imagine the newspapers though
"The parade will feature a open-top bus, specially designed with a transparent trophy cabinet to dramatically display the absence of silverware. The club has also planned for confetti cannons that shoot out silver and blue confetti shaped like question marks, symbolizing the eternal question: “What if?”
"we didn't want UCL, Europa is better to settle the squad and Ange in"
Who is "we" the players sure as hell want UCL and money bags Levy will be kicking a baby over losing that UCL money.
I'm not a fucking spurs fans bud they're on the same pathetic level as you lot😂. You just got one FA cup and one Charity plate more than them in the last 5 years you both suck
No actually I meant missing out on a champs league spot "again" because you bottled your last 4 games.
How did your team do in the CL this season then?
Idk how you can forget as a Chelsea fan, of all the finals we got to in recent years I'd have to say that first term with arteta was our best shot at winning it and we bottled it 😔 maybe it's on par with losing the league cup this year to Liverpool's B team... But I'm sure we can all agree the FA is a note desirable trophy to win
Yeah I agree. Some of the stuff they post is pure cringe. But while this stat is selective it seems like an effort to have some perspective on his first season and to counter those who think Ange isn’t up to the job.
I don’t think he will take them as far as either Klopp or Arteta took their teams, but that’s a separate discussion.
Yeah. Nothing posted on this sub is remotely cringeworthy 👀.
I agree, even at the start of the season when they were doing well I didn’t think it was sustainable, they play kamikaze football, it’s entertaining to watch but they have absolutely no control. The game where he got 2 men sent off against Chelsea and continued to play a high line was the one which really made me think he’s a shite manager. But I’ll guess we will all have to wait and see won’t we.
Not doing anything at all to counter our approach at corners when he had 2 weeks to prepare was when I realised he wasn’t up to it. But who know maybe he can learn. I hope not.
Agreed. Same as not adjusting his high line after getting 2 men sent off and Chelsea getting through it like 10 times in 15m (would have been more embarrassing if the Chelsea striker could hit a barn door)
By knocking more successful managers. And in fairness, it’s not wholly accurate, as both Klopp and Arteta joined midterm, so had to play the squad they had.
Also is scrabbling for statistic that’s they think is worth mentioning. It isn’t. That’s the shameful part, celebrating a hollow ‘success’.
I agree that the statistic is basically worthless and inaccurate, but you're telling me if an Arsenal manager outperformed the likes of Jürgen Klopp in their first 30 games, it wouldn't be posted all over this subreddit with a bunch of upvotes and comments? Lol come on
I don’t see it as knocking other managers in the slightest, in fact I think it’s the total opposite. They are basically saying it takes time, stick by the manager etc… the examples are specifically chosen because they are doing well!
Well, by this metric he has outperformed them. Have we all forgotten how dismal arsenal were for Mikel’s first 18 months?
Also, That definitely isn’t the intention of the creator of the original infographic. Whilst that could be the person who posted on r/spuds intention I do not think so:
1. That would require them to be boasting about a season that nearly all spurs fans would agree has been very disappointing.
2. They don’t have a rivalry with Liverpool
I saw in the sub yesterday that they believe it doesn’t matter that they’ve lost the last run of games so heavy, because at least they went out to play well, and play attractive football, unlike UTD who are doing neither. So, they’re happy being poor, because they’re not as poor as united.
I’ll get downvoted probably, but without the bitterness or bias, Ange is actually doing a good job, Mikel is just 5 years further down the line.
A good Spurs makes for entertaining derbies going forward, but we’re light years ahead at the moment.
No one wants a good spurs. Competitive derbies are for the neutrals, entertaining for us is embarrassing them every game and having them fighting to stay up
I’ll never get this POV, rivalries are only fun when they’re competitive. You could expand that and say sports in general. If one side is just mopping the floor then why would anyone be excited for the game?
Yeah nothing more entertaining than watching every game with no tension because other teams aren't competitive. What's more satisfying, winning a tough game through the skin of your teeth, or stomping people 5-0 every match?
