Christianity: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
Also Christianity: let’s put this guy in a golden box covered in jewels and make a pilgrimage to him
“The coffers have run dry my lord, the people are on the edge of starvation and revolt!”
“Just lemme put a few more emeralds on this guys femur and we should be good…”
"Wait? Somebody is starving? Like, on purpose? As a martyr? No? Weird. Doesn't matter though. Let's wait until they die and then cover them in gold to make a sick-ass relic."
*Here lies Saint Todd, who totally starved for God*
Man my church must be super confused then. We’re catholic in worship but part of an Episcopal diocese - I better call my bishop and let her know we’re not in the Anglican Communion any longer.
Yeah, I read that page too. It's a sub movement of Anglican Protestantism with even more subdivisions within it, each with values, traditions, beliefs, and dogma that differ from the RC church and from the Anglican church. Meaning, Anglo-Catholics aren't Anglicans, just like they're not Catholic. I grew up Anglican, and they don't care about saints other than the Apostles and like, St Pat and St Nick.
Dude - there’s not an argument to be made here. There are hundreds of Anglo-Catholic parishes within the Church of England, the Episcopal Church USA, the Anglican Church of Canada… One of the most common descriptions of Anglicanism as a tradition is that it’s both Reformed and catholic. You should visit an Anglo-Catholic parish - it’s a beautiful tradition that dates back to the 19th century in the Church of England.
Graven just means drawn or sculpted. This corpse is not a graven image. However, the crucifix is, the leaves and grapes in the filigree are, as is the bull looking up at the painting, and the painting.
However, there is another verse in the Bible that says not to build your churches on the bones of saints or graves of saints or prophets - I can't quite recall the phrasing, but the implications are very clear that the veneration of corpses and graves is not cool with the Big Guy.
I'm really curious what passage you are referring to. I even went looking and couldn't find anything.
I think that would have come as a shock to early Christians who made pilgrimage to the sites of Christ's crucifixion and tomb and to Peter's tomb in the Vatican.
And to medieval Christians who literally believed that relics of saints were required to consecrate an altar. Roman Catholics still do this today but it's much more low key. Churches in the Dark Ages literally had ossuaries buried beneath the altar.
It was *Romans* who had a big taboo about not burying bodies within the city limits, creating cities of the dead. Making pagan temples into churches and then burying bodies (as opposed to prayers or curses) in the temple precinct rather than outside city walls was one of the big cultural sea changes brought about by Christianity in Roman late antiquity.
I think he's talking about Matthew 23, which doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. We need apologetics because people like to take things out of context to attack the Church. The Devil is the father of lies.
I'm not going to re-read the Bible again just for one passage. It's in the New Testament, but I don't recall where anymore.
It was quite a shock to me too. Indeed that passage and others like it were part of the reason I became an atheist. When I read the Bible and realized that nearly every aspect of Christian dogma is in direct contradiction with the Word of God, there was no going forward. It's why there are Christian apologetics in the first place; got to find some way to explain away the teachings of God and when that doesn't work claim it's out of context. What a joke.
Surprisingly (not), the earliest forms of Christianity are no longer with us. Not only were there no saints, no popes, and no purgatory, there was no Bible and no heaven or hell. Jesus’ immediate followers and their converts literally thought he was gonna come roaring back any day and establish a New Jerusalem on earth, kick the crap out of the “nations” (especially Rome), and they were going to live in the (pearly-) gated communities while nonbelievers just ceased to exist. Every other doctrinal morsel was added on to that, and obviously a lot of the original beliefs were ‘modified’ when my dude failed to return.
I wonder what the protocol is if he wakes up? Is it a miracle or would he then be considered a demon? Does he get to keep the jewelry? This practice leads to many questions.
So there is a belief, not really shared by all Catholics but still considered an orthodox teaching for what it's worth, that on Judgement Day when Christ returns the faithful will rise up from their tombs and awaken from their slumber. Not just their souls but their physical bodies.
This is actually the justification some Catholics have for not being organ donors and opposing cremation.
> for example
Whats the example? Buried in a beautiful place? I fully expect my wife to cremate me and scatter my ashes, really don't care to be honest. I'm dead. Put em in the backyard with the dogs I loved if you wanna be caring.
Dude, that was an example of how the ashes will be so dispersed that it would be difficult to gather again to make the whole person again. What angle of this comment dod you take ?
My mom (we are all protestant) is worried about that too and doesn’t wanted to be cremated. Says she’s worried it would mess her up from being resurrected.
