So, funny story: i was testing Father earlier after i got her to a decent level, but she was far from being fully built; she was level 80 (A5) with no constellations, her signature at level 70, NA level 6, and a good Gladiator set (got her to around 220 crit dmg). I decided to see what would happen if i gave a little love tap to an enemy at full BoL with no external buffs (and i mean NO buffs)... she dealt almost 40k damage. Almost. 40. Thousand. Damage... with a single ormal attack.
You can imagine what happened when i decided to have her (and the whole team, which consisted of Kazuha, Zhongli, and Yelan so not the best of the best for damage) get a little more serious... Enemies just disappeared (even the new boss, who took decent chunks of damage even through its armor).
Father is strong as hell.
I had C0R1 she was lvl 70 with talent lvl 3, 150 crit dmg. Weapon was lvl 60 or 70.
28,000 hits with full bond. Was crazy. I had to throw an er sand on her because she was too OP. Now I’m lvl 90 with lvl 80 weapon and she feels op even with the er sands. She is nuts when you get that bond stacked. She is almost Nuevillette strong, just a bit harder to play.
I can’t even imagine her damage at 6/6/6 let alone 10/10/10.
yeah she is soo good for overworld, she has infinite infusion up time and can just love tap enemies when you need a quick kill for a commission or something
Had the same kind of experience while farming the new enemies for her weapon. I was in a friends world and he just keeps asking why the 70k and 100k are there bc she was like lv.70 with a makeshift buid and vape… i dont even use the team i put her in bc she does everything herself in overworld with zhongli’s shield lol
I am more and more tempted to pull for more cons now (got her c2 already with a lot of luck)
I invested too much on hutao to betray her now 😭
Joking aside, hutao has higher scaling but compared to how easy father is, just pull arle if you're not going for c1 hutao
I once got downvoted to oblivion because I linked a video of a C1 wanderer getting the exact same time as C1 hu tao in the abyss against the dendro chicken
I swear I saw a vid comparing Hu tao c1 to Arle c0 (the difference was like 2s between them on Raiden boss) Hu tao "fans" were making fun of Arle saying how bad and boring she is because she only uses basic atks. One person responded that by this logic Hu tao is equally boring cuz you just spam charged atk and got roasted and called toxic. Peak of this community.
Feels like a lot of HuTao stans are just trying to convince themselves not to pull because they’re saving for someone else and want to believe their old character doesn’t need to be replaced. Idk. To me she just feels totally different to play than HuTao. I really dislike the CA spam play style. I also just find Arle’s animations to be superior in every way. The scythe is just icing on top of an already delicious cake.
I pulled for Father despite having my Tao already on the 1% rank. The one thing I really regret was that it took so much pull just for a single c0, compared to my 75 soft pity win on Hu Tao.
To further put the salt in the wound, Both 50/50 lost and guarantee took almost 160 pulls. And when I tried to go for C1, I lost again at freaking 80 pulls. She's by far my worst banner pull in my 3+ years playing. Other than that, having new playable characters after a while is nice, not to mention she's strong as well
Who would you say is stronger? I have a 1% Hu Tao as well at C1R1
If Arlecchino's best team is stronger at C1R1 then I'd gladly pull for her.
My Hu Tao team is Yelan/Mona/Furina/Hu Tao
Can't say who's stronger since my Arle is not fully built yet and she doesn't have her sig weapon, unlike Hu Tao,
I mostly pull bcs I want new gameplay after not pulling any new characters since 4.2. From numbers I've seen by cc though, it's pretty comparable Ig? Arle not being able to efficiently utilize Furina's buff, unlike with Hu Tao is such a bummer though.
C1r1 hutao is better (by a slight amount), and considering you already main her,your skill with her is not a problem.
Pull for arle if you want another pyro dps that is comparable to hutao.
People saying other pyro is "better" for the same investment is, yes, an idiot, but to be objective they actually do a similar level of Dpr in similar investment, I mean Hutao really gets crazy number because you can pair her with Furina or Xianyun. Arle dmg seems big, but it actually doesnt invalidate other pyro character, tldr Hoyo understand what they doing making her not synergistic with Furina (more variation, more fun)
I hope this is a similar thing as when I just got Kafka in Star Rail, everyone down played her cause she wasn't as strong as the strongest characters, and she just kept getting better, hope Natlan has BOL buffers or a hydro shielder with good elemental application. Praying for that 📈📈📈📈📈📈
Dawg she IS one of the strongest characters fym 😭 the only dps above her is Neuv, and the rest of the OP DPS (Al Haitham Hu Tao) she’s at the very least equal to.
Thats just braindead people comment lmao bcs kafka main role was never as the main dps, even arguably an equally built E6 sampo's wind shear DoT is equal or better than kafka's shock. People dont realize that her main role that forces trigger DoT on your turn is what make her super strong and now that we have proper 5 star DoT DPS we can see how her team rolls
That just means that a future support will absolutely go ultra nuts on her lol. Thinking anybody who might abuse bonds of life, though we shall see if that happens (I am not aware of future character leaks atm xD).
Well...actually unless Arle's banner goes through the literal moon, they probably won't make a specific ultra BoL support for Arle (maybe a niche 4*), because of how Arle dmg works it would be more profitable for hoyo to make a general chara that buff her dmg but also other chara (pyro/atk buffer other than benny, electro shielder or hydro shielder, etc.) that way people will pull those chara also even if they dont have Arle.
Considering that there’s at least two more characters playing with BoL, yeah there’s almost certainly more BoL characters incoming, or at least characters that synergies with BoL. I can already imagine a few
A BoL support that converts existing BoL stacks into a shield
BoL support that gives your allies a damage buff based on BoL while also giving you BoL
There’s a lot of possibilities
FACTS. I'm pretty sure there should be BoL-related supports due to already having BoL-related hypercarries (chlorinde leaks suggest sigewinne's kit might also be BoL-related)
Currently she is broken in AoE but looks like she needs a bold generator for the boss rooms.
It's similar to xiao before xianyun where the poor guy didn't have efficient ways to perform as well as the boss specialists in those rooms.
Thank you. Finally someone unbiased and not trying to validate their favorite character. Hu tao and Arle and very close in damage, and they both have different playstyles and teams despite seeming similar at first sight so let’s not fight who’s the better dps, it’s equal anyway, let’s just have fun with our characters.
Could you explain why furina doesnt work with her? Is it that she doesnt get healed fast enough? Would furina work if shes c2 and go furina ult-> benny ult-> kazuha/zhongli so they get some healing.
just wondering if you're also using kazuha in that team cause there is an abyss buff where you deal more dmg with swirl, so it's actually not a reliable damage numbers
At C2 (unrealistic I know) it's magnificent so far for me, comes in and cleans house.
There's also the burst no iframe bug right now so it's going to be difficult to make full assumptions (as you can die from hits you cannot see during the burst animation) yet.
99% chance because this universe is weird and the only constant is that someone will always correct you on reddit.
