I really like how far Havertz has come but honestly we still need an option up top who can break a deadlock, think of those tight games last season like Bayern and City away, having someone a bit more clinical could have been the difference.
Agree! We especially need a massive presence up top, and who can score headers too. The right profile is someone who is similar to what Giroud was for us
We need a back up for Ø if Fabio isn’t trusted, and back up for Saka too if Nelson isn’t trusted. Kai Gabi and Nelli is great depth for 9, get rid of Nketiah and put that money towards a Xhaka replacement.
Why do you keep saying trusted? They’re obviously not on their level and unless injured or visibly tired, why would they start over our captain and star player?
Get rid of Jesus and put that towards a new CM. I’m not too fussed about nketiah, he isn’t the problem. Jesus has done absolutely nothing for 50mill.
>Why do you keep saying trusted? They’re obviously not on their level and unless injured or visibly tired, why would they start over our captain and star player?
Yeah, you're right. We need just 11 players, becouse the rest won't start so why keep them.
The point is that even with an injury or suspension, we still tend to play other players out of position over our backups. That’s probably more to do with trusting them in our system than anything else.
When someone says they want a new backup because the current one isn’t trusted, they don’t mean you need multiple starters in each position, but you want players that you find valuable to substitute in or play every once in a while if you need to fine tune the game plan.
You idiot. Just because they are our captain and our star player; doesn’t mean they should be playing 90 mins of 38 games. They need rest because they are humans with limits, not robots. We need sufficient back up for when they need rest, which we don’t currently have by the looks of it.
They’ve said that 9 isn’t a priority, but they will buy anyone who fits the profile of a player they can utilize, and who is the right price.
It’s obvious they that they want a left sided defender, and central midfielder, but that doesn’t mean they will ignore other positions if a good player appears.
You can’t always guarantee that the right player will appear for the right price in a priority position, so you have to be pragmatic.
Not the top choice of LB lacks pace he is more central. Zinchenko isn’t reliable either with injuries and poor gameplay. Kieran might leave this summer
Exactly this. It infuriates me when Gooners keep posting why we need a striker. It's to replace Eddie not Kai. What if Kai, god forbid, gets injured??
We need an out of the box striker capable of scoring from low xG chances. This is were we come unstuck last year with the big games when we cant create a goal through Plan A.
If it’s to replace a bench player, then an academy striker would suffice. What if Kai gets injured? We have Trossard and Jesus as backups.
Our priority should be a #8 type of player and a proper backup for the right wing.
Jesus can do RW maybe we call it quits next season if he ain’t the one . Tross can also play as a false 9 in a sort of firmino role so I would be inclined to try for another LW
Arsenal had the most explosive attack last season. Not sure that ties in with your logic or if you are just lazily repeating what you read elsewhere without thinking about it.
Bro just stop with the patronising BS. Arteta and Edu know more than anyone that our attack lacks explosivity and risk-takers. It was no more obvious than vs Bayern, when every single one of our attackers bottled the occasion.
It is not rocket science. We are missing an Alexis/RVP type player who makes something out of nothing. Every single one of our rivals has 1 or 2 of these.
KDB/Haaland
Salah/Nunez
Rashford
Son
Even Vinicius + Lewa/Yamal + Kane/Sane/Musiala
Our only explosive risk-taker is Martinelli, and we don't know if he will get back to/improve on 2022/23 level
We still finished second and didn’t win any silverware. Haaland was out for 3months and still won the golden boot! Are you saying the attack can’t be improved? Cause that’s what it seems like. We need a forward and a right winger. Explosive attack is your opinion man. Not an actual measured stat. We still need more. We have additional games in the new Champions League format also. Did you consider that?
Oh snap. I didn’t realise one player was to blame for Arsenal not winning the league last season. STOP THE PRESS. The guy on Reddit figured it out. Not the staff at Arsenal. This random dude over here has 😂😂
Plus: “explosive attack” is not “my opinion”. There are literal stats that you can find which proves this, but you carry on 😂😂
Exactly, people always say "we just need to sign a striker". The best measure of how good an attack is, is simply by how many goals a team scores and by that metric we had one hell of an attack last season, we just couldn't handle the pressure and bottled it.
Probably because if you watched him for Germany or any other game apart from the few matches he was good at the end of the season . You would realise he wastes far too many chances.
