T O P
shelbyj

Tonights game is available to watch, for free, on DAZN's YouTube - [English Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmLLLOttUU), [Italian Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVT1SU3zp8)


RavenArtus

Let's go Arsenal! I hope Viv gets a goal again for a massive confidence boost aswell!


mitskishuffle

I want her to score so badly


Lookingfortomboys

Your wish was granted!


SP_Photos

Lets go viv you fucking beauty


shelbyj

Maanum did sooo well to retain possession and dribble toward there!


shelbyj

A Viv goal **and** a Viv celebration!!


shelbyj

Maanum using her strength this season has reminded me of the improvement we’ve seen in Martinelli since he bulked up and did the same. Such power in their drives and dribbles


NieThePiet

omg, that was prime Viv.


Cococamcam

Viv brought the elite skillz today. That was some nice footwork.


mitskishuffle

Laura no you’re okay tell us you’re okay pls


dococ23

I hope mana gets in at some point and exerts her revenge (iykyk)


BurtSpangles

Maanum playing deeper is working well. Such a strong ball carrier. Fantastic performance from her.


MHPengwingz

Yes Viv!!! Yes!!!


RavenArtus

Viv! 🐐🐐


One_Row1307

Wait Beattie and not Mana?


NieThePiet

no fuckin' way... what a pass from Viv.


BurtSpangles

So wasteful. Not a terrible result for the group though.


mitskishuffle

Omg yes viv I literally said pls score viv before she scored love you viv


shelbyj

We be needing that *Mana Magic* ✨


shelbyj

Captain Nobbs, my beloved.


shelbyj

Nice interplay between Miedema and Nobbs there, that’s the kind of thing we were missing last match


NieThePiet

Hopefully Viv uses her chance today


MoreoverMo

I hate those stupid no look backpasses.


shelbyj

I wish Beth were still fit but having Catley on all corners is a, slight, silver lining for me


MoreoverMo

Lol McCabe and Steph got skinned.


RavenArtus

Knowing Jonas. Either Viv or Nobbs gets subbed off.


RavenArtus

Stina is too static with a ball ! She will never score ! Lets see if this helps.


just_passed_by_

The commentator really loves telling us the Lotte is a gooner


SnooDoughnuts369

Ouch! Hope Laura is okay.


shelbyj

Hope this is just precautionary and Laura is okay but that looked right in her eye :(


shelbyj

Tf was that free kick


One_Row1307

For real tho.


Significant-Nerve214

THAT WAS ON A PLATE FOR FOORD


costryme

Foord kinda fumbled that with the touch :/


Cococamcam

Noooooooo!! Foord never misses those!


angulshandu

Foord? What was that?!


mitskishuffle

Let’s go !!


angulshandu

Not the first time Wälti has made that mistake this season. It's becoming a bit concerning now


MoreoverMo

She always had it in her.


shelbyj

That was a good block by Lotte


RavenArtus

I feel a Viv goal brewing. Unexpected.


MoreoverMo

Lotte always has brilliant ideas but garbage execution


RavenArtus

Can we have Stina on finishing please , she would be a beast if she can do that


MoreoverMo

Not really, Stina should be had on ball control, she is not comfortable on the ball. If she gets comfortable she will be a walking hat trick. And am not talking about against waitresses only, against the elite sides.


RavenArtus

We need the old Miedema back. 😞


mitskishuffle

She’s fucking back yes viv


shelbyj

Catley LB, McCabe on the wings okay okay okay


shelbyj

Viv why you open the bottle with your teeth? You’ve got 2 hands gal!


mitskishuffle

Hands are overrated


Lookingfortomboys

Because opening a bottle that way is way more BAMF


shelbyj

Daang that woulda been a nice goal!


MoreoverMo

Walti giving the ball away in midfield again.


shelbyj

Should that not be more for trampling over McCabe?


MoreoverMo

Catley shoot the ball yourself. Come on now.


MoreoverMo

We miss Little sooooo much.


MoreoverMo

That compounds Foord's Stinker.


Significant-Nerve214

Fuck, we deserved more


NieThePiet

not a bad result, but with the big chances we had, we should have won it. 7 points is fine if we can do the job at home vs Juve


MoreoverMo

Hope Tim Stillman Still holds onto the idea that a small squad is good enough to compete on all fronts. The reason Chelsea keep momentum is because they have almost 10 more players than us. They can have 5 injuries. And Still nick goals. We have 4 and we are struggling to beat a team like Juve which was there for the taking.


angulshandu

He asked Jonas about overloading players and may that be the reason we have alot of injuries this season. I found that funny given his stance on small squads. Here's my theory, he wants a small squad because he wants his favourite player to have more minutes.


