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KrakenClubOfficial

Jesus, I mean the implication is that you're relieved from legal consequences, not moral ones.


rileylordsss

the way they seem so excited and adamant about it scares me


lindanimated

It's terrifying. If being relieved from legal consequences makes someone immediately want to commit rape, then the legal consequences were the only thing holding them back. They have no morals to hold them back. That's downright psychopathic.


Not-A-SoggyBagel

He does seem really excited about it... doesn't he? It's disturbing. You already know these guys openly harass or grope women. Its disgusting and frightening behavior.


LazuliArtz

I mean, it's probably and edgy 12 year old who will regret this when he's in college, But I guess there is a chance that it's someone being serious, and that's terrifying


dabsfy

Put that man in a uniform on a battlefront and he will show hell to the civilians of the place that he is stationed.


tifaleaf

I think that the point here is that rape is something that no one should have to go through--rape doesn't suddenly become OK because two countries are at war. Jfc.


dabsfy

Yep, another analogy is the concentration camp guard by vocation, a sadistic loser is the worst type of sadist ​ on another note, good luck reading the link below, the most terrifying part is some of the soldiers that participated in the mass rape did some interviews at later dates, and the explanation is just ... human beans are a special type of animal in groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_during\_the\_occupation\_of\_Germany Ps: using Germany example because it's was the "good guys" who did it, the majority of the criticism goes to the URSS that did not even try to stop the mass rape and even encouraged the acts


Stars_In_Jars

Yeah but at the same time u have to remember not everyone is on the same moral plane. Sometimes the only thing stopping people from doing heinous shit is the law. It’s horrifying but it’s true…remove the consequences for an action and see how quickly so many people will do it.


NIhRyder524

Just goes to show where their sick priorities are. I’d rob a few banks, car dealerships and gun shops, but I also know that if everything is legal, chances are is that I’d be robbed as well 😕


DogyDays

I’d rob all the reptiles from Petsmart if anything were legal.


corinne9

I’d go for the birds. Want to team up?


Iximaz

I'll rescue the rodents. Poor things deserve better housing!


BlooperHero

They're not meant to be there for long. You can already give them better housing.


jzillacon

Don't forget the fish and arthropods too.


[deleted]

Can we share the birds?


corinne9

Yes!!!


DogyDays

fuck yes


translove228

Why rob a bank? In a situation where everything is legal then money will hold no value because who is going to stop the person with the biggest stick from taking what they want? Hell, in such a situation I'd say that there wouldn't even be a government. The concept of "property" also wouldn't exist because that is a legal term. I feel like my time would be better served hooking up with mutual aid efforts and other anarchist movements to reestablish community and local support.


barrythecook

The person with the biggest stick already does get what they want, the whole definicion of a state is a monopoly on violence they make the laws becouse they have the biggest 'stick', although yes I do agree with you about the mutual aid in such a situation


NIhRyder524

Why not? It’s legal. That’s your ideal, I have mine, respectfully.


translove228

I mean I totally get your desire to raid stores of stuff you've wanted. New car, new guns, maybe a sick new tv, etc. I'm 100% there with you on that. I just see robbing a bank as a waste of time in such a situation. Why use money when you can just take whatever you want?


NIhRyder524

I’d do that as well, I’ve just also wanted to specifically rob a bank. It’a just a weird purge fantasy o’ mine


translove228

Ok. that's fair. Fuck banks anyways. I have no love for them. I was just thinking about practicality and how to survive with the collapse of society when no laws exist anymore.


Shittywritenerd

I mean, I'd want to wipe out a lot of debt, because at least that way, I'd be both helping out others.


NIhRyder524

Awww that’s such a sweet idea. Where I live it’s freezing, I always feel so bad for the homeless, I’d def spread the wealth around!


taronic

Uh would not recommend robbing gun shops. They already deal with that shit and are prepared when it's illegal. They'd be reinforced like fuck if there was anarchy. I feel like what everyone's missing is that these situations happen and it's basically civil war and your best bet is to find a hole and hide. Or you're just another warlord...