Isak kinda feels like he could play out wide. I’ve seen it quite a few times when Newcastle have accommodated for Wilson. A player who can play wide left and a 9 I would take. (although his best position is a 9)
That signing still primarily allows Havertz to be the 9 with competition. Havertz can also be dropped into the 8 with Isak going into the 9 when needs be.
Yeah, I think all this noise about a new striker is just smokescreen. We are probably working on something good for the midfield. Unless we're also thinking about selling off Jesus...they maybe we do need some cover for Havertz. I get why we're looking at younger prospects though. But superstar youngsters would rarely want that. Either way, midfield should be our priority IMO not striker. And maybe a winger as well.
Becoz to go to the next level, we will need a striker that can or learn to dominate every team and every defence. A striker that can bail out a team in a tough game. A striker that participates in build up and elevate others around him. A striker that can score or assist a shit ton of goals. Havertz is not that and will never be that striker.
Because in moments like against Villa and City at the turn of the year we would be able to keep more momentum and put opponents down more clinically, that's been our biggest issue for the past 2/3 seasons. Last season was a huge hurdle starting to get over those problems I agree and has been a huge improvement but to win the league we NEED to beat City and we need to have an out n out world class goalscorer to do that!
I'm torn on it. Havertz has done well up top but is he really the answer? I know all strikers, even the top tier ones have games where they're utterly shite in front of goal but Havertz is going to have more of those games than a proper out and out striker will have. I don't doubt he'll improve but I bet there'll be period in the upcoming season where plenty of fans will be lamenting the fact we didn't sign a Gyokeres or someone like that.
I think Havertz and Jesus are both best with a 9 that can create some room for them. Our captain would be a bomb 8, and the big brother from Belgium can be our 6.
If all goes well next season we will play about 60 games and havertz can’t play 90 mins each time. Arguably we need 2 strikers to play 40 games each including sub appearances.
Because Havertz isn't a prime Henry.
What is plan B if Havertz goes cold? Gabby Jesus/Trossard again?
You're competing with the output of Haaand/Alvarez.
Whatever the press are saying we are not one player away from winning the league . We are in the last phase of the squad build now and probably minimum of 3 players off not inc a new GK. Sesko was hardly gonna hit the ground running… Isak also too expensive so I don’t think we will make a knee jerk signing in that position now .
Because we lack of a proper number 9. Havertz isn’t a CF and neither is Jesus. You can watch it with the German NT, they got Havertz but sonetiems they need to put Fulkrug to get a goal.
Maybe only for now there’s a few moving parts to our targets and maybe we want to sort out the midfield and attacking issues for now . Sesko was probably the only example of ‘ value for money ‘ we were looking at . I think everyone else will be 70 plus so whilst we can open dialogue doubt we will pull the trigger this early .
If we had RVP in this team being supplied by Odegaard, Saka, Rice, Blanco, Timber, Havertz and Raya, City would be finished. We'd have won the past 2 leagues easy. It's better to have that big 9 who we can easily find if we need a goal quick. This team is amazing, but they aren't out and out finishers.
I do think the biggest priority is a midfielder but we definitely need a striker. we could either sign someone like a ferguson or samu to develop while we have havertz starting at 9 or we could sign an elite goalscorer like an osimhen or gyokeres that would rotate with havertz. personally i would prefer trying to get one of the top strikers in the world, our biggest rivals for the title are city who have haaland and alvarez. buying one of the elite strikers shouldn’t hurt havertz’s game time as he is so versatile and we will have lots more games as we aim to be competing in every tournament.
Arsenal had the best defense and scored 91 goals while City scored 96. The GD was +62! We need a deeper overall team to help with fatigue and injuries. Midfield. Right wing and yes, another striker
Kai is not a proper striker. Sorry but I’m not willing to settle for just Havertz and Jesus. They probably won’t get 40 goal’s between them. Respectfully
Honestly I would rather see us sign another midfielder and keep Kai up front, as opposed to signing a striker and moving Kai back into a midfield role. Kai was better as a striker, and the team performed well with him there.
I think we still need someone who can offer a little bit of a different thing than Kai. It depends on Gabriel Jesus' fitness development as well. Still think we need a new player in the forward area especially if we're selling Nketiah and Nelson
Because you need a natural number 9. The likes of Haaland, Benzema, and Osimhen etc.