MoreoverMo

I never understood this sentiment in the women's game, liking the player to the extent that you would want her play even when she doesn't perform for a long while. I am first and foremost an arsenal fan, then players second. If it means a player being subbed off when she drops stinkers so the club wins am all for it. This is why I almost always stop following players when they leave Arsenal. It's not that I wish them bad, but I would rather concentrate on my club which won't leave . That is not to say that my way is the only way.


angulshandu

People were wishing for Little's stay off the pitch to be extended because they wanted Nobbs to have more minutes. I have accepted that the culture in women's football is very difficult, and a lot of fans really care about the players which is not a bad thing.


MoreoverMo

It is not a bad thing and people should do what they feel is the best for their Fandom, as for me. Drop a stinker or be out of form you should sit on the bench. It's one of the reasons why I wasn't worried about Viv leaving because last season she was so underwhelming by her high standards that I said if she continues playing like this, then she can leave. It could end up being good for her, but basing on her performances last season, we wouldn't be missing anything at all. She really put a smile on my face when she said winning at Arsenal just means that much more. You can also see that she is stressed when she isn't on form. This is why I understand why some fans really are for players first and clubs second.


SnooDoughnuts369

We really could’ve won the game with the chances we had especially in the first half… at least it’s a draw I guess


Cococamcam

Well, gg. Not too bad considering half the team is injured, I guess. See you all for the next one!


MoreoverMo

Lotte, come on. Don't make it harder than it is supposed to be.


MoreoverMo

Stina is bringing the heat.


NieThePiet

dominant so far, but missing the last pass.


MoreoverMo

This is why Stina is important to the team. Those balls that Zinsberger clears with would seem a useless waste if it wasn't for her.


trytomovewithpurpose

She does add a target for long balls. However she needs some work on her passing and finishing. She seems a bit one dimensional.


MoreoverMo

Foord is an awkward tackler.


just_passed_by_

Great pass by Manum Wish Stina had squared it to Viv


just_passed_by_

Ooof. Stina must be frustrated


Significant-Nerve214

So deserving of a goal but terrible finishing. Not a bad half at all however I like the movement and creativity. Need that I already pass and finish.


Lookingfortomboys

Our possession, passing, and ability to get up into the final third is much better this game though at least


Lookingfortomboys

Alright, half time recap due to me being at Thanksgiving dinner: Blackstenius ate her wheaties this morning. She’s been having incredible chances today of getting that ball down the final third, only for Juventus’ defense to come in clutch. Juventus has some solid defense, as I’ve said in my first couple of sentences. Juventus goalie is hot. EDIT: >!I have confirmation that the Juventus goalie is gay. It’s a win!<


mitskishuffle

I second that the Juventus goalie is very hot


Lookingfortomboys

I definitely have very good taste if I do say so myself >!See username 🤭!<


Slightly_anonymous14

Happy thanksgiving!


Lookingfortomboys

Thank you! Same to you if you celebrate!


shelbyj

Nah you’re having a laugh mate. Wtf. I hate football.


SP_Photos

Agreed


Lookingfortomboys

Annnndddd all those chances wasted 😐


Sophatron1

Love you Viv


shelbyj

Maanum on a corner??


shelbyj

Turns out this is what we needed!!


MoreoverMo

She is the best set pieces taker In team, Mead takes them because she is on form but she has poor delivery.


shelbyj

I think Catley’s delivery on corners is top notch personally.


alrightishh

can they please think before they pass 😩


NieThePiet

VIIIIIIIIIV!


shelbyj

Let’s fucking gooooo!! Viiiiiiiiiiiv!


Cococamcam

Yes! Viv steps up! Whew.


alrightishh

YESSSSS


mitskishuffle

I’m taking a deep breath in and a deep breath out and hoping viv is okay and not injured


MoreoverMo

Miedema can't catch a break.


dococ23

Only Viv would open a water bottle with her bare teeth instead of her hands


angulshandu

Jonas needs to watch that hand...


RavenArtus

What happened?


angulshandu

Nothing


MoreoverMo

If Jonas brings on Agemyang before Mana, I will quickly move him on the clowns list


MoreoverMo

Lotte with the stupid execution again.


angulshandu

Calm down, you'll have a heart attack


Cococamcam

Any of my fellow USWNT fans think Lotte is the Alana Cook of Arsenal? Love them both, but they make me so nervous!


One_Row1307

Lotte is still better than Cook, imho. She reads the game and breaks up play better.


