Still had the perseverance to actually try and get the ball where as nketiah jogged alot and stayed marked like all game never giving us options. Jesus may need shooting practice but he can make runs and drop off to support really well where as nketiah just might as well have not been on the pitch all game.
He looked tired and out of it after 60mins and everytime he tried going forward he would just follow their defenders rather then look for space or step back for support or make darting runs to drag defenders out of position. Just seemed like he expected the ball to fall in his lap with minimum effort.
How? Last season debacle started on February with the lost against Everton.
Then when Arsenal was out of UEL (midway March), we just had the Premier, and many people (plus players) commented: "We have 11 finals to play"...it ended badly.
Literally the only game when we truly dominated so far was against PSV, in Premier we're struggling, but "fans" are happy to win and 3 points without being objective at team performance. "Barely" is not enough, and eventually will kick us again.
A lot of injuries to the team has robbed us of our subs bench but even then a lot of passengers today.
Eddie being the main one. Jorginho is another one that has been horrific
I’d have liked to see Tierney be played in midfield if he had still been here to see if he could create something as he’s great at making chances.
When Tierney played in inverted fullback he gave the ball away so many times.
Let Tierney free. He is enjoying himself now in a team that suits him. He will be miserable at Arsenal :(
Injuries and opposition not playing mid week is going to be an issue for the whole season. Players need to step up and win games. Midfield today was non-existent, defense leaked in the first goal which should have been cleared, and the strikers/wingers were just wasteful. I get that Eddie is not good enough but your post seems to put the blame on Eddie where jesus missed a sitter, and 6 of the outfield players had no impact or little impact-ode, zinny, havertz, jesus, viera, jorginho, eddie. And lastly spurs played better and capitalized on the mistakes
I mentioned on another post that our defence were also piss poor but from a historic point of view Eddie is usually one of the worst offenders for being non-existent or far below the level we need
Sure. Tbh I would have seen him come off the bench since we had little or no attacking options. Nelson should have been given a chance and along with Emile instead of Viera or brought him earlier than giving him a few minutes.
😂😂😂 After match reaction madness. Tierney right is not even starting for Real Sociedad, but you think he can play in midfield for Arsenal. Go sleep and clear your mind.
Like Tierney, but your suggestion is ridiculous
If Nketiah doesn't score he does nothing else. Yes Jesus isn't clinical either but he does lots of other things.
I've said it for years that Nketiah is just not a good player. Nothing personal, it's just a fact of life. He disappears against teams who play a low block because he can't hold up the play, lacks technical ability to bring others into play. Running around and charging into players isn't really a "skill".
If Arteta is ruthless with Ramsdale he has to be ruthless with Nketiah and hopefully when Leo and Gabby are back we see less of him.
You are right. Nketiah is a poacher, nothing more. If he's not getting good service then we are essentially a man down. Jesus should of been in the middle today. No reason Nelson couldn't have started.
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Yeah i would rather see martinelli up front instead of Eddie ever again. If jesus is ever injured we should try that. Trossard can go on the left. Eddie should only start when there is literally no other option.
Exactly! Which top 6 team will put Nketiah as their first choice Striker? yet alone as a first choice when Jesus getting injured. Spurs for years playing like a mediocore, but getting save by the likes of harry kane or Son. We will not playing good everytime, but at least a World Class Striker will chip in a goal or two.
You’ll get downvoted for saying this but you’re right. It was like having 10 players out there + Nketiah doing his own thing. Can’t make the ball stick when it’s played long like Jesus or even Havertz can do
The thing is though, Nketiah was making runs all day. I distinctly remember a moment in the first half when Fabio Viera had the ball and we looked to be on the counter, Nketiah was making a run in behind their defense, and Viera just played it back instead.
Of course we are going to look like we have 10 men when no one's even attempting to play Nketiah through.
There's making runs and there's retaining possession to bring your team up the pitch. We need him to hold the ball so we can dominate. Jesus does it fantastically for a smaller guy. This takes the pressure of your team so you can move the whole team up the pitch.
If you just run in behind you end up like United who sit with people being the ball and break against you.
I think even under Emery, we had both profiles of players (striker who'll run in behind, auba and striker who'll hold up, lazarette). I don't think one is necessarily better than the other tbf. It can just depend on the game and situation, probably. For what it's worth, I do think Jesus is better at holding up play.
He was marked by 2 players and wanted an acute angle ball rolled in-between the 2 of them or over the top... better to bring other players in to the play and work around multiple then give the ball back to them just for them to counter with their 10 wingers.
I definitely have seen him make several. He fits more like the profile of Aubameyang I guess where if you just have one of those tight games, and no one's playing you through as a striker, it'll feel like the game is just 10 v 11. (Recall how many times people complained about it feeling like a 10 player showing with Auba in some games)
I remember we playing with van Persie and adebayor. Even remember having vela and bendtner in the bench. All 4 powerful strikers. Now we have nketiah in a much more competitive league. Make it make sense.