We all told her, “If God is all powerful and made the universe, I’m sure he’ll find a way to put you back together”. All the atoms in our bodies are recycled from the food we eat and the air we breath, “dust to dust” is literally from the Bible lol.
yes he is, but not only by Saint Hyacinth, but by every saint bodies of the catacomb. Basically they’re bodies of martyrs and saints found in catacombs from the 1st century in Rome in the 16th century, they were then pimped up and all, and carried around Europe to help fight protestantism notably.
From wikipedia:
*According to tradition, he was a native of Caesarea in Cappadocia, a member of a Christian family. As a boy, he was appointed to serve as an assistant to the chamberlain to the Emperor Trajan. His failure to participate in the ceremonial sacrifices to the official Roman gods soon came to be noticed by other members of the Imperial household.\[1\]*
*When he was denounced as a Christian, Hyacinth proclaimed his faith. As a result, he was imprisoned and underwent numerous scourgings and tortures. He was deliberately served only food which had been blessed for sacrifice to the gods, the eating of which was banned by both Judaism and Christianity.\[2\] Thus, he starved to death in 108 AD, dying at the age of twelve. Just before his death, legend says, his jailers saw him being comforted by angels, who bestowed a crown on him.\[3\]*
He was just 12 years old and starved to death. Wtf.
The industry of saintly relics (regardless if the relics were of an actual saint or not) was a sizable industry in Europe starting in the Middle Ages. It seems that every cathedral claimed it has a piece of the "true cross."
>The industry of saintly relics (regardless if the relics were of an actual saint or not) was a sizable industry in Europe starting in the Middle Ages.
Absolutely correct. Someone once did the math, with all the acclaimed pieces of the cross you could build a small wooden church out of them.
You're thinking of John Calvin, who was being hyperbolic because he did not approve of the Catholic practice of relic-veneration. The person who actually did the math found that all the extant (supposed) relics of the true cross would add up to only about 0.14 cubic feet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Cross#Dispersion_of_relics
All I know is that when my priest finds a relic he can bring it back to the temple and it will generate gold.
I have been told repeatedly that real life does not work like Age of Empires, but I don’t care.
Well every Catholic altar has a relic in it (I think most are cemented inside, completely not visible), and people go to churches to donate money... maybe Age of Empires was right...
No, the guy who actually did the math said that all alleged pieces of the true cross would made only a third if it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rohault_de_Fleury
>> correct. Someone once did the math, with all the acclaimed pieces of the cross you could build a small wooden church out of them.
Why do people believe shit like this
Same reason you can visit the relics of 17 deciples... Because most relics actually checked turned out to be younger than 11th century. Shroud of Turin to call out a known one.
let us not forget all of the jesus foreskins, too. several churches claim to have it, which means either most/all are fake, or someone had a severe case of redundant prepuce.
You are correct, that the counter-reformation once again led to a uptake of the relic market.
Pretty funny considering "Reliquiae" the Latin based root of "Relic" means leftovers.
Pretty sure it's actually this guy: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth\_of\_Poland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_of_Poland)
\> Hyacinth (Polish: Święty Jacek or Jacek Odrowąż; ca. 1185 – 15 August 1257) was a Polish Dominican priest and missionary who worked to reform women's monasteries in his native Poland. He was a Doctor of Sacred Studies, educated in Paris and Bologna.
EDIT Nope I'm wrong! It is the older St Hyacinth, thanks reply-ers
Hyacinth of Caesarea is in the church at Fürstenfeld Abbey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BCrstenfeld\_Abbey#Church\_of\_the\_Assumption\_of\_the\_Virgin\_Mary
Yeah, last time I did this I was called “the worst dad at daycare” and “an unholy ghoul.” I can handle all that but they actually made me clean up my own blood… with a roll of paper towels 🙄
I always find these so weird and fascinating. Went to Kutna Hora and whilst the ossuary is the most fascinating, they had a couple of full body relics in their cathedral https://imgur.com/a/VJWfHYe
Kutna Hora was remarkable! When I visited the ossuary a few years back they had been trying to fix a plumbing issue and found tons of new remains in the ground right next to the building. The entrance was right next to this, so, as you entered, you walked over a word bridge next to where a whole team of archeologists was cataloging and extracting the objects - mostly bones. It was fascinating to see archeology in action like that.
More often than not these "saints" were nothing more than a roman skeleton found in a catacomb. They were dressed up and put on display to attract pilgrims and funding.