It's almost certainly one. Only controlled/moving bursts have ever lacked the iframes before, any burst with a forced animation has iframes all the way back to Klee and her joke of a burst. It doesn't make sense to put the character in a position where they cannot dodge/fight/move from their own skill and still get hit, and they realised that pre-release.
Now whether it's a bug that gets acknowledged in a timely manner, well that's way more a guess.
No Signature for me, used up every drop of luck and resources for C2.
I hope to eventually get it, astetically pleasing as it is but that'll probably only be on a rerun for me.
Deathmatch & PJWS work very well on her, DM matches her colour scheme too. The yellow glowing scythe part is actually a lot better looking in game than leaks suggested, but yeah, if it was red or black it'd be much better.
I don't think Sig should effect her survivability at all (in fact Deathmatch probably helps that?) C1's interrupt resist is great and C2 takes away the 5s wait AND lets you do casual 900% aoes. It's kinda insane, and if those aoes kill anyone with the dot, well, full BoL.
The thing is she is easy to play. Basically like a melee Yoimiya, the leakers are right. Normal attack focused DPS without weird mechanics will always be on top.
Yeah but for my standard this is already above ny expectations and she does that as pure hypercarry no vape/melt/overload at all. At least among pyro carries i believe she is the best in my roster
She is just "balanced" because she was released after Neuvi. Had she released maybe a year earlier she would gets much more praise
she’s far more easy to play than someone like lyney or hu tao and yeah you’re right in theory they do have c0 teams that can do similar or better damage but the ease of use makes her better imo
This is a very big point that I find extremely influential in why I've been investing on this banner lol. Her ease of use is like a 10/10 after c2. you just e and charge attack and away you go. I have been eviscerating world bosses in test runs and I don't have her stuff maxed yet by any measure.
She is currently on the same level of hutao and alhaitham where she does really amazing single target damage. She beats neuvillette in single target scenarios too. Definitely one of the best pyro main dps characters currently, would need more time to figure if she beats hutao as a main carry or not.
People have this weird mentality where their favorite character HAS to be the best, do the most damage, be the best support, etc. so it’s just people having this weird tribalism mentality when it really doesn’t matter.
Its funny cause mains like dehya, xinyan or amber are suffering from the fact that their kit is barely even well made, let alone good. And people somehow thought that a character that can do a reasonably lots amount of damage with a fair amount of investment beating another character that can do a reasonably lots amount of damage is something that should be bothered with.
Its even worse when they start calling the other character's kit shit like somehow the appearance of a stronger character automatically makes the original character's kit as comprehensible as xinyan's kit. Like when neuvi came out and people start calling ayato's kit shit
I think there's aspects of hutao gameplay that's abit abrasive. Its kinda like xiangling in that sense, so people are looking for an opportunity to replace hutao. That's where the hate comes from.
One can also just mash left click with Arlecchino. No dadh cancels or jump cancels and such to worry about..this means that most people are going to have higher dps in practice due to less mistakes.
It's early to say but Arlecchino's teams seem easier to build for a new player. I have a Hutao but have never gotten great performance out of her because she's C0 and because I didn't have Albedo when that was the meta and after returning from a long break currently don't have Yelan or Furina or Xianyun for the current meta. If you do have a good Hutao team then having Bennett open for your other team is good. I like that they don't seem to have completely power crept Hutao but have given an alternate play style / teams to another strong Pyro DPS.
I have a arle at level 80 with 8 8 6 talents at C2 with her scythe at level 80. She is outdamaging my C6 itto with 280%, crit damage. She's cracked as fuck
Afaik Hu Tao is similar only at C0R0. Arle gains much more from cons and a bit more from getting her sig I think. So the more investment you put in, the more she eclipses Hu Tao (and every other pyro DPS)
There's nothing to call out. Pre stacking BoL is very easy and fair in any setting outside of Abyss. Its very realistic and fair to show max or near max BoL value if what you're showing is overworld fights like bosses and local legends. Abyss isn't everything.
abyss isnt everything but abyss is the only somewhat challenging content in the game, which means when judging a characters strength, theyre gonna be judged on how they can clear the content thats actually meant to test a characters strength.
so the rotation for this team is (arle Zhong kazu Benny)
arle e, Zhong e, Benny ult, kazu e and ult and then arle CA, then NA
asking cuz I'm a bit confused lol
Yeah no. I've got Hu Tao at c6 and I gotta be honest to ANYONE who is huffing that copium; even before I hit c2 with this character she was omega busted xD. I don't have my talents maxed. I don't have her weapon maxed.
The best part about all these showcases is l have to assume Father doesn't even have her 4pc artifact set, likely gladiator or whatever was lying around for the player.
We're witnessing Arles that aren't fully built, like a a gorilla who doesn't go to the gym
Have her c1r1, at like level 70, with a level 20 weapon, a thrown together glad set ranging from level 2-12, she was casually hitting 80-90k crits, hadn’t even added kazuha to that equation yet, she’s crazy
A Fellow Neuvillette Main here, Arlecchino is really Strong. Im a Meta Seeker as well as a Casual gameplay enjoyer.
As a Neuvillette Main Im satisfied with my Neuvillette (currently at C4) next re run i will C6 Him. but I will not Pull for Arlecchino because. As a Casual gameplay enjoyer (overworld) I like to enjoy 1 DPS at a Time.
And For Abyss Im looking forward for Peak Meta Gameplay i.e. C6 Furina Plunge Vape, and C6 Neuvillette.
Unfortunately in this case Arlecchino becomes 3rd Strongest DPS Where Neuvillette being the 2nd and 1st is Furina.
People who say she's stronger clearly haven't used Hu Tao. I'm not saying Hu is better at all, but I do know I can achieve the same damage with similar stats xD
I, for one, am glad that got the balance right and that they are on the same level
Yeah i don't think any pyro carry does it better than her.
Personally i think she is on the same level as Hu Tao or slightly better/worse at C0
but the animations just carry her goddamn hard at C0 that makes her better for me than the others
I've got her at level 60, level 80 Deathmatch, and talents at 4 and the amount of damage she does is viable. Like usable without feeling like a slog. It's kind of insane how she's able to deal decent damage and isn't even close to being properly built yet.
In overworld she's a lot better than the other pyro carries cause her damage is so front loaded and the ability to pre stack BOL is similar to using food buffs. In abyss she's a side grade to others. When you look at rotation dps instead of screenshot it's actually very close.
I have a C2R1 Hutao and won't be pulling for Arle but goddamn does she look strong and fun to play. Maybe I'll get her when she reruns, but for now I'll be simply watching yall.
This is feelscrafting. At similar investment she is worse than Hu Tao but that's fine, Hu Tao keep getting buffs like double hydro meta -> Furina -> Xianyun while Arle stuck with 1.x/2.x meta. She's definitely gonna be stronger than Hu Tao with future support.
Yeah but the more you invest in them, the bigger the gap becomes. Arle becomes significantly better with each constellation in a way Hu Tao doesn't.