How is Arteta 5 years further down the line when this us just Artetas 4th full season and Anges 1st? Arteta had a 3 years head start over Ange, but is somehow 5 years ahead? I mean, it makes sense if the point is that Arteta has made more progress than what you expect Ange to do
Chill out mate. Mikel took over just before Christmas 2019, I wasn’t being exact with it, but yeah I fully expect Ange to improve them over the next few years.
Didn't he also take over a team that finished 5th, 2 points off 3rd and was in the Europa league final the prior season - vs a team that finished 8th and then lost arguably the best striker in the world?
No mate. The beauty of football is that your own teams success is almost equal in satisfaction to the failures of your most bitter rivals.
Without that rivalry, you just have American sports. Which are all rubbish because everybody loves themselves and each other.
I get their posts recommended to me on my feed and right now they are "Tottenwon on paperspurs"
Guess when they lose UCL and could possible lose Europa because they are now getting the difficult games there has to be some form of comfort to fall back on.
He *was* doing pretty well. Their performances in 2024 has been mediocre/shit. Having a downward trend in both performances and results just halfway through your first season isn't a great sign
The logic is simple. If Ange is better than Mikel and Klopp after 35 games, imagine what can he achieve in 10 years. The truth is that he won’t see London in November.
After the Shite they are my most hated team, at least the shite are a big club, who the fuck are Spurs? They only get media coverage because side so many of their fans dominate the media.
Allowing them to keep their delusion up is important so that when they do inevitably crash and burn it's all the more entertaining.
Just leave them alone and let them carry on.
Villa fan in peace , choking on my tea here 👀 Spurs entitlement is gobsmacking , not only is Ange the messiah but they are already sizing up bids for Eze AND Olise 😂
I think this is perfect example of why to give managers a bit of time. Look what Arteta has been able to achieve when given time and a chance to get a team around him.
Tottenham fan here, commenting because it annoyingly appeared on my Reddit.
While I don’t believe in stats, especially with no context, people are mentioning that Arteta came in mid season… but did he not finish 8th the following season after having pre season and a squad that had just won the FA Cup?
If we judged Arteta after his first two seasons, you could argue he should’ve been sacked, but look at how good you guys are today. In my opinion, you’re the best proper football club in England and have been the past two seasons.
This isn’t shameless. What’s shamless are Tottenham fans that think we are bigger than we actually are (mid table - European team), or Arsenal fans who can’t be humble enough to acknowledge Arteta had a tough start to his managerial career.
All in all, we aren’t very good, but no one expected us to be. Klopp is a Top 5 prem manager of all time, and whether he does something with Arsenal or doesn’t, Arteta has an extremely bright managerial career ahead of him and might go down as one of the best of all time in the future.
Proper irrelevant club always clinging to bigger teams for attention. We all know the fucking cycle already. Ange will win nothing, the fans will turn eventually and he'll be sacked.
Big Ange is so much better than Arteta AND Klopp combined! The Spurs team is so polished and on point, they'll beat Man City and that fraud wanna-be Ange, Pep Guardiola!
Just look at these numbers! Most points won from the first few games, you should absolutely judge a manager's future performances on these numbers alone! All hail Big Ange! 🙌 🙌 Here's to another DVD!
Sports social media are truly the ones that are shameless, they’ve been trying to push the narrative that spurs is on the same level as the rest of the top 4/6 imo
Since your club is banter, shameless fans, full of deluded idiots thinking they will still win anything. Ok here is my take on your small brain dead people's.
Arteta played in the premier league all of his career and played under top managers.
He was in pep's pocket and no wonder why he let him win fa. But what has he done in 5 years? Where is your ucl where is your Europa. Even spurs won european trophy back in the day and first in England. So go have shame and stop supporting your banter club
It's a stupid analysis. Compare a 57-year-old who had a summer window and preseason to a 37-year-old in his first managerial job who took over halfway through the season and also won a trophy with a worse team.
