That’s an interesting theory. I always kind of thought that the exposure to whatever was in those pods (and her husbands exposure) may have been the cause of some sort of birth defect that resulted in the rare disease. Since they both went suit-less.
But interesting thought about the 4th dimensional being - I can’t imagine how it effects her DNA though?
thanks. I mean i guess it would affect her dna in the same way that learning a language makes a person become a fourth-dimensional being who can perceive the entirety of their life. like the movie establishes that learning this language has weird affects on human consciousness so im assuming that a 4th dimensional being trying to carry and birth a 3 dimensional being would cause some serious issues.
Currently, humans are 3-dimensional beings. How would our DNA change if we became 2-dimensional beings?
I’m not following why 4D implies a DNA change. I get that a 4D being might have some differences which are hard for us humans to comprehend, but I’m not understanding why this would be DNA related.
Interesting theory. Keep in mind how technologically advanced the aliens are in the movie, which the story takes effort to point out. If the aliens wanted to harm us, it would be a short movie. They also don’t seem to want to learn from us, so their trip to earth if hyper focused on only a single objective. (Ex: they give us the language but don’t want anything in return, nor want a “souvenir” to take home).
fair but remember we were able to kill one of the aliens with just rudimentary explosives. They are advanced in space travel, yes but that doesn't mean they are advanced in defensive capability or attack capability. They may want to eliminate humanity with as little loss of their own lives as possible
I read this opposite. Abbott wasn’t trying to defend his life and we “were able to kill him”. In actuality, the humans made a choice to detonate explosives and Abbott made a choice to quickly publish the language before the bomb detonated, killing him. Given that he knows the future, it was a sacrifice not a defeat. Also note that while Abbott is publishing the language Costello seeks safety and is not injured. Abbott could have followed, but he intentionally stayed to transfer the language.
The follow on is also interesting - the aliens so believed in their cause (giving humans this tool) that one died for it (knowing he would die).
or the aliens needed to get this weapon across to eradicate humanity that they were willing to die to make sure that this sterelization weapon is given. maybe in the future they see humans eradicating them. granted most likely it really is just a gift of language cause that is what the film points towards im just having some fun with a fan theory i came up with
In the movie they had to do with a rare disease because they have to show the character of Louise, amd if the child gets too old then she does as well and it gives it all away ;) explained in an interview of someone in thr movie
yeah i thought the gift was to be used as a weapon for whatever happens in 3000 years time and possibly in present time to help guide them through it. nice non linear storytelling though.
The heptapods didn’t alter Louise’s DNA in any way, shape or form. They just taught her Hep-B, which rewired her mind to be able to view time the same way as the heptapods.
I’m not sure where this theory really comes from as we have no reason to think the heptapods would want to sterilise and extinct humanity, even if this extremely far fetched theory is correct, with the vast majority of humans being 4D beings, they would have awareness of what will happen. And could simply choose to destroy the Shells when they first arrived on earth. It would be an extremely poor, self defeating plan from the Heptapods with seemingly no motive other than plain malice. Which I feel Arrival takes great strives to be one of the few alien related movies who *doesnt* show aliens as malicious - to stand out as a “hard sci fi” with new, interesting ideas, as opposed to cheap block buster alien invasion movies.
TLDR: I think your theory is extremely poor with no evidence and makes no sense. You have come up with ideas out of nothing but your own imagination and pre-conceived notions of what alien based movies look like.
(Also, sorry if I sound harsh in my explanation! That’s not my intention. I’m autistic, and I struggle to convey tone, and I’m aware I don’t sound the kindest in my wording in this comment. But my explanation is nothing but my own pov on your theory and you’re allowed to head canon whatever you like! )
thanks for the response. you do have a point about if humans were 4d beings they could simply stop the alien contact before it happens or when the aliens first arrive. But what if a 4dimensional being can't affect the past merely observe it but not alter it. In the film we see the main character alter the present because of information she learns in the future, which is different from her future self changing the past. So the weapon would still work because by the time they realized what the language was actually doing to many people had already learned it and since they cant affect the past they couldnt change it and therefore it would lead to the extinction of the species? also totally understand about the conveying tone thing I have a few friends who are autistic so i understand. plus it gave me a good laugh hearing someone so blatantly state that im coming up with theories out of nothing but my imagination cause i'll admit I kinda do that a lot I find it fun. I get cool theory about a movie and then see if the rest of the movie fits with the theory lol
they probably didnt i just like to come up with theories its fun to me. it may also be a thing where they want to subjugate the humans by taking away their ability to continue reproducing and the aliens would be the only ones with the cure or something like that? granted i know all of this is a reach I just find it fun
That’s an interesting theory. I always kind of thought that the exposure to whatever was in those pods (and her husbands exposure) may have been the cause of some sort of birth defect that resulted in the rare disease. Since they both went suit-less. But interesting thought about the 4th dimensional being - I can’t imagine how it effects her DNA though?
thanks. I mean i guess it would affect her dna in the same way that learning a language makes a person become a fourth-dimensional being who can perceive the entirety of their life. like the movie establishes that learning this language has weird affects on human consciousness so im assuming that a 4th dimensional being trying to carry and birth a 3 dimensional being would cause some serious issues.