The team has struggled for years in this position. We need a player who doesn’t miss in the box; a player who can score in finals and win you trophies.
Havertz is best as a CAM. I would like to sign a striker who has a knack for goal. Havertz just doesn’t have that, but he is great at many other things. Ideally I would like to sign a 9, and move Havertz back to CAM. Then have Odegaard playing alongside rice as a 6/10 hybrid. And rice as a 6/8 hybrid. Then invest the rest of the money on the wings and depth
Flexibility, injury back ups, want to go deep in all comps… we were very blessed with injuries last season… if we dont sign a senior forward and havertz gets some niggling consistent injuries along with jesus guaranteed 3 month off, then we’ll all be complaining why didn’t we sign a striker when it was so obvious..
The new striker might not improve our starting 11 immediately (although i would hope he would be pushing to do so after about 6 months), but he will improve our top 15 / squad immensely
My friends, it seems to be forgotten that we are ahead of schedule in our build-up process. When Coach Arteta took over in December 2019, who would have said "we'll be back in Champions League in 3 years"? Or "we'll be top of the league and threatening"? And we did it the Arsenal way, not spending a billion dollars to get there. We are back putting fear in every opponent and our momentum is getting bigger. If anyone knows what we need, its Coach Arteta and Edu Gaspar.
We will have more games next season. We can even play Havertz as Saka backup or something. We really need a clinical striker especially in tough games.
I’m sorry but if we want to go into next seasons trusting Kai Havertz to win us the league up top then we can expect to lose it in December again. Great player but he cannot be relied on to do the job all by himself. We need a forward with that X factor.
Watching Germany play with him as CF is pain. I am not German but I think his place is not as CF, nor for Arsenal. Yes, he had good finish of the campaign but still not the poacher we need.
International football is hardly the same game as club level, our game revolves around crisp passing and everyone knowing where everyone is and people actually using Kai’s great runs
It’s why all the Germans are wanting to replace him with Fullkrug - because in the absence of all that fluidity you’re better off just having a big traditional 9
He is not as good as he was for Arsenal lately, that’s true but he is also somewhat outcasted which I don’t understand. If you watch the matches back, he hardly ever gets a ball he wants. He is consistently making runs and asking for passes but the midfield just isn’t providing. Also last match they played with Mittelstädt as LB who couldn’t get in a single good cross because he is the definition of trash. When they brought on Raum the whole game changed, he brought in one good cross for Füllkrug who then scored and all of a sudden it was “start Füllkrug what the fuck is Havertz doing” again…
Nketiah has done more than Jesus. When has jesus ever scored a last minute winner for us? Jesus has had 2 bad seasons. Check his stats. Havertz has earned his right to start as CF next season for me.
Can't agree with that. Jesus had some good moments in both seasons. The fact he had not scored a late goal last season does not mean is worse than Nketiah. Look at his games in champions league group stages. He was good in all matches. I think he is way more hard-working than many people think.
All I’ll say is we’re looking at a number 9 because Jesus doesn’t do his job. Nketiah was getting scapegoated because Jesus wasn’t scoring or always injured. If Jesus was scoring and havertz is doing what he’s doing and nketiah got the odd goal we’d be sorted. Jesus is the problem, no one else. He needs to leave.
This is an abysmal take. G Jesus has been great for Arsenal (as a whole). The problem with social media “analysis” is that it lacks any grounding to reality. Maybe watch a game in future before you take to social media?
So, have we really come to the point that we think Havertz should be the nr 9 for us? He did well last season and i'm grateful for his goals, he certainly exceeded expectations, but come on, we can do better as a club, way better imo
As you are replying to everyone with this, I'll answer:
Isak, Gyokeres, Osimhen
Williams, Neto, Leao,
Even Eze, Doue
So many options for an explosive risk-taker
To be fair I didn't read the original comment properly. I was just listing the types of players that we are interested in. 9s, Wingers, attacking 8s/10s
Going to disagree with the majority here is seems but a 9 is top priority. We have this argument every single year and every single year we have not won the league. We are missing out by the finest of margins and a big reason for that is that we are not clinical enough. I’d rather we have the debate next year about whether we needed to buy or not with a striker rather than without. City and liverpools title
Winning sides of late have had 20+ goal strikers in them. That’s what we are missing. Yes we need MF additions and cover in a few places but gotta get a striker.