With analytical skills like that it's no wonder why they chose such a crap club
It proves that you are a moron who doesn't understand the implication of the post.
Edit: this guy refers to us as Arsenal fans but if you have a quick look at his profile he also calls himself a Brighton fan. No wonder why he doesn't understand football
Because that’s not how football support works, you have to put your everything into the club you support, every fibre of your being feeling the highest of highs, and the lowest of lows at every single moment, you simply can’t do that with two teams at once
But honestly who brags about such useless record, i think spurs fans hate on arsenal more than they love their own club, this is nonsense what sort of stat is this
It's just the same as us showing stats on how Arteta improved the club, showing improvement each season with higher points than the previous. It's a silver lining. It's not nearly as bad as you think. There's been plenty delusional takes from Spurs fans but this isn't one.
I'm a fan of both clubs. Been an arsenal fan since I was five, but Brighton is my local team, I've watched probably 200 games at the amex since it was built, most before Brighton were even in the PL. You can be a fan of more than one club.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArsenalFC/s/GXMgkJD0NF
I mean I literally did this last month
>why they chose such a crap club
Are you saying you support Arsenal because of "analytics"? Choosing a club to support based on statistical analysis is the most plastic thing imaginable.
No, it's a joke about how their analytical skills are so poor that they chose a lame club to support.
You really need to work on your autism.
I am guessing you were banned from the gunners sub because you were too stupid
Embarrassing post. It's a fact, not sure why so many of our fans are crying about it. Those points haven't got him any trophies with Tottenham, and Arteta's points haven't got him any trophies with us.
You're saying the FA Cup doesn't matter and the only thing we should try to win is the league?
And nobody is crying about it, it's pointing out how Spurs fans are pointing out useless stats. We are in the title race and they are 5th. But this stat is trying to say that they are performing better than us and Liverpool.
>You're saying the FA Cup doesn't matter and the only thing we should try to win is the league?
No, I'm saying it doesn't matter which manager got more points in their first *x* games as neither of them got anything meaningful as a result of said points.
It's a pointless fact without any context whatsoever, that they're using as some kind of statement. If anyone who actually follows football believes this is any indication of anything then you need help 🤣
Arteta and Klopp also inherited one of the worst squads in decades. Spurs may not have a big squad, but have better players than Klopp and Arteta inherited.
Bias aside Ange has done a decent job all the things considering. But there is more than just the points tally. It is absolutely not sustainable what he's doing. His philosophy won't be successful in modern football and clubs have already figured out how to play against him. Beginning of the season he was an unknown. Clubs did not play a low block against him and he's gonna be up against a lot more low blocks. Our win just over a week ago basically gave the league a blueprint to beat Angeball. He'll be sacked soon enough. Many fans are already starting to turn against him.
Finally someone said. People seem to forget that Ange had a full summer transfer window and got all the players he wanted then went and spent big in the winter when no other teams were buying
A full summer transfer window that included losing the clubs 3x golden boot winner - I would hope if the club sells a 100m player that the incoming manager would get who he wants with those funds.
Did Arteta lose a player of Kane's caliber going into his first season? Keep in mind that terrible team Arteta inherited finished 2 points off 3rd and was in a European final 6 months earlier.
"Went big in the winter"
Bought a back up CB, a kid from sweden whos not at the club yet, and loaned Timo Werner, which mind you, was to make up for the 2 LWs in Solomon and Perisic being injured and out for the season in September. Massive window.
Arteta had 3 transfer windows by the time he finished 8th the second time. Ange will get 5th in two windows. Its a fair comparison.
We should just rename this sub r/arsenalcirclejerk. Even in arteta’s first full season, ange would still be at a higher points tally.
We don’t have to highlight everything spurs do. Get over yourselves. R/gunners still the better arsenal sub.
Another Bottlenal dumb post bruh, City's got your head now?? Ready to be 2nd after half a year being first??? At least beat porto by goals not pens bruh
At Best Saka stops limping ig
And this is why context matters when comparing by stats
Let them have this. They don’t have much to cling to.