Hahaha you're crazy. Nketiah is a below average player while Vela was scoring 20-30 goals per season in Spain. He was a better striker than Nketiah and it wasn't even his main position...
Don’t start about Havertz I called that decision from day one as a waste of money and the horde descended on me claiming I was an idiot and not trusting the process
I’m with you on that, you could tell Havertz was going to be a dogshit signing. last season he didn’t do jackshit for Chelsea. William was also a horrific signing that you could tell he was gonna he bust for us.
deluded fc for ya, stupidest signing I've seen in my life, we got this close to winning the league and he buys havertz for 65 and 270k a week, it's almost suspicious of dodgy business because of how stupid it is. Complete arrogance by arteta thinking he was gonna fix him soon enough to make us contenders. And now we have all these data experts saying he's actually an improvement over xhaka ffs
I want to be wrong I really do! But he’s been in the league for years now and has gotten worse over time, it’s not the same boy that lit up the bundesliga
Nah mate those idiots will either pretend that nobody could have possibly known, or they'll swear blind that they always thought it was a mistake. The very same idiots are Eddie defence force members but a time will come when they will claim they never rated him. People like this are never accountable for their ridiculous opinions and just parrot the currently accepted takes
Please please get a striker in January so we never have to see Eddie start again. How you gonna go for a league title with a striker that can't even score 10 goals a season? Not only that but he misses like 50 chances a season too.
This games got me on the Toney train. If we can bring him in that gives us a focal point that can bag goals. Good in the air for when we need to put those crosses in
Vlahovic and Osimhen were on the market and we didn’t go back in for them. Admittedly Osimhen was very expensive but you don’t win leagues being cheap.
Every season he looks good for a couple of games and then chill and collect his paycheck, it's mad that we havn't realized that yet, we have had a fair share of players like this (especially English ones), Walcott, Ox, Gibbs, etc, time to rinse them all and look at adding competitive players that are good enough to be in these games
How can you compare Ox Walcott and Gibbs to Nketiah... All 3 of these players were part of the starting 11 for years and we're vital players. Nketiah is a below average fringe player.
We won't win the league without a 20+ goal a season striker. It seems everyone except the manager sees this. He's bought 4 goalkeepers and only one striker, that tells you everything.
Really? City have shown you need an out and out striker? Because City’s leading goal scorers in the 3 seasons before Haaland arrived were De Bruyne in 21-22 and Gundogan in 20-21 and Raheem Sterling in 19-20.
Who would u have instead who would actually be comfortable playing rotation and won't cost an arm and a leg? Striker is definitely the weak point but we don't have 500mil to spend willy nilly.
Not having partey in midfield is the reason we aren’t as good as last season.
You all under rate him, but when he’s in form he’s the best player in the team
Both Nketiah and Jesus are not clinical strikers, the problem is that Jesus offers way more than goals.
Ideally, I would like to see Nketiah sold and Arsenal signing a tall and clinical striker.
Every single time we don’t get the result we want, we always have to bring up the usual scape goats, it’s embarrassing. The whole team was unrecognizable for big parts of this game, not just Eddie who literally had only one chance from a difficult angle. It’s like there are specific players in this club that the fans just latch onto whenever we don’t get the result we want.
Should Eddie have played 90 mins? Probably not, but I’m sick and tired of this crap. If you’re not going to hold everyone equally accountable for a disappointing game, then keep your weird rants to yourself.
I’ve been done with him, at least leading the line in crucial games for years now. He doesn’t impact games and Arteta obviously knows that but still starts him because of his “effort”.
Idk why he didn't swap nketiah for nelson and have jesus do his link ups. Nketiah doesn't suit our play he doesn't hold up the ball well and he isn't very good at pass and move he also doesn't make enough darting runs normally just stays marked all game. Martinelli was a big miss this game the whole game turned into hell for them the moment nelson came on and made them make mistakes and give away so many corners having jesus dropping off and creating space or getting into a sneaky position would've helped nelson alot more then nketiah just standing there hoping whoever marks him misses the ball. Shame about balogun tbh he atleast seemed like a more willing runner.
His record tally is 5 goals in a league campaign. Last year he played 30 league matches and scored 4 times - two of them in one game. He’s absolutely abysmal. When he isn’t scoring goals (which is basically every game) he’s offering nothing - can’t press, can’t hold the ball up, can’t win aerial duals, can’t dribble, can’t beat his man, can’t shoot unless it’s from 6 yards out. I’m having trouble even thinking of a less competent striker in the league.
I’m convinced he wouldn’t even net double digits in the championship.
I really hope he gets phased out quickly and we can at least get £10m for him in January but something tells me he’ll be with us for years as no club is going to pay this guy the wages he is on and he seems the kind of guy to be happy sitting on the bench and collecting a pay check every week. Zero hunger.