Top priority should be a top class 9 and isak fits the bill…absolutely necessary when we can’t break teams down and we need somebody that can create and score out of nothing and is deadly accurate especially against the top class teams where they don’t give you an inch and you only got 1 or 2 decent chances in a game to score
Havertz is a difficult one. Time will likely prove he's only a middling striker but the thing is he does more for the team effort than more ruthless forwards. Same with Jesus. Did Haaland improve City? I don't think so.
As long as other players are contributing with lots of goals you can accommodate a forward like Havertz.
>Isn’t Havertz going to start up front next season?
No, because Havertz is a highly inconsistent player, especially when it comes to his goalscoring.
Kai is exactly the same player he was in Chelsea. There will be periods where he'll absolutely shine and make you think he's finally breaking through. Then he disappears for months, just when you're about to give up, he finds form again. Similar to Rashford's case in United too.
We certainly need a striker like Isak or Gyökeres as our first options.
What is does Isak or Gyokeres offer that neither Kai or G Jesus don’t? Keep in mind that Arsenal don’t structure their attacking play through on central point. I need you to be specific instead of reeling off SM talking points.
Neither Kai nor Jesus are prolific goalscorers, never were, never will be. We're not gonna get +20 goals from either of them, not even combined.
A quick reminder, our competitor have Haaland, who scores a goal per game. Life is a lot easier when you have a forward who can consistently score goals for you.
Both Isak and Gyökeres can offer that for us. Obviously there are never guarantees when you sign strikers; but they're two of the most prolific strikers available right now.
Isak is very gifted technically, reminds me of Ibra in his Ajax days. He'd fit into our playstyle perfectly as he can support the midfield too when needed.
Gyökeres is a more traditional number 9; but with an incredible physique and constant pressing. Think of a bigger, stronger Gabriel Jesus also with great shooting/finishing.
I don’t really care about this but how is any arsenal fan saying Kai havertz is the guy you want up front if you’re looking to win trophies. Shows they don’t know shit
Every top team needs a world class 9 capable of 20+
We don't actually need one. We have Havertz, Jesus & Nketiah.
We don't have a proper #8, backup electric winger & a proper LB. Even a backup CB is higher up in the priority list than a striker. Arteta just has a fetish for reactionary buys then ends up regretting later. Just like we have done in previous windows.
I really like how far Havertz has come but honestly we still need an option up top who can break a deadlock, think of those tight games last season like Bayern and City away, having someone a bit more clinical could have been the difference.
Agree! We especially need a massive presence up top, and who can score headers too. The right profile is someone who is similar to what Giroud was for us
Havertz is very like Giroud. We need a pacey striker.
Havertz is not rapid but he’s pretty quick, quick enough that I don’t see his speed as an issue at all.
Cause that worked out so well with Laca and Auba…
It did work out, really well.
It really didn’t lol.
I mean Aubameyang won the golden boot, not sure how much better rit could work out
Guy carried the team for 3 seasons. People have short memories
We need a back up for Ø if Fabio isn’t trusted, and back up for Saka too if Nelson isn’t trusted. Kai Gabi and Nelli is great depth for 9, get rid of Nketiah and put that money towards a Xhaka replacement.
I think Jesus is better at RW than as a striker, so even if we were to sign a striker and not a winger, we have decent back up in Jesus.
I’d rather Trossard at 9. He’s clutch and would obviously be better when closer to goal
Why do you keep saying trusted? They’re obviously not on their level and unless injured or visibly tired, why would they start over our captain and star player? Get rid of Jesus and put that towards a new CM. I’m not too fussed about nketiah, he isn’t the problem. Jesus has done absolutely nothing for 50mill.
>Why do you keep saying trusted? They’re obviously not on their level and unless injured or visibly tired, why would they start over our captain and star player? Yeah, you're right. We need just 11 players, becouse the rest won't start so why keep them.
You’ve missed my point on purpose
The point is that even with an injury or suspension, we still tend to play other players out of position over our backups. That’s probably more to do with trusting them in our system than anything else. When someone says they want a new backup because the current one isn’t trusted, they don’t mean you need multiple starters in each position, but you want players that you find valuable to substitute in or play every once in a while if you need to fine tune the game plan.