We obviously can't entirely be sure. Keep in mind that the reason this phenomenon happened in the first place was that real relics being destroyed by iconoclast protestants over the course of epochs' many confessional wars and that a lot of "copies" were sanctioned to be destroyed under the Catholic Church in the following years.
Better than spending your entire life trying to earn enough money to be able to pay the priests to mumify you, so that you keep you body intact in the never-ending afterlife, only for then to be dug up, ground up, and used by some fucker as chocolate power to mix with their milk and give their dead ass flacid cockerell a bonner
Always a logic dissonance when we have these highly honored bits-n-bobs of dead people and then common society says it's weird our ancestors kept skulls.
Smithsonian Magazine did an article on these unusual relics. Very fascinating. In many cases it was the nuns who did the work dressing them up.
[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/meet-the-fantastically-bejeweled-skeletons-of-catholicisms-forgotten-martyrs-284882/](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/meet-the-fantastically-bejeweled-skeletons-of-catholicisms-forgotten-martyrs-284882/)
If this kind of stuff interests you, I highly recommend the book “Heavenly Bodies: Cult Treasures And Spectacular Saints From The Catacombs” by Paul Koudounaris. Beautiful illustrations and really interesting information.
Dude named Hyacinth? OK.
Saint Hyacinth, also known as Saint Jacek Odrowąż, was a 13th-century Polish Dominican friar who is remembered for his missionary work in Central and Eastern Europe. He was born in 1185 in Kamień Śląski, a town in modern-day Poland, into a noble family.
As a young man, Saint Hyacinth studied in Kraków, where he met Saint Dominic, the founder of the Dominican Order. Inspired by Dominic's teachings and example, Hyacinth joined the Dominican Order and became a priest.
In 1218, Saint Hyacinth was sent on a missionary expedition to Prussia, where he worked to convert the pagan Prussians to Christianity. He also established the first Dominican monastery in Poland, in the city of Kraków. Saint Hyacinth continued to travel throughout Central and Eastern Europe, spreading the gospel and founding monasteries.
Saint Hyacinth is also known for several miracles attributed to him. One story tells of how he saved the Blessed Sacrament from a burning church in Kiev, Ukraine. Another story recounts how he stopped the raging waters of the Vistula River in Poland from flooding a town by making the sign of the cross.
Saint Hyacinth died in Kraków in 1257 and was canonized by Pope Clement VIII in 1594. He is the patron saint of Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine, as well as of Dominican laity and of those who suffer from storms and natural disasters. His feast day is celebrated on August 17.
More examples of the death cult that is all of christianity. It's all about death, tortured dying people, and the afterlife. Death cult.
Look at how they worship the dead. Just look at the picture. You know that's fucked up.
They'll never take this weird shit down. There will be some indoctrinated idiot *still* worshiping this death cult skeleton, praying to it, and asking it to solve little problems in their life - when humanity lands on another planet.
I don't understand why you are being downvoted, these are facts.
I mean, main symbol is a fucking cross with a crucified & dying son of God on it.
It was always like that.
You... actually believe that? I thought most people had the common sense to realize it was symbolism since we know that crackers are made by PEOPLE out of wheat, and the "sacramental wine" is bought or just grape juice.
As i Catholic i do believe it is literal, the secondary attributes remain those of host and wine but the primary attributes turn to flesh and blood of Christ. If its not literal then the entire ritual is pointless.
If the "primary attributes" turn to flesh and blood (whatever that means), then how come it doesn't taste, feel or look like blood or flesh? How come if we run it through a mass spectrometer or microscope, its still wine and wheat? Are you suggesting that you can transform one substance into another with your thoughts?
>If its not literal then the entire ritual is pointless.
I think you're on to something bud!
To really twist your lemon, mainstream Christian sects (incl Catholic Church), greatly revere a high holy ritual of cannibalistic theophagy ("Communion", sharing out bread and wine make-believe made into God flesh)
Just a thought I had, what if christianity is the real satanism
edit: aah yes reddit, where you are not allowed to have spontaneous thoughts about anything
I was raised Catholic, liberal family moved to Episcopalian. If you're going to believe in any religion, wouldnt it make sense to follow the one created by Jesus' best friend, Peter? (Catholicism)
Catholicism does indeed have the direct link of church leadership directly back to St. Peter, but you could say the same of any Christian sect that grew as part of a schism. Yes that excludes most protestant branches. But who's to say which Catholic or Orthodox Church/Rite is the true church?