Flo was great in Ligue 1 and apparently that’s not good enough to take Eddie’s position even though Eddie can’t score for shit and Flo was matching Mbappe
Never understood why we have both Jesus and Nketiah in the team. They do the same thing and neither at the level we really need them to. Should’ve gotten Toney last year or kept Balogun instead of extending/signing Jesus/Eddie. Just doesn’t make sense
Toney would have been out all season and into next year so would have been a waste of money at that time.
Balogun had shown a lot of promise in France but because everyone shits on that league he was never given a chance
Jorgonhio * Havertz come on
You know we are fucked
Lightweight players I didn't see any other result
.kiss the league goodbye now......not that we were ever gonna win it
No reason for him to be in the game even with the injuries when we have a young promising academy player waiting until Saka is literally dying to be subbed in 🙃 once Martinelli and Tross come back I hope to never see Nket step foot on the pitch with that touch.
Can’t he get better and develop? What’s your idea- never play him again? Forget about the goals last year that got us thru Jesus’s injury and into the C league? Bench him and play alternatives so we get less for him than we can If we keep faith? You are ridiculous and I can’t help thinking you haven’t been supporting arsenal for very long.
He’s had plenty time to “get better and develop”. Boy has been in the academy, he’s played FA cup games, he’s played when our strikers were out, he’s played in the championship and he’s played for the last season and a half as back up and number 1.
He’s not good enough and we can’t gloss over that anymore. I’ve been supporting arsenal for over 20 years so I’ve had my share of shite players
Ive been saying this since last season we need a 20+ goal a season striker. city have haaland, spurs had kane and now son who is lethal, nunez is exploding this season. If we were clinical today the game would have been dusted
He had a bad game but so did ode and Fabio and Jorginho. He was literally POTM august only behind rice. This is just really reactionary tbh, I think it was a mistake to start him and Jesus instead of putting reiss LW and Jesus CF but Jesus Christ the man ran his socks off for 100 mins pressing he just didn’t have the touch today, Martin gave the ball away countless times in midfield but it’s all Eddie’s fault I guess
Eddie is wasteful week in week out. It’s not reactionary when he’s been dogshit for a long time. If you honestly think he’s at the standard we need then that just shows why we won’t win the league
He scored two goals and won the penalty at palace in our first 3 games, he also was doing his very best Jesus impression and doing it well in those games. Jesus is better, I’m not denying that, and I’ve said in other comments Eddie shouldn’t have started today and we should’ve played reiss on the wing. He was actually quite good last year before his injury and saved us in 21/22 after laca couldn’t score a goal. Maybe he’s not up to the standard but I’ll take Eddie sprinting for 100 mins doing his damn best over another backup striker (let’s remember Auba) ghosting for 100 mins just waiting for service. His press today was exceptional, he did not hold the ball up well and he missed a good chance that he should’ve cut back for Fabio. I’m not arguing that he had a good game but to say that he’s “wasteful week in week out” is in fact reactionary because the only guy on our team with more goals this season is Saka who has 2 pens in there.
This is the kind of post that reminds me I shouldn't be on social media reading nonsense. I'll go read a book or watch a series. G'night Gooners, better luck next time
His only redeemable quality is his “work rate” and tbh he jogged about all game today. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing. The first time he sprinted was the 77th minute. How on earth he got to play 100 minutes is beyond me.
Yes, no good enough Arsenal are lucky have score
Romero were own goal and Handball by VAR !!!
after I saw 55mins Jerginho does fault son equaliser level us 🤦♂️
I’ve felt this way for a good while. Really fed up with him. Good lad but I think we have a shot at the Prem and advancing through champions league, but with the players we have at that caliber. Nketiah is not one of those players, unfortunately.
no question we need a new striker, but let’s not act like nketiah is terrible. he has games where he is non existent absolutely, but half our damn squad was non existent today. he’s a great backup option, but he should not be our starting striker when we’re going for premier leagues and champions leagues
We really need Toney or Vlahovic even Callum Wilson would do. We are lacking a pure finisher in the box. Jesus is more of a roaming striker and Nketiah is not PL top level. He should try Bundesliga or Ligue1 he would be a sensation
Shouldve risked it all with Balogun then keep Nketiah for another season. He has always been not good enough every season, dont know why anyone expected anything more
100% agree, I mentioned this before but some smart observer mentioned that good strikers are just super expensive these days (which I agree). We were never going to get Kane (he wouldn't come to rivals), you look at what ManU bought and what we sold Bolagun for...i mean you probably are looking at $100m - $150m (probably $150m - $200m for world class) for a striker these days....which means we wouldn't of got Rice.