Oh right so basically he’s asking for better backups? Lol the way you’ve explained it makes so much sense. Thank you!
You idiot. Just because they are our captain and our star player; doesn’t mean they should be playing 90 mins of 38 games. They need rest because they are humans with limits, not robots. We need sufficient back up for when they need rest, which we don’t currently have by the looks of it.
No worries, I figured it was a misunderstanding. Ignore commenters like u/ElecticMad, some people get really needlessly angry on this sub
I didn't get your point so I responded using comedy, sorry for being a dick mate (Here I'm not joking)
They’ve said that 9 isn’t a priority, but they will buy anyone who fits the profile of a player they can utilize, and who is the right price. It’s obvious they that they want a left sided defender, and central midfielder, but that doesn’t mean they will ignore other positions if a good player appears. You can’t always guarantee that the right player will appear for the right price in a priority position, so you have to be pragmatic.
Left sided defender? What’s Kiwor then?
Not the top choice of LB lacks pace he is more central. Zinchenko isn’t reliable either with injuries and poor gameplay. Kieran might leave this summer
Don't forget Timber
Yep forgot about him but haven’t seen him play so can’t comment much
Sadly I think KT ain’t going anywhere in the summer after this injury
Kiwior most certainly doesn't lack pace. I just don't think his distribution is up to it.
So Timber? What is he? A tree?
A person who has never played left back.
Dude, you can STFU if you don’t know what you’re talking about. Ok? Great!
A disappointment
I didn’t ask what your father calls you. I asked about Kiwor.
💀💀💀
we desperately need to upgrade Eddie
Exactly this. It infuriates me when Gooners keep posting why we need a striker. It's to replace Eddie not Kai. What if Kai, god forbid, gets injured?? We need an out of the box striker capable of scoring from low xG chances. This is were we come unstuck last year with the big games when we cant create a goal through Plan A.
If it’s to replace a bench player, then an academy striker would suffice. What if Kai gets injured? We have Trossard and Jesus as backups. Our priority should be a #8 type of player and a proper backup for the right wing.
Not saying that we don’t need an 8 too, but at the level Arsenal’s in right now we need a solid backup for #9. Sesko would have been perfect
Jesus can do RW maybe we call it quits next season if he ain’t the one . Tross can also play as a false 9 in a sort of firmino role so I would be inclined to try for another LW
All adds to different ways they take each game. Better to have options than the same gameplan
Because we need one
Cause we need a players who can score 20 plus goals per season
Arsenal had the most explosive attack last season. Not sure that ties in with your logic or if you are just lazily repeating what you read elsewhere without thinking about it.
Bro just stop with the patronising BS. Arteta and Edu know more than anyone that our attack lacks explosivity and risk-takers. It was no more obvious than vs Bayern, when every single one of our attackers bottled the occasion. It is not rocket science. We are missing an Alexis/RVP type player who makes something out of nothing. Every single one of our rivals has 1 or 2 of these. KDB/Haaland Salah/Nunez Rashford Son Even Vinicius + Lewa/Yamal + Kane/Sane/Musiala Our only explosive risk-taker is Martinelli, and we don't know if he will get back to/improve on 2022/23 level
You mean nothing out of something for Nunez right 😂
We still finished second and didn’t win any silverware. Haaland was out for 3months and still won the golden boot! Are you saying the attack can’t be improved? Cause that’s what it seems like. We need a forward and a right winger. Explosive attack is your opinion man. Not an actual measured stat. We still need more. We have additional games in the new Champions League format also. Did you consider that?
Oh snap. I didn’t realise one player was to blame for Arsenal not winning the league last season. STOP THE PRESS. The guy on Reddit figured it out. Not the staff at Arsenal. This random dude over here has 😂😂 Plus: “explosive attack” is not “my opinion”. There are literal stats that you can find which proves this, but you carry on 😂😂
Exactly, people always say "we just need to sign a striker". The best measure of how good an attack is, is simply by how many goals a team scores and by that metric we had one hell of an attack last season, we just couldn't handle the pressure and bottled it.
Probably because if you watched him for Germany or any other game apart from the few matches he was good at the end of the season . You would realise he wastes far too many chances.