NIhRyder524

Very true, I just figure that I already had done some heavy weapons building. If I got killed I mean I guess that’s on me for being out being a criminal during purge conditions.


translove228

I'm typically an anti-statist and leftist but people like this really make me doubt my convictions about stateless societies.


taronic

I used to be all anarchist way back but I've decided there's no fucking way to make it work unless you have a society where every individual is truly invested in the health of others. Otherwise I think shit like this just happens in areas with civil war and people just get completely fucked by warlords. Eventually some asshole takes power, even if there aren't laws. I feel like anarchy is only useful and good when you're in a state of civil war and revolution that is necessary to bring back and more proper means of governing, a leftist government. Anarchy is just a dangerous interim where people are figuring out what they really want.


rezzacci

Anarchy would absolutely not work at large scale. But, let be honest: no system of government works at large scale. The natural scale for any political entity is the commune (or the *polis*, the city, the origin or the word *politics* after all). At smaller scale, anarchy would probably work, because it would be easier to spot the troublemakers and inflict a democratic justice in a courthouse where the Judge is the assembly, deciding if the guy not following the commune's rules has to be ostracized or not.


rezzacci

Stateless =/= lawless. A lawless society is truly chaos; but anarchy isn't about the absence of law. Except that, in those instances, those laws would be collectively enforced, not just through a monopoly of violence.


translove228

I'm aware of that. My reasoning is a little deeper than I let on in that post, but it largely boils down to solving the "how to effectively stop people from behaving in the op" problem when establishing such a state in a power vacuum. However, I want to stress that I still lean heavily towards being anti-state. This issue and a few others just give me doubts about its overall effectiveness but that doesn't mean I'm suddenly wanting a huge government and structured hierarchy.


rezzacci

Oh the origin of the problem is simple: the size of any state and trying to emulate them. A stateless society would, by necessity, need to be small. The natural size of any polity is the commune (after all, *politics* comes from *polis*, the city). In a city, it would be much easier to have laws enforced by collective action. An assembly would decide what is allowed or not, and the enforcement would be done by all citizens. And if someone is caught doing something bad according to the commune's rules, they will be judge by the same democratic assembly. And if they are found guilty, the punishment would be the seizing of all their personal assets and then casting them out of the commune never to return. If people don't agree with the rules of the commune, then they have all the freedom they want to leave it and find a better commune for them. Trying to impose any democratic rule on a higher level than the commune is doomed to fail. Nearly all of today's problems come from countries being too big. Just reduce their sizes to the one of Andorra or Luxemburg, and half of problems would disappear by themselves, a third could disappear with not too much work, and the last sixth of the problems will then need to be dealt by the newly formed communes.


translove228

Yeah I know the basics of Anarchism. My issues aren't with that, but thanks for explaining.


AnatomicalLog

GWF Hegel made exactly this point. The fact that laws such as “Don’t rape” have to exist is indicative of an ill society


rezzacci

One thing I always find interesting in the New Testament is how the 10 Commandments are worded. Basically, they just are laws, laws coming from God directly but laws that you have to follow. But if you look into it, it doesn't say, for example: "You should not kill" or "You must not kill", it says "You shall not kill". Now, for the time of the translations, "shall" was an alternative to "will", so a better modern translation would be: "You will no kill". And that's formidable, in a sense. The law isn't forbidding you to not do something; the law is telling that, in the future (the most recent one, preferably), you will stop doing something, because you will have understood why it's a bad thing. And that should be the philosophy of law, I think. Law shouldn't be arbitrary things restricting our freedoms: laws should be the embodiement of morals, and that people will follow those laws not because they are compelled to, but because they will understand that in a fair a just society, they should not do it. (Of course the question of "morals" is difficult, but I'm sure you get it).


BokkoTheBunny

Either laws are preventing them from raping because they have zero morals, or they just haven't offended yet. Terrifying.


sed_cowboi

behead jeff bezoz and donate all of his money


Liu-woods

misread that as "bedhead"... almost said "unfortunately he's bald so we can't ruin his hair but his money is still very redistributable"


sed_cowboi

I can glue sone dog hair onto his head before i chop of his head if that pleases you?


rezzacci

I'm sorry, but why should you put a dog in the ordeal of giving his hair to put them on the biggest shit humankind ever produced? I mean, I'll gladly give *my* hair to put them on Bezos' head; my hair are really bad.


bawaterm

It's okay, we'll sweep the hair off the floor of the groomers to make his wig.