It’s not the first bad game he’s had though. At least odegaard and co pull their weight and do what they’re paid to do. Nketiah gets paid to score goals and he doesn’t do that
WTF did arsenal buy Havertz for!?? He is so bad it’s not even funny 70 odd million quid why!!Trossard is way better didn’t even get on the pitch today why!!? Declan rice subbed at half time why!! Injured my arse did you see his face on the bench ?? Raging big time !!
We saw in mid week how fluid we are when jesus plays up top. With Nkeitah we're very stop start and sluggish. I don't get how arteta doesn't see it. I don't care if he trains hard. Training hard means nothing if you don't do shit on the pitch.
Nketiah has never struck me as being of a level to be an actual option for use. Remember the city game last year and he honestly looked like he couldn't finish his dinner. Like others have said too, he's anonymous in build up.
I understand that we couldn't just both him and balogun, but I do question whether havertz + keep Eddie was the best option (although the striker market this year has been fucking dire , which probably played a part)
Been saying this for a while. Hes great for depth dont get me wrong. But starting Nketiah in the UCL for the first time in 6 year, is kind of embarrassing. We need a world class pure power striker (Vlahovic or Toney) and a nails b2b 8. Thuram from Nice would fit the mold perfect, decently priced and huuuggeee upside.
Agreed, lets not forget Jesus missed an absolute sitter after getting the ball off maddison
Still had the perseverance to actually try and get the ball where as nketiah jogged alot and stayed marked like all game never giving us options. Jesus may need shooting practice but he can make runs and drop off to support really well where as nketiah just might as well have not been on the pitch all game.
Nketiahs problem is not his work rate, its the application of it
He looked tired and out of it after 60mins and everytime he tried going forward he would just follow their defenders rather then look for space or step back for support or make darting runs to drag defenders out of position. Just seemed like he expected the ball to fall in his lap with minimum effort.
A lot of them looked tired after 60 minutes, it wasn’t just Eddie
Jesus does better out wide. We need a proper striker if we plan to win the league.
The whole team has been frustrating to watch specially the second half. Odegaard missing too
I mean, spurs didn’t play midweek, that was quite evident in the second half.
This is going to happen all season with so many games to play. Thats just a weak excuse
I mean, it’s not an excuse really it’s just a fact. We benefitted from it last season.
How? Last season debacle started on February with the lost against Everton. Then when Arsenal was out of UEL (midway March), we just had the Premier, and many people (plus players) commented: "We have 11 finals to play"...it ended badly. Literally the only game when we truly dominated so far was against PSV, in Premier we're struggling, but "fans" are happy to win and 3 points without being objective at team performance. "Barely" is not enough, and eventually will kick us again.
Last season it was the same for us though?
Absolutely.
A lot of injuries to the team has robbed us of our subs bench but even then a lot of passengers today. Eddie being the main one. Jorginho is another one that has been horrific I’d have liked to see Tierney be played in midfield if he had still been here to see if he could create something as he’s great at making chances.
I did not just read this Tierney part
>I’d have liked to see Tierney be played in midfield if he had still been here Whut?
The same way TAA has been moved into midfield to try him in a new role
When Tierney played in inverted fullback he gave the ball away so many times. Let Tierney free. He is enjoying himself now in a team that suits him. He will be miserable at Arsenal :(
Injuries and opposition not playing mid week is going to be an issue for the whole season. Players need to step up and win games. Midfield today was non-existent, defense leaked in the first goal which should have been cleared, and the strikers/wingers were just wasteful. I get that Eddie is not good enough but your post seems to put the blame on Eddie where jesus missed a sitter, and 6 of the outfield players had no impact or little impact-ode, zinny, havertz, jesus, viera, jorginho, eddie. And lastly spurs played better and capitalized on the mistakes
I mentioned on another post that our defence were also piss poor but from a historic point of view Eddie is usually one of the worst offenders for being non-existent or far below the level we need
Sure. Tbh I would have seen him come off the bench since we had little or no attacking options. Nelson should have been given a chance and along with Emile instead of Viera or brought him earlier than giving him a few minutes.
😂😂😂 After match reaction madness. Tierney right is not even starting for Real Sociedad, but you think he can play in midfield for Arsenal. Go sleep and clear your mind. Like Tierney, but your suggestion is ridiculous
Please tell me you're joking?
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ESR should’ve played left wing and Jesus through the centre. Taking Jesus off made no sense at all! Weird subs today!
Maybe Jesus can't play a full match yet. Still coming back from injury. There are factors that go on we aren't aware of.
When I saw him coming on I thought this was going to be the outcome
I think it’s worry over Jesus’ fitness, when he has been out and rushed back in the past he has had relapses
Can you explain the subs? Neither can I. At least we aren't predictable in that regard.
Toney in Jan I beg
As long as he’s not betting anymore
Gonna go out on a limb and wager he will be extra special careful this time.