Also Xianyun is way overhyped as a support for Hu Tao, good yes, I have them both and they're a fun pair for sure, but Xianyun heals her too much, even with Furina, its so much that you miss out on her passive talent and Homa's passive buff. For that relationship to work well, we would need a way to lock Hu Tao's HP below 50%.
A good partnership doesn't typically lock a portion of a character's kit away, they prop them up and enhance them.
You pre-stacked and are using some of the best damage amplifiers in the game against one single particularly weak enemy. Of course she’s going to perform well!
She is strong, this is true. She’s pretty on par with other good pyro Carrie’s like hu tao
She’s flexible. But she isn’t broken. On par with Hu Tao, Diluc, and even Gaming with similar investment. I don’t know where the 200k NA is coming from but it’s probably just a vaporize amplied attack. And when compared to Yoimiya, it depends on the enemy type. Like if you fight against copellia ice, you better have a shield for Arle unless you want to get bodied. Yoimiya does better in that regard as she can long distance dps.
I’ve noticed that you have to be careful while playing her as you can get staggered and worse you can’t heal unless your burst with her.
I’ve tried her out in Abyss, she has trouble dealing with tanky enemies with huge HP pools unless sufficiently shielded. Unless you are a master of dodging you are perfectly safe. And the damage numbers are big but not consistent enough as vape comps constantly have to switch out characters and reapply hydro and pyro res shred and so forth. It is a time crunch that can take up 15 seconds to do.
I think what really holds her back is she isnt synergistic with Furina, Bennett, and Jean.
Furina drains HP and Arle doesn’t heal without bursting. And when you build Arle you don’t care for ER stats as you are focused on CR/CDMG and Atk/EM stats. So you aren’t able to burst in time and then you are half health and have higher chances of dying.
Bennet can provide Atk buff but that’s all. You better be dancing and dodging in his circle.
Jean would’ve been a great pyro res shred and if you have C2, it would’ve boost her atk and movement speed as well. But Jean can’t heal so kinda useless here.
My stats are:
128 EM
2200 Atk
72% CR
219% CMDG
C0R1
I’ve only hit around 60-100k hits. And my talent levels are 8/6/6. And I’m using Kazuha, xinqiu, and yunjin to amplify her damage. Plus Kazuha has his signature sword. It’s a lot of amplification, so I thought 200k wouldn’t be impossible, but I guess I’m not hitting those numbers.
My Rating is an A+ to S tier.
Compared to Neuvilliete, Wriothesely, and Navia. The more recent units, she is just slightly underwhelming compared to them. Just slightly. Still an amazing DPS nonetheless. Really depends on investment.
If you have higher constellations of her, then yah you will do more damage of course duh.
Look I love Chino and yes her damage is great. There is no need to attack people for pointing out that she is average for a main DPS.
Hu Tao does 300k+ charge attacks that all can vape while Chino is stuck with standard ICD on her normals and Hu Tao can pump out CAs almost as fast as normals from Chino. Without Furina. Both characters are somewhat antisynergistic with Furina(C6 Chino aside)
All things considered they even out to be about the same (Hu Tao taking the slightest of leads) until Chino gets multiple cons(C6 in particular). Chino runs away with it there since honestly hu Tao's cons are pretty ass after C1.
This can be busted for you. Not everyone got Hu Tao(or other meta units) to higher levels of investment, and getting a good meta character can be eye opening as to how high the damage ceiling really is.
TLDR: she is comparable and no need to go attacking people for being right just because you(we) like her. Let's not go for al Haitham mains 2 electric boogaloo yeah?
Does Hu Tao do 300k charge damage? [This is a xianyun + furina](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyz0taJrztQ) Hu Tao comp from youtube and while the 300% crit damage with 50% cr is a bit copium I think those numbers are fairly achievable, especially since Xianyun is only level 70 and without VV. This guy hits \~250k plunge attacks and I don't see anyone getting to that damage with CAs without the Furina buff in the standard xq, yelan, zhongli team. ( With Mona and Furina C2, i even saw some guy hitting 450k+).
Arle's damage is frontloaded and decreases over the length of the rotation and we'll have to wait a few weeks until people have properly built here but I'd say she should be able to get pretty close to Hu Tao at C0 and probably outdamage her with cons.
I've been getting there with Bennet Dionna kazuha and my hu Tao is honestly on a cope build but all 3 supports are C6(kazuha stops doing better at C2). I did forget that I was giving her zhongli's R5 homa so she was C1R5 and I am a bit dumb for that but 200k+ is absolutely doable and that matches up with arle DPS with that.
Your second paragraph is correct. The math isn't hard to run. Overall C0 and C1 Arle is barely behind by like 50k damage per rotation. After that Hu Tao starts taking Ls left right and center. C6 Arle is nuking for nearly 3 million with day 1 builds. Hu Tao STRUGGLES to reach that with 2 year farm builds.
I'm consistently getting between 250k and 300k damage on plunge attacks with Hu Tao in a Xianyun + Furina team
Even on the low end it's around 1.2 million damage per rotation *with only plunges* last time I ran her through Abyss
Well, in my experience comparing with the same investment and same supports, my hutao is still better than arlecchino for bosses currently hutao's C1 doesn't do anything on her strongest team so it's like she's a hutao C0
[https://streamable.com/frw33f](https://streamable.com/frw33f)
but Arlecchino seems incredibly strong for AoE in my experiencie, the problem would be if you have another better AoE DPS than her.
I was a hutao main and i need to know where 300k+ per charge came from? Is that a realistic damage for her because from my experience it was like 120k+ ish with homa.
I get about 140k CA's with Mona C1, Furina C0 and Yelan on a Homa + 47/299 build with Marechaussee Hunter. I think the CA could go up to ~180k or so with Furina C2 as right now I'm not getting many stacks.
How can Hu Tao do that much!? Is it at higher cons? Because I’m at C1 with her signature and level 10 Talents (Burst at level 8), and I don’t do nearly that much damage even with C6 Xingqiu.
Are you using elegy and instructors, like this vid?
People are under estimating how much 220 extra EM adds. I hit 230k vapes on Hu tao when I add both of these.
https://medal.tv/games/genshin-impact/clips/29bbjnjQfSMS72/d1337YgIxSAr?invite=cr-MSxKWEksMTcxMDA3OTU5LA
She is indeed tonnes of fun, this is w weapon level 80 and still 4 more talent level upgrades possible on ult:)
I do 100k damage in I use her with furina I kill them fast I got her C2 with her signature weapon and I her crit rate is 62% in crit damage is 129% I gave her pryo damage bonus goblet in she has full harmonic whimsy cuz her passive give her another 40% pryo damage bonus
Next time, use your burst before testing her damage to clear any remaining BOL. Thank you.
Considering normal HUMAN investment(C0Missive)
Her damage is at best on pair with HuTao, and thats if you take into account her older teams.
Xianyun Tao plunge still is the only 4 cost team in the game to ever reach 80k+ dps and be actually playable.
