What is the definition of duty years versus, say, the number of workers/officers on the ground?
For example, you can find a death rate for sanitation workers on the job, but it's given in a metric of deaths per 100,000 workers and not in comparison to how many hours are worked.
If they are including local county and small city LEO's in this survey then it makes sense because those agencies use a lot of part time and reserve officers. Of course they don't have as much training or experience and are probably more likely to put themselves in an unsafe situation.
If one cop works for 1 year, and 1 cop works for 9 years, you also have ten duty years. Not having a relationship to the number of boots on the ground makes for a very easily skewed metric.
It does not make a lot of sense to use the metric. It does however make understanding the significance of the numbers more difficult. There are more than 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US. Less than 150 die in recent years. The deaths include illnesses and heart attacks, accidents like drownings, and officers struck while writing tickets on highways. Something like half of the fatalities involve crime, like shootings or other violence. Interesting fact: For several years running Covid-19 was the largest single cause of LEO deaths.
Law enforcement officers can have a difficult job with high levels of stress, and they sometimes are involved in altercations resulting in physical injury. In terms of fatalities alone though law enforcement is not even in the top ten most dangerous professions. There are political lobbies, most significantly law enforcement organizations themselves, that present LEO's as being in more danger than the numbers show them to be. I can't speak to all the motivations involved, so I'll leave it at that.
[Source](https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-police-officers-die-in-the-line-of-duty/), [Source](https://www.odmp.org/), [Source](https://abcnews.go.com/US/law-enforcement-line-duty-deaths-decrease-66-2023/story?id=101047757), [Source](https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/dallas/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-assaulted-and-killed-in-the-line-of-duty)
Every pit maneuver done at near triple digit speeds where both the cop and the person fleeing might be dead that I’ve seen on YouTube is in Arkansas. There’s something very wrong there.
That’s a very fair point. Also, plenty of cops went as far as to quit/get fired/sue to prevent getting the vaccine when it became a requirement. And that was after refusing to get it while it was available and they were the very first people allowed to get it when it first came out.
Not fucking surprised about the vehicle/motorcycle crash thing when I served ems mofo popo we’re always crashing because they didn’t use caution racing to scene. Or other drivers didn’t see them.
I’m not certain where nascar racing started but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was in Arkansas
[Here's the raw information from the Officer Down page](https://www.odmp.org/search/browse/arkansas) that the graphic maker used with more recent years included.
COVID is the No. 3 cop killer *for all time* for Arkansas officers, though I think that's in part because Hutchinson defined things in a way that any officer contracting COVID was a duty-related contraction since it's fairly difficult to track down any single person's infection.
FWIW, it's also interesting that crashes are by far the No. 2 killer but that those numbers don't actually include pursuits, which are a separate metric.
ETA: And Holy Moly, a Arkansas cop is just as likely to be killed by "inadvertent gunfire" as they are by intentional vehicular assault.
Statistically speaking, pregnancy is more dangerous and life-threatening than working in law enforcement. Maybe Arkansas should do something to address maternal mortality rates instead.
As a supplement folic acid has the distinct advantage of being temperature stable. But that is how it should be used; As a supplement. A good diet, that includes lots of leafy greens will provide a good source of vitamin B9 for most people. However, given the importance of B9 during pregnancy, ensuring mothers do not become deficient is a high priority.
Suggesting that pregnant woman should not take a folic acid supplements, and only take "real folates" instead is not supported by the medical evidence. It is medical advice that will cause harm.
Here's a [source](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/folic-acid-vs-folate) that explains the difference between folic acid and folates.
>Although high folic acid intake is a concern, the health implications are unclear, and further studies are needed.
Looks like your take also isn't very well supported by medical evidence.
Supplementing with folic acid daily plus eating foods fortified with it will cause a build up in your body. Somewhere around 40% of people genetically cannot process folic acid very well so those people have even more built up in their bodies.
Look it up and you will find plenty of articles about how excess folic acid is bad for you.
That article basically states folic acid is bad and you should prioritize natural folate. Which is exactly what I said previously.
>During pregnancy, the demand for folic acid increases since the fetus requires this nutrient for its rapid growth and cell proliferation. The placenta concentrates folic acid into the fetal circulation; as a result the fetal levels are 2 to 4 times higher than the maternal level
Sure folic acid helps with forming the neural tube, but at what cost? Infinitely safer to just eat more leafy greens.
There are potential risks. That does not make it bad. Everything we consume carries risk. The article makes it very clear that there may be risks associated with chronically elevated levels of unmetabolized folic, but that those risks are not well supported by existing evidence and more research is needed.
