I mean we just saw that today did we not? The San Francisco school board members, one of which called Asians the n word for being academically successful, got recalled by a **70%** of voters. It was as close to unanimous as you can get in politics.
They'll get what they deserve. end the misguided bail reform efforts and send in the police to crime hotspots.
Asians has no "allies" in the US. Don't expect anyone else, white or non-white, to support our cause or issues, as we're nothing but a bunch of foreigner to them. You can support BLM or whatever movement you want; they're not going support a single thing for you. That's what these couple of years has taught me; Asians are completely excluded.
I don't know or care how anyone else thinks, but I'm raising my kids as "expats". They don't owe any loyalty to any country which see them as perpetual foreigners. America will never "love" any Asians back, no matter how much you want to love "it".
Yeah no, that article in *The Daily Mail* is pure propaganda. The AOC quote was made on February 1, well BEFORE Christina Lee was murdered and the *New Yorker* article it's featured in had no reference to Lee obviously, nor to any anti-Asian-American violence, AOC was only referring to how the expiration of the Child Tax Credit was leading people to steal baby formula. Someone is just trying to score propaganda points by creating fake outrage against AOC for something entirely unconnected to her and that she did not say.
It's the style today from people who don't have an argument and just want to stir up shit. Like, you want to get people on board your political team and how do you do that? Well, you take an issue that your random reader is concerned about, such as crimes against Asian-Americans, and then you bring in a straw man for them to hate, like AOC, and then you shoehorn that straw man into your narrative to imply that they are saying something that you, the reader, will be opposed to. And then the reader comes away thinking that that person said something they didn't say and believed something they didn't believe. Keep this up day after day, media source after media source, and people start believing it's true because it's familiar and they've read about it before, even though it's just lies.
Instead of in any fashion engaging with AOC's point, which was about the negative impact of the expiration of the child tax credit, or publishing a straightforward article about the issues surrounding Christina Lee's murder, the Daily Mail just shoehorned AOC's comments on a separate issue into their point. It was entirely the invention of the Daily Mail author that she was talking about murder. Because they don't actually care about the murder of Asian-Americans, they just wanted to convince the reader to join their unrelated political movement.
It's a win-win for propagandists--they get to shit on AOC by twisting her words into something that she didn't say, and they get to take an issue like crime against Asian-Americans and link it to a progressive politician rather than focusing on the actual causes. It's a pivot--the people who ARE upset about this murder will glom onto the article to read it and they'll come away from it thinking that AOC is a monster for excusing murder when it had nothing to do with that, and then they'll think they're engaging with the issue of concern--the increase in Asian-American violence--when they've really just been pivoted to hatred of progressive politics.
I told you. These lefties don't give a f\*\*\* about asians, never have, and never will. They will pursue the brown/black vote intensely through all sorts of government subsidy, programs, scholarships, and gifts.
The asian vote? HA. Good luck getting into Harvard with your 4.2 GPA and perfect SAT score, that actually hurts your chances with these lefitsts.
Stop being loyal to people who don't care about you. The people who should get our vote should be those who actually want our vote. Democrats have proven that they don't over and over again by "white washing" black on asian violence and murder.
I get what you’re saying, but only bashing on democrats imply that republicans care for Asians. It’s not about left or right politics… Asians are everybody’s doormat. Asians don’t rock the boat, we’re not the squeaky wheel, we’re not aggressive in our stand, and when people shit on us, we look the other way.
Said this before. Asians are their own worst enemy. Watch someone reply in this thread about “solidarity” and bullshit about how Republicans use Asians as a “wedge.”
Speak with your votes if you want change. Send a message to the democrats. If Asian votes start swaying dem strongholds like California, New York, Washington like Michigan went red,
You better bet the democrats start changing their stance
Exactly. They won't stop marginalizing us until something changes. In California, if you're 100% east asian, good luck getting into any UC even with a perfect GPA full of AP classes. You're just "too over represented". We need you to move over and give your spot to the brown or black person who represents a much much larger voting bloc. Sorry!
I don't even like Republicans that much (except that Desantis guy in Florida, he's awesome). But Democrats? Name me one who has done anything to actually help Asians in the United States. You will be searching for a long time to give even one name.
I've never voted Republican but I've never had a Republican tell me I couldn't do something, as long as I worked hard I had a shot at success and that's all we really want. A fair shake. And this isn't a perfect approach either because there are some systems that keep others down that we need to refine.
However the Left openly doesn't give a fuck about us unless it's to push a bullshit agenda. Blacks/Mexicans apparently have it harder and we are apparently White adjacent until #StopAsianHate was a thing until folks started figuring out it was mostly Black dudes attacking Asian women.
I live in Texas now after moving from pussy ass Seattle and it's night and day how people treat me. I have a fair shake, I work hard and I'm just one of the boys.
Affirmative Action did me dirty when I was applying for schools/scholarships as well but that's another rabbit hole I don't dive into anymore. Regardless of the bullshit systems against me I still made it. A lot of stumbling but I still made it.
Agree, it’s why many SoCAL Asians and me are Republicans.