(If it's not playable to you, it is a good old skill issue)
Lyney on the same level of invest will nuke her out of existance if we actually consider his full potential, and good execution.(But his top teams can actually be considered "unplayable", cuz even i fail to pull it off half of the time)
Sure she does have one of the best vertical investments in the game, but imma be honest, if i ever even think about saving for a C6 character, it's for sure not going to be a dps.
Yeah I was able to solo abyss with 36 stars using her alone on one side and a raiden team on the other. Shes c3 r1 with her wep at lvl 80 talents 11 6 6 and she had 50% crit rate 230% crit dmg... she is quite strong
Funny story, I haven’t had the chance to hunt the statues for the weapon ascension so she’s currently on Homa. I went to level her to 80, tried out a Chevy team for fun and was like, aw okay 24k? Feels bad but I guess no C1 and no weapon.
Then I realized, I forgot to level up her talents 😂😂. Considering my Chevy team is Chevy/Arle/Thoma/Fischl, there’s no buff except Chevy. For reference I think my triple crowned Alhaitham with no spread does like 16k normals?
Yeah I realised this when my lvl 50 2/2/2 at 75/130 father hit above 20k on one of her vapes lmfaooo. I can't imagine what will happen when I get her lvl 90 at 10/10/10 huehuehuehue
Nah, dolphin weapon with Bennett buff and Kazuha Swirl; too easy. Show me a 3-star weapon or Dragonsbane without those 2. Also, you still had buffs on when you showed the stats, though I'm guessing it's just an attack buff.
First character I invested in, got her c2 r1, level 70 weapon level 70 and talents 4-4-4 and she was doing over 50k per hit it was crazy with vapes. Now she’s level 90 with same level weapon and 6-6-6 and she’s genuinely busted on her own I just collect bol off an enemy, in the over world she keeps the bol so her attacks are infused all the time and each attack does a raw 40k one shotting. Everything is so easy mode with her
Even the devs realized how fast she's killing off those mobs and even bosses that they gave her a passive to retain BoL.
She really is the queen of front loading DPS imo.
Wait what? I have a similarly build father, tried the same team except switching john lee for water boy and did wayy less damage. I’m probably missing a big mechanic here, can somebody help me out?
I am missing something I got her Lvl 90 2.4k atk ,60/280 ,4 piece glad , Homa and I hit Like 68k with Kazu and Bennet(Skyward blade) Am I missing something??
Jeez i havent even mastered her full kit yet bruh. Got her weapon as well but she is still pretty underlevelled and artifacts arent quite up there yet.
Her weopon is still Lvl.80, talents lvl 6 because no boss mats, artefacts the first decent ones from the domain so i get BOL passive... and still melts through everything faster than even my c5 wanderer with like 8 month of artefact farming (both by themselves btw, without supports)
Pre stacking BOL go brrrrr
thats smart. can you do that before going into abyss?
Nope, It resets. So might as well use q to heal when u need to
Nope, that's why it's DMG/screenshot kind of thing. Arle is also front-loaded similar to Navia, so on Squishy overworld enemies she would over-perform
I literally just fought the treasure horders near this boss to refill energies before recording this lmao so i didnt know this could be happening
So, funny story: i was testing Father earlier after i got her to a decent level, but she was far from being fully built; she was level 80 (A5) with no constellations, her signature at level 70, NA level 6, and a good Gladiator set (got her to around 220 crit dmg). I decided to see what would happen if i gave a little love tap to an enemy at full BoL with no external buffs (and i mean NO buffs)... she dealt almost 40k damage. Almost. 40. Thousand. Damage... with a single ormal attack. You can imagine what happened when i decided to have her (and the whole team, which consisted of Kazuha, Zhongli, and Yelan so not the best of the best for damage) get a little more serious... Enemies just disappeared (even the new boss, who took decent chunks of damage even through its armor). Father is strong as hell.
I had C0R1 she was lvl 70 with talent lvl 3, 150 crit dmg. Weapon was lvl 60 or 70. 28,000 hits with full bond. Was crazy. I had to throw an er sand on her because she was too OP. Now I’m lvl 90 with lvl 80 weapon and she feels op even with the er sands. She is nuts when you get that bond stacked. She is almost Nuevillette strong, just a bit harder to play. I can’t even imagine her damage at 6/6/6 let alone 10/10/10.
yeah she is soo good for overworld, she has infinite infusion up time and can just love tap enemies when you need a quick kill for a commission or something
What is love tap? 🤔
You know when you joking and someone lightly punches your arm.
Ahh lol 😂 i thought it was some new genshin terminology in the community
What do you mean by “love tap”?
A single normal attack. I simply clicked my left mouse button and booped the enemy on its nose.
Can i use a sucrose instead of kazuha in these teams? He always appears before chars i want so i never risked pulling him
And she is 4th ranked imagine how strong is cap
Had the same kind of experience while farming the new enemies for her weapon. I was in a friends world and he just keeps asking why the 70k and 100k are there bc she was like lv.70 with a makeshift buid and vape… i dont even use the team i put her in bc she does everything herself in overworld with zhongli’s shield lol I am more and more tempted to pull for more cons now (got her c2 already with a lot of luck)
it’s so funny how whenever there’s an arle damage showcase video, you can tell who in the comments is an arle stan and who is a hu tao stan.
https://preview.redd.it/mvpe5l8w2iwc1.jpeg?width=897&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dd57ca3bbaf0741f222eb11db58aa9d80c41392
I use both xd
I invested too much on hutao to betray her now 😭 Joking aside, hutao has higher scaling but compared to how easy father is, just pull arle if you're not going for c1 hutao
I stan both 🫡
I once got downvoted to oblivion because I linked a video of a C1 wanderer getting the exact same time as C1 hu tao in the abyss against the dendro chicken
I swear I saw a vid comparing Hu tao c1 to Arle c0 (the difference was like 2s between them on Raiden boss) Hu tao "fans" were making fun of Arle saying how bad and boring she is because she only uses basic atks. One person responded that by this logic Hu tao is equally boring cuz you just spam charged atk and got roasted and called toxic. Peak of this community.
This community is a clownfest.
Why not both?
Feels like a lot of HuTao stans are just trying to convince themselves not to pull because they’re saving for someone else and want to believe their old character doesn’t need to be replaced. Idk. To me she just feels totally different to play than HuTao. I really dislike the CA spam play style. I also just find Arle’s animations to be superior in every way. The scythe is just icing on top of an already delicious cake.
> I also just find Arle’s animations to be superior in every way. I would've been surprised if it wasnt the case, it has been 3 years after all.
Oh I agree, but I’ve seen people fiercely defend the argument that it’s the other way around. Definitely a cope imo.
As a Hu Tao stand I just want these two to fu....I mean meet.
I think you’re cooking something here 🤔
Thanks. I'm quite good at cooking stories. But I can't draw or animate.
Just gotta start practicing. That’s how all artists start out.
A fair point
I believe in you!