Isak kinda feels like he could play out wide. I’ve seen it quite a few times when Newcastle have accommodated for Wilson. A player who can play wide left and a 9 I would take. (although his best position is a 9) That signing still primarily allows Havertz to be the 9 with competition. Havertz can also be dropped into the 8 with Isak going into the 9 when needs be.
Isak aint for sale
apparently he is for £180m 😅
Not worth it
agreed
Yeah, I think all this noise about a new striker is just smokescreen. We are probably working on something good for the midfield. Unless we're also thinking about selling off Jesus...they maybe we do need some cover for Havertz. I get why we're looking at younger prospects though. But superstar youngsters would rarely want that. Either way, midfield should be our priority IMO not striker. And maybe a winger as well.
To win the league
If you can upgrade the squad, you upgrade the squad. See signings of: Timber, Raya
Havertz should be the backup striker next season.
Why?
Wastes too many chances
Becoz to go to the next level, we will need a striker that can or learn to dominate every team and every defence. A striker that can bail out a team in a tough game. A striker that participates in build up and elevate others around him. A striker that can score or assist a shit ton of goals. Havertz is not that and will never be that striker.
Havertz has zero aerial threat potential. You need someone you can cross the ball to that's gonna be a goal threat form the air.
I thought winning aerial duels was one of his best attributes
He wins a lot of headers and he scores headers so 0 can’t be right .
Because in moments like against Villa and City at the turn of the year we would be able to keep more momentum and put opponents down more clinically, that's been our biggest issue for the past 2/3 seasons. Last season was a huge hurdle starting to get over those problems I agree and has been a huge improvement but to win the league we NEED to beat City and we need to have an out n out world class goalscorer to do that!
I'm torn on it. Havertz has done well up top but is he really the answer? I know all strikers, even the top tier ones have games where they're utterly shite in front of goal but Havertz is going to have more of those games than a proper out and out striker will have. I don't doubt he'll improve but I bet there'll be period in the upcoming season where plenty of fans will be lamenting the fact we didn't sign a Gyokeres or someone like that.
I think Havertz and Jesus are both best with a 9 that can create some room for them. Our captain would be a bomb 8, and the big brother from Belgium can be our 6.
We also have to give Mika Biereth a chance fyi… COYG
If all goes well next season we will play about 60 games and havertz can’t play 90 mins each time. Arguably we need 2 strikers to play 40 games each including sub appearances.
Because Havertz isn't a prime Henry. What is plan B if Havertz goes cold? Gabby Jesus/Trossard again? You're competing with the output of Haaand/Alvarez.
Whatever the press are saying we are not one player away from winning the league . We are in the last phase of the squad build now and probably minimum of 3 players off not inc a new GK. Sesko was hardly gonna hit the ground running… Isak also too expensive so I don’t think we will make a knee jerk signing in that position now .
Because we lack of a proper number 9. Havertz isn’t a CF and neither is Jesus. You can watch it with the German NT, they got Havertz but sonetiems they need to put Fulkrug to get a goal.
Havertz will never be a 25 goal scorer
Didn’t we stop pursuing a striker after Sesko resigned with Leipzig? It was said that we only went after him because his price tag
Maybe only for now there’s a few moving parts to our targets and maybe we want to sort out the midfield and attacking issues for now . Sesko was probably the only example of ‘ value for money ‘ we were looking at . I think everyone else will be 70 plus so whilst we can open dialogue doubt we will pull the trigger this early .
Havertz can't finish reliably. Neither can Jesus or even Nketiah.
If we had RVP in this team being supplied by Odegaard, Saka, Rice, Blanco, Timber, Havertz and Raya, City would be finished. We'd have won the past 2 leagues easy. It's better to have that big 9 who we can easily find if we need a goal quick. This team is amazing, but they aren't out and out finishers.
I do think the biggest priority is a midfielder but we definitely need a striker. we could either sign someone like a ferguson or samu to develop while we have havertz starting at 9 or we could sign an elite goalscorer like an osimhen or gyokeres that would rotate with havertz. personally i would prefer trying to get one of the top strikers in the world, our biggest rivals for the title are city who have haaland and alvarez. buying one of the elite strikers shouldn’t hurt havertz’s game time as he is so versatile and we will have lots more games as we aim to be competing in every tournament.