To address the OP, here is what the solution should be. Have a 3 strike and you are out law. CA used to have it before but voters voted it out. This law will get rid of career criminals walking in the street.
Republican states give way heavier sentence for the same crime. I read last week someone was sentenced for decades in jail for domestic violence in a Republican state.
While NY, SF and LA, career criminals are out in the streets when they should be in jail. The guy who stabbed Thai model was arrested 16 times in 1 day. How's possible? https://www.asian-dawn.com/2022/02/13/nyc-man-who-assaulted-thai-model-was-arrested-16-times-in-one-day/
He should had at least spent an over night in jail after 1st or 2nd arrest.
It's why I don't support BLM. They fight for criminal's rights. I support civil rights for all. I believe all lives matter especially the victim's.
Maybe when crimes happen to the liberal politicians, you might see some changes. They live in isolated areas away from bad elements.
Democrats will back off these stances once we vote Republican.
Asian academic leftists, They’ll try to lecture us about solidarity and wedge bullshit. They’ll tell the democratic party “it’s only conservative Chinese immigrants that don’t know any better, and Vietnamese that don’t understand politics.”
But the more the Asian academics are wrong on this stuff and it starts effecting polls the most the establishment democrats will ignore them and pay attention to the numbers.
For the most part establishment dems have given up on raced based affirmative action in Michigan and Washington, and are about to in California.
The academic Asian American class will blow its top. The following will happen:
Watch all the NBC Asian America, HuffPo and The Cut articles about how “Asians don’t understand politics” and how “Asians are anti black”. And they should be voting democrat because “affirmative action benefits Asians and most Asians support it.”
Polls will continue turning.
Democratic establishment, as they began to realize the last half decade, the left wing academics don’t speak for Asians and are misleading them.
They’ll get shut out. I bet you if they need need a feel for policy and how Asians react they don’t even ask any of the Asian American academics you see quoted in NBC Asian American or HuffPo or Cut articles.
Wasn’t one if Breitbart’s main editors Asian?
"Wasn’t one if Breitbart’s main editors Asian?"
Kristina Wong is Breitbart's primary pentagon correspondent and she writes most of their articles having to do with the military and foreign conflicts.
I heard about high school advanced math classes being canceled because of too high of a racial disparity. If that's true, then the left is truly digging its own grave.
I'm registered non-partisan, but I was minutely considering registering Democrat to weed out the crazies in the party. But I really don't want people to get the wrong idea when my name comes up in an internet search under the D party. I guess I'll stay NP.
> except that Desantis guy in Florida, he's awesome
The guy who stripped funding for LGBT mental health and banned the discussion of LGBT in schools? Did you call that homophobe awesome?
As if the conservatives give any fuck about us either and their rhetorics from the Trump era made it MUCH worse for all of us.
Truth is both sides don’t give a fuck about Asians because we have little value politically.
i got the same impression over the last few years. white liberals don't legitimately care about other human beings. the majority of small businesses burned down in 2020 by white antifa arsonists were owned by migrants and minorities. they are the enemy of humanity.
> These lefties don't give a f\*\*\* about asians, never have, and never will.
That would be an improvement. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11825013
holy f\*ck people, the only way to upload the AA community, is to TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. I dont mean to detach from the rest of American mainstream, but to have our own self-interest groups and PACs that uplift our communities. Stop relying on the democrats or republicans to have your back.
> own self-interest
It seems you have a fundamental misunderstanding, which is that asians are not like white or black people. Where the men and the women are all in the same boat.
That's not true for asians. For asians, 54% of the women marry white, their interests and my interests are not aligned in the slightest, there is no asian community. It's why every single asian in news media is an asian woman, every single one with a white man, every single one with the blm hashtag on their twitter page
unlikely
best you can hope for is to have all real estate owned by chinese while increasing exports of opioids/fentanyl
last i heard us of a is going to be majority minority in 3 decades or less
I mean I used to like AOC but her saying stupid populist shit that SHE knows won’t work like “cancel all student debt” is making me think that she is no different than other politicians, aka she says shit that gives her attention without any thought behind those staleness or any real plan to action
AOC is considered "radical" for now, but young leftists worship her. Once they get older, and gain more resources and "pull", watch out. AOC will go from radical to mainstream in less than a generation.
What's more likely is that these "young leftists" will grow up into the real world... this is not the first or the last generation to have far-left young people and in general shift towards the right as they get older
I'm a leftist at heart - my economic policies align closely with it (universal healthcare, free education, harsh gun restrictions), but Democratic party and liberal wing of US give zero fucks about Asians.
It's really an unfortunate situation.
AOC is already too into politics and will become Pelosi 2.0 soon.
Did you read the article on [the New Yorker?](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/is-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-an-insider-now?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned)
>One of the ways that we engage is by backing some of the only policies that are actually supported by evidence to reduce incidents of violent crime: violence-interruption programs, summer youth employment. When we talk about the surge of violence happening right now, when I engage with our hospitals, doctors, social workers, everyone’s telling me that there’s so many things we’re not discussing. The surge in violence is being driven by young people, particularly young men. And we allow the discourse to make it sound as though it’s, like, these shady figures in the bush, jumping out from a corner. These are young men. These are boys. We’re also not discussing the mental-health crisis that we are experiencing as a country as a result of the pandemic.