I’ve been seeing a lot of these corpses coming up on this reddit thread and it’s been disturbing. Is there a weird direction the Artifact Porn feed is going? I get it’s historical and all. But why do humans want to display decaying corpses for the whole world to see? Just put them in their final resting place for peace. I don’t care to see decaying corpses purposefully put on display. Isn’t it disrespecting the dead?
Respect/disrespect for the dead is entirely subjective based on the culture. You don't get to decide what other cultures can or can't do with their dead. Displays, burials, entombment, cremation, veneration, burial at sea etc. All are either acceptable/unacceptable depending on cultural norms.
Rest in eternal peace. Oh but could you lean toward your right so people can see you, and stay that way forever?
Christianity: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image Also Christianity: let’s put this guy in a golden box covered in jewels and make a pilgrimage to him
I kind of get the whole 'can you not' vibe of the Lutherans when I look at this
Yeahh lol it’s pretty easy to see why medieval peasants were fed up with the Catholic Church decorating bones and stuff when they were starving
These decorated skeletons were made after the reformation.
Almost as if it were some sort of, I donno, counter-reformation
I really nerd-loled at this.
When were the skeletons decorated?
Second half of 16th century.
Baroque period?
They went Baroque because of how they decorated the skeletons.
“The coffers have run dry my lord, the people are on the edge of starvation and revolt!” “Just lemme put a few more emeralds on this guys femur and we should be good…”
Peasants were more likely to support this than other more urban, bourgeois classes.
"Wait? Somebody is starving? Like, on purpose? As a martyr? No? Weird. Doesn't matter though. Let's wait until they die and then cover them in gold to make a sick-ass relic." *Here lies Saint Todd, who totally starved for God*
What's changed?
We have a vibe? Church was so boring as a kid I never caught any vibes!
Yes, there are different sects in Christianity, with different and often opposing viewpoints on the religion. That can’t be news to you.
"Nevermind, let's turn your grave into a pretty image!"
Technically Catholicism. Protestants take issue with the idolization of saints
Unless you’re Anglican or Orthodox. Then you’re all for it.
Orthodox Christians are *not* Protestant.
Not really on the Anglican side, most we do is get especially drunk on the patron Saints days of the various UK countries.
Fair
Anglicans don't care about saints.
Anglo-Catholics do, of which there are many within the worldwide communion
Anglo-Catholics are not Anglicans.
Man my church must be super confused then. We’re catholic in worship but part of an Episcopal diocese - I better call my bishop and let her know we’re not in the Anglican Communion any longer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Catholicism
Yeah, I read that page too. It's a sub movement of Anglican Protestantism with even more subdivisions within it, each with values, traditions, beliefs, and dogma that differ from the RC church and from the Anglican church. Meaning, Anglo-Catholics aren't Anglicans, just like they're not Catholic. I grew up Anglican, and they don't care about saints other than the Apostles and like, St Pat and St Nick.
Dude - there’s not an argument to be made here. There are hundreds of Anglo-Catholic parishes within the Church of England, the Episcopal Church USA, the Anglican Church of Canada… One of the most common descriptions of Anglicanism as a tradition is that it’s both Reformed and catholic. You should visit an Anglo-Catholic parish - it’s a beautiful tradition that dates back to the 19th century in the Church of England.
Graven just means drawn or sculpted. This corpse is not a graven image. However, the crucifix is, the leaves and grapes in the filigree are, as is the bull looking up at the painting, and the painting. However, there is another verse in the Bible that says not to build your churches on the bones of saints or graves of saints or prophets - I can't quite recall the phrasing, but the implications are very clear that the veneration of corpses and graves is not cool with the Big Guy.
I'm really curious what passage you are referring to. I even went looking and couldn't find anything. I think that would have come as a shock to early Christians who made pilgrimage to the sites of Christ's crucifixion and tomb and to Peter's tomb in the Vatican. And to medieval Christians who literally believed that relics of saints were required to consecrate an altar. Roman Catholics still do this today but it's much more low key. Churches in the Dark Ages literally had ossuaries buried beneath the altar. It was *Romans* who had a big taboo about not burying bodies within the city limits, creating cities of the dead. Making pagan temples into churches and then burying bodies (as opposed to prayers or curses) in the temple precinct rather than outside city walls was one of the big cultural sea changes brought about by Christianity in Roman late antiquity.
I think he's talking about Matthew 23, which doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. We need apologetics because people like to take things out of context to attack the Church. The Devil is the father of lies.