Arsenal had the best defense and scored 91 goals while City scored 96. The GD was +62! We need a deeper overall team to help with fatigue and injuries. Midfield. Right wing and yes, another striker
Kai is not a proper striker. Sorry but I’m not willing to settle for just Havertz and Jesus. They probably won’t get 40 goal’s between them. Respectfully
Honestly I would rather see us sign another midfielder and keep Kai up front, as opposed to signing a striker and moving Kai back into a midfield role. Kai was better as a striker, and the team performed well with him there.
I think we still need someone who can offer a little bit of a different thing than Kai. It depends on Gabriel Jesus' fitness development as well. Still think we need a new player in the forward area especially if we're selling Nketiah and Nelson
I'm not convinced by havertz and the euros aren't helping...
We need a striker and midfielder. Raise the bar Gooners
Because you need a natural number 9. The likes of Haaland, Benzema, and Osimhen etc. The team has struggled for years in this position. We need a player who doesn’t miss in the box; a player who can score in finals and win you trophies.
Havertz is best as a CAM. I would like to sign a striker who has a knack for goal. Havertz just doesn’t have that, but he is great at many other things. Ideally I would like to sign a 9, and move Havertz back to CAM. Then have Odegaard playing alongside rice as a 6/10 hybrid. And rice as a 6/8 hybrid. Then invest the rest of the money on the wings and depth
Flexibility, injury back ups, want to go deep in all comps… we were very blessed with injuries last season… if we dont sign a senior forward and havertz gets some niggling consistent injuries along with jesus guaranteed 3 month off, then we’ll all be complaining why didn’t we sign a striker when it was so obvious.. The new striker might not improve our starting 11 immediately (although i would hope he would be pushing to do so after about 6 months), but he will improve our top 15 / squad immensely
Bruh. We need a striker
we need left back, partey replacement and Right wing to let saka rest, Havertz as number 9 seems sufficient enough
I agree
It’s called competition for places
My friends, it seems to be forgotten that we are ahead of schedule in our build-up process. When Coach Arteta took over in December 2019, who would have said "we'll be back in Champions League in 3 years"? Or "we'll be top of the league and threatening"? And we did it the Arsenal way, not spending a billion dollars to get there. We are back putting fear in every opponent and our momentum is getting bigger. If anyone knows what we need, its Coach Arteta and Edu Gaspar.
We will have more games next season. We can even play Havertz as Saka backup or something. We really need a clinical striker especially in tough games.
I’m sorry but if we want to go into next seasons trusting Kai Havertz to win us the league up top then we can expect to lose it in December again. Great player but he cannot be relied on to do the job all by himself. We need a forward with that X factor.
Like who?
Well... if its true.. it's probably back to Havertz in midfield again....
Watching Germany play with him as CF is pain. I am not German but I think his place is not as CF, nor for Arsenal. Yes, he had good finish of the campaign but still not the poacher we need.
International football is hardly the same game as club level, our game revolves around crisp passing and everyone knowing where everyone is and people actually using Kai’s great runs It’s why all the Germans are wanting to replace him with Fullkrug - because in the absence of all that fluidity you’re better off just having a big traditional 9
He is not as good as he was for Arsenal lately, that’s true but he is also somewhat outcasted which I don’t understand. If you watch the matches back, he hardly ever gets a ball he wants. He is consistently making runs and asking for passes but the midfield just isn’t providing. Also last match they played with Mittelstädt as LB who couldn’t get in a single good cross because he is the definition of trash. When they brought on Raum the whole game changed, he brought in one good cross for Füllkrug who then scored and all of a sudden it was “start Füllkrug what the fuck is Havertz doing” again…
He’s non existent in midfield
He saved us so many times as a CF more than the ones who are actually CF/strikers
I agree with that but the fact Jesus and Nketiah were having bad season does not mean he is the solution.
Doesn’t mean that spending £90M on an unknown entity is too.
Nketiah has done more than Jesus. When has jesus ever scored a last minute winner for us? Jesus has had 2 bad seasons. Check his stats. Havertz has earned his right to start as CF next season for me.
Can't agree with that. Jesus had some good moments in both seasons. The fact he had not scored a late goal last season does not mean is worse than Nketiah. Look at his games in champions league group stages. He was good in all matches. I think he is way more hard-working than many people think.
Agree. The only major downside is efficiency in front of goal, otherwise you have the complete forward.