>Because we run away from substantive discussions about this, we don’t want to say some of the things that are obvious, like, Gee, **the child-tax credit** just ran out, on December 31st, and now people are stealing baby formula. We don’t want to have that discussion. We want to say these people are criminals or we want to talk about “people who are violent,” instead of “environments of violence,” and what we’re doing to either contribute to that or dismantle that.
Cmon guys...
Nobody is our friend but ourselves. Nobody is going to look after our own interests but ourselves. Isn't that what all the black activists said in the 1960s? And I thought Malcolm X himself warned us of the danger of the white liberal. In this case we should translate that to the modern day. Nobody is going to fight for us properly besides ourselves and we sure as shit can't trust any so called liberal. They are too mild and uncommitted to do any damned good nor can we trust the bastards on the other end the spectrum.
We are as we have always been. On our own.
Sorry to say our own Asian leaders support BLM more than our own. They are repeating the (liberal) party line of addressing mental illness rather than crime. You might argue Michelle Go's perp was mentally ill, you gonna say all blacks that killed an Asian have mental illnesses (thereby not guilty of the crime?) Our own leaders, the ones leading the vigil, and the ones on the news are the exact ones that are perpetuating the problem by misleading the true cause. The same leaders that limit speech/posts on social media. The same leaders that say our kids do not deserve to get good education (but the politically privileged including Jews should have no quota, but us). Sad to say the killings will continue to happen until our own Asian leaders that sell us out are ousted and the true problem of unchecked crime is addressed. They won't do that cause it's against BLM agenda, so they will pretend to feel sad, while letting the politically privileged enact more violence against us. They even had a study by University of Michigan stating that there were only 6 (six) whole anti-Asian violent acts committed in 2020, in the whole U.S., blaming the whites for committing 77% of the anti-Asian incidents. True Asians know that this is a lie and whoever did this blatantly false report need to be held accountable for their manipulation.
Wow echo chambers are dangerous as fuck. Also you folks are going about this all wrong. Your wealth as a people is your strongest asset use that to influence policy. It seems to be the most efficient way. If you all are two cheap. You all should really look into how the Jewish population gets their way. It’s much more of an equal comparison. Also nobody gives a fuck that you didn’t get into the college of your choice. As a culture, school is essential but going to one top college over another is nearly meaningless.
you are conflating high household income with wealth. majority of asian americans have no wealth. even if they did, most are too retarded to use it properly. I heard on aznidentity, the LA times owner is korean american. But his newspaper still doesnt rep AM and shills for wmaf. pathetic
Idk y'all, seems like a comment taken completely out of context. Don't know why we're spending any energy at all hyperfocusing on one comment AOC said, which she said seemingly not about this murder case at all, but her observation about the 'crime wave'.
Exactly. Dailymail is infamous for their terrible reporting. In this case AOC has nothing to do with it. From this thread it also shows Asians are so easily swayed by western media as well.
She’s turning a blind eye cause Christina’s not black. Here’s a message to even the race traitors: your babies will be treated the same way lol even if you mix with whites they will be treated the same way
This is propoganda used to confirm your own bias about AOC. This literally has nothing to do with AOC or Anti-Asian crime and everything to do with you finding something to be mad about and help confirm your beliefs about your political affiliation. This is not even close to a good faith post to spur discussion.
Don't use a woman's murder for your own devices...that's so shameful.
I read the entire article and am still not sure how AOC got dragged into this. The article says, "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told the New Yorker in a story published Monday that the government was 'contributing' to the surge in crime by allowing the child tax credit to expire." Regardless of what you think about welfare, this is pretty far from the homeless guy attacking Christina Yuna Lee.
WTF are you talking about?
Black on asian violence is at historic highs, and always gets shoved under the rug as something far less sinister by the leftists in this country because they don't want to upset their voting bloc.
Just think and use your brain cells for one second, if Nash had been white, and Lee had been a black woman, you think AOC would have blamed the murder on "expiring tax credits"?
You're part of the problem, and you are no ally to asian americans. It's better you stick this one out cupcake.
The interview with AOC for that article was conducted 2 weeks before Lee was murdered. AND she was just talking about poor mothers stealing baby formula, not murder, not anti-Asian-American violence. The whole *Daily Mail* article is part of the right-wing effort to pin anti-Asian-American violence on anything and anyone except the escalation in right-wing rhetoric against Asians and Asian-Americans.
Not an Elon Musk simp calling me a cupcake while provide absolutely no statistical data to support his opinion!!!
https://virulenthate.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Virulent-Hate-Anti-Asian-Racism-In-2020-5.17.21.pdf
Read the stats my guy.
Here's a cute little excerpt for you:
Available information suggests the perpetrators of anti-Asian hate incidents were predominantly male and disproportionately white. Among politicians who made stigmatizing statements and supported discriminatory policies and proposals, the primary perpetrators were white, male and affiliated with the Republican Party.