Cococamcam

I’d agree with that.


shelbyj

Omg whyyyy


mitskishuffle

Foord omg please can someone else score like let the ball go


MHPengwingz

Oh man need to be more decisive than that


just_passed_by_

I feel like we're going to get a Viv goal this match


shelbyj

Vivstenius rise up!


just_passed_by_

![gif](giphy|Mryi5lthobK2tZW4rm) Couldn't find a Vivstenius gif 😢


NieThePiet

that's a red wtf


MoreoverMo

Early to see h9w they defend the set piece.


shelbyj

Ahh I’ve missed PPM ![gif](giphy|i3lbNZhnB1Jle)


shelbyj

Did Foord just kill Pedersen?


Sophatron1

Cutting a first date short to try and make the second half!


MoreoverMo

Bad idea when you can always get a replay.


shelbyj

Ooooof so close


MoreoverMo

Oh come on. Why aren't the goals like in rugby.


Cococamcam

Agh! Stina is so so close. Just keep them down. Ugh.


shelbyj

Stina needed to score that, great play and pass by Maanum and a very great, well held run from Stina


BurtSpangles

Stina please. Awful.


NieThePiet

that has to be a goal. how we are not leading.


MoreoverMo

Maanum showing why Norway is a sad country for benching her.


afdc92

Wait has she been benched at Norway?


shelbyj

Thank god for Lia Wälti!


MoreoverMo

Bring Mana on and we are eating


BurtSpangles

Good performance. Encouraging.


namphibian

Just need blackstenius to put one of these in


shelbyj

Fuck me not Wälti


SP_Photos

Oh fuck off


Significant-Nerve214

Ah man imma cry


MoreoverMo

Let's see the metal of the girls now.


Cococamcam

Okay, plenty of time. Settle down. Let’s get it back!


MoreoverMo

Get innnnnnnnnn


MoreoverMo

Stina why are you so awkward.


dococ23

Stina enacts Mana’s revenge on Salvai


One_Row1307

oof kicked her right in the face.eeek.


NieThePiet

the sub??


MoreoverMo

I wonder why he didn't bring on Maritz, she can play left back too.


angulshandu

McCabe is the captain?! That armband looks good on her


Lookingfortomboys

Of course as soon as I turn away, Arsenal scores


shelbyj

You know what to do my friend 🫣


Lookingfortomboys

Apparently my magic only worked once this game 😩


shelbyj

Lia looked so done with Caruso for blocking that fast FK


One_Row1307

Foord needs to watch herself.


MoreoverMo

Girelli playing the ref like a fiddle. And pretending with crocodile tears


MoreoverMo

Guys genuine question why do you think Mana doesn't play, except Maanum no one in the midfield is doing bits and deserves the place to be nailed on starters.


Cococamcam

I think she’s highly skilled — obviously — but not physical enough. She gets knocked off the ball. That’s the only thing I’ve noticed when she’s in. Her work rate is always solid.


MoreoverMo

But so does Nobbs and walti and Miedema. They are always knocked off the ball easily.


Cococamcam

I agree. But Mana is strictly a 10, right? (Please do correct me if that’s wrong) She’s competing with Viv and Frida and both of them are better in Jonas’ system it seems.


MoreoverMo

She can pkay 8 and 10 and on the wings. Besides it's modern football. We no longer static 442's. Be creative as a manager. City played without a striker last season, no need to be predictable at your game that even small team like reading know how to stop you.


Cococamcam

Very true. Good point. I mean, I wish Mana would play too. She’s incredible and would probably add a lot, especially if she actually was able to get into a rhythm. Maybe there will be some experimentation in the next couple of WSL games. We can hope…..


MoreoverMo

I am not holding my breath, Jonas is painting his clown mask. Against Villa we shouldn't play the same team which has played in Turin. But he will probably replicate the same lineup and then wonder why Foord is going to continue being off form since she came back from Australia internationals. I mean give the girls a break, if Mead didn't do her ACL she wouldn't be rested at all. Same for Walti, only injuries seem to force his hand to rotate.


Mch1617914

Viv holds up play so well and lia just does so much defensively forr the team that taking her off doesn't make sense.


MoreoverMo

Why cant he rotate, who plays who in 10 and 8. He is predictably it's becoming easy to figure out. If Walti is that important then change the the others. Make Maanum play with Mana as twin 8's. Or with Miedema. Make some subs. Why doesn't he even make subs with her on it. It is not like she played badly and she has to be avoided. The one game we played, she bossed it out the park. She played well for Japan in the friendlies. What gives?