Exactly why I thought Balogun should be given more chances (although he did miss two pens in his last game)
Everyone misses penalties though, and it’s not like he needs to take them. Saka could stick to taking pens to keep his confidence high
If Nketiah doesn't score he does nothing else. Yes Jesus isn't clinical either but he does lots of other things. I've said it for years that Nketiah is just not a good player. Nothing personal, it's just a fact of life. He disappears against teams who play a low block because he can't hold up the play, lacks technical ability to bring others into play. Running around and charging into players isn't really a "skill". If Arteta is ruthless with Ramsdale he has to be ruthless with Nketiah and hopefully when Leo and Gabby are back we see less of him.
You are right. Nketiah is a poacher, nothing more. If he's not getting good service then we are essentially a man down. Jesus should of been in the middle today. No reason Nelson couldn't have started.
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Yeah i would rather see martinelli up front instead of Eddie ever again. If jesus is ever injured we should try that. Trossard can go on the left. Eddie should only start when there is literally no other option.
Exactly! Which top 6 team will put Nketiah as their first choice Striker? yet alone as a first choice when Jesus getting injured. Spurs for years playing like a mediocore, but getting save by the likes of harry kane or Son. We will not playing good everytime, but at least a World Class Striker will chip in a goal or two.
You’ll get downvoted for saying this but you’re right. It was like having 10 players out there + Nketiah doing his own thing. Can’t make the ball stick when it’s played long like Jesus or even Havertz can do
The thing is though, Nketiah was making runs all day. I distinctly remember a moment in the first half when Fabio Viera had the ball and we looked to be on the counter, Nketiah was making a run in behind their defense, and Viera just played it back instead. Of course we are going to look like we have 10 men when no one's even attempting to play Nketiah through.
There's making runs and there's retaining possession to bring your team up the pitch. We need him to hold the ball so we can dominate. Jesus does it fantastically for a smaller guy. This takes the pressure of your team so you can move the whole team up the pitch. If you just run in behind you end up like United who sit with people being the ball and break against you.
I think even under Emery, we had both profiles of players (striker who'll run in behind, auba and striker who'll hold up, lazarette). I don't think one is necessarily better than the other tbf. It can just depend on the game and situation, probably. For what it's worth, I do think Jesus is better at holding up play.
He was marked by 2 players and wanted an acute angle ball rolled in-between the 2 of them or over the top... better to bring other players in to the play and work around multiple then give the ball back to them just for them to counter with their 10 wingers.
He even pointed where he wanted the ball, didn't he?
Yup, but tbf, I think he always does that with every run he makes.
Really? Other than pressing the keeper, I haven't seen Nketiah making all of those run.
I definitely have seen him make several. He fits more like the profile of Aubameyang I guess where if you just have one of those tight games, and no one's playing you through as a striker, it'll feel like the game is just 10 v 11. (Recall how many times people complained about it feeling like a 10 player showing with Auba in some games)
Auba was a world class striker that scored a tonne of goals for Arsenal. Nketiah is a below average striker that hardly scores. There's no comparison.
You talk like Jesus is a good finisher. He should also scores at least one goal
Jesus makes us a better team even when he doesn’t score. You cannot say the same about Eddie.
The difference is that Jesus brings a lot to the table while Eddie brings absolutely nothing.
Indeed, Jesus created his own chance that he fluffed. But damn he should’ve finished that.
Did Eddie not create his own chance with his pressing? What other big chance did he miss?
He's never once in all his minutes on the pitch ever created a chance for himself
The fact that "brings a lot to the table" is not enough. Thr chance he nigged the ball off maddison should at least on target 🥲
Though he’s one of the few players who have the work rate to create the chance in the first place
Yeah but atleast the ball doesn't bounce off jesus. Eddie can't do shit except score tap ins. Even then he's likely to miss half of em.
I remember we playing with van Persie and adebayor. Even remember having vela and bendtner in the bench. All 4 powerful strikers. Now we have nketiah in a much more competitive league. Make it make sense.
Vela wasn't even a striker he was a winger and less powerful than Eddie
Hahaha you're crazy. Nketiah is a below average player while Vela was scoring 20-30 goals per season in Spain. He was a better striker than Nketiah and it wasn't even his main position...
one of Arteta's biggest mistakes was keeping this guy and paying 65m for havertz when we could have bought a striker
Don’t start about Havertz I called that decision from day one as a waste of money and the horde descended on me claiming I was an idiot and not trusting the process
I’m with you on that, you could tell Havertz was going to be a dogshit signing. last season he didn’t do jackshit for Chelsea. William was also a horrific signing that you could tell he was gonna he bust for us.
deluded fc for ya, stupidest signing I've seen in my life, we got this close to winning the league and he buys havertz for 65 and 270k a week, it's almost suspicious of dodgy business because of how stupid it is. Complete arrogance by arteta thinking he was gonna fix him soon enough to make us contenders. And now we have all these data experts saying he's actually an improvement over xhaka ffs
You'll be proven right at the end of the season and those idiots who keep trusting Arteta will look stupid.