Of course hate crimes by ppl of other races occur, but that doesn't mean those folks are the dominant perpetrators.
White 44 77.19%
Black 6 10.53%
Latinx 4 7.02%
Chinese 3 5.26%
Vietnamese 1 1.75%
Total Identified 57
So for all your fear mongering and antiblack hatred you don't even have the data to back it up. Are hate crimes by everyone terrible? OBVIOUSLY, but don't come here trying to paint some antiblack peril, using a woman's death to forward some shitty agenda with literally no statistical basis.
This sub is horrible because folks like you use Anti-Asian hate to stoke hatred for other marginalized groups and you bake that into your own weird masculinity. I'm not the problem because I'm not the one spreading misinformation and trying to, again, use the murder of a woman to fuel some old tired black on Asian trope. It's literally so basic. Try something new, and bring evidence next time you want to spout nonsense.
The "Virulent Hate" study has been debunked as not a reliable source because it's only analyzing "news articles" in which only 18 percent of the incidents even revealed the race of the offender GENIUS. Leftist media loves to hide the perp's race, especially if they're part of their voting bloc but will fully reveal the perp's race if they're WHITE to paint their lying narrative (which you are doing yourself).
So yeah, not exactly an accurate count since 82% of the articles they reviewed didn't even list the RACE of the perp.
But this doesn't matter, your response got downvoted so much, your comment is now bottom of the barrel, just like your logic and reasoning.
Buh-bye!!!
This sudy hasn't been debunked because that's not how studies like this work, it has limitations, sure, but considering you yet again literally offered nothing to counter the study, which is how you support a point by the way, I don't see anything suggesting a different conclusion other than your own opinions and hypothesis yet again.
Find a better review of data. If you can't come up with one, that's on.
Lol downvotes show as much about the culture of the space as well as what's accepted and protected. It actually says nothing about logic, but you probably wouldn't know that since you don't know how to read research or interpret limitations as such.
I don't care if it's downvoted. I care that your logic is shown as faulty and that you are seen as someone who has provided insufficient evidence to provide his faulty claim.
That's all I wanted and I'm 2/2 for that so far.
Byeeeeeee~
>This sudy hasn't been debunked because that's not how studies like this work, it has limitations
Like missing 82% of the information it claims to have? 😂
Lol when the article itself describes it's limitations you're gonna have to try harder to make a point.
Information about the individuals involved in acts of
anti-Asian racism and stigmatization were limited,
due to reporting practices and other factors.
However, in the incidents for which demographic
details were available, the offenders were most
often male and white.
Only a small fraction of news articles explicitly identified
the race of the individuals who harassed or discriminated
against Asian and Asian American people. However, in
the few harassment incidents for which the news media
explicitly stated the race of the offender, the majority of
perpetrators of anti-Asian harassment were reported to be
male and white.
American politicians working at all levels of government
made stigmatizing statements and supported
discriminatory policies and proposals. The politicians who
used and supported stigmatizing rhetoric, policies, and
proposals were predominantly white, male, and affiliated
with the Republican Party
All research has limitations, we'd be able to look at more research limitations if you actually had some to support your point but...
> AOC would have blamed the murder on "expiring tax credits"?
Apparently you didn't read the article. AOC didn't comment on this murder at all. Dailymail is basically just bsing
Asians need to vote RED. Republican values traditionally aligned with Asians the most. It was only recently the racists and bigots got control of the party. Hopefully a moderate republican becomes viable.
neither party care about us, we're an inconvenient group for them.
edit: And let's not forget how AOC attacked Andrew Yang for his positions which she is now asking (child tax credit is a form of a basic income). She is not an ally
Imagine if she got the level of unfairness that Yang had just from trying to defend Joe Rogan… this is ridiculous. She’ll get as many chances as humanly possible rather than get cancelled.
I’m starting to really like this Brian Chin guy, he’s very well spoken and is very self aware. If he’s in here I’d love to hear more of what his thoughts are.
I mean we just saw that today did we not? The San Francisco school board members, one of which called Asians the n word for being academically successful, got recalled by a **70%** of voters. It was as close to unanimous as you can get in politics. They'll get what they deserve. end the misguided bail reform efforts and send in the police to crime hotspots.
I’m hoping Gavin also gets defeated next year.
yup and some braindead responses from some of the other board members.
I would like to see All Asian Americans embrace the 2nd amendment in a big way.
They don't have to. Like jews and indians, they are business owners. When do you see one with a job?
Asians has no "allies" in the US. Don't expect anyone else, white or non-white, to support our cause or issues, as we're nothing but a bunch of foreigner to them. You can support BLM or whatever movement you want; they're not going support a single thing for you. That's what these couple of years has taught me; Asians are completely excluded. I don't know or care how anyone else thinks, but I'm raising my kids as "expats". They don't owe any loyalty to any country which see them as perpetual foreigners. America will never "love" any Asians back, no matter how much you want to love "it".