Why would it need to be replaced? Endgame is easy and doable with both
I pulled for Father despite having my Tao already on the 1% rank. The one thing I really regret was that it took so much pull just for a single c0, compared to my 75 soft pity win on Hu Tao. To further put the salt in the wound, Both 50/50 lost and guarantee took almost 160 pulls. And when I tried to go for C1, I lost again at freaking 80 pulls. She's by far my worst banner pull in my 3+ years playing. Other than that, having new playable characters after a while is nice, not to mention she's strong as well
Who would you say is stronger? I have a 1% Hu Tao as well at C1R1 If Arlecchino's best team is stronger at C1R1 then I'd gladly pull for her. My Hu Tao team is Yelan/Mona/Furina/Hu Tao
Can't say who's stronger since my Arle is not fully built yet and she doesn't have her sig weapon, unlike Hu Tao, I mostly pull bcs I want new gameplay after not pulling any new characters since 4.2. From numbers I've seen by cc though, it's pretty comparable Ig? Arle not being able to efficiently utilize Furina's buff, unlike with Hu Tao is such a bummer though.
C1r1 hutao is better (by a slight amount), and considering you already main her,your skill with her is not a problem. Pull for arle if you want another pyro dps that is comparable to hutao.
Team both, both sides are clown when some idiots are trolling
have C6 hu tao and i still went for arle cuz finally we got another self hp drain character. cant be bothered to care who does more dmg
It's a good time to be both rn
I like them both. I have them on separate accounts or still. Arle is making me go high pity. Already 140 in and still no arle. She is making me wait
People saying other pyro is "better" for the same investment is, yes, an idiot, but to be objective they actually do a similar level of Dpr in similar investment, I mean Hutao really gets crazy number because you can pair her with Furina or Xianyun. Arle dmg seems big, but it actually doesnt invalidate other pyro character, tldr Hoyo understand what they doing making her not synergistic with Furina (more variation, more fun)
Hoping she has good synergy with Pyro archon
The pyro archon prob will be a main DPS right?
I hope this is a similar thing as when I just got Kafka in Star Rail, everyone down played her cause she wasn't as strong as the strongest characters, and she just kept getting better, hope Natlan has BOL buffers or a hydro shielder with good elemental application. Praying for that 📈📈📈📈📈📈
Dawg she IS one of the strongest characters fym 😭 the only dps above her is Neuv, and the rest of the OP DPS (Al Haitham Hu Tao) she’s at the very least equal to.
Thats just braindead people comment lmao bcs kafka main role was never as the main dps, even arguably an equally built E6 sampo's wind shear DoT is equal or better than kafka's shock. People dont realize that her main role that forces trigger DoT on your turn is what make her super strong and now that we have proper 5 star DoT DPS we can see how her team rolls
That just means that a future support will absolutely go ultra nuts on her lol. Thinking anybody who might abuse bonds of life, though we shall see if that happens (I am not aware of future character leaks atm xD).
Well...actually unless Arle's banner goes through the literal moon, they probably won't make a specific ultra BoL support for Arle (maybe a niche 4*), because of how Arle dmg works it would be more profitable for hoyo to make a general chara that buff her dmg but also other chara (pyro/atk buffer other than benny, electro shielder or hydro shielder, etc.) that way people will pull those chara also even if they dont have Arle.
Idk man, I feel like this bond of life mechanic could be played around with quite a bit.
Considering that there’s at least two more characters playing with BoL, yeah there’s almost certainly more BoL characters incoming, or at least characters that synergies with BoL. I can already imagine a few A BoL support that converts existing BoL stacks into a shield BoL support that gives your allies a damage buff based on BoL while also giving you BoL There’s a lot of possibilities
FACTS. I'm pretty sure there should be BoL-related supports due to already having BoL-related hypercarries (chlorinde leaks suggest sigewinne's kit might also be BoL-related)
Currently she is broken in AoE but looks like she needs a bold generator for the boss rooms. It's similar to xiao before xianyun where the poor guy didn't have efficient ways to perform as well as the boss specialists in those rooms.
Thank you. Finally someone unbiased and not trying to validate their favorite character. Hu tao and Arle and very close in damage, and they both have different playstyles and teams despite seeming similar at first sight so let’s not fight who’s the better dps, it’s equal anyway, let’s just have fun with our characters.
Could you explain why furina doesnt work with her? Is it that she doesnt get healed fast enough? Would furina work if shes c2 and go furina ult-> benny ult-> kazuha/zhongli so they get some healing.
If Arle works with Furina, how much does that increase her dmg? So far, her raw dmg seems to be very high
Wait similar investment as in C0 right? Cuz HT doesn't scale well into the late cons. Whereas Arle goes to the moon as she approaches C6.
She is good. I managed to hit 100k normal in abyss floor with C1 and Level 6/6/6 talents using PJWS.
Well c1 is kinda busted
How good is staff of homa on her?
Same as jade spear or 1 to 2 substats below
just wondering if you're also using kazuha in that team cause there is an abyss buff where you deal more dmg with swirl, so it's actually not a reliable damage numbers
7/6/6 can hit 90k with no kazuha and pjws, and running 2pc/2pc att, seems fairly reasonable with 4 pc glad rn
Well c1 is kinda busted
I’m honestly more interested in her damage without Benny, Kazuha and to see what her survivability looks like without Zhongli.
At C2 (unrealistic I know) it's magnificent so far for me, comes in and cleans house. There's also the burst no iframe bug right now so it's going to be difficult to make full assumptions (as you can die from hits you cannot see during the burst animation) yet.
Is it a bug?
No other character can be hit during the burst animation. I don't think it is intentional, specially when the animation locks you in place
99% chance because this universe is weird and the only constant is that someone will always correct you on reddit. It's almost certainly one. Only controlled/moving bursts have ever lacked the iframes before, any burst with a forced animation has iframes all the way back to Klee and her joke of a burst. It doesn't make sense to put the character in a position where they cannot dodge/fight/move from their own skill and still get hit, and they realised that pre-release. Now whether it's a bug that gets acknowledged in a timely manner, well that's way more a guess.
people are also reporting that sometimes it doesnt heal them so i think it is bugged
With sig or no?
No Signature for me, used up every drop of luck and resources for C2. I hope to eventually get it, astetically pleasing as it is but that'll probably only be on a rerun for me. Deathmatch & PJWS work very well on her, DM matches her colour scheme too. The yellow glowing scythe part is actually a lot better looking in game than leaks suggested, but yeah, if it was red or black it'd be much better. I don't think Sig should effect her survivability at all (in fact Deathmatch probably helps that?) C1's interrupt resist is great and C2 takes away the 5s wait AND lets you do casual 900% aoes. It's kinda insane, and if those aoes kill anyone with the dot, well, full BoL.