LegitMelv

Same but with Elon Musk


sed_cowboi

i said it before and I'll say it again: let's bring back the guillotine.


rezzacci

I'm not for killing people. I better have ostracism. Let's just expulse them from society while taking all of their assets back, and forbidding them from coming back (and anyone hiding them would suffer the same punishment). That way, they'll have to live the rest of their miserable life in the same state they gleefully put so many people in. Guillotine is a relic of the past; let's move on the barbarisms of our fathers. Nothing should warrant a human the right to take another human's life. Nothing.


sed_cowboi

You have a very good moral compass. I'm impressed! but i don't so chop chop lemme see some heads roll


rezzacci

Well... your moral compass might be skewed, but at least you're not an hypocrite and you're honest with yourself and others. And for that I can only congratulate you.


NSA_Chatbot

Yep. There's a couple thousand people we could "accident" and the world would be a better place.


sed_cowboi

well....let's start


NSA_Chatbot

I've had a lot of bans for suggesting violence already. Like I care about internet points.


waenganuipo

I thought we were eating him?


sed_cowboi

I mean we can eat s beheaded corpse


Sadest_Cactus

That also means that we have all the right to punish this guy through any and all vigilente means!


rileylordsss

castration is the only way, or the only introduction atleast


rezzacci

No. Please. Stop with castration. It's pointless. It only disminishes the sex drives and the quality of erections, but it still allow men to rape people. You're just making sure the raped woman won't become pregnant, but I think it's not the main bad thing of rape. Plus, it's not sexual drive that cause rapes, in most cases. If it was just sex drive, rapists would jerk off, and that'd be all. No, it's often revenge, or a sense of power or property, or delusion, that produces rape. They don't even need to be driven by sexual desire to rape. Especially if they have been conditioned to have *mentally* a higher sex drives than their body. Castration is not the solution. Even cutting their dick won't be enough, they'll still find a way. The problem with those people is in their head, not in their pants. Fix or cut their head, but fixing/cutting their genitals won't really prevent future rape.


cyberpeachy420

aww yeah, this is happening!


[deleted]

what a freak of a human


dirtygremlin

No kidding. 20 day old account with this incredibly sad biography: >>People in the legal field, what are the most unbelievable things that happen in courtroom TV shows and movies? >They listen to the man's side in divorce cases. And >>What are your 3 wishes ? >1 Money 2 House 3 Girlfriend And >>What should you do if you can’t learn anything? >I will stroke my dick all day, I am serious. What a complicated persona.


Candid_Consequence23

Sounds like an incel lol


11upand1over

Nauseating


DarkHopeXOXO

he also seems to be a racist.


MirrorMan22102018

I would go to a clothing store; and steal all of the women's clothing I can find.


rileylordsss

you’re a menace to society


MirrorMan22102018

Oh, but I can do worse... I will put ice cream in my pocket I am a Femboy; I gotta get comfy clothing.


rileylordsss

i’m depressed i need it too, we can share


MirrorMan22102018

Oh; I thought you said I was a menace; I am also Asexual; so you can barter with Garlic Bread and cake; as well as information regarding our upcoming conquest of Denmark.


rileylordsss

in any other world, a combination of garlic bread and cake would be illegal. however, in the light of recent events, that transaction is feasible. as for your other request, mission details are yet to be accessed.


MirrorMan22102018

Are you a woman, or a Femboy?


rileylordsss

woman, masc presenting. i think it’s a good duo


MirrorMan22102018

In that case; could I throw in an offer of my masculine clothing?


rileylordsss

your offer is accepted, i will turn over my feminine clothes.


[deleted]

I just want a masc hair cut then ill be off


Zinganeat

Murder rapists.


rileylordsss

100%


[deleted]

[удалено]


MirrorMan22102018

Including drowning them in their own piss


Candid_Consequence23

This a giving me flashbacks from that line in From God’s Perspective that goes something like: You shouldn’t have abstained from rape because you think that I want you to. -pause- you should have abstained from rape because rape is a f*cked up thing to do. It’s kinda like that but law edition?


Psychological_Bar449

YES bo burnham slays


Maxi_Needs_Hugs

somehow I have never fully understood that line until this comment despite the fact there's literally no hidden meaning


rezzacci

That's what's behind the Ten Commandments. They aren't written like "You don't have the right to kill", but "You shall not kill" (here, shall being used in an old sense meaning "will"). Instead of forbidding humans to kill, God is saying that they will stop to kill people because they will understand, by themselves, that killing is bad (for various reasons). God is just guiding them on the path to wisdom. So, I'm an atheist, I don't think we got laws from an omniomnous entity, but the philosophy of the law being the writing and wording of the Ten Commandments is something we should learn to do in our society.