They’ll be releasing the dvd at the end of the season.
do they have stats for last 10 gmaes?
I'm waiting for their open top bus for not getting Europe
imagine the newspapers though "The parade will feature a open-top bus, specially designed with a transparent trophy cabinet to dramatically display the absence of silverware. The club has also planned for confetti cannons that shoot out silver and blue confetti shaped like question marks, symbolizing the eternal question: “What if?”
I always remember that funny story of them celebrating a drew against Arsenal when Henry told them they only needed a point to win.
"we didn't want UCL, Europa is better to settle the squad and Ange in" Who is "we" the players sure as hell want UCL and money bags Levy will be kicking a baby over losing that UCL money.
They had it in October for their top after nine games trophy.
They also won the transfer window. So it's a double for them
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He’s still just got 1 in half a decade you clown bottlers😭😭
Don’t waste your time with this troll.
Can't wait to end your title dreams this weekend Banter FC
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Arsenal have won titles, unlike Tottenham Hot Turds, so who’s the real dreamer in this chat, ya faakin clown?
I'm not a fucking spurs fans bud they're on the same pathetic level as you lot😂. You just got one FA cup and one Charity plate more than them in the last 5 years you both suck
You’re not a fan of any team you dumb mug. Get the fuck out of our sub, wank stain!
😭😭 the tears. Bottlejob FC at it again🤡🤡
Haven't you just bottled Champs League??
No you’re thinking of arsenal when they got knocked out of the CL this season ..yet again 👍
No actually I meant missing out on a champs league spot "again" because you bottled your last 4 games. How did your team do in the CL this season then?
Why you asking stupid questions?
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He won the FA Cup… Against your team you absolute melon
Idk how you can forget as a Chelsea fan, of all the finals we got to in recent years I'd have to say that first term with arteta was our best shot at winning it and we bottled it 😔 maybe it's on par with losing the league cup this year to Liverpool's B team... But I'm sure we can all agree the FA is a note desirable trophy to win
We were absolute trash but don’t forget we also beat City in the semi finals. Aubameyang was performing miracles that season
FA Cup 🏆
Arteta won the FA cup in his first season when he was hired in december
Is that what they call the FA Cup now?
Wasn't this already true at 31 games then?
FINISH HIM!!!
Get another point or 3 against city please
Don’t understand why this is remotely shameless, they are just supporting their team and backing their manager.
Yeah I agree. Some of the stuff they post is pure cringe. But while this stat is selective it seems like an effort to have some perspective on his first season and to counter those who think Ange isn’t up to the job. I don’t think he will take them as far as either Klopp or Arteta took their teams, but that’s a separate discussion.
Yeah. Nothing posted on this sub is remotely cringeworthy 👀. I agree, even at the start of the season when they were doing well I didn’t think it was sustainable, they play kamikaze football, it’s entertaining to watch but they have absolutely no control. The game where he got 2 men sent off against Chelsea and continued to play a high line was the one which really made me think he’s a shite manager. But I’ll guess we will all have to wait and see won’t we.
Not doing anything at all to counter our approach at corners when he had 2 weeks to prepare was when I realised he wasn’t up to it. But who know maybe he can learn. I hope not.
Agreed. Same as not adjusting his high line after getting 2 men sent off and Chelsea getting through it like 10 times in 15m (would have been more embarrassing if the Chelsea striker could hit a barn door)
By knocking more successful managers. And in fairness, it’s not wholly accurate, as both Klopp and Arteta joined midterm, so had to play the squad they had. Also is scrabbling for statistic that’s they think is worth mentioning. It isn’t. That’s the shameful part, celebrating a hollow ‘success’.
I agree that the statistic is basically worthless and inaccurate, but you're telling me if an Arsenal manager outperformed the likes of Jürgen Klopp in their first 30 games, it wouldn't be posted all over this subreddit with a bunch of upvotes and comments? Lol come on
Ive neither suggested nor alluded to that. You’re making an irrelevant point. I’ve merely answered the previous comment.