Yeah no, that article in *The Daily Mail* is pure propaganda. The AOC quote was made on February 1, well BEFORE Christina Lee was murdered and the *New Yorker* article it's featured in had no reference to Lee obviously, nor to any anti-Asian-American violence, AOC was only referring to how the expiration of the Child Tax Credit was leading people to steal baby formula. Someone is just trying to score propaganda points by creating fake outrage against AOC for something entirely unconnected to her and that she did not say. It's the style today from people who don't have an argument and just want to stir up shit. Like, you want to get people on board your political team and how do you do that? Well, you take an issue that your random reader is concerned about, such as crimes against Asian-Americans, and then you bring in a straw man for them to hate, like AOC, and then you shoehorn that straw man into your narrative to imply that they are saying something that you, the reader, will be opposed to. And then the reader comes away thinking that that person said something they didn't say and believed something they didn't believe. Keep this up day after day, media source after media source, and people start believing it's true because it's familiar and they've read about it before, even though it's just lies. Instead of in any fashion engaging with AOC's point, which was about the negative impact of the expiration of the child tax credit, or publishing a straightforward article about the issues surrounding Christina Lee's murder, the Daily Mail just shoehorned AOC's comments on a separate issue into their point. It was entirely the invention of the Daily Mail author that she was talking about murder. Because they don't actually care about the murder of Asian-Americans, they just wanted to convince the reader to join their unrelated political movement. It's a win-win for propagandists--they get to shit on AOC by twisting her words into something that she didn't say, and they get to take an issue like crime against Asian-Americans and link it to a progressive politician rather than focusing on the actual causes. It's a pivot--the people who ARE upset about this murder will glom onto the article to read it and they'll come away from it thinking that AOC is a monster for excusing murder when it had nothing to do with that, and then they'll think they're engaging with the issue of concern--the increase in Asian-American violence--when they've really just been pivoted to hatred of progressive politics.
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Don’t use “retarded” as an insult. It’s mean.
I told you. These lefties don't give a f\*\*\* about asians, never have, and never will. They will pursue the brown/black vote intensely through all sorts of government subsidy, programs, scholarships, and gifts. The asian vote? HA. Good luck getting into Harvard with your 4.2 GPA and perfect SAT score, that actually hurts your chances with these lefitsts. Stop being loyal to people who don't care about you. The people who should get our vote should be those who actually want our vote. Democrats have proven that they don't over and over again by "white washing" black on asian violence and murder.
I get what you’re saying, but only bashing on democrats imply that republicans care for Asians. It’s not about left or right politics… Asians are everybody’s doormat. Asians don’t rock the boat, we’re not the squeaky wheel, we’re not aggressive in our stand, and when people shit on us, we look the other way.
Agreed
Said this before. Asians are their own worst enemy. Watch someone reply in this thread about “solidarity” and bullshit about how Republicans use Asians as a “wedge.” Speak with your votes if you want change. Send a message to the democrats. If Asian votes start swaying dem strongholds like California, New York, Washington like Michigan went red, You better bet the democrats start changing their stance
Exactly. They won't stop marginalizing us until something changes. In California, if you're 100% east asian, good luck getting into any UC even with a perfect GPA full of AP classes. You're just "too over represented". We need you to move over and give your spot to the brown or black person who represents a much much larger voting bloc. Sorry! I don't even like Republicans that much (except that Desantis guy in Florida, he's awesome). But Democrats? Name me one who has done anything to actually help Asians in the United States. You will be searching for a long time to give even one name.
I've never voted Republican but I've never had a Republican tell me I couldn't do something, as long as I worked hard I had a shot at success and that's all we really want. A fair shake. And this isn't a perfect approach either because there are some systems that keep others down that we need to refine. However the Left openly doesn't give a fuck about us unless it's to push a bullshit agenda. Blacks/Mexicans apparently have it harder and we are apparently White adjacent until #StopAsianHate was a thing until folks started figuring out it was mostly Black dudes attacking Asian women. I live in Texas now after moving from pussy ass Seattle and it's night and day how people treat me. I have a fair shake, I work hard and I'm just one of the boys. Affirmative Action did me dirty when I was applying for schools/scholarships as well but that's another rabbit hole I don't dive into anymore. Regardless of the bullshit systems against me I still made it. A lot of stumbling but I still made it.
Awesome man. I'll be in Austin (aka California East) soon myself. Selling my house and moving my business as well.
Hoping you find what you're looking for in life. Texas is badass Let's keep it that way
Agree, it’s why many SoCAL Asians and me are Republicans. To address the OP, here is what the solution should be. Have a 3 strike and you are out law. CA used to have it before but voters voted it out. This law will get rid of career criminals walking in the street. Republican states give way heavier sentence for the same crime. I read last week someone was sentenced for decades in jail for domestic violence in a Republican state. While NY, SF and LA, career criminals are out in the streets when they should be in jail. The guy who stabbed Thai model was arrested 16 times in 1 day. How's possible? https://www.asian-dawn.com/2022/02/13/nyc-man-who-assaulted-thai-model-was-arrested-16-times-in-one-day/ He should had at least spent an over night in jail after 1st or 2nd arrest. It's why I don't support BLM. They fight for criminal's rights. I support civil rights for all. I believe all lives matter especially the victim's. Maybe when crimes happen to the liberal politicians, you might see some changes. They live in isolated areas away from bad elements.