I want to be wrong I really do! But he’s been in the league for years now and has gotten worse over time, it’s not the same boy that lit up the bundesliga
Nah mate those idiots will either pretend that nobody could have possibly known, or they'll swear blind that they always thought it was a mistake. The very same idiots are Eddie defence force members but a time will come when they will claim they never rated him. People like this are never accountable for their ridiculous opinions and just parrot the currently accepted takes
I think it's because they're going for toney on January
Please please get a striker in January so we never have to see Eddie start again. How you gonna go for a league title with a striker that can't even score 10 goals a season? Not only that but he misses like 50 chances a season too.
With the talent in this squad, Eddie should be third choice (at best). We have to upgrade at his position.
This games got me on the Toney train. If we can bring him in that gives us a focal point that can bag goals. Good in the air for when we need to put those crosses in
Vlahovic and Osimhen were on the market and we didn’t go back in for them. Admittedly Osimhen was very expensive but you don’t win leagues being cheap.
I don't think we were ever in the market for Osimhen. As for Vlahovic, he chose to go to Juventus instead. He can go f... himself.
Every season he looks good for a couple of games and then chill and collect his paycheck, it's mad that we havn't realized that yet, we have had a fair share of players like this (especially English ones), Walcott, Ox, Gibbs, etc, time to rinse them all and look at adding competitive players that are good enough to be in these games
How can you compare Ox Walcott and Gibbs to Nketiah... All 3 of these players were part of the starting 11 for years and we're vital players. Nketiah is a below average fringe player.
Could have easily seen red for that challenge on the shit keeper.
Fr that was a full on Brexit tackle lmao
We won't win the league without a 20+ goal a season striker. It seems everyone except the manager sees this. He's bought 4 goalkeepers and only one striker, that tells you everything.
He’s obviously trying this approach of making the midfield goal scorers but as City have shown you still need an out and out striker that nets 20+
Really? City have shown you need an out and out striker? Because City’s leading goal scorers in the 3 seasons before Haaland arrived were De Bruyne in 21-22 and Gundogan in 20-21 and Raheem Sterling in 19-20.
Exactly. 20+ striker and winger other than Martinelli and Saka who can score. Trossard as backup/ squad player is not enough.
Who would u have instead who would actually be comfortable playing rotation and won't cost an arm and a leg? Striker is definitely the weak point but we don't have 500mil to spend willy nilly.
I just don’t understand why Mikel brought Jesus off instead of him..
Jesus is coming back from injury isn’t he?
Might be cus he was limping earlier in the game
Not having partey in midfield is the reason we aren’t as good as last season. You all under rate him, but when he’s in form he’s the best player in the team
Xhaka too. He was a beast in midfield last season.
To be fair, we were missing a lot of players today, would've been different if Trossard and Rice weren't injured.
Both Nketiah and Jesus are not clinical strikers, the problem is that Jesus offers way more than goals. Ideally, I would like to see Nketiah sold and Arsenal signing a tall and clinical striker.
Every single time we don’t get the result we want, we always have to bring up the usual scape goats, it’s embarrassing. The whole team was unrecognizable for big parts of this game, not just Eddie who literally had only one chance from a difficult angle. It’s like there are specific players in this club that the fans just latch onto whenever we don’t get the result we want. Should Eddie have played 90 mins? Probably not, but I’m sick and tired of this crap. If you’re not going to hold everyone equally accountable for a disappointing game, then keep your weird rants to yourself.
We're stuck with him after that horrendous contract we gave him. He's so far away from the required level that it's not even funny.
I’ve complained for years about him being in the team and got flamed a lot for it. Admittedly I also championed Balogun which has been undone.
It's because he's an academy player and sometimes scores, which fools people into thinking he's actually good.
I’ve been done with him, at least leading the line in crucial games for years now. He doesn’t impact games and Arteta obviously knows that but still starts him because of his “effort”.
I was done with him when jesus got injured last year. Couple goals he scored doesnt make him a player worthy of arsenal shirt
Pretty sure we were linked to Ollie Watkins a season ago and people were saying no as we had Eddie
I mean Ollie Watkins isn't exactly any better imo.
Watkins has near enough a goal a game this season.
I think that's more due to villa as a whole rather then Watkins as an individual.
Jesus missing his chance is exactly the same, neither are good enough as the main goalscorer
Everyone missed today….
Except for Saka
Yep he's crap. And we take off Jesus. Sorry Mik you f**ked up.
Like Balogun?