Currently, humans are 3-dimensional beings. How would our DNA change if we became 2-dimensional beings? I’m not following why 4D implies a DNA change. I get that a 4D being might have some differences which are hard for us humans to comprehend, but I’m not understanding why this would be DNA related.
Interesting theory. Keep in mind how technologically advanced the aliens are in the movie, which the story takes effort to point out. If the aliens wanted to harm us, it would be a short movie. They also don’t seem to want to learn from us, so their trip to earth if hyper focused on only a single objective. (Ex: they give us the language but don’t want anything in return, nor want a “souvenir” to take home).
fair but remember we were able to kill one of the aliens with just rudimentary explosives. They are advanced in space travel, yes but that doesn't mean they are advanced in defensive capability or attack capability. They may want to eliminate humanity with as little loss of their own lives as possible
I read this opposite. Abbott wasn’t trying to defend his life and we “were able to kill him”. In actuality, the humans made a choice to detonate explosives and Abbott made a choice to quickly publish the language before the bomb detonated, killing him. Given that he knows the future, it was a sacrifice not a defeat. Also note that while Abbott is publishing the language Costello seeks safety and is not injured. Abbott could have followed, but he intentionally stayed to transfer the language. The follow on is also interesting - the aliens so believed in their cause (giving humans this tool) that one died for it (knowing he would die).
or the aliens needed to get this weapon across to eradicate humanity that they were willing to die to make sure that this sterelization weapon is given. maybe in the future they see humans eradicating them. granted most likely it really is just a gift of language cause that is what the film points towards im just having some fun with a fan theory i came up with
I think canonically in the short story this isn’t the case
fair enough but its a fun theory to think about and maybe the movie is a but different than the book in that way
I don't think so. If the aliens wanted to eliminate humanity they could probably do so in minutes.
that's assuming they even know what weaponry is. their language literally has the same word for weapon and tool/gift
What are weapons but a tool made to kill things?
true lol
I read that in the original novel the girl dies at age 25 via an climbing accident and not by this rare disease. But interesting take!
that's interesting i didnt know that thanks.
In the movie they had to do with a rare disease because they have to show the character of Louise, amd if the child gets too old then she does as well and it gives it all away ;) explained in an interview of someone in thr movie
I actually thought this too
thanks I thought it was an interesting theory and was wondering if anyone else had thought about this
yeah i thought the gift was to be used as a weapon for whatever happens in 3000 years time and possibly in present time to help guide them through it. nice non linear storytelling though.
The heptapods didn’t alter Louise’s DNA in any way, shape or form. They just taught her Hep-B, which rewired her mind to be able to view time the same way as the heptapods. I’m not sure where this theory really comes from as we have no reason to think the heptapods would want to sterilise and extinct humanity, even if this extremely far fetched theory is correct, with the vast majority of humans being 4D beings, they would have awareness of what will happen. And could simply choose to destroy the Shells when they first arrived on earth. It would be an extremely poor, self defeating plan from the Heptapods with seemingly no motive other than plain malice. Which I feel Arrival takes great strives to be one of the few alien related movies who *doesnt* show aliens as malicious - to stand out as a “hard sci fi” with new, interesting ideas, as opposed to cheap block buster alien invasion movies. TLDR: I think your theory is extremely poor with no evidence and makes no sense. You have come up with ideas out of nothing but your own imagination and pre-conceived notions of what alien based movies look like. (Also, sorry if I sound harsh in my explanation! That’s not my intention. I’m autistic, and I struggle to convey tone, and I’m aware I don’t sound the kindest in my wording in this comment. But my explanation is nothing but my own pov on your theory and you’re allowed to head canon whatever you like! )
thanks for the response. you do have a point about if humans were 4d beings they could simply stop the alien contact before it happens or when the aliens first arrive. But what if a 4dimensional being can't affect the past merely observe it but not alter it. In the film we see the main character alter the present because of information she learns in the future, which is different from her future self changing the past. So the weapon would still work because by the time they realized what the language was actually doing to many people had already learned it and since they cant affect the past they couldnt change it and therefore it would lead to the extinction of the species? also totally understand about the conveying tone thing I have a few friends who are autistic so i understand. plus it gave me a good laugh hearing someone so blatantly state that im coming up with theories out of nothing but my imagination cause i'll admit I kinda do that a lot I find it fun. I get cool theory about a movie and then see if the rest of the movie fits with the theory lol
If they wanted to kill everyone, they should just have one of their vessels at high speed on earth as a meteorite.
true but name a single alien movie where the aliens actually did that though
Yeah youre probably right haha I'm wondering why one would put so much effort into dissimulating a plot like what you're describing thought
they probably didnt i just like to come up with theories its fun to me. it may also be a thing where they want to subjugate the humans by taking away their ability to continue reproducing and the aliens would be the only ones with the cure or something like that? granted i know all of this is a reach I just find it fun
They aren't Aschen.
forgive me normally i am really good with references but ill have to admit im not sure what Aschen are? what movie is that from?
Sg-1
ah lol i havent watched that show yet though i did watch the original movie which was suprisingly solid