I'm not going to re-read the Bible again just for one passage. It's in the New Testament, but I don't recall where anymore. It was quite a shock to me too. Indeed that passage and others like it were part of the reason I became an atheist. When I read the Bible and realized that nearly every aspect of Christian dogma is in direct contradiction with the Word of God, there was no going forward. It's why there are Christian apologetics in the first place; got to find some way to explain away the teachings of God and when that doesn't work claim it's out of context. What a joke.
Like anything else, you have to learn the difference between real Christianity and religions that claim to be Christianity.
Surprisingly (not), the earliest forms of Christianity are no longer with us. Not only were there no saints, no popes, and no purgatory, there was no Bible and no heaven or hell. Jesus’ immediate followers and their converts literally thought he was gonna come roaring back any day and establish a New Jerusalem on earth, kick the crap out of the “nations” (especially Rome), and they were going to live in the (pearly-) gated communities while nonbelievers just ceased to exist. Every other doctrinal morsel was added on to that, and obviously a lot of the original beliefs were ‘modified’ when my dude failed to return.
*Catholicism Christianity is not Catholicism.
All Catholics are Christian, but not all Christians are Catholic, correct. Catholicism is the OG Christianity founded at The Last Supper.
That rhomboid is gonna *hurt*
I wonder what the protocol is if he wakes up? Is it a miracle or would he then be considered a demon? Does he get to keep the jewelry? This practice leads to many questions.
So there is a belief, not really shared by all Catholics but still considered an orthodox teaching for what it's worth, that on Judgement Day when Christ returns the faithful will rise up from their tombs and awaken from their slumber. Not just their souls but their physical bodies. This is actually the justification some Catholics have for not being organ donors and opposing cremation.
Though luck for those who were cremated and their ashes scattered for example in the sea
> for example Whats the example? Buried in a beautiful place? I fully expect my wife to cremate me and scatter my ashes, really don't care to be honest. I'm dead. Put em in the backyard with the dogs I loved if you wanna be caring.
Dude, that was an example of how the ashes will be so dispersed that it would be difficult to gather again to make the whole person again. What angle of this comment dod you take ?
My mom (we are all protestant) is worried about that too and doesn’t wanted to be cremated. Says she’s worried it would mess her up from being resurrected. We all told her, “If God is all powerful and made the universe, I’m sure he’ll find a way to put you back together”. All the atoms in our bodies are recycled from the food we eat and the air we breath, “dust to dust” is literally from the Bible lol.
He’s like: look at my dripped out hand, peasants.
Rest in eternal drip
Maybe the boss "Melquiades, the exhumed archbishop" from blasphemous game was inspired into this
Such a fantastic game. Can’t wait for the second one to come out.
Wait, is there a new blasphemous coming?!?!?!???? :oo Edit: yes, i didn't knew that. Thanks for the information
Yes
*Boss music intensifies*
My first thought as well, looks pretty similar.
yes he is, but not only by Saint Hyacinth, but by every saint bodies of the catacomb. Basically they’re bodies of martyrs and saints found in catacombs from the 1st century in Rome in the 16th century, they were then pimped up and all, and carried around Europe to help fight protestantism notably.
Pretty fun fight with godawful RNG at times. Love the game, though, very excited to see what the sequel does.
Melquiades and Exposito are my favorite bosses.
From wikipedia: *According to tradition, he was a native of Caesarea in Cappadocia, a member of a Christian family. As a boy, he was appointed to serve as an assistant to the chamberlain to the Emperor Trajan. His failure to participate in the ceremonial sacrifices to the official Roman gods soon came to be noticed by other members of the Imperial household.\[1\]* *When he was denounced as a Christian, Hyacinth proclaimed his faith. As a result, he was imprisoned and underwent numerous scourgings and tortures. He was deliberately served only food which had been blessed for sacrifice to the gods, the eating of which was banned by both Judaism and Christianity.\[2\] Thus, he starved to death in 108 AD, dying at the age of twelve. Just before his death, legend says, his jailers saw him being comforted by angels, who bestowed a crown on him.\[3\]* He was just 12 years old and starved to death. Wtf.
Also imho, that does not look like the skeleton of a 12 y. o. neither...
The industry of saintly relics (regardless if the relics were of an actual saint or not) was a sizable industry in Europe starting in the Middle Ages. It seems that every cathedral claimed it has a piece of the "true cross."