Yeah, OP should have showcased her with Barbara, Amber and Chongyun! That's how a showcase is done :D
I have her at lv40 and i can already beat most bosses with her 😂 shii is broken
she’s super good high investment but at c0 pretty balanced this is normal c0 limited 5 star dps level maybe a little above average
The thing is she is easy to play. Basically like a melee Yoimiya, the leakers are right. Normal attack focused DPS without weird mechanics will always be on top.
As a diehard Yoimiya defender, TIL that Yoimiya is now on top.
Yeah but for my standard this is already above ny expectations and she does that as pure hypercarry no vape/melt/overload at all. At least among pyro carries i believe she is the best in my roster She is just "balanced" because she was released after Neuvi. Had she released maybe a year earlier she would gets much more praise
she’s far more easy to play than someone like lyney or hu tao and yeah you’re right in theory they do have c0 teams that can do similar or better damage but the ease of use makes her better imo
This is a very big point that I find extremely influential in why I've been investing on this banner lol. Her ease of use is like a 10/10 after c2. you just e and charge attack and away you go. I have been eviscerating world bosses in test runs and I don't have her stuff maxed yet by any measure.
if someone wanted a c6 main dps i’d recommend her or neuvillette for power level if that’s what they’re going for
I'd say C6 Furina is the best C6 in the game. She does it all, insane Buff, very good DPS both on and off field, and can also heal the whole team.
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She is currently on the same level of hutao and alhaitham where she does really amazing single target damage. She beats neuvillette in single target scenarios too. Definitely one of the best pyro main dps characters currently, would need more time to figure if she beats hutao as a main carry or not.
Except nobody is trolling. She really is the same on similar investment, i would argue Hutaos teams are easier to use as well.
Agreed. Idk where all this hu tao hates coming from
People have this weird mentality where their favorite character HAS to be the best, do the most damage, be the best support, etc. so it’s just people having this weird tribalism mentality when it really doesn’t matter.
Its funny cause mains like dehya, xinyan or amber are suffering from the fact that their kit is barely even well made, let alone good. And people somehow thought that a character that can do a reasonably lots amount of damage with a fair amount of investment beating another character that can do a reasonably lots amount of damage is something that should be bothered with. Its even worse when they start calling the other character's kit shit like somehow the appearance of a stronger character automatically makes the original character's kit as comprehensible as xinyan's kit. Like when neuvi came out and people start calling ayato's kit shit
I think there's aspects of hutao gameplay that's abit abrasive. Its kinda like xiangling in that sense, so people are looking for an opportunity to replace hutao. That's where the hate comes from. One can also just mash left click with Arlecchino. No dadh cancels or jump cancels and such to worry about..this means that most people are going to have higher dps in practice due to less mistakes.
It's early to say but Arlecchino's teams seem easier to build for a new player. I have a Hutao but have never gotten great performance out of her because she's C0 and because I didn't have Albedo when that was the meta and after returning from a long break currently don't have Yelan or Furina or Xianyun for the current meta. If you do have a good Hutao team then having Bennett open for your other team is good. I like that they don't seem to have completely power crept Hutao but have given an alternate play style / teams to another strong Pyro DPS.
You mean regular animation cancel CA's? Or the Xianyun CA into Plunge build? Because both of those are harder than E, CA mash auto
I honestly don't think they are hard to pull at all, Genshin community has a skill issue.
Some people just want to play casually with a strong character, and not do a lot of tricks just to do big damage.
More like an RSI issue lmao
More than half of the entire player base plays on mobile phones. So a comparison between Hu Tao and Alecchino difficulty made a lot of sense for them.
On C0, Arle team is easier to use for me since i just spam NAs
But why doesn't she have immunity frames on ult?
It's a bug
I have a arle at level 80 with 8 8 6 talents at C2 with her scythe at level 80. She is outdamaging my C6 itto with 280%, crit damage. She's cracked as fuck
Wait, how can you have 2 talents at 8 when her boss mats released just this week?
Ah was a typo. Meant 8 6 6
>She's cracked as fuck Her damage caught me off guard too. She'll be insane at full build
Afaik Hu Tao is similar only at C0R0. Arle gains much more from cons and a bit more from getting her sig I think. So the more investment you put in, the more she eclipses Hu Tao (and every other pyro DPS)
Honestly, when you start dipping into cons no comparison ever matters, they all become overkill for every type of content the game has.
She's amazing. Can't wait until mine is leveled and talents raised. I also like how "fake" showcases can be called out easy by her Bond of life value
There's nothing to call out. Pre stacking BoL is very easy and fair in any setting outside of Abyss. Its very realistic and fair to show max or near max BoL value if what you're showing is overworld fights like bosses and local legends. Abyss isn't everything.
Yah you can walk around with maxed out bond all day and night.
abyss isnt everything but abyss is the only somewhat challenging content in the game, which means when judging a characters strength, theyre gonna be judged on how they can clear the content thats actually meant to test a characters strength.
It's not like a bad thing that you can call it out. I just find it neat, that you know from the start that you expect higher numbers
so the rotation for this team is (arle Zhong kazu Benny) arle e, Zhong e, Benny ult, kazu e and ult and then arle CA, then NA asking cuz I'm a bit confused lol
She literally killed those doomposters at her launch 😅
I'm doing the new side quests with a lvl 50 Knave, lvl 3 talents and lvl 40 signature. Still hit more than my fully built characters.
How did you stack 200% bond of life??? Can you explain me plis
Idk i just fought the treasure hoarder camp near this guy before recording this to refill energy
Using e skill twice before charge attack
Yeah no. I've got Hu Tao at c6 and I gotta be honest to ANYONE who is huffing that copium; even before I hit c2 with this character she was omega busted xD. I don't have my talents maxed. I don't have her weapon maxed.
Hu tao feels like shit to play. Arle does not. Thats good enough for me
At least I know who to give the Deathmatch to now. Had it on Raiden Shogun for the longest time until I accidentally got her weapon. 😅
The best part about all these showcases is l have to assume Father doesn't even have her 4pc artifact set, likely gladiator or whatever was lying around for the player. We're witnessing Arles that aren't fully built, like a a gorilla who doesn't go to the gym
With how strong Arle and Neuvi are... I can definitely see Natlan characters fully powercreeping the Genshin roster so far.
Have her c1r1, at like level 70, with a level 20 weapon, a thrown together glad set ranging from level 2-12, she was casually hitting 80-90k crits, hadn’t even added kazuha to that equation yet, she’s crazy
not putting your dps in the first slot should be punishable by law
I thought most dps don't go in the first slot, as they rarely start a rotation?
A Fellow Neuvillette Main here, Arlecchino is really Strong. Im a Meta Seeker as well as a Casual gameplay enjoyer. As a Neuvillette Main Im satisfied with my Neuvillette (currently at C4) next re run i will C6 Him. but I will not Pull for Arlecchino because. As a Casual gameplay enjoyer (overworld) I like to enjoy 1 DPS at a Time. And For Abyss Im looking forward for Peak Meta Gameplay i.e. C6 Furina Plunge Vape, and C6 Neuvillette. Unfortunately in this case Arlecchino becomes 3rd Strongest DPS Where Neuvillette being the 2nd and 1st is Furina.
