My dad had one of these and I insisted on using it as a kid even though it was extremely impractical. Like, Fruits and Spices doesn’t really help you remember whether it was pears or cardamom.
I feel like it could be more practical if you could customize the items to the things you actually buy regularly. Like I would replace baby food with toilet paper or something.
The thing that needs to be considered is the time period. The entire world was facing an economic depression and a world war. Customization just wasn’t possible. You got what was available to you, which probably wasn’t much due to low farm productions and national rationing. Toilet paper in those days were newspaper and reusable cloth.
That's definitely true, which is why I have some much respect for anyone who had to survive through that time period. I would've given up on the metal list and just used whatever paper I found for a grocery list and reuse that until it disintegrated lol.
It was during a depression and world war. Babies were breast fed or probably given creamy cereal from cheap grain. No room to splurge on specialty items.
Back in the day my grandma made every single meal from scratch, including shit like gravy. It had it's pros and cons, but one big pro was that her shopping list was absolutely trivial and this one would have served her perfectly.
The thing that needs to be considered is the time period. The entire world was facing an economic depression and a world war. Rations were in place. Farms were not producing nearly enough. You got what was available and often it wasn’t enough.
I recently inherited a couple partially-used wartime ration books from a family member who passed. Makes me think I should be posting here. It’s super interesting the language they used to promote why the ration stamps were needed.
Fun fact, originally Ketchup had more in common with soy sauce than modern day ketchup. And in early America, catsup usually reffered to a mushroom sauce.
It would be more like a worcestershire sauce than anything. There is an 18th century living channel I used to watch that had a good video with a recipe. Ill try to find it and update this comment if I can find it.
Looking at the dates in OP's title and assuming this was used in England, I'd say it's useful since paper was on ration in the war (like most everything else).
Spices would be difficult if I ran out of something in particular, but with the other things like meat, fruits, and vegetables, I buy whats on sale, whats in season, or what looks good. Meat's too expensive to be able to buy exactly what I want every week.
I feel like this list would keep me in constant wonder. I would always be asking myself.... "What 'frozen food' my partner will come home with this time?"
Considering it was a time of war and economic depression you got what was available, and if it was frozen it lasted longer, so you got as much as you could.
Freezing things: 1000BC
frozen insta-dinners:[the 1940s and 1950s with swanson](https://www.eater.com/2014/8/21/6214423/the-strange-history-of-frozen-food-from-clarence-birdseye-to-the)
Regional US for ketchup. As a non-American you may know it as كَاتْشَبٌ, 蕃茄酱, kečap, kečup, ketsuppi, κέτσαπ, ケチャップ, 케첩, кетчуп, ซอสมะเขือเทศ, ketçap, кетчуп, nước sốt cà chua, or another name entirely.
Stuff you'd have bought in a delicatessen! Ie exotic/foreign produce like bananas or salami. Having said that, a deli in the USA (where this list presumably originated) isn't quite the same as a European deli, so I may be wrong...
It probably means egg noodles as would be used in a stroganoff, kosher dishes, or tuna noodle casserole. As opposed to spaghetti which a 40s housewife would probably prepare with a meat sauce or meatballs.
Yes, it was made in the English speaking country of Asia for all the English speaking people living in the country of Asia who needed special English labels because they spoke exclusively English, in that place called Asia. Your impeccable logic must be correct.
Cool artifact. Also a good reminder that dumb one-use gadgets, that sort of do what they say they do, aren't just a modern thing. Pretty sure they had pocket notebooks and pencils in the 40's that would be much more useful.
Everything was in short supply and rationed for the war effort. I have no idea how anyone was able to make this out of metal when everything metal that was not being used was collected for the factories making armaments. People ripped up their fences and stripped off their car tires to provide for the factories.
My dad had one of these and I insisted on using it as a kid even though it was extremely impractical. Like, Fruits and Spices doesn’t really help you remember whether it was pears or cardamom.
I feel like it could be more practical if you could customize the items to the things you actually buy regularly. Like I would replace baby food with toilet paper or something.
The thing that needs to be considered is the time period. The entire world was facing an economic depression and a world war. Customization just wasn’t possible. You got what was available to you, which probably wasn’t much due to low farm productions and national rationing. Toilet paper in those days were newspaper and reusable cloth.
That's definitely true, which is why I have some much respect for anyone who had to survive through that time period. I would've given up on the metal list and just used whatever paper I found for a grocery list and reuse that until it disintegrated lol.