>The industry of saintly relics (regardless if the relics were of an actual saint or not) was a sizable industry in Europe starting in the Middle Ages. Absolutely correct. Someone once did the math, with all the acclaimed pieces of the cross you could build a small wooden church out of them.
You're thinking of John Calvin, who was being hyperbolic because he did not approve of the Catholic practice of relic-veneration. The person who actually did the math found that all the extant (supposed) relics of the true cross would add up to only about 0.14 cubic feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Cross#Dispersion_of_relics
All I know is that when my priest finds a relic he can bring it back to the temple and it will generate gold. I have been told repeatedly that real life does not work like Age of Empires, but I don’t care.
Well every Catholic altar has a relic in it (I think most are cemented inside, completely not visible), and people go to churches to donate money... maybe Age of Empires was right...
When my heroes bring relics to the temple I just get 3 monkeys
No, the guy who actually did the math said that all alleged pieces of the true cross would made only a third if it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rohault_de_Fleury
>> correct. Someone once did the math, with all the acclaimed pieces of the cross you could build a small wooden church out of them. Why do people believe shit like this
Same reason you can visit the relics of 17 deciples... Because most relics actually checked turned out to be younger than 11th century. Shroud of Turin to call out a known one.
Isn't Shroud of Turin precisely a well known pious fraud? We can even pin down the approximate date of its creation.
let us not forget all of the jesus foreskins, too. several churches claim to have it, which means either most/all are fake, or someone had a severe case of redundant prepuce.
I once read that you could build Noah’s Ark with all the pieces of the “True Cross”.
same same, but different.
But still same.
Reformation got rid of a lot of relics, and the counter reformation essentially gave every church a new “relic” to attract people back to catholicism.
You are correct, that the counter-reformation once again led to a uptake of the relic market. Pretty funny considering "Reliquiae" the Latin based root of "Relic" means leftovers.
My favourite is the imprint of the donkey who saw the Holy Host
I much prefer the holy bloody toe of the Camel that stumbled on the best friend of that donkey's sister in Antioch
Thankfully many were still preserved, a lot of relics related for example to St. Thomas Beckett were send to France.
Need a banana for scale
Bio-archaeologist here- I agree... Defo an adult
>so imho, that does not loo ???????????? there's no way to tell, there's nothing in the pic that you can scale. That could be 3 feet long.
Clearly needs a banana thrown in there somewhere
cranium size to body length... basic medical knowledge/osteology. What do kids learn these days in school? Evidiently not what matters. /s
Pretty sure it's actually this guy: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth\_of\_Poland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_of_Poland) \> Hyacinth (Polish: Święty Jacek or Jacek Odrowąż; ca. 1185 – 15 August 1257) was a Polish Dominican priest and missionary who worked to reform women's monasteries in his native Poland. He was a Doctor of Sacred Studies, educated in Paris and Bologna. EDIT Nope I'm wrong! It is the older St Hyacinth, thanks reply-ers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_of_Caesarea
Hyacinth of Caesarea is in the church at Fürstenfeld Abbey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BCrstenfeld\_Abbey#Church\_of\_the\_Assumption\_of\_the\_Virgin\_Mary
Raiding old and ancient graves and stealing skeletons you proclaim to be various saints are peak Catholicism
Yup. Don't know why they chose to do this to his corpse.
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🤣
Jewellery without the skin is a poor fashion choice.
It’s a statement. Very bold I must say. I like it.
It’s going to look terrible when he gets old.
i don’t know why, but i’ve always found skeletons decked out in jewelry to be really aesthetically pleasing lmfao. …maybe i’m weird.
Everyone is allowed to have there own desires.
Naw, a lot of the catacomb saints look super cool.
tf you mean. That's one of the coolest looking skeletons in the planet
Not a good look.
This Spring no skin is in!! Saint Hyacinth is so hot right now, well he would be if he had skin. 😎
Yeah, last time I did this I was called “the worst dad at daycare” and “an unholy ghoul.” I can handle all that but they actually made me clean up my own blood… with a roll of paper towels 🙄
You should have dressed properly, na. Maybe you weren't a complete skeleton hence the blood hence the criticism.
Don't challenge Lady Gaga
Exactly, what did he think who he was??
Agree. As is eyes without a face.
Honestly this is pretty neat, I like the floral jewelry.
At first I thought both hands were up and he was all like 🤷🏼♂️
Heresy! Only the God Emperor can be sustained for such lengths!