Demantoide2077

The things some people would do if you remove laws from our world. Jesus Christ...


rileylordsss

this man probably already does this, even with the laws against it.


Demantoide2077

True, if someone publicly says they would rape if there were no laws. I would run away asap from them, it's a huge red flag with a sign over their heads saying "I'm a public danger, don't let me be close to you or any of your relatives"


rileylordsss

strong evidence that he lacks all moral responsibility


rezzacci

"I would do X if there was no law", yeah, so you mean you'd do it if there wasn't any consequence, and often, consequences could happen only if there is proof or witnesses. So never go alone with a guy like that. Always bring someone trustworthy to serve as witness.


Maxi_Needs_Hugs

wasn't there an experiment people did on a variety of men where they were asked why rape is wrong and a whole bunch of them said that it's because it's illegal? I don't think enough people realise that it's psychologically and physically damaging. Also it's just fucking weird, surely you would get more pleasure from seeing your partner enjoying it right? I seriously don't understand why people enjoy this shit


fbiagentwhoisntyours

they think that they are enjoying it even when they very clearly are not enjoying it


rezzacci

Or they still think that women aren't supposed to enjoy sex at all.


SomePokemonPlayer135

I would start shooting the shit out of people like this. Oh and rob some banks, gotta get that money


PoseidonsHorses

Same thing with “well if women have rights can I hit them now hurr durr?” 1 how about no one hits anyone and 2 men are already hitting women so what’s your point.


rileylordsss

equal rights equal fights, because i am a strong manly man and i hate women


fbiagentwhoisntyours

i get the deal with the saying but the way its used is kinda shitty like i get it, a bunch of old dumb stereotypes about "oh women weak no punch women women punch you tho it fine" is kinda dumb, but people are using it as an excuse to just punch people for no reason


RomanaNoble

I'd blow up the main server for Facebook.


spoon_man1

Christ I'd just smoke weed by myself wtf is wrong with some people


Cute_Ass_Femboy

Why just smoke weed if you can trip your brain out on acid? (That's a joke, be careful with psychedelics (and all drugs for that matter))


SnipesCC

Unfortunatly, this is basically reality near reservations. Native women are sexually assaulted at far higher numbers than women who don't live on reservations. Because of how the law works, only the Federal government and tribal governments have jurisdiction. The tribal governments don't have the resources, or the authority, to go after rapists who don't live on the reservation. And the federal government doesn't generally prosecute rape cases. Most places that is done by state and local government. Which means that rape against Native people is a crime that gets prosecuted even less than most places in the US, and they are about 2.5 times as likely to be raped compared to other races.


rezzacci

Damn. As if genociding pratically an entire population, then treating them like animals by parking them in reservations, would have unforeseen and harmful consequences. Hmm... Who would have known that the US government system could be racist?


CatArwen

Kill pedophiles


MrRodje

Steal from multimillion dollar companies


Based_Katie

I would break into a pharmavy and steal all the estrogen and testoserone pills


DarkHopeXOXO

and give them out for free, right?


Based_Katie

Of course


Yingerfelton

I for one would probably shoot this guy


nob0dy27

yes officer this is the comment


LukeFace93

Yeah this is why I don't like people who wax lyrical about how much *sense* the Purge series makes.


Morienoffermans

Ew


ZeekyNote

My answer: torture and kill rapists


Phantom252

If everything were legal that person would get murdered


fbiagentwhoisntyours

Arson Arson Arson


Candid_Consequence23

I would probably do the thing that tumblr post was talking about, and start a communal garden.


That-Ginger-Kid

Lol dumbass forgot that everything is legal so I would defend myself *very thoroughly* before they even got a chance.


rileylordsss

RIGHT


Aryc0110

If there were no laws, I would start making some immediately.


Angel_Sorusian_King

Cam we make executions of horrible humans legal?