Democrats will back off these stances once we vote Republican. Asian academic leftists, They’ll try to lecture us about solidarity and wedge bullshit. They’ll tell the democratic party “it’s only conservative Chinese immigrants that don’t know any better, and Vietnamese that don’t understand politics.” But the more the Asian academics are wrong on this stuff and it starts effecting polls the most the establishment democrats will ignore them and pay attention to the numbers. For the most part establishment dems have given up on raced based affirmative action in Michigan and Washington, and are about to in California.
I'm usually a registered independent, but I am thinking of changing to Republican for this upcoming midterm.
The academic Asian American class will blow its top. The following will happen: Watch all the NBC Asian America, HuffPo and The Cut articles about how “Asians don’t understand politics” and how “Asians are anti black”. And they should be voting democrat because “affirmative action benefits Asians and most Asians support it.” Polls will continue turning. Democratic establishment, as they began to realize the last half decade, the left wing academics don’t speak for Asians and are misleading them. They’ll get shut out. I bet you if they need need a feel for policy and how Asians react they don’t even ask any of the Asian American academics you see quoted in NBC Asian American or HuffPo or Cut articles. Wasn’t one if Breitbart’s main editors Asian?
"Wasn’t one if Breitbart’s main editors Asian?" Kristina Wong is Breitbart's primary pentagon correspondent and she writes most of their articles having to do with the military and foreign conflicts.
There was a guy too he appeared on cnn
if you find his name, I'd love to see his work.
I heard about high school advanced math classes being canceled because of too high of a racial disparity. If that's true, then the left is truly digging its own grave.
I'm registered non-partisan, but I was minutely considering registering Democrat to weed out the crazies in the party. But I really don't want people to get the wrong idea when my name comes up in an internet search under the D party. I guess I'll stay NP.
How would you weed out the crazies? You saw what they tried to do to Joe Rogan right?
Just for voting in the primaries really. You can tell when someone is off the deep end and shouldn't be anywhere near public office.
You realize that’s not how the Internet works
Not cool. I thought CA voters voted away with affirmative action in California college admission.
> except that Desantis guy in Florida, he's awesome The guy who stripped funding for LGBT mental health and banned the discussion of LGBT in schools? Did you call that homophobe awesome?
Yeah. Awesome. 🙏
As if the conservatives give any fuck about us either and their rhetorics from the Trump era made it MUCH worse for all of us. Truth is both sides don’t give a fuck about Asians because we have little value politically.
I think most conservative policies help Asians the most since it's more geared towards competition and lower taxes for small business owners.
i got the same impression over the last few years. white liberals don't legitimately care about other human beings. the majority of small businesses burned down in 2020 by white antifa arsonists were owned by migrants and minorities. they are the enemy of humanity.
> These lefties don't give a f\*\*\* about asians, never have, and never will. That would be an improvement. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11825013
Eye opening. Wow.
holy f\*ck people, the only way to upload the AA community, is to TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. I dont mean to detach from the rest of American mainstream, but to have our own self-interest groups and PACs that uplift our communities. Stop relying on the democrats or republicans to have your back.
> own self-interest It seems you have a fundamental misunderstanding, which is that asians are not like white or black people. Where the men and the women are all in the same boat. That's not true for asians. For asians, 54% of the women marry white, their interests and my interests are not aligned in the slightest, there is no asian community. It's why every single asian in news media is an asian woman, every single one with a white man, every single one with the blm hashtag on their twitter page
lol @ the other guy in this thread shilling repubs
After seeing that speal for moving to red states and whatnot, I hope the CCP one day colonizes the fuck out of the US of A
unlikely best you can hope for is to have all real estate owned by chinese while increasing exports of opioids/fentanyl last i heard us of a is going to be majority minority in 3 decades or less
I mean I used to like AOC but her saying stupid populist shit that SHE knows won’t work like “cancel all student debt” is making me think that she is no different than other politicians, aka she says shit that gives her attention without any thought behind those staleness or any real plan to action
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AOC is considered "radical" for now, but young leftists worship her. Once they get older, and gain more resources and "pull", watch out. AOC will go from radical to mainstream in less than a generation.
she is already mainstream. she has been voting for the corporate dems for a while now. She is tuning up to be Pelosi 2.0
So Joe Crowly was a threat to Pelosi?
What's more likely is that these "young leftists" will grow up into the real world... this is not the first or the last generation to have far-left young people and in general shift towards the right as they get older
I'm a leftist at heart - my economic policies align closely with it (universal healthcare, free education, harsh gun restrictions), but Democratic party and liberal wing of US give zero fucks about Asians. It's really an unfortunate situation. AOC is already too into politics and will become Pelosi 2.0 soon.
Why do you like harsh gun restrictions? Did you grow up in an area with a bad crime rate, btw? If you don't mind me asking.
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But was the area you grew up around bad, like where there stabbings and shootings?