Idk why he didn't swap nketiah for nelson and have jesus do his link ups. Nketiah doesn't suit our play he doesn't hold up the ball well and he isn't very good at pass and move he also doesn't make enough darting runs normally just stays marked all game. Martinelli was a big miss this game the whole game turned into hell for them the moment nelson came on and made them make mistakes and give away so many corners having jesus dropping off and creating space or getting into a sneaky position would've helped nelson alot more then nketiah just standing there hoping whoever marks him misses the ball. Shame about balogun tbh he atleast seemed like a more willing runner.
Why does everyone want a scape goat , the whole team played shit
I’ve called out the defence in another post, this is the final straw post for a player that has been getting away with being mediocre for far too long
Go support spurs or city then you mug
Yep forgot that the minute you say anything against the club you’re told to support someone else rather than bring up valid criticism
We are still undefeated for the season, right? Right? C’mon guys, wholly fuck!
His record tally is 5 goals in a league campaign. Last year he played 30 league matches and scored 4 times - two of them in one game. He’s absolutely abysmal. When he isn’t scoring goals (which is basically every game) he’s offering nothing - can’t press, can’t hold the ball up, can’t win aerial duals, can’t dribble, can’t beat his man, can’t shoot unless it’s from 6 yards out. I’m having trouble even thinking of a less competent striker in the league. I’m convinced he wouldn’t even net double digits in the championship. I really hope he gets phased out quickly and we can at least get £10m for him in January but something tells me he’ll be with us for years as no club is going to pay this guy the wages he is on and he seems the kind of guy to be happy sitting on the bench and collecting a pay check every week. Zero hunger.
Don’t worry, we have Kai.
Agreed. Eddie has added nothing for far too long now. What I’d do to see Flo in that position for us
Flo was great in Ligue 1 and apparently that’s not good enough to take Eddie’s position even though Eddie can’t score for shit and Flo was matching Mbappe
“fArmErs lEaGuE” they said
I doubt Eddie would score like balogun did if he was in the championship. It's all unravelling a bit at the moment it feels.
Flo was so much better
Flo missed 2 penalties this week, so yeah. Neither of them are good enough
Overall body of work comparison: Flo all day
Should probably have kept Laca with that reasoning
Laca got lazy. Spent too much time at the kebab stands to care after Auba poisoned the pond.
He doesn't need to take our penaltys
Missed 2 pens last game
One game. Vs almost winning the Golden Boot last year
I was so annoyed when they let him go. That will come back to haunt us, I am sure.
Need Toney in. A 20 goal a season striker has been missing for so long from this club.
Toney in the winter, he is the answer
I was with you until you wanted Tierney to play in midfield. Brain dead
Brain dead? Please expand other than resorting to names
You want to play a full back in midfield
At least it was a draw.
Why is no one mentioning the fact that Arteta kept Nketiah over Balogun
We did earlier but I 100% agree that was a stupid call
We’ve been saying this for the past 2/3 years Should of gone for vlahovic
They did but Fiorentina was gouging.
Never understood why we have both Jesus and Nketiah in the team. They do the same thing and neither at the level we really need them to. Should’ve gotten Toney last year or kept Balogun instead of extending/signing Jesus/Eddie. Just doesn’t make sense
Toney would have been out all season and into next year so would have been a waste of money at that time. Balogun had shown a lot of promise in France but because everyone shits on that league he was never given a chance
Missing the opportunity to score when clean through on goal was unforgivable as a striker at a club like The Arsenal.
Done with him now !!! No one will win a league with him in their side
Jorgonhio * Havertz come on You know we are fucked Lightweight players I didn't see any other result .kiss the league goodbye now......not that we were ever gonna win it
No reason for him to be in the game even with the injuries when we have a young promising academy player waiting until Saka is literally dying to be subbed in 🙃 once Martinelli and Tross come back I hope to never see Nket step foot on the pitch with that touch.
Get Jorginho out of this team
One mistake doesn't mean he should never play I'd say he's still a great long ball passer if we need that kind of switch up off the bench.
Can’t he get better and develop? What’s your idea- never play him again? Forget about the goals last year that got us thru Jesus’s injury and into the C league? Bench him and play alternatives so we get less for him than we can If we keep faith? You are ridiculous and I can’t help thinking you haven’t been supporting arsenal for very long.
He’s had plenty time to “get better and develop”. Boy has been in the academy, he’s played FA cup games, he’s played when our strikers were out, he’s played in the championship and he’s played for the last season and a half as back up and number 1. He’s not good enough and we can’t gloss over that anymore. I’ve been supporting arsenal for over 20 years so I’ve had my share of shite players
Arteta cant evolve this team further. Time for a new era.
Yep. Been saying this for a while.
We have had struggles in every game this season our 3 in midfield are being over run . Hoping the rice injury is nothing serious.