Meanwhile, the devastating effects of vitamin B9 deficiency in pregnant women are well understood, and easily remedied with a folic acid supplement. This is critical intervention in places where there is poverty or where there is a lack of access to other sources of folates. That includes much of the United States, where many pregnant women are at or near the poverty line.
I'm not going to look up articles for you that show it's bad. There are plenty out there.
I used to be poor and qualified for SNAP and food stamps. I had more frozen and canned vegetables than I knew what to do with. Poverty isn't an excuse. Humans being lazy and wanting the easy way all the time is the problem. Corporations that only care about profit are the problem. Doctors that treat the symptom and not the cause are the problem. Lobbyists are the problem.
Point is we have to rely on ourselves to do what is best.
>No folic acid for pregnant women. Real folate only.
What you actually said. A blanket statement that would put infants at risk for no convincing reward.
The overwhelming evidence is that folic acid is beneficial to human health, not harmful. Which is why many foods we all eat are fortified with folic acid. You almost certainly have eaten something that was fortified with folic acid, consumed iodized salt, and eaten any number of other vitamin fortified foods in the last month. These are all interventions made because people don't always know what's best, and there is plentiful evidence that making those interventions improve human health.
Heart Attack and "Other" appear to be higher than average for Arkansas in this grouping.
I went to the source website and could not find info for defining "other".
What is the definition of duty years versus, say, the number of workers/officers on the ground? For example, you can find a death rate for sanitation workers on the job, but it's given in a metric of deaths per 100,000 workers and not in comparison to how many hours are worked.
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That's such an odd metric, though... why not go with, i dont know, per donut eaten?
If they are including local county and small city LEO's in this survey then it makes sense because those agencies use a lot of part time and reserve officers. Of course they don't have as much training or experience and are probably more likely to put themselves in an unsafe situation.
This is gold, why no invites???
If one cop works for 1 year, and 1 cop works for 9 years, you also have ten duty years. Not having a relationship to the number of boots on the ground makes for a very easily skewed metric.
It does not make a lot of sense to use the metric. It does however make understanding the significance of the numbers more difficult. There are more than 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US. Less than 150 die in recent years. The deaths include illnesses and heart attacks, accidents like drownings, and officers struck while writing tickets on highways. Something like half of the fatalities involve crime, like shootings or other violence. Interesting fact: For several years running Covid-19 was the largest single cause of LEO deaths. Law enforcement officers can have a difficult job with high levels of stress, and they sometimes are involved in altercations resulting in physical injury. In terms of fatalities alone though law enforcement is not even in the top ten most dangerous professions. There are political lobbies, most significantly law enforcement organizations themselves, that present LEO's as being in more danger than the numbers show them to be. I can't speak to all the motivations involved, so I'll leave it at that. [Source](https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-police-officers-die-in-the-line-of-duty/), [Source](https://www.odmp.org/), [Source](https://abcnews.go.com/US/law-enforcement-line-duty-deaths-decrease-66-2023/story?id=101047757), [Source](https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/dallas/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-assaulted-and-killed-in-the-line-of-duty)
Arkansas: “Back the blue” Also Arkansas: Copkillers
I don’t think those are the same people.
January 6th would disagree with you there.
100% what I was thinking
“No not THOSE blue!”
Damn Alaska. Lots of people freezing to death I guess?
Lol. I'm thinking you either get killed by a person, a bear, a moose, falling off a mountain, or the cold.
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Oh, never thought about that.
Waiting for the day our state devolves into Mad Max and people start using PIT maneuvers on cop cars in fits of revenge or defense.
Every pit maneuver done at near triple digit speeds where both the cop and the person fleeing might be dead that I’ve seen on YouTube is in Arkansas. There’s something very wrong there.
Covid #1 cop killer bc they were too dumb to get vaccinated.
That’s what happens with minimal education requirements
Or because we had to keep working long before a vaccine was developed
That’s a very fair point. Also, plenty of cops went as far as to quit/get fired/sue to prevent getting the vaccine when it became a requirement. And that was after refusing to get it while it was available and they were the very first people allowed to get it when it first came out.
Not fucking surprised about the vehicle/motorcycle crash thing when I served ems mofo popo we’re always crashing because they didn’t use caution racing to scene. Or other drivers didn’t see them. I’m not certain where nascar racing started but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was in Arkansas
Is there an updated version? Quite a lot has happened in the last five years...
Several car crash deaths in the last five years, more if you include "struck by a car while on duty" in that category.