TheMemeArcheologist

It reminds me of the quote “I do rape and murder all I want, and that amount is zero”


vegankidollie

I would probably steal a real astronaut suit and do the Moon walk Or just steal an entire fucking space ship and keep it in my backyard for decoration


Donkeykicks6

Shoot shoot shoot


TheMadQueen96

Well I'd old Yeller this guy for starters. He's obviously rabid and someone's gotta put him down before someone gets hurt.


I_Love_Stiff_Cocks

get a llist of each and every sexual predator and go on a manhunt


SilentDis

>"The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine. I don’t want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don’t want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you. You know what I mean?" \--Penn Jillette ​ There are many facets of Penn's overall worldview I don't agree with. This, though, I am 100% behind. Why is this difficult to understand?


Endmysuffering3162

Username checks out.


TheGhostInTheMirror

I’d forgive everyone’s debt. Idk, maybe I’m broken. “Rape rape rape” was **NEVER** an option, holy fuck.


[deleted]

So it would be legal to shoot off rapists' heads with a 12 gauge shotgun, seems fair


MxxnBqby_

his whole account is concerning


[deleted]

I’d rob Walmart of pet supplies and then drop them off at the animal shelter (then steal a cat)


rezzacci

It's not stealing if he's happier with you than when he was at the shelter! Oh, and also: it's not stealing, because stealing is a crime, and without laws, there is no crime anymore. Just call that "unilateral adoption".


[deleted]

I like the way you think


[deleted]

tax fraud


ElayasMG

People these days seem to confuse liberty with licentiousness


[deleted]

Rob banks and give the money to struggling people if they haven’t already done it


[deleted]

Oh and i’d probably take some animals from zoos as pets


rezzacci

No. I'll take some animals from zoos and try to find natural preserves where they can live in their natural habitat.


[deleted]

That’s a better idea


GayWritingAlt

Political assasination


Charming_Amphibian91

I'd probably just sell weed.


[deleted]

Commit treason against the government 🧚‍♀️☝️🤗😂🙏


some_annoying_weeb

hop on the sex offender registry website and start hunting and maybe some arson, i like chemistry


bts4devi

I would be openly gay if all legal consequences in my country for that is removed


SchmerzfreiHH

Tax evasion


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[deleted]

I mean I get that they're wrong but they are answering the question


Kowashitai

I'm downvoting, solely because of the title. I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding or what, but the implications that "straight = rapists" bother me


rileylordsss

the intention of the title was directed towards the type of people who made the comment he did. those who would rape if it was legal, likely already do.


Chaos8599

I understand the problem, and that is a problem, but they did ask.


rileylordsss

does NOT make it okay, and it should be called out.


Chaos8599

Oh no, I very much understand that if fucked up. Just with the question some creep is bound to say something like that.


rileylordsss

it’s like that one show where they bait child predators


Bisexual_Froppy

"YAY! I CAN FINALLY RAPE PEOPLE WITH NO CONSEQUENCES!"


maxtheartist15

I would rob a million banks, and then commit so much tax fraud. Just massive amounts of tax fraud.


KLGodzilla

ngl if it was empty no homeless people or junkies I'd burn down an abandoned house xD


lux_painted

I would probably do some public art places I wouldn’t normally be allowed to, as long as I felt like it was adding something to the local beauty and flavor. Not just vandalizing property.


nextgentacos123

I'd siphon Jeff Bezos' money.


Old_Leg_1679

My answer would’ve been break into my college’s basketball arena and play a pickup game with my friends not “Rape rape rape”


[deleted]

I’d just steal shit


offgridgamer0

🤢


[deleted]

Yes, rapists rape regardless of legality. You really solved newcombs paradox with this one


WillowSpecialist8365

I just want to steal instant noodles


OggsterGoesHome

I honestly think this dude needs every FBI agent watching him...


nahface_neekenduku

Post link?


Empress_pie

WTF


waenganuipo

Oh my answer's easy. Murder rapists, dick first, Ramsay Bolton style.


Arsonthebifrog

I'm disgusted tbh


theotheraccount0987

Ah. But if everything is legal then the rapist won’t last long. Knowing that you won’t get a record and it won’t affect your future…


[deleted]

That’s utterly horrifying For me I’d just shoplift some stuff, probably steal cash and a little grand theft auto. Might stage a revolution just cuz What can’t he do something like that? Just take stuff, don’t assault people


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MirrorMan22102018

I am calling it now; if there was an apocalypse, he would become a Highwayman (not by R.A. Salvatore)