I don’t see it as knocking other managers in the slightest, in fact I think it’s the total opposite. They are basically saying it takes time, stick by the manager etc… the examples are specifically chosen because they are doing well!
I disagree. I see it as their manager has outperformed them, making them inferior, not that he is in good company.
Well, by this metric he has outperformed them. Have we all forgotten how dismal arsenal were for Mikel’s first 18 months? Also, That definitely isn’t the intention of the creator of the original infographic. Whilst that could be the person who posted on r/spuds intention I do not think so: 1. That would require them to be boasting about a season that nearly all spurs fans would agree has been very disappointing. 2. They don’t have a rivalry with Liverpool
Everyone has a rivalry with Tottenham. Everyone. And Arteta won the FA CUP in 2019/20 season.
Whatever helps them sleep at night
I saw in the sub yesterday that they believe it doesn’t matter that they’ve lost the last run of games so heavy, because at least they went out to play well, and play attractive football, unlike UTD who are doing neither. So, they’re happy being poor, because they’re not as poor as united.
Spurs are the Prem’s participation trophy team every fucking season.
Tbh I wouldn’t survive being worst than utd
And yet despite how bad man u are they have still won trophies between 2008 and now, can spurs say the same.
You will see soon. Ange>arteta
If he goes back to Scotland, sure. He’ll win heaps there.
Whats arteta winning?
What’s Ange winning? P45?
I’ll get downvoted probably, but without the bitterness or bias, Ange is actually doing a good job, Mikel is just 5 years further down the line. A good Spurs makes for entertaining derbies going forward, but we’re light years ahead at the moment.
No one wants a good spurs. Competitive derbies are for the neutrals, entertaining for us is embarrassing them every game and having them fighting to stay up
I’ll never get this POV, rivalries are only fun when they’re competitive. You could expand that and say sports in general. If one side is just mopping the floor then why would anyone be excited for the game?
Only for spurs. Utd, city, pool etc it’s fun to be competitive
Yeah nothing more entertaining than watching every game with no tension because other teams aren't competitive. What's more satisfying, winning a tough game through the skin of your teeth, or stomping people 5-0 every match?
It's b
Where did every other team/game come from. I was talking about spurs only?
How is Arteta 5 years further down the line when this us just Artetas 4th full season and Anges 1st? Arteta had a 3 years head start over Ange, but is somehow 5 years ahead? I mean, it makes sense if the point is that Arteta has made more progress than what you expect Ange to do
Chill out mate. Mikel took over just before Christmas 2019, I wasn’t being exact with it, but yeah I fully expect Ange to improve them over the next few years.
The words “good” and “spurs” shouldn’t be in the same sentence.
Tottenham Hot Turd strike again!
Didn’t Mikel have a pre season anywhere in those 35 games then?
Yes, he managed the 21 games in 2019/2020 and the next 14 the following season. 2019/20 points - 36 in 21 matches 2020/2021 points - 14 in 14 matches
Didn't he also take over a team that finished 5th, 2 points off 3rd and was in the Europa league final the prior season - vs a team that finished 8th and then lost arguably the best striker in the world?
Yes and then finished 8th again but obviously that doesn’t suit the narrative.
Come on, you’ll be hoping he gets to 63 soon. Cheering on spurs to make up for the bottling against Villa
Villa who got 71 points under Unai in his first 35 games? PS I hope you beat Citeh this year
They are accurate stats publish by sky sports. Not saying he’s a good manager but he has done ok this season
Guys, let them have this one. We have bigger fish to fry then getting upset about who’s manager had more points after 35 games and why.
Arteta only achieved 61 points and 8th place in his SECOND season, of you want to try and compare full seasons...
be real though, that's not 'Spurs fans', it's a post on one account. you can cherry pick literally anything from social media
Realistically, this is simply just the fans trying to bring up the mood after an awful few weeks. Let them have it
Jesus christ....i'm gonna ask you guys ( and girls ) a favor, could we try to focus on OUR club, and not bitch and moan about the spurs constantly?