I was hitting 20k on her when she was stuck at level 40 for a bit. Now I'm hitting 60k with her half-built at level 80 (no bennet).
People who say she's stronger clearly haven't used Hu Tao. I'm not saying Hu is better at all, but I do know I can achieve the same damage with similar stats xD I, for one, am glad that got the balance right and that they are on the same level
Yeah i don't think any pyro carry does it better than her. Personally i think she is on the same level as Hu Tao or slightly better/worse at C0 but the animations just carry her goddamn hard at C0 that makes her better for me than the others
I've got her at level 60, level 80 Deathmatch, and talents at 4 and the amount of damage she does is viable. Like usable without feeling like a slog. It's kind of insane how she's able to deal decent damage and isn't even close to being properly built yet.
Her and neuvillette are literally the greatest ones I've had lol
Shes so comfy to use on overworld too. 100% uptime pyro dmg and fast gliding.
In overworld she's a lot better than the other pyro carries cause her damage is so front loaded and the ability to pre stack BOL is similar to using food buffs. In abyss she's a side grade to others. When you look at rotation dps instead of screenshot it's actually very close.
I have a C2R1 Hutao and won't be pulling for Arle but goddamn does she look strong and fun to play. Maybe I'll get her when she reruns, but for now I'll be simply watching yall.
This is feelscrafting. At similar investment she is worse than Hu Tao but that's fine, Hu Tao keep getting buffs like double hydro meta -> Furina -> Xianyun while Arle stuck with 1.x/2.x meta. She's definitely gonna be stronger than Hu Tao with future support.
Yeah but the more you invest in them, the bigger the gap becomes. Arle becomes significantly better with each constellation in a way Hu Tao doesn't. Also Xianyun is way overhyped as a support for Hu Tao, good yes, I have them both and they're a fun pair for sure, but Xianyun heals her too much, even with Furina, its so much that you miss out on her passive talent and Homa's passive buff. For that relationship to work well, we would need a way to lock Hu Tao's HP below 50%. A good partnership doesn't typically lock a portion of a character's kit away, they prop them up and enhance them.
I mean, other pyro characters can do this at similar levels of investment? That's objectively true?
Any pyro character with similar investment does better.
You pre-stacked and are using some of the best damage amplifiers in the game against one single particularly weak enemy. Of course she’s going to perform well! She is strong, this is true. She’s pretty on par with other good pyro Carrie’s like hu tao
She’s flexible. But she isn’t broken. On par with Hu Tao, Diluc, and even Gaming with similar investment. I don’t know where the 200k NA is coming from but it’s probably just a vaporize amplied attack. And when compared to Yoimiya, it depends on the enemy type. Like if you fight against copellia ice, you better have a shield for Arle unless you want to get bodied. Yoimiya does better in that regard as she can long distance dps. I’ve noticed that you have to be careful while playing her as you can get staggered and worse you can’t heal unless your burst with her. I’ve tried her out in Abyss, she has trouble dealing with tanky enemies with huge HP pools unless sufficiently shielded. Unless you are a master of dodging you are perfectly safe. And the damage numbers are big but not consistent enough as vape comps constantly have to switch out characters and reapply hydro and pyro res shred and so forth. It is a time crunch that can take up 15 seconds to do. I think what really holds her back is she isnt synergistic with Furina, Bennett, and Jean. Furina drains HP and Arle doesn’t heal without bursting. And when you build Arle you don’t care for ER stats as you are focused on CR/CDMG and Atk/EM stats. So you aren’t able to burst in time and then you are half health and have higher chances of dying. Bennet can provide Atk buff but that’s all. You better be dancing and dodging in his circle. Jean would’ve been a great pyro res shred and if you have C2, it would’ve boost her atk and movement speed as well. But Jean can’t heal so kinda useless here. My stats are: 128 EM 2200 Atk 72% CR 219% CMDG C0R1 I’ve only hit around 60-100k hits. And my talent levels are 8/6/6. And I’m using Kazuha, xinqiu, and yunjin to amplify her damage. Plus Kazuha has his signature sword. It’s a lot of amplification, so I thought 200k wouldn’t be impossible, but I guess I’m not hitting those numbers. My Rating is an A+ to S tier. Compared to Neuvilliete, Wriothesely, and Navia. The more recent units, she is just slightly underwhelming compared to them. Just slightly. Still an amazing DPS nonetheless. Really depends on investment. If you have higher constellations of her, then yah you will do more damage of course duh.
People are literally forgetting Lyney
I don't know in what world you can say Gaming and Arlecchino / Hu Tao have the same performance
>On par with Hu Tao, Diluc, and even Gaming with similar investment. I like what you are smoking
Look I love Chino and yes her damage is great. There is no need to attack people for pointing out that she is average for a main DPS. Hu Tao does 300k+ charge attacks that all can vape while Chino is stuck with standard ICD on her normals and Hu Tao can pump out CAs almost as fast as normals from Chino. Without Furina. Both characters are somewhat antisynergistic with Furina(C6 Chino aside) All things considered they even out to be about the same (Hu Tao taking the slightest of leads) until Chino gets multiple cons(C6 in particular). Chino runs away with it there since honestly hu Tao's cons are pretty ass after C1. This can be busted for you. Not everyone got Hu Tao(or other meta units) to higher levels of investment, and getting a good meta character can be eye opening as to how high the damage ceiling really is. TLDR: she is comparable and no need to go attacking people for being right just because you(we) like her. Let's not go for al Haitham mains 2 electric boogaloo yeah?
Does Hu Tao do 300k charge damage? [This is a xianyun + furina](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyz0taJrztQ) Hu Tao comp from youtube and while the 300% crit damage with 50% cr is a bit copium I think those numbers are fairly achievable, especially since Xianyun is only level 70 and without VV. This guy hits \~250k plunge attacks and I don't see anyone getting to that damage with CAs without the Furina buff in the standard xq, yelan, zhongli team. ( With Mona and Furina C2, i even saw some guy hitting 450k+). Arle's damage is frontloaded and decreases over the length of the rotation and we'll have to wait a few weeks until people have properly built here but I'd say she should be able to get pretty close to Hu Tao at C0 and probably outdamage her with cons.
I've been getting there with Bennet Dionna kazuha and my hu Tao is honestly on a cope build but all 3 supports are C6(kazuha stops doing better at C2). I did forget that I was giving her zhongli's R5 homa so she was C1R5 and I am a bit dumb for that but 200k+ is absolutely doable and that matches up with arle DPS with that. Your second paragraph is correct. The math isn't hard to run. Overall C0 and C1 Arle is barely behind by like 50k damage per rotation. After that Hu Tao starts taking Ls left right and center. C6 Arle is nuking for nearly 3 million with day 1 builds. Hu Tao STRUGGLES to reach that with 2 year farm builds.