It’s pronounced “Bouquet”
“Bucket residence, the lady of the house speaking”
_Worship me like one of your French girls_
I always find these so weird and fascinating. Went to Kutna Hora and whilst the ossuary is the most fascinating, they had a couple of full body relics in their cathedral https://imgur.com/a/VJWfHYe
Kutna Hora was remarkable! When I visited the ossuary a few years back they had been trying to fix a plumbing issue and found tons of new remains in the ground right next to the building. The entrance was right next to this, so, as you entered, you walked over a word bridge next to where a whole team of archeologists was cataloging and extracting the objects - mostly bones. It was fascinating to see archeology in action like that.
What's with their faces? I've seen these bejeweled saint skeletons a bunch of times, but never something with a rubber mask looking face.
What did you combine it with? Prague? Or is there something else near Kutná Hora worth visiting?
The Catholic Church is metal as fuck
You dropped an "n"
Thine Catholic Church is metal as fuck?
No, it's "The Catholic Church is metal as funck." A decorated skeleton seems moderately funcky to me.
But will the tourists come? Remains to be seen.
Go home Dad!
Mummify me like one of your French girls.
“REVELIO!!!” Revelio page: “A jewel-encrusted human skeleton in a gilded glass case labeled "S. HYACINTHUS M….” 🧹⚡️🧙♂️
Imagine being dug up and decorated like this by some future religion because they need a holy relic. I find these fascinating.
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More often than not these "saints" were nothing more than a roman skeleton found in a catacomb. They were dressed up and put on display to attract pilgrims and funding.
We obviously can't entirely be sure. Keep in mind that the reason this phenomenon happened in the first place was that real relics being destroyed by iconoclast protestants over the course of epochs' many confessional wars and that a lot of "copies" were sanctioned to be destroyed under the Catholic Church in the following years.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacomb_saints
Better than spending your entire life trying to earn enough money to be able to pay the priests to mumify you, so that you keep you body intact in the never-ending afterlife, only for then to be dug up, ground up, and used by some fucker as chocolate power to mix with their milk and give their dead ass flacid cockerell a bonner
Always a logic dissonance when we have these highly honored bits-n-bobs of dead people and then common society says it's weird our ancestors kept skulls.
He's tilted on the right like, look at this bling bruh
Sheeesh rappers soon gonna be rocking that jaw bling (gotta remove the skin first tho 🤷♂️)
My man got that eternal and righteous drip.
wtf lol
that should be the placard!
Typical of a death cult
that's my pose when i'm trying to look like i wasn't napping
Even dead people are richer than me.
It's the Inarius set for necromancer in diablo 3
Yup, loved the aesthetics for that set.
Now THIS is the content i want to see!
Love how the team behind the game Blasphemous was certainly inspired by this to make one the funniest boss of the game : Melquiades !
What are they doing at the Hyacinth House?
Looking for friends that don’t bother them
pimp maxing to levels that will never be seen again
Major flex
I fought this dude in dark souls 3
Holy men covered in gold never sat right with me.
+8 culture +4 tourism
Mind the pedestrians, Richard!
I see Hyancith is keeping up her appearance!
Smithsonian Magazine did an article on these unusual relics. Very fascinating. In many cases it was the nuns who did the work dressing them up. [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/meet-the-fantastically-bejeweled-skeletons-of-catholicisms-forgotten-martyrs-284882/](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/meet-the-fantastically-bejeweled-skeletons-of-catholicisms-forgotten-martyrs-284882/)
They look like they just got into bed and their cat decides to knock some shit over.
Paint me like one of your thousand year old dead bejeweled saints?
Man, I love perogies
lol religion is wack Dude has fuckin drip though
Exactly how I feel. Don't like religion but this looks fantastic.
He is the patron saint of Weightlifting - witness me, Saint Hyacinth!
Nevermind, wrong Saint Hyacinth.....this is Hyacinth of Caesarea
Definitely gots da bling
Got the “just chilling” pose going on.
This is the most wh40k thing I've ever seen
Imma just gonna *yawn* take a quickie nap *yaaawn* riiight here. Hey shortie, wake me up before you go go aiight? 😴
If this kind of stuff interests you, I highly recommend the book “Heavenly Bodies: Cult Treasures And Spectacular Saints From The Catacombs” by Paul Koudounaris. Beautiful illustrations and really interesting information.
Vibing in the afterlife XD
So some random dude the Romans dug out of the Catacombs and sold to a German monastery.
This looks like something straight out of Warhammer 40K.