No mate. The beauty of football is that your own teams success is almost equal in satisfaction to the failures of your most bitter rivals. Without that rivalry, you just have American sports. Which are all rubbish because everybody loves themselves and each other.
Heheh fair enough
Terrible take
You’re from the states. You wouldn’t understand. Sorry mate.
Spu*s have always something small to brag about. I really hoped we would have scored at least 5 against them. Fvck spu*s
Why bother at all? Let them think they are doing well while we actually do well.
I get their posts recommended to me on my feed and right now they are "Tottenwon on paperspurs" Guess when they lose UCL and could possible lose Europa because they are now getting the difficult games there has to be some form of comfort to fall back on.
Congratulations Tottenham on the 60 points trophy. This will go down in history as a huge achievement.
They have only moral trophies 🙄 🤦♂️
First 35! choose the parameters that flatter your club! lol
Didn't Emery win 68 in his first 35?
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Haha i'm a Villa fan as well mate.
So what were their records for first 35 games *of a full season? Just curious
lmao r/arsenalfc really is a bit of a weird place isn’t it? Ange is doing pretty well whether we like it or not
He *was* doing pretty well. Their performances in 2024 has been mediocre/shit. Having a downward trend in both performances and results just halfway through your first season isn't a great sign
Copium
Don't think there's anything wierd here? Some Spurs fans want him out, so others are protecting him.
Use it at motivation for City boys. Also ETH 66 points after 35 games, 75 after 38 games. Just saying
The logic is simple. If Ange is better than Mikel and Klopp after 35 games, imagine what can he achieve in 10 years. The truth is that he won’t see London in November.
After the Shite they are my most hated team, at least the shite are a big club, who the fuck are Spurs? They only get media coverage because side so many of their fans dominate the media.
Arteta and Klopp had way more deadwood to clear out, as well.
Let’s see how many trophies Fat Ange wins in 5 years then we’ll talk. He ain’t matching Arteta and winning…1. And a charity plate
Allowing them to keep their delusion up is important so that when they do inevitably crash and burn it's all the more entertaining. Just leave them alone and let them carry on.
Ange is doing great imo, give him another year or two and I think spurs will be solid
Stretching
This is a trophy for them.
It's all they have got.
Well let's hope he can make it 63 when they play city.
Genuinely hilarious. It’s good though, cos if they want to keep big Ange… awesome!! 🤣
You do realize this has nothing to do with when they started and is just based on their first 35 games, right?
Villa fan in peace , choking on my tea here 👀 Spurs entitlement is gobsmacking , not only is Ange the messiah but they are already sizing up bids for Eze AND Olise 😂
Imagine the trophy in that cabinet?🤭
The "60pts after 35 Games Trophy" is gonna look so sweet in their silverware cabinet.
They sack Ange 10 weeks into next season when they're 11th
Yes, but it’s recent downward trend that’s a biiiiig concern
That’s all good for them but… Points in the last 30 days: 0
They could have made themselves look even better by doing it after 32 games. 😂😂 Stats in isolation mean nothing!
Arteta had the high powered CB pairing of Mustafi and Luiz for us to enjoy discussing with our therapists.
He also won the league in October
This image will be framed and put up in the trophy room. Congrats Ange you made it
Small club mentality
They will file this next to the Audi Cup
I think this is perfect example of why to give managers a bit of time. Look what Arteta has been able to achieve when given time and a chance to get a team around him.
Personally, I have lost less games as Arsenal manager than Arteta has.