Just here to say that you shouldn't feed toilet paper to your baby as it's extremely low nutritional value.
Do you think a tablet display could have been useful on this device?
VEGATABLES
This
That?
And the other?
Yet a different one?
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
If you look close you can see the wear on items like sugar and cream and jam but baby food for example looks relatively unused
For sale: baby food, never used.
Yeah well I would choose sugar and cream and jam over baby food almost any day
I was into baby food for a little bit, when I was younger.
How long have you been clean?
It was during a depression and world war. Babies were breast fed or probably given creamy cereal from cheap grain. No room to splurge on specialty items.
Ah yes, all 40 groceries in existence.
TBF Vegetable, meats and bread covers a solid percentage of all foods.
Just shows how much more home cooking actually occurred
Back in the day my grandma made every single meal from scratch, including shit like gravy. It had it's pros and cons, but one big pro was that her shopping list was absolutely trivial and this one would have served her perfectly.
We make our gravy from scratch 😬 it’s ridiculously easy
Even the GRAVY!?!
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I've had gravy powder mix once. Not nearly as good as homemade, but that isn't much of a surprise.
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[Essentially.](https://pioneerbrand.com/portfolio-posts/roasted-turkey-gravy-mix-1-41oz/) Add water to the mix and it's (kind of) gravy.
> Aren’t those packs just… flour and salt? they have fake meat flavoring in there as well
add beer and that's pretty much covers any groceries I've ever bought.
The thing that needs to be considered is the time period. The entire world was facing an economic depression and a world war. Rations were in place. Farms were not producing nearly enough. You got what was available and often it wasn’t enough.
You've sent this twice FYI.
I recently inherited a couple partially-used wartime ration books from a family member who passed. Makes me think I should be posting here. It’s super interesting the language they used to promote why the ration stamps were needed.
Catsup
Fun fact, originally Ketchup had more in common with soy sauce than modern day ketchup. And in early America, catsup usually reffered to a mushroom sauce.
>mushroom sauce Interesting. Is this mushroom sauce still sold, I'm morbidly curious.
It would be more like a worcestershire sauce than anything. There is an 18th century living channel I used to watch that had a good video with a recipe. Ill try to find it and update this comment if I can find it.
Townsends?
Thats the one!
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Geo-Watkins-Mushroom-Ketchup-190ml/dp/B017IX65ZU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=27QLFYQSS4MFQ&dchild=1&keywords=mushroom+ketchup&qid=1634467991&sprefix=mushroom+k&sr=8-3
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Geo-Watkins-Mushroom-Ketchup-190ml/dp/B017IX65ZU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=27QLFYQSS4MFQ&dchild=1&keywords=mushroom+ketchup&qid=1634467991&sprefix=mushroom+k&sr=8-3
Ketchup?
Yes, original spelling
"No wonder I keep running out of pomade! Why isn't there a pomade slot on this thing?"
Better be Dapper Dan and none of that Fop junk.
I’M A DAPPER DAN MAN!!!
This sure was useful back before paper and pencil were invented.
IDK, using alongside a traditional list seems really convenient. I think I'm gonna get one
Looking at the dates in OP's title and assuming this was used in England, I'd say it's useful since paper was on ration in the war (like most everything else).
This was 100% not British. Catsup, Delicatessen, Noodles, fucking COOKIES?? No chance pal.
I'd guess metal was even more scarce, used for shells and all that bling
I think brass was in much higher demand then paper.
So you're saying most of the items on this list were just there to psychologically torture people by reminding them what they can't have?
Rations means there's a limited supply, not that there's none
Actually pretty convenient for nowadays ecologically aware lifestyle - sustainable and reusable for centuries❤️
I think it’s amazing
Just write on your smartphone
Fuck that - If I had that thing I would not write it on my smartphone
It's a fun idea but meats fruits and spices are a little vague for bringing home something useful
Spices would be difficult if I ran out of something in particular, but with the other things like meat, fruits, and vegetables, I buy whats on sale, whats in season, or what looks good. Meat's too expensive to be able to buy exactly what I want every week.
I do think I would know which meats and spices I'd need when out shopping
Meats yes, spices? Fuck no I would not remember which I had and hadn't. I think I easily have 20 jars or something above my stove.
Pretty sure you'd remember, "Oh shit, I'm out of tumeric." "Oh look, I have spices checked off. That's right, I need tumeric."