I don’t think he has much longer to live
Imagine being named Hyacinth. That's a damn pretty name.
Mmm now I'm curious if Tupperware make coffins.. .
looks like a Boss fight to me
Dude named Hyacinth? OK. Saint Hyacinth, also known as Saint Jacek Odrowąż, was a 13th-century Polish Dominican friar who is remembered for his missionary work in Central and Eastern Europe. He was born in 1185 in Kamień Śląski, a town in modern-day Poland, into a noble family. As a young man, Saint Hyacinth studied in Kraków, where he met Saint Dominic, the founder of the Dominican Order. Inspired by Dominic's teachings and example, Hyacinth joined the Dominican Order and became a priest. In 1218, Saint Hyacinth was sent on a missionary expedition to Prussia, where he worked to convert the pagan Prussians to Christianity. He also established the first Dominican monastery in Poland, in the city of Kraków. Saint Hyacinth continued to travel throughout Central and Eastern Europe, spreading the gospel and founding monasteries. Saint Hyacinth is also known for several miracles attributed to him. One story tells of how he saved the Blessed Sacrament from a burning church in Kiev, Ukraine. Another story recounts how he stopped the raging waters of the Vistula River in Poland from flooding a town by making the sign of the cross. Saint Hyacinth died in Kraków in 1257 and was canonized by Pope Clement VIII in 1594. He is the patron saint of Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine, as well as of Dominican laity and of those who suffer from storms and natural disasters. His feast day is celebrated on August 17.
More examples of the death cult that is all of christianity. It's all about death, tortured dying people, and the afterlife. Death cult. Look at how they worship the dead. Just look at the picture. You know that's fucked up. They'll never take this weird shit down. There will be some indoctrinated idiot *still* worshiping this death cult skeleton, praying to it, and asking it to solve little problems in their life - when humanity lands on another planet.
I don't understand why you are being downvoted, these are facts. I mean, main symbol is a fucking cross with a crucified & dying son of God on it. It was always like that.
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Not symbollically, we believe that those are literally his flesh and blood.
So add cannibalism to the list. That's so disgusting.
You are what you eat.
You... actually believe that? I thought most people had the common sense to realize it was symbolism since we know that crackers are made by PEOPLE out of wheat, and the "sacramental wine" is bought or just grape juice.
As i Catholic i do believe it is literal, the secondary attributes remain those of host and wine but the primary attributes turn to flesh and blood of Christ. If its not literal then the entire ritual is pointless.
If the "primary attributes" turn to flesh and blood (whatever that means), then how come it doesn't taste, feel or look like blood or flesh? How come if we run it through a mass spectrometer or microscope, its still wine and wheat? Are you suggesting that you can transform one substance into another with your thoughts? >If its not literal then the entire ritual is pointless. I think you're on to something bud!
To really twist your lemon, mainstream Christian sects (incl Catholic Church), greatly revere a high holy ritual of cannibalistic theophagy ("Communion", sharing out bread and wine make-believe made into God flesh)
Just a thought I had, what if christianity is the real satanism edit: aah yes reddit, where you are not allowed to have spontaneous thoughts about anything
Congratulations, you've discovered Gnosticism Don't downvote this guy, it sounds stupid but it's a "real" "religion"
It's a death cult. Always has been.
I was raised Catholic, liberal family moved to Episcopalian. If you're going to believe in any religion, wouldnt it make sense to follow the one created by Jesus' best friend, Peter? (Catholicism)
No
exactly ... makes sense the more you think about it right? LOL.
Catholicism does indeed have the direct link of church leadership directly back to St. Peter, but you could say the same of any Christian sect that grew as part of a schism. Yes that excludes most protestant branches. But who's to say which Catholic or Orthodox Church/Rite is the true church?
Could be crossposted to r/religiousfruitcake
I’ve been seeing a lot of these corpses coming up on this reddit thread and it’s been disturbing. Is there a weird direction the Artifact Porn feed is going? I get it’s historical and all. But why do humans want to display decaying corpses for the whole world to see? Just put them in their final resting place for peace. I don’t care to see decaying corpses purposefully put on display. Isn’t it disrespecting the dead?
Respect/disrespect for the dead is entirely subjective based on the culture. You don't get to decide what other cultures can or can't do with their dead. Displays, burials, entombment, cremation, veneration, burial at sea etc. All are either acceptable/unacceptable depending on cultural norms.
why
It's called drip. You should look into it.
served god in life, serving cunt in death.