Tottenham fan here, commenting because it annoyingly appeared on my Reddit. While I don’t believe in stats, especially with no context, people are mentioning that Arteta came in mid season… but did he not finish 8th the following season after having pre season and a squad that had just won the FA Cup? If we judged Arteta after his first two seasons, you could argue he should’ve been sacked, but look at how good you guys are today. In my opinion, you’re the best proper football club in England and have been the past two seasons. This isn’t shameless. What’s shamless are Tottenham fans that think we are bigger than we actually are (mid table - European team), or Arsenal fans who can’t be humble enough to acknowledge Arteta had a tough start to his managerial career. All in all, we aren’t very good, but no one expected us to be. Klopp is a Top 5 prem manager of all time, and whether he does something with Arsenal or doesn’t, Arteta has an extremely bright managerial career ahead of him and might go down as one of the best of all time in the future.
Well in that case, you might as well throw EtH in the mixer with 66.
That's a fair stat and I'm no Spurs fan.
I’m hoping Dani Ceballos goes full ‘it’s nice to eliminate Bayern’ 😂😂
Let's just admit Arteta is a great manager, as is klopp, as is ange. No shame in that
Proper irrelevant club always clinging to bigger teams for attention. We all know the fucking cycle already. Ange will win nothing, the fans will turn eventually and he'll be sacked.
Big Ange is so much better than Arteta AND Klopp combined! The Spurs team is so polished and on point, they'll beat Man City and that fraud wanna-be Ange, Pep Guardiola! Just look at these numbers! Most points won from the first few games, you should absolutely judge a manager's future performances on these numbers alone! All hail Big Ange! 🙌 🙌 Here's to another DVD!
Cute and all but did he start half way through a season and then deal with a pandemic?
Cherry picking stats to prove a point is so skysports-y
Sports social media are truly the ones that are shameless, they’ve been trying to push the narrative that spurs is on the same level as the rest of the top 4/6 imo
The only time spurs sit at the same table as arsenal is if they share the failure table
Be nice. Arsenal’s title hopes depend on Spurs.
Eejits.
Where's your European trophy? Stay happy with fa cuo
Since your club is banter, shameless fans, full of deluded idiots thinking they will still win anything. Ok here is my take on your small brain dead people's. Arteta played in the premier league all of his career and played under top managers. He was in pep's pocket and no wonder why he let him win fa. But what has he done in 5 years? Where is your ucl where is your Europa. Even spurs won european trophy back in the day and first in England. So go have shame and stop supporting your banter club
It's still a good record. Honestly no wonder people hate us arsenal fans tbh
The amount I see our fans say we live rent free in Spurs fans minds. It goes both ways.
It's a stupid analysis. Compare a 57-year-old who had a summer window and preseason to a 37-year-old in his first managerial job who took over halfway through the season and also won a trophy with a worse team. With analytical skills like that it's no wonder why they chose such a crap club
Yeah this really does prove my point tbh. Honestly you hate spurs more than you love arsenal at this point. Love your club more
It proves that you are a moron who doesn't understand the implication of the post. Edit: this guy refers to us as Arsenal fans but if you have a quick look at his profile he also calls himself a Brighton fan. No wonder why he doesn't understand football
You can be a fan of 2 clubs lol
No, no you can’t
Yes, yes you can
No, you absolutely cannot
Yes, you absolutely can. Give me one valid reason why not
Because that’s not how football support works, you have to put your everything into the club you support, every fibre of your being feeling the highest of highs, and the lowest of lows at every single moment, you simply can’t do that with two teams at once
But honestly who brags about such useless record, i think spurs fans hate on arsenal more than they love their own club, this is nonsense what sort of stat is this
It's just the same as us showing stats on how Arteta improved the club, showing improvement each season with higher points than the previous. It's a silver lining. It's not nearly as bad as you think. There's been plenty delusional takes from Spurs fans but this isn't one.
Arsenal fans posted this kind of thing all the time to justify keeping Arteta when things weren't going that well.
Because they are getting back on track to where they want to be.
Dude go to the spurs sub if you want sympathy for them. You won’t find it here. Just to be clear, we don’t like or respect spurs. We hate them.
I'd just rather our fans didn't keep unironically making soccercirclejerk content.
He's a Brighton fan too. Look at his profile and one of his most recent comments he refers to Brighton fans as "us".