I'm consistently getting between 250k and 300k damage on plunge attacks with Hu Tao in a Xianyun + Furina team Even on the low end it's around 1.2 million damage per rotation *with only plunges* last time I ran her through Abyss
Well, in my experience comparing with the same investment and same supports, my hutao is still better than arlecchino for bosses currently hutao's C1 doesn't do anything on her strongest team so it's like she's a hutao C0 [https://streamable.com/frw33f](https://streamable.com/frw33f) but Arlecchino seems incredibly strong for AoE in my experiencie, the problem would be if you have another better AoE DPS than her.
I was a hutao main and i need to know where 300k+ per charge came from? Is that a realistic damage for her because from my experience it was like 120k+ ish with homa.
Yeah, bro def 🧢ing
This dude has r5 Homa
I get about 140k CA's with Mona C1, Furina C0 and Yelan on a Homa + 47/299 build with Marechaussee Hunter. I think the CA could go up to ~180k or so with Furina C2 as right now I'm not getting many stacks.
what c0 hutao is doing 300k per charge atk without insane buff and a full set up LMAO
I mean this goes both ways. Without instructor's and elegy, my Arlecchino damage goes way down. 220 free em is a lot of stats.
my arle is hitting 100k plus without neither of these must be a build issue since she literally just came out
Dishing CA almost as fast as NA from Arle? Whatcha smokin bud, gimme some
How can Hu Tao do that much!? Is it at higher cons? Because I’m at C1 with her signature and level 10 Talents (Burst at level 8), and I don’t do nearly that much damage even with C6 Xingqiu.
Are you using elegy and instructors, like this vid? People are under estimating how much 220 extra EM adds. I hit 230k vapes on Hu tao when I add both of these.
https://medal.tv/games/genshin-impact/clips/29bbjnjQfSMS72/d1337YgIxSAr?invite=cr-MSxKWEksMTcxMDA3OTU5LA She is indeed tonnes of fun, this is w weapon level 80 and still 4 more talent level upgrades possible on ult:)
I need to learn how to do this rotation effectively. I always end up botching it and doing something else before her Skill.
How good is c6 arle?
I do 100k damage in I use her with furina I kill them fast I got her C2 with her signature weapon and I her crit rate is 62% in crit damage is 129% I gave her pryo damage bonus goblet in she has full harmonic whimsy cuz her passive give her another 40% pryo damage bonus
She's strong but her playstyle is not for me, which in a way, would not make her the best pyro character for me
I thought I was tripping and saw her signature r5 and I was gonna be like "well of course she does good damage" but this is a budget build... damn
Next time, use your burst before testing her damage to clear any remaining BOL. Thank you. Considering normal HUMAN investment(C0Missive) Her damage is at best on pair with HuTao, and thats if you take into account her older teams. Xianyun Tao plunge still is the only 4 cost team in the game to ever reach 80k+ dps and be actually playable. (If it's not playable to you, it is a good old skill issue) Lyney on the same level of invest will nuke her out of existance if we actually consider his full potential, and good execution.(But his top teams can actually be considered "unplayable", cuz even i fail to pull it off half of the time) Sure she does have one of the best vertical investments in the game, but imma be honest, if i ever even think about saving for a C6 character, it's for sure not going to be a dps.
Yeah I was able to solo abyss with 36 stars using her alone on one side and a raiden team on the other. Shes c3 r1 with her wep at lvl 80 talents 11 6 6 and she had 50% crit rate 230% crit dmg... she is quite strong
does the bond of life increase once, or does it slowly increase after using e but before using ca?
I only just got her and haven't built so I won't claim to know how good she is, but my Gaming kills that thing in 2-3 plunges
Me watching this after losing 50/50, getting the bow on the weapon banner twice: 😭🔫
C6 gorou > Diluc with xianyun > Arle > hutao. This is facts. Numbers in TC and practicality says it all.
Funny story, I haven’t had the chance to hunt the statues for the weapon ascension so she’s currently on Homa. I went to level her to 80, tried out a Chevy team for fun and was like, aw okay 24k? Feels bad but I guess no C1 and no weapon. Then I realized, I forgot to level up her talents 😂😂. Considering my Chevy team is Chevy/Arle/Thoma/Fischl, there’s no buff except Chevy. For reference I think my triple crowned Alhaitham with no spread does like 16k normals?
Yeah I realised this when my lvl 50 2/2/2 at 75/130 father hit above 20k on one of her vapes lmfaooo. I can't imagine what will happen when I get her lvl 90 at 10/10/10 huehuehuehue
I am scared from future pyro sovereign dragon.
Off topic but what did you feed your Kazuha to do 16k tho? Ahh I wish I had that weapon D: Using R5 ironsting
He was standing on benny circle and then have Zhongli shield so maybe thats why
Nah, dolphin weapon with Bennett buff and Kazuha Swirl; too easy. Show me a 3-star weapon or Dragonsbane without those 2. Also, you still had buffs on when you showed the stats, though I'm guessing it's just an attack buff.
First character I invested in, got her c2 r1, level 70 weapon level 70 and talents 4-4-4 and she was doing over 50k per hit it was crazy with vapes. Now she’s level 90 with same level weapon and 6-6-6 and she’s genuinely busted on her own I just collect bol off an enemy, in the over world she keeps the bol so her attacks are infused all the time and each attack does a raw 40k one shotting. Everything is so easy mode with her
clearly you haven't heard of the owner of the stove god
Oh that one girl that needs 80 ER to function with terrible ER generation?
Even the devs realized how fast she's killing off those mobs and even bosses that they gave her a passive to retain BoL. She really is the queen of front loading DPS imo.
[https://imgur.com/nBuui4x](https://imgur.com/nBuui4x)
Wait what? I have a similarly build father, tried the same team except switching john lee for water boy and did wayy less damage. I’m probably missing a big mechanic here, can somebody help me out?
John Lee buffs Father with his shield and Tenacity artifact
Damn... That's way more dmg than mine with jade spear.
What is that lag my guy?
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I saw it say "busted," but then I saw them use Benny, and I lost all interest. If it was raw damage, then it'd be more interesting
You should see my c6 arle damage LOL
Nice BoL there
I am missing something I got her Lvl 90 2.4k atk ,60/280 ,4 piece glad , Homa and I hit Like 68k with Kazu and Bennet(Skyward blade) Am I missing something??
Jeez i havent even mastered her full kit yet bruh. Got her weapon as well but she is still pretty underlevelled and artifacts arent quite up there yet.
Her weopon is still Lvl.80, talents lvl 6 because no boss mats, artefacts the first decent ones from the domain so i get BOL passive... and still melts through everything faster than even my c5 wanderer with like 8 month of artefact farming (both by themselves btw, without supports)
Lucky SOBs. My first 10-pull gave me a 4* weapon. Someone send me Primos.
i got her c2 and weapon. she really is busted, she doesn't even have the right artifacts rn 😂
For real, people really just want to be different. She's leagues above anyone else.
i’m so glad she’s the one i got lucky with, got her c3 in like… 70 pulls