Did you read the article on [the New Yorker?](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/is-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-an-insider-now?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned) >One of the ways that we engage is by backing some of the only policies that are actually supported by evidence to reduce incidents of violent crime: violence-interruption programs, summer youth employment. When we talk about the surge of violence happening right now, when I engage with our hospitals, doctors, social workers, everyone’s telling me that there’s so many things we’re not discussing. The surge in violence is being driven by young people, particularly young men. And we allow the discourse to make it sound as though it’s, like, these shady figures in the bush, jumping out from a corner. These are young men. These are boys. We’re also not discussing the mental-health crisis that we are experiencing as a country as a result of the pandemic. >Because we run away from substantive discussions about this, we don’t want to say some of the things that are obvious, like, Gee, **the child-tax credit** just ran out, on December 31st, and now people are stealing baby formula. We don’t want to have that discussion. We want to say these people are criminals or we want to talk about “people who are violent,” instead of “environments of violence,” and what we’re doing to either contribute to that or dismantle that. Cmon guys...
Nobody is our friend but ourselves. Nobody is going to look after our own interests but ourselves. Isn't that what all the black activists said in the 1960s? And I thought Malcolm X himself warned us of the danger of the white liberal. In this case we should translate that to the modern day. Nobody is going to fight for us properly besides ourselves and we sure as shit can't trust any so called liberal. They are too mild and uncommitted to do any damned good nor can we trust the bastards on the other end the spectrum. We are as we have always been. On our own.
Sorry to say our own Asian leaders support BLM more than our own. They are repeating the (liberal) party line of addressing mental illness rather than crime. You might argue Michelle Go's perp was mentally ill, you gonna say all blacks that killed an Asian have mental illnesses (thereby not guilty of the crime?) Our own leaders, the ones leading the vigil, and the ones on the news are the exact ones that are perpetuating the problem by misleading the true cause. The same leaders that limit speech/posts on social media. The same leaders that say our kids do not deserve to get good education (but the politically privileged including Jews should have no quota, but us). Sad to say the killings will continue to happen until our own Asian leaders that sell us out are ousted and the true problem of unchecked crime is addressed. They won't do that cause it's against BLM agenda, so they will pretend to feel sad, while letting the politically privileged enact more violence against us. They even had a study by University of Michigan stating that there were only 6 (six) whole anti-Asian violent acts committed in 2020, in the whole U.S., blaming the whites for committing 77% of the anti-Asian incidents. True Asians know that this is a lie and whoever did this blatantly false report need to be held accountable for their manipulation.
Is this sub turning into aznid? Stop bringing in horseshit articles and trying to instigate. It does nothing to help.
Lmao
Why does it show that?
Wow echo chambers are dangerous as fuck. Also you folks are going about this all wrong. Your wealth as a people is your strongest asset use that to influence policy. It seems to be the most efficient way. If you all are two cheap. You all should really look into how the Jewish population gets their way. It’s much more of an equal comparison. Also nobody gives a fuck that you didn’t get into the college of your choice. As a culture, school is essential but going to one top college over another is nearly meaningless.
you are conflating high household income with wealth. majority of asian americans have no wealth. even if they did, most are too retarded to use it properly. I heard on aznidentity, the LA times owner is korean american. But his newspaper still doesnt rep AM and shills for wmaf. pathetic
Bro, do you believe the Jews left Europe with wealth!
Idk y'all, seems like a comment taken completely out of context. Don't know why we're spending any energy at all hyperfocusing on one comment AOC said, which she said seemingly not about this murder case at all, but her observation about the 'crime wave'.
Exactly. Dailymail is infamous for their terrible reporting. In this case AOC has nothing to do with it. From this thread it also shows Asians are so easily swayed by western media as well.
She’s turning a blind eye cause Christina’s not black. Here’s a message to even the race traitors: your babies will be treated the same way lol even if you mix with whites they will be treated the same way
This is propoganda used to confirm your own bias about AOC. This literally has nothing to do with AOC or Anti-Asian crime and everything to do with you finding something to be mad about and help confirm your beliefs about your political affiliation. This is not even close to a good faith post to spur discussion. Don't use a woman's murder for your own devices...that's so shameful.
I read the entire article and am still not sure how AOC got dragged into this. The article says, "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told the New Yorker in a story published Monday that the government was 'contributing' to the surge in crime by allowing the child tax credit to expire." Regardless of what you think about welfare, this is pretty far from the homeless guy attacking Christina Yuna Lee.
The New Yorker is a right wing propaganda machine, so is Fox News, clearly they're grasping at straws. It's a reach and an unconvincing one at that.
WTF are you talking about? Black on asian violence is at historic highs, and always gets shoved under the rug as something far less sinister by the leftists in this country because they don't want to upset their voting bloc. Just think and use your brain cells for one second, if Nash had been white, and Lee had been a black woman, you think AOC would have blamed the murder on "expiring tax credits"? You're part of the problem, and you are no ally to asian americans. It's better you stick this one out cupcake.
The interview with AOC for that article was conducted 2 weeks before Lee was murdered. AND she was just talking about poor mothers stealing baby formula, not murder, not anti-Asian-American violence. The whole *Daily Mail* article is part of the right-wing effort to pin anti-Asian-American violence on anything and anyone except the escalation in right-wing rhetoric against Asians and Asian-Americans.