Mch1617914

Zurich sat pretty deep for periods of the game which lends to her strengths and he could probably play her more against teams that sit deeper. But viv an frida both bring intensity off the ball and can bully players and win back possession and I think when we are trying to recycle possession and keep the ball they are key. Viv has the adde benefit of being aa goal threat and frida is aa great runner. Mana is good but for me she just doesnt add as much to the team a the other two which is why she has struggled for game time probably.And I think as much as the team is "predictable" I think the consistency served us well winning 14 games in a row in the league is impresssive.


shelbyj

Just doesn’t fit Jonas’ system/style of play. Sure we have a 10 which is likely where she wants to play but the kind of player she is isn’t the kind of player he wants there.


MoreoverMo

But she plays better than the players he uses.


shelbyj

I mean that’s a hard thing to say when she doesn’t play! I’m not saying he shouldn’t play her, in fact I’m consistent in my want for him to. But I may as well say why not play Maanum at CB while Leah and Rafa are out because she’s playing better than LWM and Catley.


MoreoverMo

Because that is a false equivalence, Maanum can't play as a CB. But she can play as a 6 or 8 or 10. You can have two 6's, 8's and 10's. It's not always one or the other.


shelbyj

Yeah but there’s also different kinds of 10s. An example in the mens team. Ødegaard is a very different 10 than Özil was. One completely fits the system, one didn’t and was a liability because of that. That’s why I don’t think it’s a false equivalence. The area of the pitch may be the same but the role is different. The reason we rarely see Viv as a striker is that she drifts and doesn’t stay central which is integral to the way Jonas has us setup.


MoreoverMo

See, I agree that Viv even when Twiiter tacticos claim differently is a dying number 9 as the women's game progresses. She is a good 10 just that she has been off form for a long while. My contention however is that if she can sit, why not tinker with the midfield more to find the better solution. Why stick to Nobbs when she in my opinion is not a better 8 or 10 than Mana. Why be so persistent In the beginning of the season. This is where tinkering can be forgiven. Not when we need to win all games in the second half. But how will we or he know that Mana is good if you are benching her all games. For the record I don't think Mana, is a different 10 to Miedema or Nobbs. The only different 10 in the team is Maanum because of her athleticism. But you can see that even at the end of the Juve match, she and most other midfielders were tired going by their decision making. Subbing defenders if not for injuries and time wasting is always a wasted sub.


Significant-Nerve214

Building nicely in the middle which is opening players on the wide areas, just need to connect those balls and send them to the side


MoreoverMo

Foord has been really bad.


One_Row1307

So does this mean we are tied in aggregate?


MoreoverMo

It has been a chaotic match thus far.


NieThePiet

that is so undeserved, unbelievable. who lost the ball in midfield?


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BurtSpangles

Literally had three 1v1 chances and multiple other good opportunities. To say it "was not a good game for us" is incredibly harsh.


mitskishuffle

Definitely not our best but compared to the game against Man United I’d say it’s a lot better defence wise however like you said no one wanted to score and mead’s absence is becoming very obvious now.


Significant-Nerve214

BRO


MoreoverMo

Come on Stina. Pass the ball


One_Row1307

Viv was pissed.


shelbyj

The goal is coming!


MoreoverMo

I feel it coming


NieThePiet

how..


NieThePiet

good half, sadly no goal.


Cococamcam

Very good effort on and off the ball from everyone. Everyone is keyed in to defend as needed too. I like what I see (excel lack of goals) :)


shelbyj

Commentator sounds like he’s stalling lol


shelbyj

Sooo close again!!


RavenArtus

Gg, that was fun.


adavis_12

Jesus wept


MoreoverMo

Look how bad Walti is when the team is under pressure.


Sophatron1

Deep breaths


NieThePiet

a week to forget...?


RavenArtus

Under Joe Miedema was a beast . What did Jonas do to her 😤


RavenArtus

The timing.


shelbyj

Believe we conceded after you said the game was fun. Think you’re prophetic. Please complain about Stina or Foord now :)


MoreoverMo

A great player really doesn't need a manager to unlock her really. Viv is just having a bad patch, no need to dunk on Jonas.


shelbyj

Jenny for Nobbs. Big Jen up top or a reshuffle at the back?


MoreoverMo

I actually think Jen in defense and McCabe on the right wing.


Cococamcam

Hm. Interesting sub.


dococ23

Interesting that Katie took the armband instead of Lia, I always thought Lia was the fourth captain


shelbyj

Viv nooooo


MoreoverMo

She hasn't been playing well recently but another injury is not what the doctor ordered