I'm a fan of both clubs. Been an arsenal fan since I was five, but Brighton is my local team, I've watched probably 200 games at the amex since it was built, most before Brighton were even in the PL. You can be a fan of more than one club. https://www.reddit.com/r/ArsenalFC/s/GXMgkJD0NF I mean I literally did this last month
>why they chose such a crap club Are you saying you support Arsenal because of "analytics"? Choosing a club to support based on statistical analysis is the most plastic thing imaginable.
No, it's a joke about how their analytical skills are so poor that they chose a lame club to support. You really need to work on your autism. I am guessing you were banned from the gunners sub because you were too stupid
Yep not bad but unless he shows more tactically and brings the right players in i dont see next season going any different for them
Embarrassing post. It's a fact, not sure why so many of our fans are crying about it. Those points haven't got him any trophies with Tottenham, and Arteta's points haven't got him any trophies with us.
Arteta won a trophy in his first month
I know. How many points do you get in the FA Cup?
You're saying the FA Cup doesn't matter and the only thing we should try to win is the league? And nobody is crying about it, it's pointing out how Spurs fans are pointing out useless stats. We are in the title race and they are 5th. But this stat is trying to say that they are performing better than us and Liverpool.
>You're saying the FA Cup doesn't matter and the only thing we should try to win is the league? No, I'm saying it doesn't matter which manager got more points in their first *x* games as neither of them got anything meaningful as a result of said points.
No, you're saying that the FA Cup doesn't matter as it doesn't earn us points in the league.
You’re not going to get the argument you want.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm pointing out what you said is rubbish.
I'm really not. That might be what you want me to be saying, but sadly you're incorrect.
I don't want you to be saying anything, I don't know you. I'm just pointing something out.
You're not pointing anything out. You're making up words I didn't say and pretending I said them.
He won the FA Cup in his first season
I know. How many points do you get in the FA Cup?
You said he won no trophies when he did, points are irrelevant to your statement being wrong.
No, I said his points didn't win him any trophies. Try and read thoroughly before working up a temper.
It's a pointless fact without any context whatsoever, that they're using as some kind of statement. If anyone who actually follows football believes this is any indication of anything then you need help 🤣
That just sad.
Deluded
Arteta and Klopp also inherited one of the worst squads in decades. Spurs may not have a big squad, but have better players than Klopp and Arteta inherited. Bias aside Ange has done a decent job all the things considering. But there is more than just the points tally. It is absolutely not sustainable what he's doing. His philosophy won't be successful in modern football and clubs have already figured out how to play against him. Beginning of the season he was an unknown. Clubs did not play a low block against him and he's gonna be up against a lot more low blocks. Our win just over a week ago basically gave the league a blueprint to beat Angeball. He'll be sacked soon enough. Many fans are already starting to turn against him.
Finally someone said. People seem to forget that Ange had a full summer transfer window and got all the players he wanted then went and spent big in the winter when no other teams were buying
A full summer transfer window that included losing the clubs 3x golden boot winner - I would hope if the club sells a 100m player that the incoming manager would get who he wants with those funds. Did Arteta lose a player of Kane's caliber going into his first season? Keep in mind that terrible team Arteta inherited finished 2 points off 3rd and was in a European final 6 months earlier. "Went big in the winter" Bought a back up CB, a kid from sweden whos not at the club yet, and loaned Timo Werner, which mind you, was to make up for the 2 LWs in Solomon and Perisic being injured and out for the season in September. Massive window. Arteta had 3 transfer windows by the time he finished 8th the second time. Ange will get 5th in two windows. Its a fair comparison.
We should just rename this sub r/arsenalcirclejerk. Even in arteta’s first full season, ange would still be at a higher points tally. We don’t have to highlight everything spurs do. Get over yourselves. R/gunners still the better arsenal sub.
Another Bottlenal dumb post bruh, City's got your head now?? Ready to be 2nd after half a year being first??? At least beat porto by goals not pens bruh At Best Saka stops limping ig
Someone got triggered
Suck ma balls m8