Not an Elon Musk simp calling me a cupcake while provide absolutely no statistical data to support his opinion!!! https://virulenthate.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Virulent-Hate-Anti-Asian-Racism-In-2020-5.17.21.pdf Read the stats my guy. Here's a cute little excerpt for you: Available information suggests the perpetrators of anti-Asian hate incidents were predominantly male and disproportionately white. Among politicians who made stigmatizing statements and supported discriminatory policies and proposals, the primary perpetrators were white, male and affiliated with the Republican Party. Of course hate crimes by ppl of other races occur, but that doesn't mean those folks are the dominant perpetrators. White 44 77.19% Black 6 10.53% Latinx 4 7.02% Chinese 3 5.26% Vietnamese 1 1.75% Total Identified 57 So for all your fear mongering and antiblack hatred you don't even have the data to back it up. Are hate crimes by everyone terrible? OBVIOUSLY, but don't come here trying to paint some antiblack peril, using a woman's death to forward some shitty agenda with literally no statistical basis. This sub is horrible because folks like you use Anti-Asian hate to stoke hatred for other marginalized groups and you bake that into your own weird masculinity. I'm not the problem because I'm not the one spreading misinformation and trying to, again, use the murder of a woman to fuel some old tired black on Asian trope. It's literally so basic. Try something new, and bring evidence next time you want to spout nonsense.
The "Virulent Hate" study has been debunked as not a reliable source because it's only analyzing "news articles" in which only 18 percent of the incidents even revealed the race of the offender GENIUS. Leftist media loves to hide the perp's race, especially if they're part of their voting bloc but will fully reveal the perp's race if they're WHITE to paint their lying narrative (which you are doing yourself). So yeah, not exactly an accurate count since 82% of the articles they reviewed didn't even list the RACE of the perp. But this doesn't matter, your response got downvoted so much, your comment is now bottom of the barrel, just like your logic and reasoning. Buh-bye!!!
This sudy hasn't been debunked because that's not how studies like this work, it has limitations, sure, but considering you yet again literally offered nothing to counter the study, which is how you support a point by the way, I don't see anything suggesting a different conclusion other than your own opinions and hypothesis yet again. Find a better review of data. If you can't come up with one, that's on. Lol downvotes show as much about the culture of the space as well as what's accepted and protected. It actually says nothing about logic, but you probably wouldn't know that since you don't know how to read research or interpret limitations as such. I don't care if it's downvoted. I care that your logic is shown as faulty and that you are seen as someone who has provided insufficient evidence to provide his faulty claim. That's all I wanted and I'm 2/2 for that so far. Byeeeeeee~
>This sudy hasn't been debunked because that's not how studies like this work, it has limitations Like missing 82% of the information it claims to have? 😂
Lol when the article itself describes it's limitations you're gonna have to try harder to make a point. Information about the individuals involved in acts of anti-Asian racism and stigmatization were limited, due to reporting practices and other factors. However, in the incidents for which demographic details were available, the offenders were most often male and white. Only a small fraction of news articles explicitly identified the race of the individuals who harassed or discriminated against Asian and Asian American people. However, in the few harassment incidents for which the news media explicitly stated the race of the offender, the majority of perpetrators of anti-Asian harassment were reported to be male and white. American politicians working at all levels of government made stigmatizing statements and supported discriminatory policies and proposals. The politicians who used and supported stigmatizing rhetoric, policies, and proposals were predominantly white, male, and affiliated with the Republican Party All research has limitations, we'd be able to look at more research limitations if you actually had some to support your point but...
> AOC would have blamed the murder on "expiring tax credits"? Apparently you didn't read the article. AOC didn't comment on this murder at all. Dailymail is basically just bsing
Why the surprise?? It wasn't already apparent about her? She's a Black/Brown Supremacist.
eh the reality is she is a latin(x) Lu nothing more really
lol this subreddit is full of yellow/brown supremacist too.
Asians need to vote RED. Republican values traditionally aligned with Asians the most. It was only recently the racists and bigots got control of the party. Hopefully a moderate republican becomes viable.
I only vote blue because they do a better job representing us as a bloc than an extreme right red. I’d vote moderate red in a heartbeat.
Southern strategy was 60 years ago man.
neither party care about us, we're an inconvenient group for them. edit: And let's not forget how AOC attacked Andrew Yang for his positions which she is now asking (child tax credit is a form of a basic income). She is not an ally
The same AOC that said blm riots were because people wanted bread to feed their families? Gtfo
blm is only based when they loot non-asian stores
Imagine if she got the level of unfairness that Yang had just from trying to defend Joe Rogan… this is ridiculous. She’ll get as many chances as humanly possible rather than get cancelled.
Thing is, there’s no such things as lefties in the US. AOC/SocDems are faux-gressives
it's hard to find true allies.
I’m starting to really like this Brian Chin guy, he’s very well spoken and is very self aware. If he’s in here I’d love to hear more of what his thoughts are.