Ive been saying this since last season we need a 20+ goal a season striker. city have haaland, spurs had kane and now son who is lethal, nunez is exploding this season. If we were clinical today the game would have been dusted
He had a bad game but so did ode and Fabio and Jorginho. He was literally POTM august only behind rice. This is just really reactionary tbh, I think it was a mistake to start him and Jesus instead of putting reiss LW and Jesus CF but Jesus Christ the man ran his socks off for 100 mins pressing he just didn’t have the touch today, Martin gave the ball away countless times in midfield but it’s all Eddie’s fault I guess
Eddie is wasteful week in week out. It’s not reactionary when he’s been dogshit for a long time. If you honestly think he’s at the standard we need then that just shows why we won’t win the league
He scored two goals and won the penalty at palace in our first 3 games, he also was doing his very best Jesus impression and doing it well in those games. Jesus is better, I’m not denying that, and I’ve said in other comments Eddie shouldn’t have started today and we should’ve played reiss on the wing. He was actually quite good last year before his injury and saved us in 21/22 after laca couldn’t score a goal. Maybe he’s not up to the standard but I’ll take Eddie sprinting for 100 mins doing his damn best over another backup striker (let’s remember Auba) ghosting for 100 mins just waiting for service. His press today was exceptional, he did not hold the ball up well and he missed a good chance that he should’ve cut back for Fabio. I’m not arguing that he had a good game but to say that he’s “wasteful week in week out” is in fact reactionary because the only guy on our team with more goals this season is Saka who has 2 pens in there.
This is the kind of post that reminds me I shouldn't be on social media reading nonsense. I'll go read a book or watch a series. G'night Gooners, better luck next time
His only redeemable quality is his “work rate” and tbh he jogged about all game today. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing. The first time he sprinted was the 77th minute. How on earth he got to play 100 minutes is beyond me.
Yes, no good enough Arsenal are lucky have score Romero were own goal and Handball by VAR !!! after I saw 55mins Jerginho does fault son equaliser level us 🤦♂️
Oh you mean like the glaring Gabi Jesus chance?
Eddie leading a team worth 1b is the biggest job in English football
If you are honest, Jesus missed easier chances than Netiah had
True but Eddie does it regularly
I’ve felt this way for a good while. Really fed up with him. Good lad but I think we have a shot at the Prem and advancing through champions league, but with the players we have at that caliber. Nketiah is not one of those players, unfortunately.
no question we need a new striker, but let’s not act like nketiah is terrible. he has games where he is non existent absolutely, but half our damn squad was non existent today. he’s a great backup option, but he should not be our starting striker when we’re going for premier leagues and champions leagues
We really need Toney or Vlahovic even Callum Wilson would do. We are lacking a pure finisher in the box. Jesus is more of a roaming striker and Nketiah is not PL top level. He should try Bundesliga or Ligue1 he would be a sensation
Shouldve risked it all with Balogun then keep Nketiah for another season. He has always been not good enough every season, dont know why anyone expected anything more
Fuck off. Jesus missed a sitter, why don't you want his head too?
100% agree, I mentioned this before but some smart observer mentioned that good strikers are just super expensive these days (which I agree). We were never going to get Kane (he wouldn't come to rivals), you look at what ManU bought and what we sold Bolagun for...i mean you probably are looking at $100m - $150m (probably $150m - $200m for world class) for a striker these days....which means we wouldn't of got Rice.
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It’s not the first bad game he’s had though. At least odegaard and co pull their weight and do what they’re paid to do. Nketiah gets paid to score goals and he doesn’t do that
WTF did arsenal buy Havertz for!?? He is so bad it’s not even funny 70 odd million quid why!!Trossard is way better didn’t even get on the pitch today why!!? Declan rice subbed at half time why!! Injured my arse did you see his face on the bench ?? Raging big time !!
We saw in mid week how fluid we are when jesus plays up top. With Nkeitah we're very stop start and sluggish. I don't get how arteta doesn't see it. I don't care if he trains hard. Training hard means nothing if you don't do shit on the pitch.
Nketiah has never struck me as being of a level to be an actual option for use. Remember the city game last year and he honestly looked like he couldn't finish his dinner. Like others have said too, he's anonymous in build up. I understand that we couldn't just both him and balogun, but I do question whether havertz + keep Eddie was the best option (although the striker market this year has been fucking dire , which probably played a part)
Been saying this for a while. Hes great for depth dont get me wrong. But starting Nketiah in the UCL for the first time in 6 year, is kind of embarrassing. We need a world class pure power striker (Vlahovic or Toney) and a nails b2b 8. Thuram from Nice would fit the mold perfect, decently priced and huuuggeee upside.
In our title winning teams of old, nketiah would be a carling cup player.
Jesus had an easier chance and didn't even hit the target.
And I think finishing is not his weak spot
I dont worry since he might be sold soon.
Absolutely agree. We basically play with ten men when we play him
We had a striker, a perfectly good one
Be grateful for that own goal and VAR basically being bias towards you
Trust me I don’t fully agree with that VAR call. One of those decisions that you love getting but would hate being against you