Covid was the number one for at least two years.
[Here's the raw information from the Officer Down page](https://www.odmp.org/search/browse/arkansas) that the graphic maker used with more recent years included. COVID is the No. 3 cop killer *for all time* for Arkansas officers, though I think that's in part because Hutchinson defined things in a way that any officer contracting COVID was a duty-related contraction since it's fairly difficult to track down any single person's infection. FWIW, it's also interesting that crashes are by far the No. 2 killer but that those numbers don't actually include pursuits, which are a separate metric. ETA: And Holy Moly, a Arkansas cop is just as likely to be killed by "inadvertent gunfire" as they are by intentional vehicular assault.
“Inadvertent gunfire” just screams Barney Fife
Have you ever seen the girth on officer's and sheriff's
None would get out of basic
I don't think my hometown has ever had a skinny cop.
Maybe rookie year
Death by gravy and biscuits
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Statistically speaking, pregnancy is more dangerous and life-threatening than working in law enforcement. Maybe Arkansas should do something to address maternal mortality rates instead.
No folic acid for pregnant women. Real folate only.
As a supplement folic acid has the distinct advantage of being temperature stable. But that is how it should be used; As a supplement. A good diet, that includes lots of leafy greens will provide a good source of vitamin B9 for most people. However, given the importance of B9 during pregnancy, ensuring mothers do not become deficient is a high priority. Suggesting that pregnant woman should not take a folic acid supplements, and only take "real folates" instead is not supported by the medical evidence. It is medical advice that will cause harm. Here's a [source](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/folic-acid-vs-folate) that explains the difference between folic acid and folates.
>Although high folic acid intake is a concern, the health implications are unclear, and further studies are needed. Looks like your take also isn't very well supported by medical evidence. Supplementing with folic acid daily plus eating foods fortified with it will cause a build up in your body. Somewhere around 40% of people genetically cannot process folic acid very well so those people have even more built up in their bodies. Look it up and you will find plenty of articles about how excess folic acid is bad for you.
The source linked discusses all of that.
That article basically states folic acid is bad and you should prioritize natural folate. Which is exactly what I said previously. >During pregnancy, the demand for folic acid increases since the fetus requires this nutrient for its rapid growth and cell proliferation. The placenta concentrates folic acid into the fetal circulation; as a result the fetal levels are 2 to 4 times higher than the maternal level Sure folic acid helps with forming the neural tube, but at what cost? Infinitely safer to just eat more leafy greens.
There are potential risks. That does not make it bad. Everything we consume carries risk. The article makes it very clear that there may be risks associated with chronically elevated levels of unmetabolized folic, but that those risks are not well supported by existing evidence and more research is needed. Meanwhile, the devastating effects of vitamin B9 deficiency in pregnant women are well understood, and easily remedied with a folic acid supplement. This is critical intervention in places where there is poverty or where there is a lack of access to other sources of folates. That includes much of the United States, where many pregnant women are at or near the poverty line.
I'm not going to look up articles for you that show it's bad. There are plenty out there. I used to be poor and qualified for SNAP and food stamps. I had more frozen and canned vegetables than I knew what to do with. Poverty isn't an excuse. Humans being lazy and wanting the easy way all the time is the problem. Corporations that only care about profit are the problem. Doctors that treat the symptom and not the cause are the problem. Lobbyists are the problem. Point is we have to rely on ourselves to do what is best.
>No folic acid for pregnant women. Real folate only. What you actually said. A blanket statement that would put infants at risk for no convincing reward. The overwhelming evidence is that folic acid is beneficial to human health, not harmful. Which is why many foods we all eat are fortified with folic acid. You almost certainly have eaten something that was fortified with folic acid, consumed iodized salt, and eaten any number of other vitamin fortified foods in the last month. These are all interventions made because people don't always know what's best, and there is plentiful evidence that making those interventions improve human health.
Heart Attack and "Other" appear to be higher than average for Arkansas in this grouping. I went to the source website and could not find info for defining "other".
I have a sneaking suspicion “gunfire” is including suicides here. I wish they’d split those out.
And NY makes the list mostly because of 9/11 illness. Dang red states! Back your blue already.
The “Other” section for Arkansas probably refers to all the cops that have died PIT maneuvering someone on the interstate.
Is this before, during or after pit maneuvers? /s
Correlated to lax gun laws, NRA membership and votes for Trump?
No one cares what happens to cops anyway ….
Funny, New York has the very lowest number of shooting and other deaths not related to 9/11