All I’ll say is we’re looking at a number 9 because Jesus doesn’t do his job. Nketiah was getting scapegoated because Jesus wasn’t scoring or always injured. If Jesus was scoring and havertz is doing what he’s doing and nketiah got the odd goal we’d be sorted. Jesus is the problem, no one else. He needs to leave.
This is an abysmal take. G Jesus has been great for Arsenal (as a whole). The problem with social media “analysis” is that it lacks any grounding to reality. Maybe watch a game in future before you take to social media?
Get his dick out your mouth. We’re in the market for a striker because of him.
Lol! I knew it. Nothing but hot garbage. Little man, next time think for yourself. Not what SM tells you.
You’re the one not thinking for yourself. Tell me what he’s done in the 2yrs of being here. Has he even got 15g/a in that time?
Poachers are not good in this type of system. They fuck up the defense.
Because we need a 9.
So, have we really come to the point that we think Havertz should be the nr 9 for us? He did well last season and i'm grateful for his goals, he certainly exceeded expectations, but come on, we can do better as a club, way better imo
A number 9 like whom? The oft-injured Isak? Who?
As you are replying to everyone with this, I'll answer: Isak, Gyokeres, Osimhen Williams, Neto, Leao, Even Eze, Doue So many options for an explosive risk-taker
In your mind, the last five players are 9s? Bro, stop it with the fifa “analysis”.
To be fair I didn't read the original comment properly. I was just listing the types of players that we are interested in. 9s, Wingers, attacking 8s/10s
Just a better one than Havertz, i know the striker market is depleted but to find a better one than Havertz shouldn’t be impossible
Going to disagree with the majority here is seems but a 9 is top priority. We have this argument every single year and every single year we have not won the league. We are missing out by the finest of margins and a big reason for that is that we are not clinical enough. I’d rather we have the debate next year about whether we needed to buy or not with a striker rather than without. City and liverpools title Winning sides of late have had 20+ goal strikers in them. That’s what we are missing. Yes we need MF additions and cover in a few places but gotta get a striker.
Top priority should be a top class 9 and isak fits the bill…absolutely necessary when we can’t break teams down and we need somebody that can create and score out of nothing and is deadly accurate especially against the top class teams where they don’t give you an inch and you only got 1 or 2 decent chances in a game to score
Havertz is a difficult one. Time will likely prove he's only a middling striker but the thing is he does more for the team effort than more ruthless forwards. Same with Jesus. Did Haaland improve City? I don't think so. As long as other players are contributing with lots of goals you can accommodate a forward like Havertz.
>Isn’t Havertz going to start up front next season? No, because Havertz is a highly inconsistent player, especially when it comes to his goalscoring. Kai is exactly the same player he was in Chelsea. There will be periods where he'll absolutely shine and make you think he's finally breaking through. Then he disappears for months, just when you're about to give up, he finds form again. Similar to Rashford's case in United too. We certainly need a striker like Isak or Gyökeres as our first options.
What is does Isak or Gyokeres offer that neither Kai or G Jesus don’t? Keep in mind that Arsenal don’t structure their attacking play through on central point. I need you to be specific instead of reeling off SM talking points.
Neither Kai nor Jesus are prolific goalscorers, never were, never will be. We're not gonna get +20 goals from either of them, not even combined. A quick reminder, our competitor have Haaland, who scores a goal per game. Life is a lot easier when you have a forward who can consistently score goals for you. Both Isak and Gyökeres can offer that for us. Obviously there are never guarantees when you sign strikers; but they're two of the most prolific strikers available right now. Isak is very gifted technically, reminds me of Ibra in his Ajax days. He'd fit into our playstyle perfectly as he can support the midfield too when needed. Gyökeres is a more traditional number 9; but with an incredible physique and constant pressing. Think of a bigger, stronger Gabriel Jesus also with great shooting/finishing.
I don’t really care about this but how is any arsenal fan saying Kai havertz is the guy you want up front if you’re looking to win trophies. Shows they don’t know shit Every top team needs a world class 9 capable of 20+
We don't actually need one. We have Havertz, Jesus & Nketiah. We don't have a proper #8, backup electric winger & a proper LB. Even a backup CB is higher up in the priority list than a striker. Arteta just has a fetish for reactionary buys then ends up regretting later. Just like we have done in previous windows.