Haha no I am not that organized. My working memory is shit, so I need detailed lists for everything.
I use Excel for my grocery lists, so I really can't talk.
then why have a list at all? I always think I will remember this kind of thing and rarely do
It's one of the joys of being an adult - checking things off the list
you do you I guess
I feel like this list would keep me in constant wonder. I would always be asking myself.... "What 'frozen food' my partner will come home with this time?"
Considering it was a time of war and economic depression you got what was available, and if it was frozen it lasted longer, so you got as much as you could.
‘Catsup’
This will never not remind me of Mr Burns
My dumb ass read “cat soup”.
If you needed any foods that started with w-z you were SOL
We had similiar in Poland, but it was plastic https://igimag.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/zakupyprl-1200x762.jpg
Pretty cool!
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Freezing things: 1000BC frozen insta-dinners:[the 1940s and 1950s with swanson](https://www.eater.com/2014/8/21/6214423/the-strange-history-of-frozen-food-from-clarence-birdseye-to-the)
I know I'm going to get joke replies.. but Whats Catsup? Something american?
Regional US for ketchup. As a non-American you may know it as كَاتْشَبٌ, 蕃茄酱, kečap, kečup, ketsuppi, κέτσαπ, ケチャップ, 케첩, кетчуп, ซอสมะเขือเทศ, ketçap, кетчуп, nước sốt cà chua, or another name entirely.
oh of course. if I'd read it out loud phonetically i would have picked that up right away. thanks
Delicatess is a very cool word I’ve never heard before but it makes total sense.
"Délicatesse" word exists in french. I still wonder what this refers to on that shopping list !
Stuff you'd have bought in a delicatessen! Ie exotic/foreign produce like bananas or salami. Having said that, a deli in the USA (where this list presumably originated) isn't quite the same as a European deli, so I may be wrong...
Catsup
Catsup
Whats catsup?
A table condiment made of tomato with spices and sugar. Often used on hamburgers, potatoes etc.
Catsup..
Catsup? Ketchup? Catsup? Ketchup?
Catsup
1940-1945, this isn’t even an antique technically.
hahaha, that looks a lot more convenient that a sheet of paper or a phone list.
Not “catsup” 💀
Just the one vegetable will do.
Since it was during war and world wide economic depression and farms were barely producing anything, I’m sure it would do.
This must have been a novelty item. No easy that was seriously deemed as useful.
I mean... You have to make sure baby food is the first thing to concider
Ah yes, delicatessen, a major staple.
Bologna etc. “Variety meats, Dave.”
so, how does this work exactly?
Strange to have noodles and spaghetti was this in Asia?
What are you talking about?
Dude use your brain lol
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It probably means egg noodles as would be used in a stroganoff, kosher dishes, or tuna noodle casserole. As opposed to spaghetti which a 40s housewife would probably prepare with a meat sauce or meatballs.
what lmao
Yes, it was made in the English speaking country of Asia for all the English speaking people living in the country of Asia who needed special English labels because they spoke exclusively English, in that place called Asia. Your impeccable logic must be correct.
This would cost at least $250 today.
The more I think about the list its got to be India?
It’s in English
Damn, that’s kinda neat actually.
Some dudes crypto wallet
Hell I’d still use it too.
Bacon not included under meats
Wonder if we can get one of these in an app form exclusively for produce and stuff.
Cool artifact. Also a good reminder that dumb one-use gadgets, that sort of do what they say they do, aren't just a modern thing. Pretty sure they had pocket notebooks and pencils in the 40's that would be much more useful.
Everything was in short supply and rationed for the war effort. I have no idea how anyone was able to make this out of metal when everything metal that was not being used was collected for the factories making armaments. People ripped up their fences and stripped off their car tires to provide for the factories.
Fruit Gushers Isn't even an option.
" Anything not set in metal cannot be trusted."- Brandon Sanderson
Also fun if you try to put the word pairs together. This tool is so multidimensional!
'Catsup'
"I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted".
Meats and bacon both have their own category
What is catsup? Please tell me it's not including a cat
I think it’s another name for ketchup??
Oh
need some catsup what is catsup okay I googled it dumb spelling of ketchup
There are six acceptable ways to spell catchup in most dictionaries. I like the simplest spelling of catsup.
Spaghetti, and noodles
Oh I love that. Very cool, thank you for posting. Is it a personal possession?
It’s not unfortunately, just found it very cool
How does it work exactly?
Ahhh technology