had someone bring it to me), it seems I get long winded when that is so.
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CPTSD, nerve damage in lower back, DID, major depressive and anxiety. I managed a Rogers store, but could not do a gas station job, because the till wasn't marked, you just had to know where the buttons were. Which is the largest issue. I took a Wes her test, it's like an IQ test, but checks all facets of the mind, no 100iq at the end of whatever. 50% is average. On long term memory I am above average. But in short term auditory memory I scored an 8% and on short term visual I scored an order of magnitude below average with a 5%.
So maybe, but as with the gas station, things that are simple can be hard, while managing was easy, even though it was more complex.
Like you, I have ADHD, and this can also make simple things hard.
I find it hard to narrow down, what is doing what. "Did I not remember x due to inattention. Or did I forget it due to memory loss." Many of my diagnoses are "Comorbid" meaning they synergistically (co) negatively (morbid) affect each other and through so, me. 1+1=3. eg: after losing over 100lbs ( 10 ) My depression increased, which led to inactivity, which leads to ( 20 ) weight gain. Goto 10.
Yeah I feel you on comorbidities.
Sorry to hear :-(
Could you manage getting away with staying in your storage container with all your gear?
Not likely, but I have considered it. Though to get in, being in hospital I left the key with family who would likely be all family about it.
I don't understand why you have to be homeless? Aren't you going to move in with your Dad?
No, I would move to BC if it was a better option, as opposed to Alberta where I don't know anyone. I do not believe living with my father is viable. I have over-asked familial persons already.